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DAC okays purchase of Russian air defence shield S-400 Triumf| The Asian Age

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(Indian) Government clears purchase of Rs 39,000cr Russian missile systems~Times of India

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Media reports say KKNPP reactors 5 and 6 may be built in AP,after Bengal rejected them on enviro issues.Teams are trying v.hard to iron out small details so that the PM can clear them on his impending trip.

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Narendra Modi’s visit to Russia
22 December 2015 Nandan Unnikrishnan, specially for RIR

Prime Minister Narendra Modi is off to Moscow on Wednesday hoping to energise bilateral ties and to persuade Russian President Vladimir Putin that his country continues to be an important strategic partner of India.

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Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is headed for Moscow Wednesday for the annual bilateral summit of the strategic partners, hoping to energise bilateral relations and persuade Russian President Vladimir Putin that his country continues to be an important strategic partner.

To help these efforts, Modi has armed himself with an expensive wish list, which in these difficult economic times for Russia – sanctions and depressed oil prices –will be music to the ears of the Kremlin leaders.

Topping the shopping list, reflecting the importance of defence ties, will be the nearly seven billion dollars allotted for acquisition of military equipment. The most important among these will be the S-400 “Triumph” air defence system (this system permits interdiction of hostile missiles and aircraft). Reports say that India is looking for five units. The negotiations about this acquisition, according to Russian press reports, are going to be “not easy”. Primarily, because India finds the asking price too high, writes Sergei Strokan in the Kommersant newspaper. “Finally everything will depend on the talks between the two leaders,” a source told Kommersant. If successful, India will be the second country after China to buy the S-400 system.

In addition to this India and Russia will discuss the purchase of 3 frigates, 2 diesel submarines, 48 military transport helicopters, and about 150 armoured vehicles. The two sides will also discuss the modernisation of the IL 76 and IL 78 transport aircraft of the Indian Air Force. The two sides will also discuss the acquisition of about 150 armoured vehicles.

India accounted for 28% of Russian military equipment exports in 2014. This amounted to 4.7 billion dollars, according to Kommersant.

The two sides appear to have hit a speed bump over the collaboration on and the leasing of a “Yasen” class nuclear-powered submarine. This is Russia’s latest top-of-the-line submarine. Russia, however, appears reluctant to share this technology with India, partly because there is scepticism about India’s ability to absorb the new levels of technology in this submarine. Instead, the Russians are hoping that the talks about the lease of a second ‘Shuchka’ (translated as “Pike” and not “Akula” which means “Shark”) nuclear-powered submarine come to fruition.

This submarine, developed as Project 971, is similar to the Chakra II, which is currently on lease with the Indian Navy. However, the submarine will be substantially modernised in accordance with Indian requirements, according to Indian press reports. Another hitch is the apparent hiccup with the 5th generation fighter project. India was to be joint developer, but now that appears uncertain. The discussions between Modi and Putin are likely to bring some clarity on this issue.

The second important item on the list is cooperation in civilian nuclear energy. It is widely expected that India will offer Russia a new site for construction of a nuclear power plant. The site is likely to be in Andhra Pradesh and will be home to six reactors, according to sources. Also, it is expected that an agreement for two more reactors in Kudankulam will be signed during the visit, bringing the total number of Russian built reactors in India to twelve.

The expected military and nuclear energy deals underscore the importance cooperation in these spheres has acquired in maintaining the strategic nature of Indo-Russian ties. But Prime Minister Modi wants to leverage these strengths to address the primary area of weakness in bilateral ties – the economic relationship.

The project to construct 200-odd Kamov helicopters in India in collaboration with Indian public and private sector companies highlights this approach. Reports say that Anil Ambani’s Reliance Group is likely to be the Indian private sector partner in this project. If the inter-governmental agreement is signed, this project will go a long way in bolstering the “Make in India” programme. Similar efforts are being made in shipbuilding.

Aiming to improve economic ties, Modi is taking a very high-powered Indian business delegation. Several leading private industrialists –Anil Ambani, Adi Godrej, Sudhir Mehta, Baba Kalyani, Ravi Ruia and others - are among the delegation, which also includes leading public sector organisations – Oil and Natural Gas Corporation (ONGC), Indianoil, Oil India, ONGC Videsh Limited (OVL), Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), Canara Bank, etc.

Bilateral trade in 2014 was less that 10 billion dollars and estimates for the first six months of 2015 are about one third of that figure. This is abysmally low considering the potential and is not commensurate with the level of political and strategic ties. There are several areas in which potential synergies exist – energy, pharmaceuticals, agro-industries, and infrastructure development. Some progress exists, but more needs to be done. To actualise the potential the two sides are considering a multi-billion dollar investment fund.

In the modern age, with globalisation processes dominating it will be difficult to sustain a long-term strategic partnership without a solid economic foundation.” says a former Indian diplomat. Therefore, Russia’s sensitivity to India’s development challenges will go a long way in nurturing bilateral ties.

However, the visit will be not only about deals worth large sums of money. The two sides will also exchange views on several important developments in the world as well as discuss cooperation in multilateral forums. India and Russia are members of the UN and related bodies, such as G-20, BRICS, and SCO to name a few.

Among issues to be discussed, high on the agenda will be the question of tackling terrorism. Reports speak of a comprehensive counter-terrorism agreement being signed during the visit. There already exist mechanisms for intelligence sharing and these are highly valued by both sides. These discussions acquire additional salience in the light of developments in Syria and Afghanistan.

The two sides will exchange views on the developments in Syria.However, Afghanistan will occupy the prime space in discussions on regional matters, particularly, since Modi is expected to visit Kabul after Moscow.

Also, India will be keen to hear Russia’s views on its improving ties with Pakistan. There appears to be a view among Russian officials that with the proposed sale of some helicopters to Pakistan, Moscow has acquired some levers of influence in Islamabad.

