Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2016

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Zardari and Kiyani had a shia-shia thingie going on!
I don't know the sub-sect of their former chief justice, but these three guys sucked pakistan pretty nicely.
Geelani made the headlines for his little kleptomanias, but one hears that 10 percenti, Kiyani and CJ were the real deal!
The former CJ is now striving to protect his ill gotten gains and legacy by joining politics.
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X Posted from the Islamism thread.

The Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday is marred by Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden violence.

In Saudi Arabia, a Shia Mosque is attacked:

Shia mosque in Saudi Arabia hit by gun and bomb attack

Meanwhile in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan , also on Mohammaddenism’s Friday Sabbath, an IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan is demonstrated at a Mosque in Zhob, Balochistan:

Four injured as suicide bomber attacks mosque in Balochistan
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Is Moharrum around corner?
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Debunking the ‘founders’ of Two-Nation Theory
Naa Raped Ammi Ki Talash hai: Asli Abbu Ki Talash Hai: Paki Na Jaane Kiss Harami Ki Awlad hai
From Muhammad Bin Qasim to Mahmud Ghaznavi, we have named the foreign invaders as the founders of this theory.One such ‘historian’, Dr Safdar Mahmud, wrote last year that Ghauri was in fact the founder of Pakistan.Debunking this vile claim, Dr Mubarak Ali wrote, “It is customary to be proud of our invaders such as Muhammad Bin Qasim, Mahmoud of Ghazna and Muhammad Ghori and to denounce other invaders who looted our country from time to time. In fact, all these invaders were mass murderers and should be treated as criminals in history.”Many such historians trace the spiritual link of Two-Nation Theory to the likes of Sheikh Ahmed Sirhindi and Shah Wali Ullah. In our textbooks, the foundation of the idea of two different nations has been credited to Sir Syed Ahmed Khan.When reading through the original text from these personalities, one comes to conclusion that their ideologies were as contradictory and paradoxical as the theory itself.Ahmed Sirhindi was the founder of ‘Wahdatul shahood’, which was considered ‘bid’at’ by most of the Muslim theologians. He was against the Mughal’s policy of ‘sulah-e-kul’ and considered it a hurdle in the way of the spread of Islam. Jahangir arrested Sheikh Ahmed Sirhindi after he was informed of Sheikh’s activities.“Jahangir came to know of a man in Sirhind, who had laid the web of deception for the simple and devoted people. He had appointed his khalifas to various areas from where they are misleading people,” Tuzk-e-Jahangiri, page 360.Sibte Hasan writes in ‘Hindustan Mein Tehzeeb Ka Irtiqa’ that Sheikh Sirhindi considered philosophy as heresy and saw philosophers as idiots. Hassan’s claim can be verified from Sheikh’s letters. He wrote to one of his disciples, “When Jesus invited Plato (the chief of these idiots) to accept his prophethood, his reply was that they were enlightened people and they didn’t feel the need of someone who wanted to enlighten them.” Interestingly, Plato died 348 years before Jesus was born.Sheikh Ahmed Sirhindi had sectarian inclinations as well, as he wrote Radd-i-Rawafiz or ‘Refutation of Shia-ism’. The modern fatwas against Shias are derived mostly from his work.If the founder of Two-Nation Theory is Sheikh Ahmed Sirhindi, who has apostatised Shias, where do we stand?Shah Wali Ullah’s character and ideology, again, are inconsistent to say the least. Shah Wali Ullah invited Ahmed Shah Abdali to invade the subcontinent, knowing that the previous foreign invasion by Nader Shah resulted in him looting and plundering the wealth of Mughal Empire.
“God forbid, your act must not be like that of Nader Shah who destroyed Muslims but left Marathas as they were before,” Shah Wali Ullah wrote to Abdali. (Shah Wali Ullah Dehalvi Ke Siyasi Maktoob by )Describing the result of his invasion, Dr Mubarak Ali writes, “Although Abdali defeated the Marathas in 1761, he further weakened the Mughal emperor and the nobility by plundering their wealth. The idea of reviving power and stability using foreign help failed; so no lesson can be learned from this dismal episode.”An estimate tells that 30-120 million rupees were looted by Ahmed Shah Abdali. He married the younger daughter of Mughal Emperor Muhammad Shah by force. (Shah Wali Ullah was faced with death threats when he translated Quran into Persian and he had to leave Delhi due to fatwas of apostasy.
His son, Shah Abdul Aziz decreed in favour of working for British and be loyal to them but he advised the Muslims must not have any links to them culturally. He even said that it was advisable to wash the utensils used by British before utilising them. Like Sheikh Ahmed Sirhindi, Shah Wali Ullah also apostatised Shias.“A thorough study of lzatal-Khifa and Qurratal-Ainain and the letters of Wali Ullah in Kalimaat-e-Tayyabaat will reveal that Wali Ullah called the Shias as zindiq, nawabit and mubtadi (heretics and innovators in religion), as did Sheikh Ahmad of Sirhind,” writes Khaled Ahmed in Sectarian Wars. (Page 15)Likewise, Wali Ullah’s son, Shah Abdul Aziz wrote ‘Tuhfa Ithna Ashariya’, a comprehensive anti-Shia book.The founder of Pakistan Muhammad Ali Jinnah is well known to be a Shia himself. If we accept Wali Ullah and Sheikh Ahmed as the founders of Two-Nation Theory, we are bound to ‘otherise’ Jinnah, who, in the eyes of the former, was not a Muslim.Syed Ahmed of Bareli and Shah Ismail are also glorified as the freedom fighters who lost their lives, waging jihad against infidels.These personalities, instead of fighting against British, who were geographically near to them and in fact were invaders, went all the way up north to fight against Sikhs and their fellow Muslims.Shah Ismail, when he started lectures on jihad in Calcutta, describing the ‘oppression’ of Muslims by Sikh rulers, was asked the reason behind not waging jihad against the British rulers.“It’s not obligatory to wage jihad against them because Muslims are subjects of British rulers and they are able to live freely under their rule. In case of a foreign attack, it is the responsibility of Muslims to fight for their government,” Shah Ismail responded.
The freedom struggle which led the creation of Pakistan was directed against the British rule. Can we ask how Shah Ismail is a hero of freedom movement when he decreed that there was no jihad against the British?Ismail was not alone in praising the British government and asking his followers to submit themselves to the ruler. Mian Nazir Hussain Dehalvi, one of the leading Ahle Hadith scholars, was praised by British rulers for his ‘services’.To avoid any hurdles on his way to Hajj, Nazir approached Commissioner Delhi for a letter, who wrote, “Maulvi Nazir Hussain is a leading scholar in Delhi, who in difficult times proved his loyalty to British Empire and on his pilgrimage to Mecca, I hope that any British Officer whose help or protection he may need, will be given to him, as he fully deserves it”. (
Sir Syed Ahmed Khan has been frequently placed next to Jinnah and Iqbal as the founder of Pakistan in our textbooks. Altaf Hussain Hali, in Hayat-e-Javed, a biography of Sir Syed Ahmed Khan, writes, “Sir Syed Ahmed Khan prayed fervently for Queen Victoria in one of his manajaat, thanking God for her.)Although Sir Syed Ahmed Khan is said to be the founder of the ideology of Pakistan i.e., Hindus and Muslims are two different nations, but Muslims themselves refused to accept him as one of them. All Muslim scholars from subcontinent and Arab unitedly decreed a fatwa of apostasy against him. Sir Syed Ahmed Khan writes in ‘Asbab-i-Baghawat-e-Hind’ that Shah Ismail Shaheed’s fight against Sikhs was actually a jihad. ( The same Sir Syed Ahmed Khan had ardently condemned the 1857 war of independence against British, terming it a mutiny.His contempt for those who fought in the 1857 war was so great that he called one such fighter a ‘********’. (H)Under such circumstances, when the alleged ‘founders’ of Two-Nation Theory either apostatised other Muslims, waged selective jihads to protect the interests of British rulers, wrote extensively in their favour, one can totally expect the nation to be a confused crowd.It is about time historians debunked more of such characters who have falsely been accredited as the founders of this country and how negatively they influenced their followers.
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Pakis are trying to salvage some H&D in having been forced to become tour operators in facilitating the hunting of Bustards by the gulf sheikhs.

