Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby Sid » 07 Jan 2016 10:58

Jhujar wrote:Which gun is this ?
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QBZ 95

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Postby ArmenT » 07 Jan 2016 11:01

^^^
Looks like a Chinese Norinco QBZ-95 with scope and grenade launcher attached. The giveaway is the hooded front sight (which is also a feature in the type-56 and in some other Chinese rifles also) and the fact that it is a bullpup.

[edit]I see Sid said the same thing while I was typing my post :)[/edit]

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Postby Singha » 09 Jan 2016 20:33

discovery hd channel will show a new program on IA/IAF in siachen on 26 jan.



@ 0:13 in the trailer the soldier leaning out the heli looks SEALish...has a M4 with optical sight. is this our SF kit - I thought it was uniformly TAR21 now and ak56 if needed?

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Postby rohitvats » 09 Jan 2016 20:52

^^^M4 is a big hit with SF.

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Postby Nikhil T » 10 Jan 2016 05:51

Manish Tiwari: Indian Express story on troop movement was correct

Pasting report here for our record. Knowing Manish Tiwari's hatred for everything BJP, this is probably just a shot at Gen (retd.) VKS.

"At that time, I used to serve in the Standing Committee of Defence. And it's unfortunate, but the story was true. The story was correct," he said.
"I am not getting into an argument. All I am saying is that to the best of my knowledge that story was correct," said Tewari during a book launch function here.

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Postby jayasimha » 11 Jan 2016 19:07

http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease. ... lid=134367

nice pictures. but not posting due to size

School of Artillery Conducts Exercise ‘Sarvatra Prahar’ at Devlali Field Firing Ranges

“Ex Sarvatra Prahar” was conducted by the School of Artillery at Devlali on 08 & 11 January 2016, where a plethora of equipment showcasing the Regiment of Artillery was employed and its firepower displayed. The exercise was conducted through a tactical situation requiring an appreciation of the operation and preparation of an Artillery fire plan in support of the operation.



During the exercise the entire range of guns, from the indigenous 120 mm Mortars, 155 mm Soltam, 105 mm Indian Field Gun, 105 mm Light Field Gun, 130 mm Medium Gun to the sophisticated 155 mm FH 77B Bofors and 122 mm Multi Barrel Rocket Launcher GRAD BM 21, demonstrated their destructive power. The ‘Gunners’ demonstrated accuracy, consistency and the overwhelming power of the Artillery by simultaneous engagement of targets with a number of guns.



An array of new generation rocket and missile systems like Pinaka, Smerch and a model of Brahmos missile were also displayed. Surveillance and Target Acquisition equipment like the Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, Surveillance Sensors and Weapon Locating Radars were also showcased during the exercise. These Surveillance and Target Acquisition devices, when used in conjunction with the guns, are capable of enhancing the effect of fire power, thereby acting as Force multipliers.



A special draw was the Combat Free Fall by Special Forces team and Cheetah and Chetak helicopters flown by Army Aviators, which airlifted a 120 mm mortar as part of the exercise for delivering firepower resources to inaccessible areas.



The event was witnessed by officers of Defence Services Staff College, Wellington, Cadets from National Defence Academy (NDA), Young Officers from College of Military Engineering (CME) and Military Institute of Technology, Pune. Lieutenant General J George, Commandant, School of Artillery, interacted with various participants and delegations who attended the event. Apart from this, a large number of school children and NCC cadets also attended the display, which gave them a glimpse of the might of the Indian Army’s arm of Artillery and motivated the young minds

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby jayasimha » 11 Jan 2016 19:12

ek or..

http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease. ... lid=134361

Army Day Seminar on Capability Development and Indigenisation of Indian Army in a Futuristic Context

A two day Seminar on “Capability Development and Indigenisation of Indian Army in a Futuristic Context” has commenced at the Manekshaw Centre, Delhi Cantt, today. The Seminar, being organised by the Indian Army on 11 and 12 January is one of the major initiatives in the run-up to the Army Day this year. Hon’ble Raksha Mantri inaugurated the Seminar. General Dalbir Singh, the Chief of the Army Staff and Lt Gen MMS Rai, Vice Chief of the Army Staff were present along with other senior officers from the MoD, the armed forces, DRDO and the strategic community.

Delivering the inaugural address, Raksha Mantri Shri Manohar Parrikar stressed for calibrating own capability and response due to increased challenges in the prevalent security scenario. He further added that ‘Make in India’ is a mindset and requires complete synergy between all stakeholders. He expressed the hope that seminar would throw up fresh ideas on the stated theme of the seminar.

Speaking on the occasion, the Chief of the Army Staff General Dalbir Singh highlighted the importance of capability development and indigenisation. He said that capability development is an ongoing process which is vital for any organization for its growth. The COAS also added that the success of any army depends on latest technology and its absorption by the user. With regards to the indigenisation, he mentioned that the national focus, today, is towards indigenization in the form of ‘Make in India’ Initiative.

The two day event seeks to carry out comprehensive appraisal of the capability development needs of the Indian Army, current status and future challenges. The discussions will focus on exploring different approaches to meet sustainable capability development keeping indigenisation as the core mantra within.

The Raksha Mantri also inaugurated an exhibition displaying products by defence industries. The industry was represented in large number by senior representatives and project leaders from leading companies in the defence sector.

Col Rohan Anand, SM

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby Nick_S » 13 Jan 2016 11:32

Rajat Pandit ‏@rajatpTOI 24m24 minutes ago New Delhi, Delhi
Army chief Gen Dalbir Singh Suhag says his force setting up new Army Design Bureau to help in procurements & indigenisation.

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Postby wig » 14 Jan 2016 10:10

Raising of Mountain Strike Corps by six years: Army chief

Gen Dalbir Singh Suhag today said that the Mountain Strike Corps, aimed at countering threats from China, would be raised as per the schedule by 2021 and termed acquisition of artillery guns and third generation missiles as “critical areas” for modernisation of the force.

He pushed for the ‘Make in India’ initiative and said the force was setting up an Army Design Bureau to concentrate on design and providing technological inputs to DRDO and Ordinance Factory Board.