“Pakistan continues to run circles around countries like USA and China. Russia will be easy play. Therefore it is important that India disabuse them (Russia) of this view (that helicopter deal gives significant leverage) and stop them from falling into this trap,” says an Indian security analyst.

A significant way to measure the levels of trust between India and Russia would be to see if the two sides have a frank discussion about their relations with China. This is necessary in order to establish if the Russia-India-China (RIC) forum could become a significant factor in influencing the evolving new order in Asia and the world.

Similarly, the Russians would like clarity about India’s growing ties with the United States. In fact, some of Russia’s hesitation in sharing some sensitive technologies with India may be because of the talks India is conducting with some Western countries for similar technologies.

Another area that holds rich potential is collaboration in science and technology. Cooperation in Outer Space and nanotechnologies are some of the directions for future cooperation. Last, but not least, there is a need to encourage academic interactions and people-to-people contacts.

Therefore, Modi has a wide range of issues to discuss in Moscow – over an informal, private dinner with Putin as well as during formal talks. If Modi succeeds in convincing Putin about India’s desire for a strategic partnership with Russia, he may indeed return with a “Triumph”.

The writer is a Senior Fellow, Observer Research Foundation.
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Contd from above report.
Will Modi restore trust Vajpayee enjoyed with Putin?
21 December 2015 Vinay Shukla
Narendra Modi has met with Vladimir Putin several times and both seem to have developed some chemistry, rebooting in bilateral relations is becoming necessary
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Narendra Modi and Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of the BRICS summit in July. Source: AP

A lot has been written about the forthcoming Moscow visit of the Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi for the 16th annual India-Russia summit with President Vladimir Putin.

The interest in the Indian PM’s Moscow visit is natural since this will be Narendra Modi’s first official visit to Moscow as the leader of the world’s largest democracy to the capital of the world’s largest nation by size.

The media is awash with a plethora of bilateral contracts and agreements spanning the sectors of defence and energy; both conventional and civil nuclear; to easing visa regimes for business travellers and tourists which are likely to be signed during Modi’s Moscow visit.

This author, who has covered bilateral visits of two countries’ leaders over the last 25 years, feels that this time there are sub-surface challenges, which Modi will have to face during his Moscow talks with President Putin, who is going through a critical phase of his presidency. Russia is under renewed pressure from its cold war rivals – the United States and NATO alliance - which continue the eastward advance into the former Soviet space. The Ukraine crisis is also a fall out of this Washington policy.

Traditional friendly India-Russia relations, have not only survived global transitions in both countries from ‘licence Raj’ and Socialist systems to the market economy, but also the system of governance in post-Soviet Russia. In spite of the dramatic changes and considerable shrinking of its geopolitical space in the wake of the Soviet collapse, Moscow continues to remain New Delhi’s key partner in Eurasia, not only due to India’s dependence on Russian armament supplies, but also due to commonality or similarity of vital national and geopolitical interests.

If the credit for retaining friendship with post-Soviet Russia should be given to former Indian Prime Minister PV Narasimha Rao, it was Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee who qualitatively transformed it into the bilateral strategic partnership by signing the Strategic Partnership pact with President Putin, during the Russian leader’s maiden India visit in October 2000.

During his maiden Russia visit as prime minister in November 2001, Vajpayee struck a goldmine of highest mutual trust with Putin, which characterised bilateral relations till the end of NDA rule in 2004. Putin, then a novice in high global politics, highly respected India’s poet-premier as a trustworthy senior, experienced colleague.

The episode of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf’s Moscow visit is enough to judge the chemistry and level of trust the two leaders had developed. It was in February 2003, when General Musharraf’s plane was landing at Moscow airport, Putin called up Vajpayee to brief him about his forthcoming talks with the Pakistani leader. Three days later, when Musharraf’s aircraft was still taxiing to take off, Vajpayee was already in the know of his talks in Moscow, when Putin again phoned the Indian Prime Minister.

However, Putin’s efforts to sustain the level of bilateral trust with the UPA’s leadership, which replaced NDA, were not very successful, although he had highest regard for Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh.

Shortly after the UPA takeover in New Delhi, Putin had invited Sonia Gandhi to Russia in the hope of further cementing bilateral trust. However, in the course of 10 years of UPA rule, relations with Russia were adrift on the backdrop of growing bonhomie with Washington.

The delay in the delivery of refurbished ‘Admiral Gorshkov’ aircraft carrier, resulting in massive cost overruns, dominated the India-Russia arms agenda. The negative hype over this single deal, initiated by Prime Minister Vajpayee, although inked during UPA rule, put in jeopardy other ambitious projects of the Vajpayee government including joint development of a fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) and multirole transport aircraft ( MTA ).

Russia still believes that its MiG-35 was disqualified in the first round of mega-tender for the acquisition 126 MMRCA combat aircraft for political reasons. Short-listed aircraft including the ‘Rafale’ did not meet all the parameters of the initial requirements of the Indian tender.

Although, Modi has met with Putin several times and both seem to have developed some chemistry, rebooting in bilateral relations is becoming necessary. Moscow, which has been wary of New Delhi’s pro-US drift in the last years of UPA rule, still needs to be convinced that the Modi government’s overtures with Obama will not undermine traditional ties.

Perhaps, Modi understands Moscow’s concerns. “Russia has always been a source of strength for us. It remains important for our future, too,” he said addressing India’s top commanders on board Russian built aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya days ahead of his Moscow visit.

Now is the time to convert words into deeds, as Russia has expressed readiness to contribute to Modi government’s policy of ‘Make in India’ to make India self-sufficient in defence. There are open debates in the Russian media about giving India weapon systems capable of removing its concerns over growing Chinese activities in Indian Ocean. Even President Putin, commenting on the firing of its Calibre cruise missiles from Caspian warships on Islamic State targets, noted that Russia is closely interacting with India in the field of cruise missiles and is ready to further advance cooperation beyond BrahMos.