Commentators in the talk shows have said: Yeh ek achcha kadam hai. yeh parinde baahar ke mulk se aate hain sardiyoon mein aur kuch arse baad waapas chale jaate hain. Is darmiyaan agar unka yahaa shikhar hota hai toh isme hamaara koi nuksaan nahin hai kyon ki yeh parinde pakistani nahi hain. :rotfl: :rotfl:

Thanks to the two nation theory we are so blessed to be free of these shameless parasites.
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Pathankot terror attack disturbed India-Pakistan talks, Nawaz Sharif says
LAHORE: Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Saturday said the terror attack on an Indian Air Force base in Punjab's Pathankot town disturbed the peace process between New Delhi and Islamabad, a media report said.

Sharif, who admitted that matters between the two countries were moving in the right direction, regretted that the January 2 terror strike disturbed the negotiation process, Radio Pakistan reported.

Following the attacks, Indian and Pakistani governments postponed scheduled diplomatic talks till the end of January.

Six terrorists of the now-outlawed Jaish-e-Muhammed (JeM) group stormed the airbase in Pathankot and killed seven security personnel. They too were killed by Indian security forces.

India sought prompt action against the perpetrators of the attack, sharing "actionable" evidence against Jaish chief Masood Azhar with the Pakistan government. There were reports that Azhar was detained by the security forces. Sharif then held a high level meeting with security agencies and said a thorough probe be carried out, assuring India that Islamabad was seriously investigating the case and will not hesitate to act if anyone was found guilty.
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Peregrine wrote:Finance ministry delays release of $300 million for Gwadar pipeline
ISLAMABAD: The Ministry of Finance appears to have spent the entire cess collection from gas consumers to bridge the budget deficit and is reluctant to provide $300 million to the petroleum ministry for executing the $2 billion Gwadar liquefied natural gas (LNG) pipeline project, an official says.
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So, the officials in the so-called Ministry Of Finance (s/b named Ministry Of Embezzlement :mrgreen: ) have violated one of the cardinal principles of Fund Accounting, that earmarked funds should be used exclusively for the purpose it is set aside for (in this case, it was designated for the (LNG pipeline project) -Robbing Ali to pay Rasool as the saying goes !
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if anyone was found guilty.
i.e., pigs fly. :rotfl:
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.....when pigs fly and plant paki flag on Lal Qila
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"Rent Boy " (AKA Pakistan) Still Needed For Afghan Operation - US General
US general seeks Pakistan’s help to defeat Afghan terrorists
WASHINGTON: It is important to ‘enlist’ Pakistan for defeating terrorists in Afghanistan, says a senior US general nominated to head US and Nato troops in that country.
A transcript released on Friday also cites Lt Gen John William Nicholson as telling the US Senate Armed Services Committee that Pakistan’s military operations in Fata were “critical to defeating insurgency”.
The general appeared before the committee on Thursday for his confirmation hearing and a positive response from both Republican and Democratic lawmakers indicated that he would be promoted to the rank of a four-star general and confirmed.
In a written response to the questions sent to him before the hearing, Gen Nicholson acknowledged that Pakistan’s ongoing counter-terrorism operations in Fata had reduced the militants’ ability to use Pakistani territory as a safe haven for terrorism...
Pakistan must take persistent action against the Taliban, particularly the Haqqani Network,... :((
Gen Nicholson said that if confirmed, he would work to improve the capacity to track and disrupt terrorist financing originating in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the Gulf states. ( is he going to get the necessary cooperation )
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The best proof of lack of American seriousness is that Haqqani, a CIA-funded "ass-et" has not been "neutralized" all these years.
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Pakis Still Want To Play "Honest Broker" In Spite Of Being Rejected By Both Parties :mrgreen:
6 things Saudi Arabia and Iran have in common :roll:
By Noman Ansari- Express Tribune
Both of them, though agree on one point : that the Pakis cannot be "trusted" to assume leadership of the Ummah World :D !
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Peregrine wrote:Finance ministry delays release of $300 million for Gwadar pipeline
ISLAMABAD: The Ministry of Finance appears to have spent the entire cess collection from gas consumers to bridge the budget deficit and is reluctant to provide $300 million to the petroleum ministry for executing the $2 billion Gwadar liquefied natural gas (LNG) pipeline project, an official says.
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So, the officials in the so-called Ministry Of Finance (s/b named Ministry Of Embezzlement :mrgreen: ) have violated one of the cardinal principles of Fund Accounting, that earmarked funds should be used exclusively for the purpose it is set aside for (in this case, it was designated for the (LNG pipeline project) -Robbing Ali to pay Rasool as the saying goes !
Falijee :

No. sir. It is Robbing United States of America to Pay the Cwapistani Terrorists to carry out Terrorist Attacks on India that is how the saying goes!
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Terror sanctuaries in Pakistan a big challenge : US

WASHINGTON: President Barack Obama’s choice to take command of the coalition and US forces in Afghanistan told senators on Thursday that Afghan forces need an improvement in some capabilities but have performed well in battle.