He said that 84 per cent of the procurement contracts signed during the last two years by the Army has been with Indian companies.

Suhag added that maximum army procurement schemes in the last five years have been for Indian companies and it stood at 73 per cent.

Asked about reports that the Government was restructuring the Mountain Strike Corps, he said there is no move to slow down its raising.

“A target was kept of nine years and we are on target to raise it by 2021,” he told reporters here. He added that there has been no budgetary cuts.


http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/raising-o ... rmy-chief/

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Postby VinodTK » 15 Jan 2016 05:44

^^^^China strike force back on course
New Delhi, Jan. 14: The Narendra Modi government has revised its decision to slash the size of a China-specific army formation and returned to the UPA plan of raising the Mountain Strike Corps in eight years.

The decision to raise the 17 Corps, meant specifically for the 3,448km China frontier from Arunachal Pradesh to Ladakh, was taken by the cabinet committee on security in July 2013. Its headquarters was planned at Panagarh in Bengal, with a forward establishment in Pathankot.

But in April last year, defence minister Manohar Parrikar said the government was short of funds and was taking a re-look at the raising of the corps. He added that the UPA government had cleared the plan for the corps without making adequate budget allocations.

However, the army chief, General Dalbir Singh Suhag, said on Wednesday that "the raising of the Mountain Strike Corps is as per schedule till (the year) 2021". He said there had been no cuts in budget allocations for the fresh raisings.

Parrikar's announcement last year had deeply worried the security establishment. One officer had told The Telegraph that "operational considerations outlive changes of government".

Part of the reason for the revision in the government's stand is the restructuring that China is carrying out in its People's Liberation Army and allied forces. Although China has announced a cut in the size of its forces, Indian military analysts have concluded that this relates to the "tail" and not the "teeth".

In military parlance, the combat arms make up the "teeth" and the supply lines make up the "tail". China has also announced plans to unify multiple commands into a single one, meant probably for its disputed frontier with India.

General Suhag said the Indian and Chinese armies were in talks to establish a hotline between their directorates-general of military operations. This will be a confidence-building measure between the two militaries at the highest level.

India and Pakistan have such an arrangement. The Chinese and Indian armies are also looking at opening two more border-personnel meeting points this year.

Through these confidence-building measures, New Delhi hopes to sustain the relative tranquillity on the China frontier.

The revised decision to stick to the schedule of raising the Mountain Strike Corps means that the focus will continue to remain on military infrastructure-building in India's eastern theatre.

Key establishments of the new corps will be based in Bengal, in the existing military cantonments of Panagarh and Barrackpore, while division and brigade headquarters will be built in Bihar and Assam.

The air force too has decided that its next squadron of Hercules C130J transport aircraft, made by America's Lockheed Martin, will be based in Bengal. (The only other squadron is based at Hindon near Delhi).

A strike corps is larger and more mobile than a defensive or "pivot" corps and is an integrated formation with elements of infantry, mechanised and armoured forces, airlift capability, and artillery.

Generally, a corps has two or three infantry divisions backed up by artillery. The Mountain Strike Corps may have four.

For the Mountain Strike Corps, the requirement of "wheels" - ground mobile platforms - will be lower compared with a strike corps assigned an operational area in the plains. But its aviation component - mainly helicopters - will be larger than usual. A strike corps also has elements of the air force dedicated to it.

The nature of mountain warfare dictates the taking of high vantage positions. The army has assessed that the new formation should have 45,000 to 50,000 soldiers.

A temporary headquarters has been set up near Ranchi. The army has been scouting for and acquiring land across India's east and the Northeast to base the units that will be included in the new corps.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby BharadwajV » 15 Jan 2016 08:42

Warning: Cuteness Overload.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1069073759822740
These will draw a lot of "Awww!" from the crowds.

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Postby Philip » 15 Jan 2016 10:41

Media reports that IA design team and more indigenization on the cards,apart from the MSC news.What was also interesting were the stats on MBTs. 124 Arjuns,around 900 T-90s and 1700 (or was it 2,700?) T-72s. The huge no. of T-72s ,still the backbone of the IA ,means that it is too valuable a resource to dump anytime soon ,why deep upgrades are in the pipeline.It would be interesting to see the cost stats for the entire lot of MBTs,upgrades and new.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby chetak » 15 Jan 2016 16:28

NDA recruitment scam: Black Label bottles, cash as bribe, favourable officers posted on recruitment panel


NDA recruitment scam: Black Label bottles, cash as bribe, favourable officers posted on recruitment panel


Written by Sushant Kulkarni
Pune
Jan 12, 2016,

THE DETAILS that have emerged from the chargesheet filed by the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), in connection with the recruitment scam at the National Defence Academy (NDA) in 2012, highlighting the level of corruption in the premier tri-services training establishment of India, is like opening a Pandora’s box.

From bottles of expensive Scotch whiskey given as kickbacks along with bribe money; favourable officers being posted on recruitment committee by handwritten orders and the complicity of a long chain of persons from a cycle repairer to the then Commandant of the NDA in the alleged recruitment scam — these are some of the startling revelations that came to the fore when The Indian Express got access to the chargesheet on Monday that was filed on December 28, 2015 by the CBI.

In June 2012, the CBI had unearthed a scam in the recruitment of Class C employees and had then arrested Col Kulbir Singh, who was staff officer to the then Commandant Lt Gen Jatinder Singh, and then Physical Training Officer (PTO) Col AK Singh, besides a civilian staffer of the academy and five others who acted as ‘agents.’ Lt Gen Singh was transferred in a month’s time after the CBI wrote to the Defence Ministry, seeking the same to facilitate an ‘unbiased probe.’ In September 2012, Lt Gen Singh, now retired, was grilled by the CBI for two days.

On December 28 last year, over three-and-a-half years after the initial action, the CBI filed a chargesheet against Col Kulbir Singh for entering into criminal conspiracy with Col AK Singh, the then Commandant Lt Gen Jatinder Singh, the then Establishment Officer of NDA Suhas Waghmare, groundsman Bhagwan More, Sub Major Vasant Aajmane, cycle repairer Ramesh Gaikwad, a staffer at CAFVD Khadki Dattatraya Shitkal, then store keeper Ordnance Depot, Dehu Road, Manoj Shitkal and civilians Balkishan Kanolia, Vishnu Sharma and Pankaj Sharma.