In 2001 Modi, as the Gujarat Chief Minister was the member of Prime Minister Vajpayee’s official delegation. Briefing his team on his talks with President Putin he is reported to have said: “They (Russians) have everything we need and are ready to give us what we want, so no need to go elsewhere.”

Such was the level of mutual trust which Vajpayee enjoyed with Putin, however, under the influence of focused anti-Putin propaganda, this trust eroded over time. The biggest achievement of Modi’s Kremlin summit with Putin would be how far he succeeds in the restoration of this trust.

While visiting Moscow earlier in the course of preparations for the summit External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj had called Russia a ‘time tested friend of India.’ Will Russia be able to say same thing after Modi’s Moscow visit?
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Arnab hosting a show from RT studios in Moscow discussing the ISIS conflict. Seems to be a follow up from his attendance here, where he minced no words (this one is definitely worth a watch): Role of intl news media on new geopolitical chessboard (#RT10 Panel Discussion) (RT on Youtube)

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Modi's "Triumph-al" visit?!

I watched the TN/RT panel show.It was an excellent one,without the usual Arnab "fish market" bawling. The experts were superb,great viewpoints and spelt out in clear lingo the issues at hand. The US being the "bogeyman",prime culprit and root cause for the ME.regional woes. Al Q and ISIS the result of its failed mil policies globally.

The PM has just underscored the fact that "Russia is our principal partner".No mincing words here.

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Russia remains our principal partner: Narendra Modi
23 December 2015 TASS

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi told about his forthcoming visit to Moscow, his friendship with Putin and prospects of Russian-Indian cooperation in his first interview to the Russian media.
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Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi gave an exclusive interview to TASS First Deputy Director-General Mikhail Gusman on the eve of his state visit to Russia. This is his first interview with Russian media.

Mr. Prime Minister, many thanks to you for giving us a chance to meet you prior to your visit to Russia. This must be your first official visit to Russia as Prime Minister but you have been there before. What are your feelings right now? What do you expect from this trip?

First of all, I greet the Russian citizens from my heart, because Russia is India's unwavering friend. Russian citizens too maintained unwavering relations with India. And politically apart, the Russian citizens have shown considerable interest in the Indian traditions and India's culture. And it makes our relationship stronger. I am going on a state visit for the first time, but I have been meeting President Putin frequently. In a way, mine and President Putin's political journey has moved identically. He took over in 2000, I took over in 2001. And in 2001, I visited as member of the Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's delegation, in capacity of a chief minister. So that was my first meeting. When I go to Russia, there is a thought in my mind that I have delayed the visit a bit. Secondly, I am hesitating a bit. But I am filled with enthusiasm that I'm going to a friend's house. And visit a friend, the feeling of oneness, the emotions, I am feeling it. The relations between India and Russia are linked together through the water, land and sky. Our defense source, defense power, in all these Russia is associated with us for all those years. Similarly, in the global environment, in times of crisis, where you need a friend, Russia has always stood with us. We never had to wait to know what Russia will do with us in this regard. We remain confident that we are doing this, Russia will do it with us. So this in itself, an atmosphere of trust continues between the two countries. And in this sense, our relationship, in one way is a new level of strategic partnership, which is taking us in that direction.

Mr. Prime Minister, you told us in great detail how close the relationship between our two countries is. We have historic ties continuing over the years. What do you think of the dynamics of this relationship today? You have met President Putin several times. What kind of personal relationship do you have with him?

You said while greeting me that "you are coming to Russia when it is very cold there; it is less cold in Delhi; you must come with warm clothing." This is what you suggested to me. And my spontaneous answer was that in the love of Russian citizens there is warmth, it will provide a lot of warmth in the minus temperature, this is the relationship we share.

It is true that I have made a good introduction with President Putin. The world knows him as a strong leader. He is a decisive person. And the best thing is that he knows how to maintain relations. He has a special strength to sacrifice for the relations. It is rarely found. And therefore, for him to sacrifice, to maintain relations are his special strength. Due to this an atmosphere of trust is born immediately with any country and with any leader. Between me and President Putin, trust is a very big strength, confidence is a very big strength. Secondly it is openness. There are those who think something, but say something else. This I have not experienced with President Putin. What he thinks, he says in clear words. You might like it or not like it, he is not tense about it. He explains with a feeling of oneness and in a friendly manner. It is a fact that he has provided excellent leadership to Russia over the years. Provided leadership, brought it out of economic crisis and filled strength in Russia after its break down. Whenever there is a crisis in the world, Russia comes up with its own ideas with its strength. All this is because of the leadership of President Putin. India always remembers Russia as a friend. But President Putin has filled new energy in this relationship, filled new enthusiasm and I see him as a friend.

The Russian-Indian ties have a long and rich history. Relations between our countries have never been overshadowed by wars or conflicts. How do you see the dynamics of relations between our countries?

Indeed, ours is a relationship with strong and deep roots in history. Russian merchant Afanasy Nikitin visited India in 1469; Indian merchants from Gujarat came to Astrakhan and established trade relations and a vibrant Indian community since 1615; Tsar Alexey Mikhailovich in 1646 itself had sent emissaries to the then Emperor of India Shah Jahan seeking to establish diplomatic relations between India and Russia.

Russia was probably one of the first European countries to have introduced Indology studies. There has been tremendous interest in each other between people of our two countries through centuries. Indian films have been very popular in Russia; Russian literature has found resonance in India. So, our connections run deep and long.

At a personal level, my first international agreement as Chief Minister of Gujarat was with Astrakhan.

Since India’s Independence in 1947, India and Russia have formed a genuinely close strategic partnership, characterized by unmatched mutual trust and confidence, and solidarity with each other. Russian assistance has helped India’s industrialization and progress in many areas, including space.

Russia provided defense equipment to India and international support when few were willing to hold our hands. Indians will never forget the Russian support that we got when we needed it the most.