Army Lt Gen John W Mick Nicholson Jr appeared before the Senate Armed Services Committee, which is considering his nomination to succeed Army Gen John F Campbell as commander of the Operation Resolute Support and US Forces Afghanistan.

In his statement, the general said he anticipates working closely with Pakistani military officials, noting that the Taliban historically have taken refuge in the provinces of western Pakistan. “It’s a sanctuary that our enemies — in particular the Haqqani network — have enjoyed inside Pakistan,” he said, adding that this sanctuary is a big challenge but the US will not sit back and will adopt aggressive style to protect Afghanistan. Really! US going after Cwapistan! :shock:

The Pakistani military has made recent progress, but that has blown hot and cold, the general said. Nicholson cited different levels of effort and different offensives in parts of the tribal areas inside Pakistan. “I note that the Pakistanis have also suffered significant casualties in the tens of thousands in terms of their security forces and their civilians — most recently, these horrendous attacks on schools that have occurred inside Pakistan,” he said.

“Yet at the same time, we’ve not been satisfied that there’s adequate pressure put on the Haqqanis,” he continued. “The recent operations in northern Waziristan have helped, as well as stationing of additional regular army soldiers in tribal areas have helped. Some of this has pushed some fighters into Afghanistan.”

In his testimony, the general stressed the need for a long-term, capabilities-based US presence in Afghanistan and said American security aid to the nation is rightly concentrated on counter terrorism and the “train, advise and assist” missions.

Nicholson praised the fighting capabilities of Afghan soldiers. “They continue to fight, and they work hard to roll back any Taliban gains,” he said.