The chargesheet says, “Col Kulbir Singh in criminal conspiracy with the other co-accused persons, promised appointments to candidates appearing for the recruitment of 97 posts Group C employees in NDA in return for an illegal gratification of Rs 3.5 lakh per candidate. He, accordingly, received illegal gratifications from the candidates through other co-accused persons, which was subsequently recovered by CBI— this amounted to Rs 82 lakh on his own disclosure and Rs 4.8 lakh during searches from his residence.” According to the CBI, Rs 1.76 crore were recovered from the searches conducted at houses of various people involved.

The CBI probe reveals that based on information given by Col Kulbir Singh, an amount of Rs four lakh and 12 bottles of Black Label Whiskey were recovered from the house of the brother of co-accused, Lt Gen Jatinder Singh, which was out of the illegal gratifications collected by him, states the chargesheet. CBI sources said that the brother was handed over these bottles and cash in a posh hotel in Mumbai.

What further corroborates the role of Lt Gen Singh in the scam is a Layered Voice Analysis (LVA) test conducted on him. “The test confirms that he was aware of the malpractice in NDA and obtained Rs 30 lakh from Col Kulbir Singh as his share of illegal gratification. He was also aware of the complaints of corruption in NDA against Col Kulbir Singh.” the chargesheet states.

The Indian Express has reported in the past that most of the candidates who paid the bribe money were from Khadakwasla, where NDA is located, and the surrounding villages. These people were tapped by the arrested civilians, who acted as middlemen. The cycle repairer, groundsman and other staffers held by the CBI also acted as middlemen as they knew the local candidates. CBI had tapped hundreds of phone calls between the people named in the chargesheet, which further strengthens its theory. Many candidates were asked by the accused persons to leave their answer sheets blank and expect a call letter subsequently.
The recruitment could never be completed as CBI initiated its action and this was followed by arrests. The CBI had got the list of candidates who had paid up from the a pen drive seized from AK Singh. The candidates had told the CBI that they had paid these agents as candidates knew them personally or got introduced to them through someone else. The chargesheet states, “CBI probe had found that Col AK Singh, in order to destroy the evidence, got some documents burnt, deleted data from his computer and concealed his laptop and pen drive.”

In another revelation, chargesheet states that for the recruitment process, the name of the naval officer posted in NDA, Commander Noor Mohammed, who was then heading the Naval Training Team, was proposed to act as Presiding Officer of Board of Officers. “It was changed by co-accused Lt Gen Jatinder Singh, in his handwriting, and in his place, accused Col A K Singh, was appointed as the Presiding Officer of the concerned Board. Thus, Col AK Singh was very much in a position to manipulate the recruitment process.” states the chargesheet.

A press statement issued by the CBI about the chargesheet states, “The public is reminded that the findings are based on the investigation done by CBI and evidence collected by it. Under the Indian Law, the accused are presumed to be innocent till their guilt is finally established after a fair trial.”

1. Col Kulbir Singh in criminal conspiracy with other co-accused persons, promised appointments to candidates appearing for the recruitment of 97 posts Group C employees in NDA in return for an illegal gratification of Rs 3.5 lakh per candidate.

2. He, accordingly, received illegal gratifications from the candidates, which the CBI recovered, amounting to Rs 82 lakh on his own disclosure and Rs 4.8 lakh during searches from his residence.

3. An amount of Rs four lakh and 12 bottles of Black Label whiskey were recovered from the house of the brother of co-accused, Lt Gen Jatinder Singh.
4. Col AK Singh, in order to destroy the evidence, got some documents burnt, deleted data from his computer and concealed his laptop and pen drive.

5. For the recruitment process, the name of the naval officer posted in NDA, Commander Noor Mohammed, who was then heading the Naval Training Team, was proposed to act as Presiding Officer of Board of Officers, was changed by co-accused Lt Gen Jatinder Singh, in his handwriting and in his place, accused Col A K Singh, was appointed as the Presiding Officer of the concerned Board.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby uddu » 15 Jan 2016 16:47

Revealed: The Line Of Control in Nat Geo tonight at 9.
Those who can record it, pls do.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby Avik » 15 Jan 2016 17:58

China strike force back on course


Its headquarters was planned at Panagarh in Bengal, with a forward establishment in Pathankot.


Generally, a corps has two or three infantry divisions backed up by artillery. The Mountain Strike Corps may have four.


Good to see momentum on this....the original plan was to have two MSCs..one for the Eastern theater and the other one for the Northern Theater.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby Karan M » 15 Jan 2016 23:00

This is the tip of the iceberg. Under the UPA, everything was up for grabs. As they say, fish rot from the head. Similarly, when the top was thoroughly compromised that's the message taken by everyone else.

chetak wrote:NDA recruitment scam: Black Label bottles, cash as bribe, favourable officers posted on recruitment panel

NDA recruitment scam: Black Label bottles, cash as bribe, favourable officers posted on recruitment panel

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Postby Karan M » 15 Jan 2016 23:18

BharadwajV wrote:Warning: Cuteness Overload.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1069073759822740
These will draw a lot of "Awww!" from the crowds.


Seriously. Too cute!!

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby Khalsa » 16 Jan 2016 00:37

Karan M wrote:
BharadwajV wrote:Warning: Cuteness Overload.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1069073759822740
These will draw a lot of "Awww!" from the crowds.


Seriously. Too cute!!



Oh my god that is indeed so so so so cute.
Did they look damn fine with their dress when they march...

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby shiv » 16 Jan 2016 06:39

BharadwajV wrote:Warning: Cuteness Overload.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1069073759822740
These will draw a lot of "Awww!" from the crowds.

WOW! Thanks for posting. It's relaxing just to look at them.

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Postby member_26011 » 16 Jan 2016 08:33

BharadwajV wrote:Warning: Cuteness Overload.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1069073759822740
These will draw a lot of "Awww!" from the crowds.



Cool! (Time to send Paco a postcard. )
What are most popular breeds in the Army?