The world has gone through enormous political and economic, technological transformation since the end of the Cold War and the breakup of the Soviet Union.

However, through these turbulent times, our relationship has remained on a steady course of progress. A lot of credit goes to President Putin and Indian leaders over the past two decades.

I am pleased to see where our relationship is today. Russia was the first country with which we concluded a formal agreement on strategic partnership, which has since been elevated to the level of ‘special and privileged’ strategic partnership in recognition of our multifaceted bilateral engagement. I see positive signs of further growth owing to complementarities of both the countries. The strengths of Russia in science and technology, military technology and nuclear energy to name a few, complement the large market of India, expanding economy and demand of its young population. This provides us with the confidence that we can take forward our existing dynamic partnership.

The dynamic development of the entire range of bilateral relations has lent them a trait of comprehensive strategic partnership. Russia and India have made tangible progress in advancing cooperation in a wide variety of spheres. In what area of our bilateral cooperation the achieved progress is the greatest and where certain potential remains untapped?

Our relations with Russia have been unique, covering almost every field of human endeavour. We have excellent understanding at the political level. We have robust partnership in the field of defenыe, nuclear energy, science and technology and other areas. Russia has been the largest supplier of military equipment to India and would remain so.

Energy is a sector where we can do a lot more. Russia is one of the world’s top sources for hydrocarbon resources and India is one of the world’s largest importers. We have had significant investments in this sector. Our hydrocarbon companies have been in the Russian market for the past two decades through investments in Sakhalin, and are presently acquiring stakes in Vankor, TassYuryakh and LNG projects.

India’s global re-engagement in nuclear energy has begun with Russia. Energy security is critical to India’s economic development and Russia is a key partner in this area. Nuclear energy is an important component of our energy security strategy. Russia is currently our leading international partner. Our cooperation with Russia in the peaceful uses of nuclear energy is a cornerstone of our strategic partnership. I am glad that the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Project has become operational, and is set to expand. I believe our cooperation in the area of nuclear energy will continue to grow. After Kudankulam, we are finalizing a second site for Russian-designed reactors in India. We have outlined an ambitious vision for nuclear energy and construction of at least 12 reactors, which will have the highest safety standards in the world. As two countries possessing advanced nuclear technology, we are interested in taking forward this cooperation in the peaceful uses of nuclear energy.

In space, India’s first satellite Aryabhatta was launched by Russia in 1975 and the first space travel by an Indian cosmonaut aboard a Russian spacecraft took place in 1984. Cooperation in pharmaceuticals has seen mutually beneficial investments and reliable supply of medicines at international quality while at affordable prices.

There is potential to further strengthen our relations in the field of trade and investments. Our bilateral trade, though growing, has not achieved its full potential. We have committed to increase this to $30 billion by 2025. Similarly we are committed to increase our investments to $15 billion each by 2025.

In addition to bringing our businesses and CEOs together, we are also in the process of launching negotiations on a Free Trade Agreement with Eurasian Economic Union. We are establishing a more direct trade route through the International North South Transit Corridor that will drastically reduce cost and time for transporting goods between India and Russia. And, we have recently notified a Diamond Trading Centre in India that will enable Russia uncut diamonds to be directly routed to India for processing rather than through third countries.

Military-technical cooperation between Russia and India has been underway for more than half a century now and its scale is traditionally wide. What is your vision of the results of cooperation in that sphere and its outlook?

Russia has been India’s foremost defense partner through decades, accounting for a majority of our defense equipment. We value Russian support during the era when not many doors were open to us. Even in the current environment, and despite India’s improved access to the world market, Russia remains our principal partner. The aircraft carrier ‘INS Vikramaditya’, Sukhoi fighter jets and Brahmos cruise missiles are great symbol of our defence cooperation.

They are the result of unwavering mutual trust and confidence and reflect the strength of our strategic partnership.

Our defense ties have been transformed from a buyer-seller relationship to one involving joint research, development and production of advanced systems such as the Brahmos missile system in India as well as licensed production in India of Sukhoi-30MKI aircraft and T-90 tanks. As part of our enhanced military cooperation, joint military exercises are being conducted by the Armed Forces of both the countries regularly. We are also working together for joint manufacture of defense equipment and components in India under the Make in India initiative.

Mr. Prime Minister, you’ve been heading the government of India over a year. You have done a great deal and have intentions to do a lot more. You have carried out many reforms and are planning more. What future do you see for India? What are the main goals? What else do you want to do?

I am the first Prime Minister who for 14 years had the opportunity to work as a Chief Minister. And due to this I understand well the utility of States in India, their importance, the strength of federal structure in letter and spirit. And so my first idea in governance is that this country can not stand on one pillar. Each state is a strong pillar in itself and that is the country's biggest strength. And therefore I have put stress on the "Team India" concept. We have put great emphasis on Cooperative Federalism, Cooperative competitive Federalism which shall show good results in near future. Secondly, every country has this goal, happiness of countrymen, satisfaction of countrymen. How will the life of our countrymen change? How to bring improvement in quality of life? If they are imparted education then everyone should get it. Education of high standard must be imparted. Qualitative changes must come in progressive education. Health care facilities must be facilitated to all but qualitative changes are required. Good heath care facilities must be made available. All the general humanitarian requirements must be met. A citizen has his own dreams and oppotunities must be provided to fulfill those dreams. And it must be the responsibility of the state government to provide the opportunities. Then the citizen starts moving on his own.