Afghan forces have some shortcomings in areas such as intelligence collection, assessment and dissemination and Afghan air support — both fixed-wing and helicopter, he said. “The growth of mid-level leaders at the small-unit level, where tactics matter and where we combine arms, is extremely important,” Nicholson said.About 9,800 US service members are now in Afghanistan. This is due to drop to 5,500 by the end of the year.
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Tsunami of money' from Saudi Arabia funding 24,000 madrassas in Pakistan- US Senator
Washington: About 24,000 'madrassas' in Pakistan are funded by Saudi Arabia which has unleashed a "tsunami of money" to "export intolerance", a top American senator has said adding that the US needs to end its effective acquiescence to the Saudi sponsorship of radical Islamism.
IMO, Massa is now helpless; it needs Paki help to "get out of Afghanistan", without getting more "body bags" ; it cannot "annoy" Saudi Arabia because of indirect Saudi control of Amreekhan economy and it's corresponding clout to mold public opinion through their "money diplomacy" and the corrupt American political process !
Senator Chris Murphy said Pakistan is the best example of where money coming from Saudi Arabia is funnelled to religious schools that nurture hatred and terrorism.
"In 1956, there were 244 madrassas in Pakistan. Today, there are 24,000. These schools are multiplying all over the globe. These schools, by and large, don't teach violence. They aren't the minor leagues for al-Qaeda or ISIS. But they do teach a version of Islam that leads very nicely into an anti-Shia, anti-Western militancy.
(not to mention the long term project of converting "everyone" to Dar-ul-Islam, as dictated by the Book)
"Those 24,000 religious schools in Pakistan thousands of them are funded with money that originates in Saudi Arabia," Murphy said in an address yesterday to the Council on Foreign Relations, a top American think-tank.
(would not be "surprised" if this prestigious institution is one of the recipients of Saudi largesse)
According to some estimates, since the 1960s, the Saudis have funnelled over USD 100 billion into funding schools and mosques all over the world with the mission of spreading puritanical Wahhabi Islam.
As a point of comparison, researchers estimate that the former Soviet Union spent about USD 7 billion exporting its communist ideology from 1920-1991.
(wow! that is a lot of US moolah!)
Murphy demanded that Congress should not sign off on any more US military sales to Saudi Arabia..
(then how is the US expected to "bring back" the Saudi petro dollars back to US :roll:, the only way is to sell them all sorts of "useless" military and consumer items :mrgreen: )
Murphy said adding that leaders of both Democratic and Republican parties should avoid the extremes of this debate, and enter into a real conversation about how America can help the moderate voices within Islam win out over those who sow seeds of extremism.(Is there a moderate "Malsi") :roll:
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A gay kiss in China led to this in Pakistan
By Tim Craig- Washington Post
Posting In Full As One More Evidence of Press Censorship In Pakiland
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — As in many Islamic countries, it’s common to see young men walking down the streets here in Pakistan holding hands or warmly greeting each other with a hug. But on Friday, the local publisher of the International New York Times decided a photograph of a man in China giving his boyfriend a kiss on the cheek was too graphic for Pakistani readers.
For the second time this month, Pakistan’s Express Tribune, which partners with and publishes the international edition of the New York Times locally, censored a front-page article or photograph. Instead of running the photograph, New York Times subscribers in Pakistan woke up to find a huge blank space on their paper.
“This picture was removed by our publishing alliance in Pakistan,” a caption stated below the 8-inch by 12-inch blank space. “The International New York Times and its editorial staff had no role in its removal.”
The photograph was supposed to accompany a Times story, written by Edward Wong and Vanessa Piao, about a first-of-its kind lawsuit in China challenging that country’s prohibition on same-sex marriage.
[The love story behind China's first gay marriage case]
The story was published in Pakistan, but the photograph showing one of the plaintiffs with his arm on his boyfriend's shoulder while giving him a kiss was removed.
Kamal Siddiqi, editor of the Express Tribune, said his newspaper has a long-standing agreement with the New York Times that it can refuse to publish articles or photographs that “may cause problems locally.”
“You will not see a picture in Pakistan of men kissing,” Siddiqi said. “In fact, you will not see a picture of anyone kissing.” ( and yet, Pakistan has consistently ranked No. 1 in google search for animal sex, gay sex etc :mrgreen: )
Earlier this month, the Express Tribune censored a New York Times article about attacks on progressive bloggers in Bangladesh. According to New York Times Public Editor Margaret Sullivan, the local printer decided readers may have found some quotes in the article blasphemous.
In 2014, the Express Tribune also censored a New York Times article about whether Pakistani intelligence officials may have known about Osama bin Laden’s whereabouts before U.S. forces killed him in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in 2011.
“Even in the digital age, blank newspaper pages are a disturbing symbol of the lack of free expression in many parts of the world,” Sullivan wrote.
In an email to a New York Times representative on Friday, Siddiqi defended his actions.
He noted Islamist militants and others have repeatedly targeted Pakistani journalists suspected of “pursuing a Western agenda,” including an attack in 2014 that killed three Express-News journalists in Karachi.
“I am as much opposed to the censorship as you all are,” Siddiqi wrote in the email, a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Post. “However, as editor of the Express Tribune, which has over 200 staffers and brings out editions in Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad and Peshawar, I am also mindful of the danger and the lives we can put at risk if we decide to print some of these articles."
The security of Pakistani’s dogged journalist community is a major concern; at least 71 of its members have been killed here since 2001, according to the Pakistan Press Foundation. And in the past, violent mobs have formed to protest articles, cartoons or photographs that were interpreted as being an insult against Islam.
With Pakistan's government generally unable or unwilling to protect journalists from such fallout, Siddiqi said, many newspapers and television stations now resort to "self-censorship" to avoid attacks or blasphemy charges, which are punishable by death.[/quote]
"I wish we could do a fraction of the work that the NYT does and we hold it as the standard to aspire towards," Siddiqi wrote. "But please understand that the on-ground reality is very different for us."
Despite being governed by a constitution that is based on Islamic law, Pakistan is generally known for being less rigid about homosexuality than other Muslim-dominated societies, including Iran and Saudi Arabia.
In 2011, Pakistan’s Supreme Court officially recognized the country’s transgender population, establishing a legally recognized “third gender” that now has the right to vote.
Homosexuality is still considered a crime here, but legal analysts say prosecutions for such offenses are rare.
In recent years, the BBC and other media outlets have aired stories about the country's gay communities in major cities such as Karachi and Lahore.
Some gay couples are now even living together, the BBC reported. Because unmarried young men rarely interact with women, and are known to be affectionate with each, it's easy for gay couples to hide their sexuality, the BBC noted.
And Pakistani media outlets do at times cover issues related to homosexuality. Even as the Express Tribune censored the New York Times photo of the Chinese couple, it published a story in its local editions on Friday noting that three prominent Bollywood actors had agreed to play gay characters in an upcoming film.
Still, a robust public debate about gay rights or same-sex marriage is unlikely to occur in Pakistan anytime soon.
In March, Pakistan joined 42 other nations at the United Nations in voting against granting benefits to same-sex couples who work for the world body. In 2014, Pakistan was one of just 14 nations to oppose a U.N. resolution expressing “grave concern” over the rights of gay, lesbian and transgender people around the globe.
In June, two Pakistani men near the western city of Quetta were arrested after rumors circulated that they had gotten married in a wedding ceremony. The men faced up to life in prison.
But they argued the wedding had been a joke, and all chargers were later dropped, according to a local journalist familiar with the matter.
After this article, hope that the Wapo reporter does not receive any special treatment from the reps of the Deep State :twisted:
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US Congressman, Rep Rohrabacher : Pakistan Using "US Weapons Against Own People" By By Zachary Leshin | December 17, 2015
(CNSNews.com) – Members of Congress expressed their concerns that the F-16 military jets and other weapons the U.S. provides to Pakistan are being used “against their own people” in Baluchistan during a hearing on Capitol Hill Wednesday.
The hearing on the future of U.S.-Pakistan relations was held by the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
After Richard Olson, the State Department's special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, stated that “with all the challenges of the relationship, I think it's most important for the U.S. to be engaged still and to build a partnership with Pakistan,” Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) responded:
“The fact is that Pakistan has, from its very beginning, been plagued with corruption and oppression by its own government. The brutality and corruption in Pakistan was so bad that early on in 1971, the people of Bangladesh couldn’t take it anymore.[/quote]
Unfortunately, the US "needs Pak help" to get out of Afghanistan ASAP, therefore, the congressman is "barking up the wrong tree" :mrgreen:
“I see similar type of sentiments with the situation arising with the people of Baluchistan.
Rohrabacher has long been an advocate for the people of Baluchistan, having introduced a resolution in 2012 supporting its independence.“If we were thwarted in trying to bring to justice Osama bin Laden, it would have been because the Pakistanis were using American jets to shoot our people down,
“We calculated on that. That was not out of the realm of possibility. And the fact that that is the reality of it and we end up giving them billions of dollars of military equipment, no wonder they don't respect us,” Rohrabacher continued.
Earlier in the hearing, Poe said: “I want to be very specific in what I am concerned about, and that is, the sale of American fighter jets to Pakistan or the giving of American fighter jets to Pakistan through military aid. That military aid is then used in the United States to buy those jets.
Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX). (AP photo)
“And I use the example of Osama bin Laden; Pakistanis and their military hid him out and the United States didn't tell Pakistan we were going after him because they'd have moved him.
“We sent helicopters over there, the raid was successful and Pakistan scrambles two American made F-16s to intercept the helicopters, the Americans were able to get away and there could have been a confrontation,” said Poe.
The "violation" of their so called so-virginity :mrgreen:
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DONALD TRUMP attacks Hillary Clinton’s Muslim Brotherhood-linked right-hand woman, Huma Abedin
Unfortunately, he hasn’t yet attacked her for Islamic terrorism-connections, but hopefully he will. Below are several links that explain in detail why having Huma Abedin anywhere near the White House would be like inviting in the terrorism-linked Muslim Brotherhood, which has been banned in Egypt and the UAE.
UK Daily Mail Donald Trump charged Wednesday that a sexually ‘deviant’ former congressman who is married to Hillary Clinton‘s closest aide has likely seen the contents of classified emails that passed through the former secretary of state’s private home-brew server.
Huma Abedin, the Pakistani-American chief of staff to Clinton, was wed in 2010 to then-Congressman Anthony Weiner, the Democrat whose star fell to earth amid lewd sexting scandals.(A Paki sympathizer in Hillary's inner circle :shock: )
Abedin sat on the board (below) of the MSA (Muslim Student Association) a main front group for the Muslim Brotherhood. It was established from Saudi-backed efforts to establish Islamic organizations internationally in the 1960s, for the purpose of spreading its Wahhabist ideology across the globe.
Republicans in Washington are furious with Clinton for destroying tens of thousands of emails dating from her time in office, and for including classified information in an unknown number of others.
Trump told DailyMail.com during a wide-ranging interview in his New York City Office that ‘the person seeing her emails more than anybody else is Huma. And who’s Huma married to? The worst deviant in the United States of America, right? Weiner!’
Abedin holds a security clearance as a former State Department deputy chief of staff, of the kind that would typically come with detailed guidance on what kind of information must be kept secret from family members, including spouses. :roll: (there is a good chance that she may have been a "conduit" between the Saudis and the Clintons )
There is no evidence that Weiner himself has been made privy to sensitive or classified information, but such a lapse in data security would create a new headache for Clinton, who is gamely keeping her presidential candidacy afloat while investigations swirl around her.(the marriage of an Islamist to a Jew could be "good cover" )
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Anujan wrote: ...