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby SaiK » 16 Jan 2016 23:00

IA is learning at last.. but firstly they should look at making Arjun Mk2 numbers at the T72 levels and as replacements as the largest inducted tanks. T72 must be phased out.. we have about 2400 now, and essentially we can look at 3000 tanks with

Arjun Mk2 60T 400-800
Chota Arjun 40T 1500 [2 seaters with netcenctric and buddy collaborated attack modes]

Arjun robotic tanks 20-30T remote controlled and buddy refuelled and buddy logistic supplied, all robotic missions for the forward movements.

robotic tanks with robotic supply/chain are the future.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby pragnya » 17 Jan 2016 10:18

rohitvats,

bharat karnad stresses on our 'excessive' focus on pakistan while forgetting the real one - china. he notes pakistan at best is a 'nuisance' than anything. while we make our dislike of the american view of equal equal with pakistan, we do the equal equal ourselves by focussing too much on it and in the bargain play into the hands of pakistan's policy of parity with us - a success of its foreign policy, he notes. he compares pak's size in terms of physical, economical, military, position in the world order etc. to make his points.

while i may not agree with everything he says, it is hard not to agree with him on some. since you know IA, its structure, manpower, equipment, deployment, orbat etc. some queries.

1. reduction/rationalisation of armoured formations - this as per BK, takes 26% of IA budget which is waste of resources and also ATGM proliferating makes their use unviable. he cites IA armour lobby is stuck in world war 2 mentality and unwilling to do this.

how best this can be done without losing the edge? how many of these can be transferred to the Mountain corp where they can be deployed in tankable areas?

2. the three strke corps be restructured as 'one' with many IBGs - he says the manpower/equipment is too huge and not needed.

again how best the manpower/equipment can be optimally transferred to the Mountain corps without impinging on our edge? can atleast one of the corps be disbanded? is it feasible? if yes, how?

3. disbanding the Prithvi missiles

this imo can be done with Prahar taking its place.

most of his points will mean better and optimum utilisation of the budget, manpower, equipment without additional burden (or possibly minimal) and focus shifting to china while retaining the edge on Pakistan. what would be your analysis?

TIA.

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Postby ArmenT » 17 Jan 2016 11:53

A request please. There is a new article on the BRF Army site:
The Making of a Maratha Soldier - Maratha Light Infantry

Video was uploaded courtesy of Shiv. Would appreciate a volunteer or two to check up on the work and provide Hindi --> English translations to the needed sections (they are marked as "translation needed"). Due credit will be given :)

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby chetak » 17 Jan 2016 16:29

Anupam Ray ‏@anupamifs Jan 13
Anupam Ray Retweeted PIB India

Lets celebrate a life that celebrates India - the only Army in world where Jew & Muslim can be Generals together Anupam Ray added,

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PIB India @PIB_India

A tribute, to a great hero of the #BangladeshWar, Lt Gen JFR Jacob (pics courtesy various sources & The Telegraph)

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby Karan M » 17 Jan 2016 23:24

Reminds me of how George Fernandes in NDA 1 sent some of these fatcat babus to ops areas.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... ocialMedia

A panel on defence reforms has frowned upon the rejection of compensation claims of service personnel and has recommended that the officials of defence accounts department should be made to serve in tough forward areas to have a first-hand experience of problems faced by soldiers. - See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... 34j1O.dpuf

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby Karan M » 17 Jan 2016 23:26

Slime need to be held to account.

The Panel has further noted that financial authorities “are bent upon overriding law and decisions, taken by executive authorities and constitutional courts, and even statements made before parliamentary committees”. The panel has provided examples of benefits refused by financial authorities on objections such as death occurred on “line of actual control” and not on “line of control” or by stating that a soldier killed by a leopard while on duty in a jungle area was just a ‘carpenter’ by trade or refusing benefits to those dying due to falls or cardiac arrests in Counter Insurgency operations even in one of the coldest places on earth.

Noting that it was “at a loss to comprehend why negative energy and multiple reams of papers should be wasted on such matters concerning benefits of soldiers and deceased soldiers” the panel has urged immediate reforms.

In the last ten years, benefits to more than 400 deaths and disabilities in operational areas have been rejected or not processed by financial authorities or the defence accounts departments. Defence sources say that the same continues despite the Supreme Court and High Courts having repeatedly ruled that restrictive and perverse interpretation of rules was not warranted and such personnel and families were entitled to higher pensionary and disability benefits.


Officers in the know of such cases say that while no major problem was faced earlier, the tirade of rejections started in 2009 and continues till date.

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Postby arshyam » 18 Jan 2016 10:35

x-post from Nukkad.
Found another interesting show in the link Javee saar posted in the last page.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/pongal-specia ... 1000082064 (in Tamil only)

A one hour show on some Army related tidbits, and a discussion by a few retired personnel and their family on what it takes to serve. The best part was this unforgettable quote of the mother of Lt N Parthiban, Kirti Chakra: "I only wish my son had lived longer so he could have served more". This from a mother having lost her son, whose husband was a retd. Major, and whose two sons-in-law are also in the forces. Damn, that was inspiring.

Or the village of Kammavaanpettai, Vellore, in which every family has someone in the Army.

Or a senior retd. officer's description of the Unknown Soldier, an officer at Siachen who chooses to wait in a ravine along with his man who is trapped there, so that he could stay alive till help arrives.

Lastly, the clip of Major Mukund Varadarajan, Ashoka Chakra, singing the famous Bharatiar song "Acchamillai acchamillai" along with his little girl was very moving.

Take a bow, Star Vijay, for a well done show. I hope they make it into a regular series.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby chetak » 18 Jan 2016 11:07

viva kermani ‏@vivakermani 16h16 hours ago Bengaluru, Karnataka

Being childless & having no known blood relatives,Jewish prayer 4 General Jacob recited by Israel's military attaché

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby rohitvats » 19 Jan 2016 00:05

pragnya wrote:<SNIP>He notes pakistan at best is a 'nuisance' than anything. while we make our dislike of the american view of equal equal with pakistan, we do the equal equal ourselves by focussing too much on it and in the bargain play into the hands of pakistan's policy of parity with us - a success of its foreign policy, he notes. he compares pak's size in terms of physical, economical, military, position in the world order etc. to make his points.


pragnya - the argument which BK makes are absurd at many levels. And they seem to not be born out of a detailed thought process. For example - this argument about Pakistan being a nuisance and we doing an '==' ourselves by giving too much focus on them.