So our focus must be to provide the opportunities. Skill development and human resource development is my main goal. “Make in India” – creation of a manufacturing hub is my effort. Skill development shall provide opportunities to our youth, so that each citizen will become a part of the economy. That will give a new boost to the economy. I am putting efforts in this direction. We have to upgrade the infrastructure. I mean not only the roads. I do not want to limit it to highways. I want to travel on I-ways which shall have an information base. I am not only working towards a Water Grid but also for a Gas Grid, Digital Network and dream of Digital India. And so from my past one and a half year's experience, I can say that India has well achieved it. These days you must have observed that India is being seen in global ranking as an economic power. Today India is being considered as the largest economy in the world and it is the fastest moving economy. All the world's rating agencies say that India is a bright spot. The development is very fast in India. It is regarded by the entire world. If the 21st century is the century of Asia, India's obligation increases. As a democratic country, India has more responsibility. And we are fully aware. How can we play our role in the world by adding the two, the development in the form of a democratic country and human values? Our strength lies in how to work for humanity, democracy, helping the poorest countries, not as a silent spectator but as a global player.

Mr. Prime Minister, you know, Russia, India and the entire world is facing a great evil, terrorism. We see it everywhere. Now this Islamic State has taken over control of entire Syria. Many countries are fighting against it. India has also lost its citizens in terror attacks and has its own experience in combatting terrorism. How the world must fight against it, in your opinion? What counter-terrorism efforts Russia and India should take together?

First of all I convey my condolences for the innocent Russian citizens who lost their lives recently because of terrorist attack on a plane in Egypt. I extend condolences to the Russian citizens. India is a victim of terrorism for the last forty years. We have seen the fiercest of fierce forms of terrorism. And it remains a danger for the innocent civilians. Today it is slowly spreading throughout the world.

When we were suffering from terrorism, we used to say to the world that it has no boundaries. If it is here today, it can go anywhere tomorrow. But unfortunately the world was not ready to accept our point. It was not willing to understand. They thought that it is India's problem. But we are sad about it that what we said has come true today. We are sad about it.

Terrorism is the enemy of humanity. Those who believe in humanity, all those powers must unite against terrorism. Humanity is not restricted within political boundaries. Political philosophy can not weigh humanity. Humanity must be weighed with the scale of humanity only. And all who believe in humanity, irrespective of any political consideration, must come together and only then they can fight it.

The United Nations was born after the two world wars. There were no wars, but fierce terrorism was killing the innocents. Wars were fought at the borders between the soldiers. In terrorism, armed people hunt for innocent citizens. It is ghastlier than the world wars. But it is very unfortunate that we all together could not explain terrorism in the United Nations. We could not define terrorism. Who is a terrorist and who will be considered as supporter of terrorists. Who will be considered aiding terrorism? What will be done with such countries? The United Nations is not able to show the courage even to consider it for discussion. Because some countries somewhere in the world are involved and are putting obstacles in it. The world will have to understand it.

As far as Syria is concerned, and West Asia as a whole, West Asia was moving towards prosperity. But we are seeing that prosperity does not provide contentment and happiness. That only wealth, money, property and strong power, provide peace and happiness – no that is not true. West Asia is seeing this. Therefore the human race must learn from this a lesson for their development; the lesson that we can not keep our society happy only through wealth and enrichment. A few more things are required, which are called values.

The other thing which we are seeing today is that everybody says that terrorism must end. But everybody's priority is different, everyone is inclined differently. This situation gives strength to the terrorists. Secondly, none of the terrorist groups have their own factories for manufacturing weapons. It means that there are some countries which have weapons and provide them. Which is that route? Why is it not being blocked? The terrorists do not run any money printing machine. Where from the money flows the world over? Where from the strength comes for such big battles? Whether it is funding or communication technology, the governments of the countries of the world can play one or other role. But the outcome will come only when all the people of the world will put in a coordinated effort. Defeating somebody in sporadic incidents is not going to help. That is why humanitarian powers say this.

Secondly, some people have found a way of emotional blackmail in religion. All the people of the world, all societies, all communities and all religious leaders must, with one voice, delink terrorism from religion. Religion has nothing to do with terrorism, it must be clearly pronounced and spread continuously, so that some people who get support for emotional blackmailing and some children who go astray due to emotional reasons, can be prevented. And one thing more – these days some children are getting misled via social media and society must educate them. It must be conveyed to them by people whom they trust. If we continue preaching, they will not listen to us and it is not going to serve any purpose. The only thing that will matter is to talk to them through those on whom they rely. Such people will have to be found. The children have to be constatntly schooled by them. Only then can we save our future generations from the devastating crisis.

Moscow and New Delhi have close or identical views on the majority of current international issues. For instance, our countries are advocates of a multi-polar world where the national interests of all countries and peoples are taken into account. What is your opinion of our cooperation on this issue?

A strong international partnership has been the hallmark of our relations. Russian support in international forums, including in the UN Security Council, through the decades is deeply valued in India. Today, our international cooperation has widened. We work together in a number of international forums, including BRICS, Shanghai Cooperation Organization (where Russian support helped in a decision on India’s full membership this year), G20 and East Asia Summit.

BRICS, which was launched by President Putin, is making a major contribution to international finance and trade, development finance, international terrorism, climate change, food security and sustainable development. BRICS can be an important voice in advancing a more equitable and inclusive global order. In both SCO and East Asia Summit, we can work together in advancing peace and prosperity in two major regions of the world, where we both have vital stakes.

Multipolarity is a global reality. India and Russia represent two faces of a multi-polar world. We want to work with Russia not just for our bilateral interests, but also for a peaceful, stable and sustainable world.

Mr. Prime Minister, as far as I know, in September you turned 65 but you look much younger. Is this due to Yoga, which is getting more popular? And what advice would you like to give those Russians who practice Yoga? What should they do for its promotion in Russia? And I’ve also heard that President Putin has taken interest in Yoga, after you told him about it.