The best way to deal with pakis is to have such a big economy and industrial base that their statements look like dogs barking at cars.
Speaking as a friend and admirer of actual dog-kind, let's get rid of that metaphor for Pakis, it is an insult to dogs.

It is also a harmful way to look at Pakistan, as it has become a very comforting metaphor with which we rationalize our complacency and feel superior at the same time: haha, look at those bleddy dogs, running on the road, they are so scrawny and poor, and don't even have a car to drive around in.

But SDRE Indians are not cars, they are people. People who can't all be riding around in cars all the time, sometimes they have to get down and enjoy the good solid ground, or just toil on it. The barking dogs then become dangerous and need to be shown their place, by sheer intimidation or a well-placed kick to the leader of the pack if required.
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Vipul wrote:Pakis are trying to salvage some H&D in having been forced to become tour operators in facilitating the hunting of Bustards by the gulf sheikhs.

Commentators in the talk shows have said: Yeh ek achcha kadam hai. yeh parinde baahar ke mulk se aate hain sardiyoon mein aur kuch arse baad waapas chale jaate hain. Is darmiyaan agar unka yahaa shikhar hota hai toh isme hamaara koi nuksaan nahin hai kyon ki yeh parinde pakistani nahi hain. :rotfl: :rotfl:

Thanks to the two nation theory we are so blessed to be free of these shameless parasites.
With hat-tip to Jhujhar, may I say,

"Doubara b astards kahte hain Houbara bustards ko na-paki"

Arz hai.
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Falijee wrote:
Peregrine wrote:Peregrine-ji:
So, the officials in the so-called Ministry Of Finance (s/b named Ministry Of Embezzlement :mrgreen: ) have violated one of the cardinal principles of Fund Accounting, that earmarked funds should be used exclusively for the purpose it is set aside for (in this case, it was designated for the (LNG pipeline project) -Robbing Ali to pay Rasool as the saying goes !
In Poaakonomoical terms it is known as Financial Polygamy or Nikahkhatabatah. One Same number, amount can be assigned assigned, used , attached to maximum 5 different programmes to achieve instant "Finan' for both parties depending on the day/night/waqt allocated per sunnah. Its not robbing Ali for Rasool but All-in forRasool. Ali does not matter.
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The Political Assassination of Baloch Leader Dr. Manan
The killing of a pro-independent Balochistan leader, Dr. Manan, on Saturday by the Pakistani security forces in Mastung is a great setback for establishing peace in volatile Balochistan. Dr. Manan was the secretary general of the Baloch National Movement (BNM), a political party that opposes Balochistan's [what it bills as 'forceful'] annexation with Pakistan and calls for a free homeland for the Baloch people
The Chinese are making robust investments in Balochistan under the multi-billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) in order to "develop" the port in Gwadar. Meanwhile, they asserted their anguish toward the Pakistanis over the slow pace of reaching consensus on the controversial project.(they also want the Pakis to decide the constitutional status of G&B )
n order to avoid embarrassment in front of the Chinese over their failure to tackle the decade-long insurgency in Balochistan, the Pakistani authorities have accelerated military operations against the Baloch leaders who oppose these construction projects in Balochistan...
Dr. Manan,48, was killed a day after a meeting between Sanaullah Zehri, the pro-Islamabad chief minister of Balochistan and Lieutenant General Amir Riaz, the highest official of the Pakistan army designated in Balochistan. Both of them vowed to "chase the terrorists". The chief minister urged the security forces to work as a team and said, "I'll be your captain." The next day, the vocal Baloch leader was murdered in what the officials describe as an 'operation against the terrorists'.
( in East Pakistan, they were termed as "miscreants" )
Dr. Manan's party chairman, Ghulam Mohammad Baloch, was also killed after being whisked away by Pakistani security personnel, as alleged by the eyewitnesses. When his mutilated dead body was found, the New York Times reported that the Baloch leader had "played a role in helping to secure the release of John Solecki, the kidnapped United Nations official."
From the conversations I had with him, I learned that the IDP crisis in Balochistan was far worse than it had been reported in the Pakistani media. In Jaffarabad district, I met with several children whose kidneys had become dysfunctional because of the contaminated water they had drunk
If the Pakistani government intends to pave the way for China's economic development by killing Baloch political activists, this is a deeply disconcerting policy. This will further alert the Baloch about what the future holds for them if the Chinese increase their control over Gwadar. Attaining economic development at the cost of the local critics' blood is an almost unachievable goal. /quote]
Dr. Manan's assassination will deepen the Baloch sense of alienation. He was a liberal political leader who vocally opposed the activities of religious jihadi groups (such as Jamaat ud Dawa of internationally-designated terrorist Hafiz Saeed) operating in Balochistan under the disguise of humanitarian relief. Surprisingly, Balochistan's Home Minister has described Dr. Manan's killing as a 'major breakthrough'. That is actually not a breakthrough for the government. Such killings will mostly benefit the Baloch separatists in the long run because each leader killed adds a new chapter to the Baloch narrative of oppression.
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"Anosognosia is a condition in which a person who suffers from a disability seems unaware of or denies the existence of his or her disability."