My counter-question is this - what role does India play in Pakistan's consciousness, policy and military planning? You know the answer to this one as much as I do. And so do others. If not 100%, 99.9% at least!

The size of Pakistan Army, other Services and nuclear program, not to forget use of religion and jihad, are all because obsession which Pakistan has with India. As a country, Pakistan has one of the highest population to men-under-arms ratio. Now, if Pakistan places half a million troops, some 300-400 combat aircraft, 6-7 most advanced submarines, 1500+ tanks against India, what are we supposed to do?

I will be forced to develop armed forces which not only match my adversary but allow me to win a war - which again means more favorable ratio than simply going toe to toe. But as against BK's assertion, look at numbers from either side will tell you that India does not enjoy clear superiority in numbers. Favorable ratios are to be had and aimed for through intelligent deployment and in geographical/theater sense. So, in Southern Pakistani Punjab and Sindh, India may have 2:1 ratio in battle tanks. And when applying this armored force, we may try and achieve still better ratios.

I'm leaving out the technology as force multiplier bit here for the moment.

But truth be told, India has not actually used its economic muscle to build outright dominating ratios. People would recall that Sundarji's Army Plan 2000 called for 4 x Armored Divisions and 7 x Mechanized Divisions!

Long story short - when my adversary points a gun towards me, I'll have to do one better and point a bloody RL against him. Remember, there are no runner ups in war.

1. reduction/rationalisation of armoured formations - this as per BK, takes 26% of IA budget which is waste of resources and also ATGM proliferating makes their use unviable. he cites IA armour lobby is stuck in world war 2 mentality and unwilling to do this.

how best this can be done without losing the edge? how many of these can be transferred to the Mountain corp where they can be deployed in tankable areas?


This is one argument I've never been able to understand.

Your enemy has 2 x armored divisions, 2 x mechanized divisions, 7/8 independent armored brigades and BK wants India to not have the number of tanks that it has? Hell, I'm one of those who feels India needs a minimum of 4 armored divisions, though I'd prefer 05. And more mechanization.

It was the might of India's three armored divisions arrayed in the desert/south Indian Punjab which made Pakees shit bricks and deploy their famed 1st Armored Division in defensive role...and which compelled Bandicoot to come on PTV and smoke the peace pipe. Not to forget that Pakistan had aimed both its reserves (Army Reserve North and Army Reserve South), their equivalent of Strike Corps, against Indian Punjab when Sundarji has their undies in twist during Operation Brasstacks.

Question is - if IA gives up or downsizes its armored strength, what safety net do we have against Pakistan armored? And how are we to smash through Pakistan's defenses, fight a short and intense war and downgrade its war-fighting potential?

What is maneuver warfare without armored/mechanized formations?

One of the objectives of Cold Start Doctrine has been to ensure Integrated Battle Groups (IBG) with Pivot Corps should be able to attack and create openings through Pakistan's first line. This will force Pakistan to commit it reserves giving an opportunity to Indian planners to deploy own reserves/strike corps in a more favorable manner.

The whole Pakistani response to India's CSD has been to makes their Pivot Corps more stronger so as to not allow IBGs to break through, so that they don't have to commit their reserves. Instead Pakistan is trying hard to ensure that we're back to square one where each side tries to guess the deployment of other's reserves.

As for ATGM and tanks - tanks have evolved along with ATGM. Sure, our mechanized forces will take casualties from ATGM but that does not negate their usage. And the same argument applies to Pakistan Army as well? Ever heard Pakistanis talking about winding down their armored formations?

MSC - only place MSC can use tanks is eastern Ladakh. That too central and south eastern. IA is in process of placing an independent armored brigade there. Whether we have room for a full fledged armored division supported by a mechanized divisions/RAPID is for army to answer.

But the argument makes sense - IA could dual tasks couple of armored brigades for deployment in Ladakh. And train for the purpose and put in place logistics for the same.

2. the three strke corps be restructured as 'one' with many IBGs - he says the manpower/equipment is too huge and not needed.

again how best the manpower/equipment can be optimally transferred to the Mountain corps without impinging on our edge? can atleast one of the corps be disbanded? is it feasible? if yes, how?


First and foremost, we have this business of Strike and Pivot Corps because we lack resources and hence, place the most powerful assets in few formations. And this is not only about tanks but other things like engineering assets, AD missiles, mobile AD assets etc.

Now that we've more things coming in, along with advent of CSD, that assets like SP SAM Group (Kvadrat) which was earlier with one of the Strike Corps has been transferred to 12 Corps in Jodhpur (source: Sainik Samachar). Akash SAM Groups will most likely replace them in Strike Corps.

Again, someone tell me this - if managing three strike corps is difficult, how big will a single strike corps be and how easy/difficult managing such a force will be? And where ALL will you deploy such a corps?

As I said, BK makes arguments w/o elaborating them and we're left arguing basis whatever he shares. Which makes no head or tail. But let us create a scenario.

Assume we retain only one Strike Corps with powerful IBGs. Assets from balance Strike Corps are transferred to Pivot Corps.

Now, how many IBGs can a single Strike Corps throw up? Four at best, I suppose.

But this Strike Corps can best service requirement or be deployed only in a limited geography. What happens to requirement in other sectors? Today, you've Strike Corps in Bhopal, Mathura and Ambala with assets in larger area. They can respond to requirements in certain sectors. But can the same be said of a single such entity?

OK, we assume that multiple powerful IBGs can be deployed independent of the whole Corps. Then Strike Corps becomes more of a shell formation holding assets than formation which works as a whole.

I'd need to place these IBGs in a manner where they're available to respond to requirements in minimum possible time (remember, one of the lessons from Parakaram was to reduce mobilization time?). Also, given the number of such IBGs, you'll need to prioritize area from Samba to Barmer which will be served by these IBGs when required. You can have a situation where 2 x IBGs go north, 1 x IBG goes to northern Rajasthan and last one goes to Barmer. But then, you'll have to position them accordingly.