You have asked a very good question. First of all, through you, I want to express my sincere gratitute to all the countries of the world, the United Nations and all the citizens of the world, that when I made a proposal for Internationa Yoga Day in the UN, within 100 days almost all countries of the world endorsed it and in nearly 192 countries the International Yoga Day was celebrated and is a pleasure to me that in Russia at more than 200 locations, the International Yoga Day was celebrated and they say that more than 45,000 people publicly participated in it. This in itself is very important. It is true that Yoga originated in India, so I could say it belongs only to India, but it does not, it is the world's wealth, the wealth of the human race, the world's heritage. And every society in the world promoted or pursued it in its own way and therefore the present form of Yoga has changed a lot, it is very widespread and everybody has contributed in it. So I too, am grateful to all of you. After all, why is Yoga becoming popular? Why is the importance of Yoga growing? Yoga's importance is gowing beacuse, you see, our biggest mistake was that when we discussed health, we addressed illness, we considered health as addressing illness. It is important that we address wellness. So, illness or wellness? Yoga takes us towards wellness. Today the world is going for Holistic health care and Yoga is the perfect science for it. Thirdly, the human life is fractured too. A human’s mind thinks something and his body does something else; the intellect contradicts it. The body, mind and intellect, they are in a fractured state; and we do not even know it. The mind, intellect and body, all three must work in synchronism. It can be achieved through Yoga. Yoga gives you inner strength. Yoga is not a physical exercise. Some people think that yoga is bending the body. Those working in the circus are very good at body bending and Russia is a global leader in circus. But that does not mean Yoga. Yoga is a subject associated with mind, intellect and soul and knowing this form of Yoga is very beneficial. I have also heard that these days President Putin is showing his interest towards Yoga and wherever I go in the world I discuss a lot on Yoga with the World leaders. You are right, I have been myself a Yoga practitioner and if I try to find some time out for myself, that is for Yoga and I am benefited.

Mr. Prime Minister, our program is titled “Formula of Power” and probably you will be in a best position than others to tell the real meaning of “Formula of Power”? What is your “Formula of Power”? How do you understand it?

Our country had also a spiritual thinking. God is conceived in our country. I always say JANTA JANARDHAN, this is form of God, and therefore I consider the power of people as my God. I consider humankind itself as my own Power. I believe people are the strength of my Country and therefore if there is any High Command for me, then it is my 1.25 billion countrymen. If there is any Power for the future of our nation, then it is my 1.25 billion countrymen and therefore my entire dedication, I treat them as Power. And the more I will live for them, the more they will live for the country and that is the real Power for me. In India, power is given a very negative meaning, therefore I am very careful. But I consider it as my JANTA JANARDHAN, power of 1.25 billion countrymen with 2.5 billion hands. If India has a million problems then we have a billion solutions too. I consider it as most important.

Mr. Prime Minister, the New Year will come in just a few days. It’s celebrated in Russia on grand scale and with greath enthusiasm and we are looking forward to it. What would you like to tell Russian people in New Year's message?

I convey my best wishes to the citizens of Russia for the New Year. And when it comes in the form of Monkey you consider it a special significance, even I know this. Its very auspicious. I believe that Russia is continuing to play a global role, it will continue to play a bigger role. Russia's power and strength willl be useful in the cause of world peace – this is my belief – and the Russian citizens will be connected with India in an unbreakable relationship. In the new year, let us make a resolution to work for a terror-free world, we should safeguard the natural resources, and to save them, we must try our best to fulfill our obligations as human beings. I will be once again be conveying my new year wishes to the Citizens of Russia in person, but today, via the media, I am conveying my best wishes all of you from my heart.

First published by TASS.
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The deals being discussed seem to be:-

6 Nuclear Reactors in Andhra Pradesh i.e. around USD 18 Billion Deal
2 more Nuclear Reactors in Tamil Nadu i.e. around USD 6 Billion Deal
4 Talwar Class Ships i.e. around USD 6 Billion Deal
2 Kilo Submarines ??
1 SSN purchase i.e. around USD 2 Billion Deal
Assistance in Indian SSN and SSBN programme ??
5 SA-400 batteries i.e. around USD 4.5 Billion Deal
200-400 Ka-226 Helos i.e. around USD 1 Billion Deal
48 Mi-17 Helos i.e. around USD 1.5 Billion Deal
150 BMP-2s i.e. around USD 100 Million Deal
PAKFA = T-50 i.e. around USD 30 Billion Deal
Spare parts Manufacturing Facility for Su-30MKI-??
Also something about Nano Technology and Diamond industry.
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Modi's touched down in Afghanistan now. Expected to inaugurate the Afghan Parliament tomorrow.

With the Russia visit concluded, do we have any details? Which deals were signed? I read about an agreement between Pipavav and some USC subsidiary potentially worth Rs 30,000 crore, but nothing else.
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First defence partnership under ‘Make in India’: PM Modi signs deal with Russia to manufacture 226 helicopters
In a major push to their strategic ties, India and Russia today decided to expand cooperation in various sectors as they signed 16 pacts, including on joint manufacture of 226 military helicopters and construction of 12 atomic plants with involvement of local companies in India.

16 pacts. So.. one on the Ka-226, one on nuclear power, one on simplifying the visa regime. What else?
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Russia set to ‘Make in India’ n-reactor parts, helicopters
INDIA AND Russia on Thursday agreed to put the government’s flagship “Make in India” programme at the centrestage of their strategic relationship, as New Delhi and Moscow decided to build nuclear reactor components and military helicopters in India.

Apart from helicopters, the agreement is expected to result in the construction of 12 atomic plants with the involvement of Indian firms.

Russia is the first country to have agreed to take the initiative under the “Make in India” umbrella in two key strategic sectors — nuclear and defence.
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Defence shine on trade ties
Moscow, Dec. 24: India and Russia today inked the single biggest deal for joint development of defence equipment New Delhi has witnessed since Prime Minister Narendra Modi came to power promising domestic military manufacture as a key component of his strategic policy.

The intergovernmental agreement on the manufacture of Ka-226T Kamov helicopters, coupled with a similar pact in nuclear energy, also helped offer at least a veneer of growth in the India-Russia economic relationship that both Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin admitted today was a concern.

The two deals don't mean that Russian-designed helicopters will be made in India any time very soon, or that Moscow will allow components manufactured by Indian firms to run its nuclear reactors just yet.