-- complicated word for Pakistaniyat.
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Necessary Watch ,JEM, LET,JUD all part of Government policy to fight India

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Defusing tensions: Maleeha acted as secret messenger of Kayani
Kayani" Janani

Pakistan’s current envoy to the UN Maleeha Lodhi apparently acted as an informal messenger between the Obama administration and former army chief Gen Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, some emails of Hillary Clinton indicate.But the entire message delivered by Maleeha, who has also served on the same deputation in the US and Britainb, on behalf of Kayani to the US State Department has been edited out.“I got a call from Maleeha Lodhi, who is in London. She gave a message from Kayani,” Vali Nasr, who was then a senior adviser in the Office of the Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, wrote on January 21, 2011.The readout of Kayani’s message through Maleeha running into two paragraphs was then sent to Hillary the same day. She asked this message to be printed on January 30 – three days after Raymond Davis was arrested on charges of killing two men in Lahore. The incident had resulted in a crisis in the US-Pak relationship.“Please print,” Hillary wrote to her aide Lauren C Jiloty on the email with the subject “latest from Pakistan on Kayani 3.0”.The emails are being released in phases on the directions of a US court. While most of the portions of the email related to Pakistan have been heavily redacted, it does contain in full the text of the phone call between Clinton and Pakistan’s then foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar
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The Sub-Continental Bloodbath: After Vilifying "Bacha Khan" For Over 50 Years Paki Society Now Singing Paeans For "Frontier Gandhi" :roll:
The irony of the latest atrocity at Bacha Khan University (BKU), Charsadda, is that it was enacted on the death anniversary (Jan 20) of Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan, popularly known as Bacha Khan. Every year, the day is commemorated to honour the undisputed apostle of peace, as well as his equally illustrious son, Wali Khan, who passed away on Jan 26, 2006.
In a peace conference, well-known scholars and experts from across Pakistan and Afghanistan( India not invited !) were to deliver their papers on peace. A Pashto mushaira was meant to expound on Bacha Khan’s universal philosophy of love and tolerance.
His detractors wrongly paint him as a blind follower of Gandhi ... (and by extension Pro India and therefore anti- Paki !)
While Bacha Khan was struggling to humanise the violent tribal Pakhtuns into law-abiding citizens with his vision of peace and education, his mission was aborted by the British who considered the Pakhtuns unworthy of modern education.
:roll:
Bacha Khan spent more time in prison (37 years) than Nelson Mendala, both during the British rule and the latter day Pakistani governments for demanding equal rights for his people. Mahatma Gandhi held Bacha Khan in high esteem. During his visit to Sadaryaab, the headquarters of Khudai Khidmatgars in Charsadda, Gandhi is quoted as telling the audience “Bacha Khan and Khudai Khidm-atgars deserve more credit than me and Congress, as Hindus belong to a comparatively non- martial race and taming the most violent people into peace-loving and law-abiding citizens was an incomparable achievement!”
Bacha Khan and Gandhi’s desire for a prosperous and peaceful subcontinent did not materialise as the region was destined for partition. History is witness that the erstwhile NWFP witnessed very few incidents of communal violence as compared to Punjab and Bengal that were soaked in blood and unspeakable horror as the two nations celebrated the dawn of freedom.
Bacha Khan’s prophetic words at Torkham, in 1980, at the beginning of the Afghan jihad, still ring loud and clear. He returned after three decades of self-exile from Afghanistan. The Soviets had spurned his efforts to roll back the invading Red Army, which Bacha Khan termed a recipe for disaster for the entire region during his visit to the Kremlin to meet Brezhnev.
His bewildered audience listened to his prophecy: “The blood that is now being shed in the name of religion shall soon engulf the entire subcontinent,” said the clairvoyant Pakhtun statesman, the bête noire of the Pakistani state for his secular ideals. “I can see rivers of blood flowing across Pakistan and when it reaches India it would be catastrophic for the entire region,” he added.
The non-state actors of the most virulent ideology is a product of a mostly Anglo-American policy having destabilised the world further through the thoughtless invasion of Iraq ( no mention of the Paki and Saudi "assistance " to Anglo-American agenda ) :roll: and the sponsoring of the subsequent violent uprising against previously secular Arab states, metamorphosing into a bigger evil, the militant Islamic State group, more lethal compared to their Taliban predecessors.
Bacha Khan’s birthplace, Charsadda, was also the fountain head of the Gandhara civilisation... (followers of Masli claiming credit for this !)[/quote]
The state of Pakistan has failed the Pakhtun nation once again.
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Those who were found to be inconvenient to the State or even suspicious were branded as anti-Islam as it happened to Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan.

An old piece of news item that I read and preserved
Dr Minhajul Hasan, a professor of history at the University of Peshawar, recounted how a “trained jihadi” youth explained while appearing in his Master of Arts oral examination that he and his ilk were supposed to damn both Ghaffar Khan and Wali Khan as apostates and enemies of Pakistan. Later, to his surprise, he discovered they were visionary men of peace and not the demons he had been led to believe.
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Punjab govt bans Tablighi Jamat stay, preaching in Universities

Remains to be seen whether this appears to be a strategic shift by Pak, or one of their "regular window dressing" to give an appearance of being "serious about tackling this now monster problem of terrorism", which is now engulfing all sectors of their society (economic, religious, political , cultural) :mrgreen:
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Strategic shift my foot. Pakis are not about to change in any way, shape or form -- just another act in the Paki Enlightened Moderation Drama that has been going on for more than a decade. pakis cannot be more radicalized than they already are, and where are the little pakis going to go study other than in a madrassah?