This also means that Pivot Corps need to have enough of engineering assets required to support larger mechanized force when IBGs from reserve corps joins it.

But what happens to dictum of concentration of force and firepower when you parcel them as IBGs? Will deployment of these IBGs give IA the superiority required in a particular sector?

Assume further that we parcel 8 other armored brigades (from two other armored divisions+(I) armored brigades with other strike corps) to Pivot Corps. And most Pivot Corps end up with 3 independent armored brigades. Well, shouldn't then I simply go ahead and create an armored division in each of Pivot Corps for better command & control?

What the above does is that it places all your cards on the table from word go. And you've limited reserves in your single strike corps and its 4/5 IBGs, though powerful ones.

But the above is not 'doing away' with strike corps. Or, reducing the armor. It's simply redistributing the same assets. Sure, it will lead to cutting down on 'tail' required to maintain whole Corps. This is because when 'teeth' are redistributed from a Strike Corps to a Pivot Corps, then corresponding tail in the Strike Corps goes is not required. Instead, the 'tail' in the Pivot Corps grows from X to X+delta and not 2X.

The above scenario is opposite to Point 1 mentioned above by you. If BK wants Point 1 and Point 2, well, then might as well hand over the keys to Red Fort to the Pakistan Army. :roll:

In fact, I remember VKS talking about rationalization of reserves and Strike Corps. He also spoke about a single strike corps but no additional details are available. And I'm sure he wasn't going to implement any harebrained ideas like BK.

3. disbanding the Prithvi missiles

this imo can be done with Prahar taking its place.

most of his points will mean better and optimum utilisation of the budget, manpower, equipment without additional burden (or possibly minimal) and focus shifting to china while retaining the edge on Pakistan. what would be your analysis? TIA.


It is my considered opinion that Prithvi Missiles are with SFC and I think Pakistan knows this. But I'm not sure we're going to use Prithvi for taking out tactical or strategic targets in depth. I think the role is nuclear. And we'll retain them till other missile groups are in place in sufficient numbers.

Brahmos on the other hand is with Army and part of Artillery Divisions. I'm willing to be corrected but I've never heard use of Prithvi missiles in any war-games or exercises.

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Balancing out the eastern sector has started happening. Both III and IV Corps had rationalization and augmentation of AOR + troop strength. Both have 3 divisions each. Plus, the new MSC. Sure, we can do better but changes in the gigantic IA takes time.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby VinodTK » 19 Jan 2016 00:11

chetak wrote:
viva kermani ‏@vivakermani 16h16 hours ago Bengaluru, Karnataka

Being childless & having no known blood relatives,Jewish prayer 4 General Jacob recited by Israel's military attaché

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^^^ ++God bless the general & the Attache

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby chetak » 19 Jan 2016 00:45

^^^^^^^

not one jewish soldier left in the IA??

or even in the other services??

I remember quite a few jewish families growing up. Sadly, don't know where any of them are today, though.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby ShauryaT » 19 Jan 2016 03:30

rohitvats wrote:I will be forced to develop armed forces which not only match my adversary but allow me to win a war - which again means more favorable ratio than simply going toe to toe. But as against BK's assertion, look at numbers from either side will tell you that India does not enjoy clear superiority in numbers.
Rohitvats: Your long post has unfortunately missed a point. BK's co-option template works, only if there is bilateral and a negotiated de-escalation, not otherwise. He calls this co-option. The only area where he has suggested unilateral action is in the Prithvi's use as strategic assets - which is viewed in classical circles as tactical assets and ought not to be close to the battlefield. Also, as you have indicated and any observer will notice, our force structures are designed to dominate and in response to Pakistan's forces. A willingness to de-escalate from both sides would be required, where India will have to make the bigger compromises and display a clear intent through deployment structures NOT capabilities. Knowing BK, I am fairly certain, he is not asking for India's hard power to be relinquished. He is asking to respond to Chin'a force capabilities not unilaterally disarm.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby Kakkaji » 19 Jan 2016 06:39

Interesting details, hence posting in full:

Coming soon: ‘Make in India’ special clothing for soldiers at the world’s highest battlefield

Army soldiers serving in the inhospitable, icy climates of Siachen glacier — the most dangerous battlefield in the world — could soon be using special jackets, trousers, boots, sleeping bags and other specialised extreme winter clothing items that are made in India. These clothes are designed to allow soldiers to operate in temperatures which go up to minus 55 degree Celsius. Since 1984, when India captured the Siachen glacier, the army has lost 869 soldiers in Siachen due to extreme climatic conditions and environmental factors.

Indian suppliers have now, for the first time, given their samples to the army for trials in five items of Siachen and Super High Altitude clothing. Soldiers deployed beyond an altitude of 14,000 feet — in Siachen, Kargil, Drass, Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim —are issued Siachen and Super High Altitude clothing which consists of 55 items.

Out of 55, 22 are one-time issue items, such as a down jacket or a sleeping bag, issued to an individual soldier and not recycled thereafter: nine of them are imported. The balance 33 items are unit issue items, such as special tents and ice axes: 11 of them are imported.

These imported items are mostly made in China :eek: , although they are supplied by around a dozen foreign firms from Switzerland, Italy, Australia, Canada, Singapore, Norway and UK.

The annual requirement of Siachen clothing for the army is around 27,000 sets. The army maintains a reserve for another year’s requirement. The average shortfall of items in Siachen clothing is between 5-10 per cent every year which is replenished from the reserves.

Besides ensuring that there is no depletion in reserve stock, once these items are produced under ‘Make in India’, the defence ministry is also concerned about other problems related to the import of Siachen clothing. The import process has a long gestation period and fluctuating foreign exchange rates further complicate it.

The biggest issue for us is the China factor. Most of these items use bird feathers as a filling. Even though the items are certified for avian flu, we can never be sure about the Chinese products. Despite the quality check, we feel that we are still taking a chance of bringing infection to India,” a defence ministry official said.