But they capture a desperate desire on both sides to inject a fresh energy to strategic sectors where Russia traditionally hogged the Indian market, yet has had to compete in recent years with the West.

"The intergovernmental agreement on manufacture of Kamov 226 helicopter in India is the first project for a major defence platform under the Make in India mission," Modi said after a three-hour-long series of meetings with Putin and Russian officials at the Kremlin today. "It is rightly with our most important defence partner."

A pact on "localisation" of nuclear components means that Russia will slowly transfer technology to Indian firms to manufacture parts of nuclear reactors domestically. But a joint team is yet to decide the speed of the technology transfer or the monitoring mechanisms Russia is likely to demand.

Similarly, the helicopter pact will now be followed by a joint venture the two sides will set up to decide the modalities of Russia's technology transfer. India does not have the ability to manufacture the Kamov helicopters today, or anytime in the near future, officials cautioned.

But the speed of conclusion of the deal itself is rare given India's tardy record of long delays in finalising defence projects.

"Think about, this Kamov project was discussed first just a year back when President Putin visited India," foreign secretary S Jaishankar said. "And in one year, it's done."
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I think:
desperate desire on both sides to inject a fresh energy
Says it all.

Have no idea what happened to the PAK-FA or the S-400. Hopefully they are under a blanket keeping them warm. No Oil and gas deal? Seems to me more noise than substance.
"Think about, this Kamov project was discussed first just a year back when President Putin visited India," foreign secretary S Jaishankar said. "And in one year, it's done."
Yikes. What a slide.
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Apparently, there were some oil and gas deals too with ONGC and Essar.

I think the important one has been the making of Russian n-reactor components in India (remember Modi got a similar deal with France also).

The KA-226 deal is moving at a glacial pace. If it materializes, with Chhota Bhai adding even 50% of value in India, it will be a good deal IMHO.

The big impact one would be if Tata gets to make the SU-30MKI spares in India.

Chhota Bhai is angling for maintenance and repair deals on the existing Russian equipment with the Indian armed forces. Smart move if he gets it, and good for the country I think.
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Lot of activity, no productivity.

Sad.

That SJ quote - that too - killed my enthusiasm.
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Bharat Karnad (yes!) weighs in -

http://bharatkarnad.com/2015/12/23/enda ... onnection/

He's a maximalist, all right... Still..
Navy wants a Yassen-class SSN, when there are only two such boats in existence, both in Russian naval service. So Yassen won’t happen, unless Modi sweetens the deal enough for one of these submersibles to be detached for use by the Indian Navy.
Such a sweetener, Moscow has hinted, could be Delhi’s taking up the $3.7 billion offer for three Sukhoi-50 PAK FA Fifth generation aircraft along with total transfer of technology — source codes and all, to any Indian entity– not excluding private Indian defence industrial companies. Can any other offer on the table from anywhere compare with such a composite deal? Does the NSA-MEA combo believe the French, Americans, the British or anybody else can top it? Really????
He says -
correct geostrategics is critical — something the Indian Foreign Office and, increasingly, the NSA Ajit Doval, handling foreign policy, seem often to forget.
He may or may not be correct, but one key worry here is GoI especially PM getting enough alternative opinions backed by sufficient intellectual heft?
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The Prime Minister, Shri Narendra Modi meeting the President of Russian Federation, Mr. Vladimir Putin, in Moscow, Russia on December 24, 2015.
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Modi needs an economic strategist in his economic circle and he is sorely lacking in this regard. I also feel that we have one in Generation opportunity to drive hard bargains with France and Russia and we are sorely missing the Chance.
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Doval saheb was dozing in the meeting caught on camera
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The successive governments in New Delhi are too busy trying to figure out how to win the next elections rather than having a broad long term policy to uplift economy or build relationships.
India could and should step into the Russo-Turkish breach.
1. Reduce tax on tourist sector so that all those Russian tourists not going to Turkey or Egypt come here.
2. Turkish construction firms and textiles should be replaced by Indians.
3. India should strive to bring Russian Oil and Gas to India. Kazakhstan and Russia should be added to TAPI pipeline.
4. Demand more work permit visas from Russians. They are short of manpower and will do with technical skills of Indians. Indians dont carry the virus either.
5. India should try to help normalise relations between Japan and Russia. Shinzo Abe wants his country to become "normal". Modi has built good relationship with him. Geopolitical shift will help us all.
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The real big ticket deals (N-Sub, S400, Fighter Jets) will now be under negotiations till Vladimir Putin's vist next year to New Delhi for the BRICS Summit. Narendra Modi's visit this time was solely for the benefit of Chotu Ambani as both the deals signed are for his firms.
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Once again people are smoking something heavy if they think they will get full TOT for $3 or even $6 billion

Karnad is more and more clueless.
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8&9 are the most interesting IMHO, though 12-16 are no pushovers either.

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Once again people are smoking something heavy if they think they will get full TOT for $3 or even $6 billion
Well .............................

You are absolutely right about "people".

However, the original deal -signed up by the Russians, had Indians on a Design and Development team (along with the Russians - some 50-50% mix of so). In that model the Indians were willing to pay the $5 (then $5.5 and now $6) billion for "Design and Development" - the "Process" of designing and developing AND any ToT associated with that process.

So the expectations were never to cleverly sneak in and grab all their IP (legally).

But, the Russians started backing out of even that. And, I do not blame them for backing out, but I do blame them for signing up in the first place. Either they did it intentionally (to get India hooked - which India did for $295 mil) or they miscalculated badly.


Even on these "upgrade" topic (above) I bet they will never deliver what India has in mind. And, I do not expect them to - why would anyone just let their IP go for nothing (what they are being paid is nothing)?