BTW, Tablighi Jamaat is nicely established in the USA -- the paki who shot all those people in SanBernadino attended a Tablighi Jamaat mosque, and all of the Jamaatis were instrumental in pushing the guy to commit violence, though they hid behind the islamist "civil right" group CAIR's lawyers promptly after the event.
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Pakistanis Now Finding It Hard To Oversees Jobs, specially in Middle East :mrgreen:
ISLAMABAD:
Once a happy hunting ground for job seekers, Pakistanis have seen work prospects in Gulf countries shrink dramatically in recent years, (so they are now "shamelessly " taking advantage of the Syrian crisis by posing themselves as "refugees" on the doors of Europe :twisted: )most prominently in war-hit countries such as Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Libya.
According to figures submitted in the National Assembly recently, as many as 8.7 million Pakistanis have found work overseas between 1971 and 2015,...
Jobs in Kuwait, which had provided employment to 109,951 Pakistanis from 1971 to 2002, have shrunk dramatically in the years following the Arab Spring with only 132 Pakistanis given jobs in 2014 before rising slightly to 155 in 2015.
No mention of the "Paki visa ban " by the brotherly Ummah nation of Kuwait :mrgreen:
Despite being a major contributor for remittances, the US has seen only 4,760 Pakistanis find work between 1971-2015,( so all this talk of "major non -NATO ally has not resulted to much !) while 12,170 were working in the United Kingdom during this period.
Syria, where Islamic State has a large footprint and has seen extended global counteraction from the likes of US, France, Britain and now Russia, saw no Pakistanis find a job there in the past five years(but has not, as per press reports, quite a lot of male and female Pakis have "found jobs" with ISIS :twisted: )
It was a similar story in war-hit Libya.
At the height of the fighting in 2014, around 7,040 Pakistanis had to be evacuated from the country. Around 700 Pakistanis remained in Sirte which were advised in August 2015 to leave as the situation there deteriorated.
Unrest and uprising in Yemen has also affected the Pakistani labour force there. According to the bureau, only 22 Pakistanis were employed in Yemen last year as a coalition of Gulf countries took on rebels.(am 400% sure that "many" must have "found jobs", serving as canon fodder for the Saudi side )
“I know many textile sector industrialists in Karachi who have shifted their focus to stock business instead while those in iron and steel industry are now importing goods from China,” Bengali said as he explained how jobs within Pakistan were shrinking and causing more people to explore prospects abroad.
But is not dabbling ie gambling in Stock Exchange is haram under Malsi :!:
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X-Posted on the Pakistani Economic Stress Watch

Fewer jobs for Pakistanis in Middle East
ISLAMABAD: Once a happy hunting ground for job seekers, Pakistanis have seen work prospects in Gulf countries shrink dramatically in recent years, most prominently in war-hit countries such as Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Libya.

According to figures submitted in the National Assembly recently, as many as 8.7 million Pakistanis have found work overseas between 1971 and 2015, over 84 per cent of which has been in Gulf countries. Saudi Arabia has been the most popular destination catering to 4.3 million Pakistanis (49.4 per cent of all overseas workers) and hence a top source of foreign remittances ($2.89 billion between July-December 2015 according to State Bank).
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Peregrine wrote:X-Posted on the Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
According to figures submitted in the National Assembly recently, as many as 8.7 million Pakistanis have found work overseas between 1971 and 2015, over 84 per cent of which has been in Gulf countries. Saudi Arabia has been the most popular destination catering to 4.3 million Pakistanis (49.4 per cent of all overseas workers) and hence a top source of foreign remittances ($2.89 billion between July-December 2015 according to State Bank).
Soon Honey Dispensing China will own all of Al Bakistan and then Baki will get paid in RMB, no need to go overseas for job.
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From Tabligi not allowed to preach in Paki universities,
According to notification Tablighi Jamats will not be allowed to enter educational institutions. The administration will devise a system of intelligence.

Religious sermons in the mosques of educational institutions will be delivered after approval from the administration.

As per the fresh advisory issued by the Punjab government, the mosques in and surrounding university campuses will be bound to get the content of sermons approved before delivering them.

The university administration will also be bound to alert security institutions about the faculty members that are sympathetic of terrorist elements.
Wonder if there is something to learn from this, as far as ANY ideology is concerned in general and, about Islamic ideology in particular as far as Pakistan is concerned. If this can be done in Pakistan, then it can be done anywhere.
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All is not well with the Pakistani Super League 20/20 Cricket.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1236129/the-pr ... per-league

First, it appears that their own 20/20 league teams aren't playing in Pakistan :shock:
To be hosted in Sharjah and Dubai between Feb 4 and Feb 23, the Pakistan Super League (PSL) pledges to propel the cricket-starved country and the cash-starved Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) towards commercial viability and greater professionalism.
And it doesn't appear to be profitable either
The first instalment of the tournament features only five teams — Islamabad United, Karachi Kings, Lahore Qalandars, Peshawar Zalmi and Quetta Gladiators — and in all probability, will return a negative net profit margin despite a total investment of $93m.

On the surface, in this day and age of broadcast and sponsorship rights, this investment pales in comparison to the money brought in by other T20 leagues being played around the world. The Indian Premier League (IPL), for example, boasts franchise values of around $700m, not to mention the $1.75billion from the sale of TV rights for a decade. In comparison, the PSL has only been able to muster $20m for three years from broadcasting rights.
All is not lost though, as they apply some madrassa math and the well known 1:10 ratio (and no, I'm not kidding, they *actually quoted* the 1 Paki = 10 Indians ratio in their calculations :mrgreen:), to show that is isn't all that bad:
But a closer inspection of the fine print reveals that even in comparison to the IPL, the PSL has done well till now. Back in January 2008, when eight IPL teams were first auctioned, the Indian cricket board generated a combined $724m from franchise sales. But this amount was to be paid in 10 annual instalments, thereby handing each team about $9m every year.

In comparison, Islamabad United’s sale at $1.5m fares well, as Pakistani products’ value is gauged on a 1:10 ratio against Indian products. In effect, the inaugural value of Islamabad United would be calculated as $15m, which is over and beyond the $9m average earned by IPL teams. By the same logic, therefore, Karachi Kings’ sale at $2.6m is a major coup.
and the merchandising isn't going all that well either, due to current form against the Kiwis:
Encouragingly for most franchises, Pakistani consumers have already begun warming up to the idea of a premier T20 league that they could call their own. Lahore-based online seller Ahmed Majeed has been receiving orders for fan merchandise, but he says that the Rs950 price point is proving to be prohibitive for clients.

“We receive orders largely through Facebook. I have already sold over 350 Lahore Qalandars t-shirts and a fair few for Karachi Kings. But many clients often make phone calls to simply ask if we can reduce selling prices; we always refuse, of course, and nearly all of them declined to place an order,” he says.

Majeed explains that cloth for the fan merchandise is being sourced from Faisalabad and stitched locally. But while t-shirts are being made in Lahore, replica kits are being sourced from Sialkot and sold at shops across Lahore.

Meanwhile, in Karachi, unofficial fan merchandise has also made its way to Zainab Market and Tariq Road, the city’s two main commercial hubs. Mohammad Naeem, a seller in Zainab Market, explains that his Rs300 t-shirts have sold like hot cakes, to the extent that he had to re-order them thrice ever since the Karachi Kings launch show.