As per defence ministry sources, the impetus to promote ‘Make in India’ in Siachen clothing came from a meeting last February with the Indian Technical textile Association (ITTA), the apex body representing technical textile manufacturers in the country. Army had displayed all the items of Siachen clothing at an exhibition-cum-seminar in Delhi and asked Indian manufacturers to bid for supplying the imported items.

“This first of its kind event was supported by the Ministry of Textiles and attended by Defence Forces, DRDO, DGQA and the domestic Industry. That interaction has now started showing results and the army is moving towards both product improvement and cutting down its import bill for textiles by working with Indian companies,” Sundaraman KS, vice-chairman of ITTA and executive director of Shiva Texyarn Ltd told The Indian Express.

Besides Shiva Texyarn, National Textile Corporation, Sara Sae, Key Tent and Sabre Safety Ltd are the other Indian companies who have deposited the samples of their items with the army. After the tenders are opened, these items will undergo 90 days of trials at Siachen in peak winters. The trial report shall be available to the defence ministry by April and based on technical evaluation and lab testing by DGQA, the suppliers will be finalised.

Unlike earlier, we are not going for generic specifications, but going by user approved samples. For example, in the sleeping bag, we used to say 90 per cent down feather filling. Now we have changed it to ‘or any other suitable material’. At the end of this process, we will be able to fix new technical specifications for each item which will help Indian vendors indigenise these products,8) an army official involved with the tender process explained.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby rohitvats » 19 Jan 2016 13:12

ShauryaT wrote:Rohitvats: Your long post has unfortunately missed a point. BK's co-option template works, only if there is bilateral and a negotiated de-escalation, not otherwise. He calls this co-option.


Co-option treaties like INF happens in case of rational adversaries like NATO and WARSAW in Cold-War.

What you're saying about BK's co-option template is simply an exercise to ensure that India looses whatever leverage it has by way of conventional superiority. This co-option theory falls flat when one takes into account the unconventional warfare incessantly waged against India. In Kashmir, through bomb-blasts, 26/11 attack, Parliament attack and what have you!

Can Pakistan give surety and guarantees that it will not send terrorists into Kashmir or launch another Pathankot style attack? Or, another 26/11? Nope. You know it as well as I do that Pakistan will cease to exist as a nation if it tries to put back the genie of Islamism back into the bottle. Provided there is even an intent to do so.

By all yardsticks, such a co-option theory is a win-win situation for Pakistan. It continues to bleed India through thousands of cuts while defanging India's ability to respond to more severe than usual such attacks. And it has to spend less on defense in trying to match India which is breaking the back of that nation. The men can simply go from wearing PA Khaki to sporting the emblem of their favorite tanzeem.

The only area where he has suggested unilateral action is in the Prithvi's use as strategic assets - which is viewed in classical circles as tactical assets and ought not to be close to the battlefield.


And what do I get in return for this gesture? Nothing. Goodwill from Pakistan is not worth dog-shit.

Also, as you have indicated and any observer will notice, our force structures are designed to dominate and in response to Pakistan's forces. A willingness to de-escalate from both sides would be required, where India will have to make the bigger compromises and display a clear intent through deployment structures NOT capabilities.


First - whats with the repeated fetish for 'bigger compromises' from India to Pakistan? Has it yielded anything in past? I don't think so.

Second - How India deploys its armed forces in general, and IA in particular, is itself a capability. Capability which allows us to attain political and military objectives. Op Parakaram taught us about the deployment timeline related issues. And IA has over last 10+ years streamlined the whole process. And taken some drastic steps. CSD is all about timelines.

If India tempers with the deployment structure, we give up this capability. In a geo-political environment where a war is not expected to go beyond 10 days, I need to be such placed that entire spectrum of my firepower and war-fighting ability is brought to bear on the enemy in quickest time possible.

If I cannot do that, and altering the deployment structure means exactly that, it matters not whether I've two or five armored divisions or Strike Corps.

Knowing BK, I am fairly certain, he is not asking for India's hard power to be relinquished. He is asking to respond to Chin'a force capabilities not unilaterally disarm.


Responding to China and Pakistan are not mutually exclusive exercises. Both can be addressed.

And ways and means found to streamline the teeth-to-tail ratio of IA so more offensive capability can be generated.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby prahaar » 19 Jan 2016 13:36

Rohitvats, if we look at the wars happening around the world (Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan) all are multi-year wars. Is "war is not expected to go beyond 10 days" expected only with respect to India-Pakistan conflict or any conflict that India foresees (including with China)?

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby VinodTK » 26 Jan 2016 06:03

India leads in body armour tech but fails to provide protection to own troops
High-tech bulletproof jackets and helmets built in India are exported to 230 forces in over 100 countries.

Okay, great!

But, In Delhi there are only 250 such jackets for a force of over 90 thousand people. Why cater others when we ourselves are in deficiency?

This reveals how India leads in body armour tech but fails to protect its own troops.

Why is a bulletproof jacket important?

The strong fibers in the armour catches the bullet and absorbs and disperses the energy of the impact, so the person wearing the jacket will not feel all the impact on that particular area instead it will be widespread.

Due to its successive layers of fibres in the ballisitic layer, it resists the bullet.

The Delhi police commandos wear the traditional vest which a bit modified for the protection of the neck and abdomen. But the vests are not 'bulletproof' but 'bullet resistant'. The wearer is not protected from every bullet threat.

It is actually only the NSG commandos who wear a high-grade, level-3 Kevlar bulletproof vest that can withstand a 7.62 caliber bullet fired from a 10 m range from an AK-47.

Where is India exporting?

Indian exports to British, German, Spanish and French armies, and police forces from Japan to the US, come under the consumer list.

Vendors trying to sell it to our police forces complain of having to wait indefinitely for answers to their queries as they are confused about the evaluation system. The process gets more tiresome when price negotiations take a lot of time.

Countries prefer buying armour from India because they have time and again proved to be of excellent quality. In fact in 2014, a video showed how a Kevlar helmet protected a US Marine from any serious injury when he was shot in the head by a Taliban sniper in Afghanistan.

Government's withdrawal

A purchase of 1.86 lakh bulletproof jackets were to be made by 2012 while another 1.67 lakh were to be ordered in the second round.