At times I feel that India is going to go back to sleep based on some false hope that Indians themselves have generated/created. There are no shortcuts here. And, I just hope no one is believing that the Russians are going to provide that shortcut - cannot happen.
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Anything is available for the Right Price if we dovetail it with our Geo-strategic Partnership . Problem is that our negotiators have been traditionally interested in Generating money for their/Politicos Swiss Accounts rather then protecting Indian Interests. Russia is surrounded with enemies and needs Technological partners and we can provide money to support their programmes. The second point is whether we have labs, manpower to absorb what we get.

Note - China and J-20
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suryag wrote:Doval saheb was dozing in the meeting caught on camera
Or they took a pic when he had his eyes closed and try to spin that as doval saar dozing. Our MSM is famous for such crooked tricks.
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Vipul wrote:The real big ticket deals (N-Sub, S400, Fighter Jets) will now be under negotiations till Vladimir Putin's vist next year to New Delhi for the BRICS Summit. Narendra Modi's visit this time was solely for the benefit of Chotu Ambani as both the deals signed are for his firms.
If Chotu Ambani is willing to put up the money for proper JVs he deserves the benefits. Risk and reward sir.
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uddu wrote:The Prime Minister, Shri Narendra Modi meeting the President of Russian Federation, Mr. Vladimir Putin, in Moscow, Russia on December 24, 2015.
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There is genuine friendliness in the body language between both guys. Looks like they got along well.
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Surya wrote:Once again people are smoking something heavy if they think they will get full TOT for $3 or even $6 billion

Karnad is more and more clueless.
Karnad is one more of the strategic analysts we have who thinks india can't do anything on its own without baksheesh from the real powers. Once in a while he'll wake up and harp on local industry but these guys basically have no real interest in or track local industrial capability, so the mindset is please russia or US or france, please help us.
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I am not seeing bonhommie with Putin, based on body language. I see a certain formality and rigidness, like two divorced partners meeting in public, both recognizing that things have changed, yet wishing what could have been.

Secondly, Putin and Modi are 2 different types of people. Putin is macho, riding siberian tigers bare chested, whereas Modi does yoga with school kids. Modi's personality type matches Obama, as opposed to a hard nosed ex KGB.

My expectation is that any deals will be based on cold hard business decisions. Where we retain the edge is that Russia still trusts us to keep their technology safe, but their primo uno attention is now with the chineese. This will not change until, China is significantly weakened, or the Russian economy strengthens.
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i think some very hard nosed negotiations may be going on where Russians might be playing a hand which they don't have the cards for. Russians need to be realistic about the fact that they need Indians.
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^^^ I agree, the body language clearly states that India is not a friend anymore that once it used to be. It is more like photo op pretending to smile that's all for all to read openly. That's why you didn't see anything announced from 400, submarines ityadi. To me looks like Russia said something to desh or vice a versa which is like no discussion after that. The agreements signed where india needed desperately power and Russia moolah's desperately. High end stuff not mentioned anywhere. I am even skeptical if any submarines will come, sad because we needed atleast three submarines two diesel and one N.
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The rumour is that Russia is linking S400 with PAK-FA deal and submarine with buying 4 more frigates, neither of which bania (used in good sense of the term) Modiji is keen on. It may be a high stakes poker to see who blinks first.
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We have the capacity to do research and develop most of this stuff by ourselves. We really don't need the Russians for much anymore barring perhaps the high technology/energy front.
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The most Needed and immediate help we need from Russia is in material science technology.

It's time we have a Indian Institute of Metals and Stretigic Materials

IiMSM



Added later

Folks there is nothing Indian can not do by itself....

It is just that we are lazy ( Indian industry and leadership in all always looking for Screw Driver technology,

We have everything to make may be not latest generation technology.

But we latest -1 or -2 technology, we have brains, we have traditions in making things from investment castings alloying, sintering, pressure die casting, forging welding, you name it we have it, CNC machines...

It's is kind of Lotus Eater attitude and to an extent risk eversion bad program management
With huge doze of Chalta Hai attitude.



Sorry for the rant, it's a cry of anguish.
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Guddu wrote:I am not seeing bonhommie with Putin, based on body language. I see a certain formality and rigidness, like two divorced partners meeting in public, both recognizing that things have changed, yet wishing what could have been.
heh. more like everyone is reading what they think is actually happening viz the relationship. its all guesswork i guess.
both putin and modi, are harda$$es who are into their own national goals. as long as they coincide, all is well.
but any rate we won't have the EJ and SD driven qtiyapa we get from khan, which is always a plus.
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krishna_krishna wrote:^^^ I agree, the body language clearly states that India is not a friend anymore that once it used to be. It is more like photo op pretending to smile that's all for all to read openly. That's why you didn't see anything announced from 400, submarines ityadi. To me looks like Russia said something to desh or vice a versa which is like no discussion after that. The agreements signed where india needed desperately power and Russia moolah's desperately. High end stuff not mentioned anywhere. I am even skeptical if any submarines will come, sad because we needed atleast three submarines two diesel and one N.
how does body language or anything relate to s-400 or submarines? that's just plain and simple DAC led process which will take time. the nuke reactors and other deals announced will probably be >> than s-400 in dollar terms.
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Karan M wrote:
uddu wrote:The Prime Minister, Shri Narendra Modi meeting the President of Russian Federation, Mr. Vladimir Putin, in Moscow, Russia on December 24, 2015.
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There is genuine friendliness in the body language between both guys. Looks like they got along well.

Zoom in and look at the handshakes, Modiji surely looks like having a firmer grip than that of KGB-commando Shri Putin.

Regardless, I think this is a relationship of symbiotic mutualism. And was preplanned by MAD team as a precursor to Af-Pak-Congi rout.

I am loving it.
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hmmm looks i set off something with that comment on langwidge, anyways from the agreements signed it seems to have been a productive visit.

hopefully GLONASS and HEC agreements will help our strategic programs.

i guess i am swimming against the tide here but i am happy no more big ticket weapons deals were signed. we have done enough purchasing from abroad. time to look within, as part of a methodical process.
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