“We ordered t-shirts for three teams: Karachi Kings, Lahore Qalandars and Quetta Gladiators. We thought that demand for these teams will be high, and so it proved. Till now, we have had three consignments for Karachi Kings shirts, each with 500 shirts. And we’ll be ordering again this week,” says Naeem.

According to him, unofficial low-cost fan merchandise is being manufactured in Karachi and distributed to shops and sellers across the city. “Everyone is excited about the PSL but tentative at the same time. These low-cost t-shirts have allowed us to check the mood of clients and what they want. Nobody is prepared to invest big money at this stage,” he argues.

But over at Lord’s Sports, among the oldest sports goods shops in Karachi, owner Zohaib Iqbal reports only a mild interest in PSL merchandise. “Two out of 10 customers,” he says, when asked to quantify consumer interest.

“The performance of the Pakistan team is also a huge factor in determining consumer interest. Since the team is not doing well in New Zealand, demand is low these days,” says Iqbal, who terms the PSL replica kits as a niche product at this stage.
Doesn't look like there's that much interest in the shirts, but if it does pick up, would be interesting for some Gujju chaps to manufacture their own shirts and undercut the competition across the border.

Interestingly, at least 3 of the 5 inaugural teams are not owned by Pakistani businesses. Lahore Qalandars is owned by Qatar Oil and Peshawar Zalmis is owned by Haier and Islamabad United is owned by Leonine Global Sports, a subdivision of Leonine Global Investments (which is in the UK, but may be Paki owned). I haven't bothered to check the other two owners.
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In comparison, Islamabad United’s sale at $1.5m fares well, as Pakistani products’ value is gauged on a 1:10 ratio against Indian products
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
The land of TSP where fake news and real news always seem to converge and are indistinguishable...
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sum wrote:
In comparison, Islamabad United’s sale at $1.5m fares well, as Pakistani products’ value is gauged on a 1:10 ratio against Indian products
The land of TSP where fake news and real news always seem to converge and are indistinguishable...
Absolutely. Many can recall with glee the extraordinary math employed by the Pakis about a decade back on how they were earning as much, if not more, from software exports as neighbouring India! Similar techniques were used!

And, this constant urge to compare themselves against India and convince themselves they were either equal or superior. That is the classic case of 'inferiority complex'.
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Saudi Governor, Prince Fahad Of Tabuk Province Arrives In Pakiland To Hunt Endangered Houbara Bustard; Receives Red Carpet Welcome (Because It Is One Of The Pillars Of Paki Foreign Policy :mrgreen: ) At Dalbandin Airport
QUETTA: Governor of Tabuk Prince Fahad bin Sultan bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud has arrived in Dalbandin, the district headquarters of Chagai district of Balochistan, in connection with the hunting of houbara bustard.
Earlier, the superior courts had banned the hunting of the endangered bird, but recently the Supreme Court lifted the ban (probably under orders of Ganja & Co )
The Tabuk governor was welcomed by Saudi Ambassador to Pakistan Abdullah Zahrani, Adviser to Balochistan Chief Minister Muhammad Khan Lehri, MPAs Ghulam Dastagir Badini and Sakhi Amanullah Notezai and Quetta Division Commissioner Qambar Dashti at the Dalbandin airport on Saturday.
those who attended upon the Prince will surely enjoy the largesse which these prince and princelings are known all over the world :mrgreen:
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U.S. plans re-merger of India, Pak. desks - Suhasini Haidar, The Hindu
Seven years after the State Department was restructured to ‘de-hyphenate’ U.S. relations with India and with Pakistan, it is considering a reversal of the move.

De-hyphenating refers to a policy started by the U.S. government under President Bush, but sealed by the Obama administration, of dealing with India and Pakistan in different silos, without referring to their bilateral relations. It enabled the U.S. to build closer military and strategic ties with India without factoring in the reaction from Pakistan, and to continue its own strategy in Afghanistan with the help of the Pakistan military without referring back to India.

‘Active’ consideration

A proposal to re-merge the office of the Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan (SRAP) back with the Bureau of South and Central Asia (SCA) that handles India, the rest of the subcontinent and Central Asian republics is under “active” consideration, senior-level sources told The Hindu.
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Oppurtunist Cleric, Maulana Diesel (Fazlul Rehman ) Hides Behind Paki Constitution; Assails Action Against Seminaries and Ulemas
ISLAMABAD: Expres­sing ‘dissatisfaction’ over the law and order situation in the country, the JUI-F criticised the Punjab government on Sunday for its alleged action against seminaries and ulema in the name of operation against terrorism.
the estimated maulana did not worry on that score; the influence of maulvis, pirs, maulanas in Paki politics is solid as a rock; does not the Paki constitution state that the fate of this land "rests in Allah's hands" :mrgreen:
“There is a need to review decisions. We need to see if the policy of using power( code word for "army action " ?) for elimination of terrorism is successful or not?”
The maulana said he had expressed reservations over the National Action Plan (NAP) when it was being finalised. “But I was left alone at that time.” He said his party had supported NAP and the 21st Constitution Amend­ment and setting up military courts only for the sake of national unity.
...the JUI-F chief claimed that religious seminaries and mosques were being raided on a daily basis in Punjab.
...but they are raiding only Madaris and mosques in search of one or two persons.”
Maulana Fazl, whose party is an ally of the PML-N in the federal government, ( he has always courted parties in power to be on the "right side of govt " )alleged that the sanctity of mosques and Madaris was being violated in the name of security and action against terrorists.
The Maulana accused the Punjab government of including the names of religious leaders and Ulema belonging to some political parties in the Fourth Schedule and termed it a violation of the Constitution and human rights. The Fourth Schedule is a section of the Anti-terrorism Act under which suspects are kept under observation.
“You cannot deliver Khutabas (sermons). You cannot give Dars (religious teachings). You cannot lead prayers. Even members of Tableeghi organisations are not being allowed to carry out their peaceful and positive activities,” he said.
“We have not seen such actions even during martial laws,” said the Maulana. Even India had not imposed such restrictions on the Muslims there, he added.
(suddenly, he has become an "admirer"of India )
In reply to a question about activities of Maulana Abdul Aziz and Jamia Hafsa in Islamabad, he claimed that such issues were created under a plan to pave the way for action against Madaris and religious institutions.
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