However, in December 2015, government withdrew the 2009 tender to buy bulletproof jackets for the Army.

A 2.2kg vest costs anywhere between Rs 35,000 to Rs 2 lakh.

New tech introduced

A manufacturer in Kanpur claimed in 2014 of introducing a technology that reduced weight of body armour by 40% and thickness by 30%.

Shouldn't all those who put their lives at risk for our safety be saved too?

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby shaun » 28 Jan 2016 07:36

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Here's The Story Of Ashok Chakra Recipient Lance Naik Goswami Who Eliminated 11 Terrorists In 10 Days.
It's easy for us to sit at home in front of our TV screens and laud the efforts of our defence personnel. But those who actually give the supreme sacrifice never get their due.
One of such heroes is Lance Naik Mohan Nath Goswami, a Special Forces Commando of the Army who laid down his life while battling militants in Handwara in September last year. Before he died he had eliminated 10 militants in a short span of 11 days before making the supreme sacrifice in Kashmir.
"In the last 11 days, he was actively involved in three counter-terrorism operations in the Kashmir Valley in which 10 terrorists have been eliminated and one captured alive," Udhampur-based Defence Spokesman Colonel S D Goswami had said then.
For his efforts and sacrifice, he will be awarded with the Ashok Chakra today during the republic day parade.
The spokesman said Lance Naik Goswami volunteered to join the elite Para Commando outfit of the Army in 2002 and went on to gain the reputation of being one of the toughest soldiers of his unit - "no small feat in an outfit that boasts of being one among the best in the world".
The Lance Naik volunteered for all operational missions undertaken by his unit and was a part of numerous successful counter-terrorist operations in Jammu and Kashmir.
"The first operation was conducted in Khurmur, Handwara, on August 23. The operation resulted in elimination of three hardcore LeT terrorists of Pakistan origin.
"He volunteered for a second back to back operation in Rafiabad, Kashmir. The operation was conducted over two days on August 26 and 27. It witnessed a fierce gunfight that led to the elimination of three more LeT terrorists," the spokesman had said.
He said Lashkar-e-Taiba militant Sajjad Ahmad alias Abu Ubaidullah, resident of Muzzafargarh, Pakistan was captured alive in this operation. "The apprehension of a terrorist has proved to be a shot in the arm to prove Pakistan's complicity in abetting terrorism in J&K," he added.
Lance Naik Goswami once again volunteered to be part of an operation launched in the dense Hafruda forest near Kupwara. "This proved to be his last operation but not before elimination of four terrorists in a heavy gunbattle," the spokesman said.
A true soldier, Lance Naik Goswami breathed his last in action. "The mortal remains of this brave heart commando have been flown by an IAF aircraft to his home town in Bareilly. They will be taken by Army helicopter to Pant Nagar and onward to his native place where he will be cremated with full military honour," he said.
Lance Naik Goswami was a resident of Village Indira Nagar, Haldwani in Nainital. He is survived by wife and a seven-year-old daughter.

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby Karan M » 29 Jan 2016 11:57

http://www.india.com/news/india/army-di ... ls-899091/

Tip of the iceberg if VK Singh case where he was threatened is anythibg to go by

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby RKumar » 29 Jan 2016 15:49

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Here's The Story Of Ashok Chakra Recipient Lance Naik Goswami


No body should put his address in the news paper/internet .... :((

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Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014

Postby VinodTK » 30 Jan 2016 18:59

Former Indian Army chief Gen. K.V. Krishna Rao dies
General K.V. Krishna Rao, the 14th Chief of Army Staff, passed away on Saturday in the Army Hospital (Research and Referral) here, an official statement said. He was 92.

Gen. Krishna Rao was commissioned in the Indian Army on August 9, 1942 at the height of World War-II and served in Burma (now Myanmar), the North West Frontier and Baluchistan during the conflict.

During the extensive Punjab disturbances in 1947 following the partition of the sub-continent, he served in both the eastern and western parts of the state and also saw action in the 1947-48 war against Pakistan in Jammu and Kashmir.

He was a founder-instructor of the National Defence Academy during 1949-51.

He comanding a brigade in Ladakh during 1965-66, an infantry division in the Jammu region during 1969-70 and a mountain division engaged in counter-insurgency operations in Nagaland and Manipur during 1970-72.

During this period, the division also saw action in the 1971 India-Pakistan war in the eastern theatre and was instrumental in capture of the Sylhet area of what was tben East Pakistan and liberation what is now northeastern Bangladesh.

He was awarded the Param Vishist Seva Medal for displaying outstanding leadership, courage, determination and drive during the war.

General Krishna Rao commanded a corps in the Jammu region from 1974-78 and during 1975-76, also headed an expert committee on re-organisation and modernisation for the country's future defence.

He later served as the deputy chief of army staff during 1978-79 and on promtion, went on to head the Western Command during 1979-81.

General Krishna Rao was appointed the army chief in June 1981 and served till July 1983. He was also Chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee, the highest appointment in the armed forces from March 1982 to July 1983.

From June 1984 to July 1989, General Krishna Rao was the governor of Nagaland, Manipur and Tripura. He was also the Governor of Mizoram from June 1988 and March to July 1989. General Krishna Rao was appointed the governor of Jammu and Kashmir during 1989-90.

When a proxy war in Jammu and Kashmir and reached its peak, he was reappointed the governor and served rom March 1993 to May 1998. In this capacity, he was instrumental in restoring peace and democracy in the insurgency-riven state.

He was Colonel of the Mahar Regiment during 1968-83. General Krishna Rao was conferred honorary D.Litts by the Andhra and Telugu universities, and a honorary doctorate in law by Sri Venkateswara University.

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar and the Indian Army chief, General Dalbir Singh, have condoled Gen. Krishna Rao's death.

Parrikar remembered the veteran's contribution in the 1971 war.

"The country has lost one of our best known military leaders. He was a visionary who led ably, inspired a generation of soldiers and initiated modernisation of the Indian Army in the early 1980s. His contribution in the 1971 war and maintaining the unity and integrity of the country shall always be remembered," the defence minister said.


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