The Levant crisis.(Israel,SYRIA,Lebanon,etc) - II

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 14 Feb 2016 15:24

Putin, Obama discuss on the phone Syrian settlement, situation in Ukraine

http://tass.ru/en/politics/856660

I am just wondering the number of times Lavarov and Kerry meet officially thats like dozen of times , then they bump into each other on some other event dozens of time , Obama and Putin phone calls many times.

What do they really discuss on so many occassion for Syrian or Ukraine issue ...........I mean our officialls barely meet kerry twice or thrice and Obama/PM meet may be once at best in a year.

Dont they get bored meeting each other dozens of time ?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2016 16:26

Dont they get bored meeting each other dozens of time ?

Must be like some of the dhagas we had on PeeAref where they remind each other of each other's multiple parentage, canine ancestry, porcine DNA etc. Read the Twits under any of the Syria Twitter feeds to get a sense of these mutual compliments.
One feels a strange and strong compulsion to go back and post one more compliment there... and the Presidents of USA and Russia are not constrained by Adminullahs banning them even. Imagine!
Consider that one rarely hears of

Kerry talks to Lavrov on the phone

That's because THEY have to worry about being banned.
Q.E.D.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2016 16:33

Turkish Army vehicles and tanks wait near the Syrian border ILYAS AKENGIN/AFP/Getty Images

The ~~NATOISIS~~ Turkish military have confirmed strikes against regime targets in north west Syria.
~~NATOISIS~~Turkish troops responded to mortar fire from Syrian government troops on a police station in Calibogazi, Hatay province, this afternoon, reported the ~~NATOISIS~~ state run Turkish Anadolu Agency.

However, there was no further detail on how ~~NATOISIS~~Turkish troops responded.

~~NATOISIS~~Turkey has also acknowledged its strikes against the Kurdish PYD in Syria today.

The Independent will continue to monitor this story as it develops.

We now have a ringside seat to see what the US/NATO would have done if India had gone to war against the NATO-MUNNA Paki terrorists in 2002.

Russian nukes helped a lot in 1971. Maybe now too?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2016 16:37

Gets better:

Syrian Kurds show by middle finger where Erdogan should sit

The Syrian Kurdish PYD party on Sunday rejected Turkish demands that allied militia withdraw from positions near the border that are being shelled by Turkish army, and warned that Syrians would resist any Turkish intervention in the country.

Saleh Muslim, the co-chair of the PYD, told Reuters Turkey had no right to intervene in Syria's internal affairs, adding that an air base shelled by the Turkish army on Saturday had been in the hands of the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front until forces allied to the PYD captured it last week.

"Do they want the Nusra Front to stay there, or for the regime to come and occupy it?" Muslim said by telephone. Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu on Saturday demanded the PYD withdraw from areas north of Aleppo he said had been captured by the Kurdish group. Asked if he rejected that demand, Muslim said: "Of course".

Saleh said the air base was captured by the PYD-allied Syria Democratic Forces, which includes Arabs and Turkmen alongside the powerful Syrian Kurdish YPG militia.

He added that if Turkey intervened in Syria they would find "the entire Syrian people confronting them".

Turkey on Saturday demanded the YPG militia withdraw from areas that it had captured in the northern Aleppo region in recent days from insurgents in Syria, including the Menagh air base. The Turkish shelling has targeted those areas.

Turkey has been alarmed by the expansion of Kurdish sway in northern Syria since the start of the conflict in 2011. The YPG controls nearly all of Syria's northern frontier with Turkey, and has been a close ally of the United States in the campaign against Islamic State in Syria.

Ankara views the group as an extension of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which has waged a three-decade-old insurgency for autonomy in southeast Turkey.

(Reporting by Tom Perry, editing by Larry King)

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2016 16:39

.@mfa_russia spokesperson mocks UK's stance on #Syria http://sptnkne.ws/aC5D #SyriaCrisis
(yow! Compare to shrilleen...)

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2016 16:53

A Dunon
‏@4rj1n #BREAKING
Ahrar+allies attacking Enab and Meryamin villages in Afrin Canton with support of Turkish shelling. (ANHA)
#TwitterKurds #Syria
4:15 AM - 14 Feb 2016 A Dunon ‏@4rj1n 10m10 minutes ago. There is an ongoing shelling by Turkey in support of the jihadists who tries to advance against YPG. Civilian houses damaged in shelling.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2016 16:55

Do watch this!
https://twitter.com/islamlie2/status/69 ... 69?lang=en
Jihadi Kermit ☮ @islamlie2
#SaudiArabia warming up their special forces. Getting them ready before entering the war in #Syria. @TarekFatah

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 14 Feb 2016 16:57

a few years ago i heard a story from someone who was then serving in a NATO airforce that chaiwallah sources told him that the IDF AF once managed to sneak up on a saudi AF jet. the brave desert mard-al-hawaii when seeing the yehudi-baaz apparently make much big panics and flew his shiny new toy into the ground in a desperate attempt to get away

now imagine what al hawaii will do if he says a red star in his rear view mirror...

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2016 16:59

Meanwhile:
Abu Sarhan
‏@BrazilAleppo

In Last 24 hours : At least 100 "ISIS" terrorists were eliminated in Deir Ezor by the #SAA . #Syria
4:14 AM - 14 Feb 2016

(How does someone sitting in Aleppo know what's going on in Deir ez Zor I wonder.

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Feb 2016 17:02

the ones fighting in DeZ are mainly from aleppo, hama & latakia. Yes, they are mainly sunni syrian troops. They call back families or maybe connect via skype.

Gyan · Post by **Gyan** » 14 Feb 2016 18:28

Russia will do well to avoid frontal fight with Saudi + Turkish Air force as they will fight under the Radar, ECM, ECCM, ELINT umbrella of Uncle. Russia must use change the nature of fight by using cruise missiles, conventional ballistic missiles, freedom fighters etc against oil, economic and tourist targets of Saudi, Turkey & Allies.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2016 18:48

Gen. Vodkovich has pointed out that everything flying over Syrian airspace is covered by S400 radar. Hostiles subject to shootdown. No NATO protection for intrusion into Syrian airspace AFAIK. It's just a matter of having the ****s and this is why I said: let's watch what happens - how far NATO will go to protect a MUNNA when facing someone with ****s.

Meanwhile...
Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 26m26 minutes ago
#Turkey has transferred 400 Islamist militants from #Idlib countryside to north #Aleppo to help stop #SDF advance

Charles Lister
‏@Charles_Lister
Landed in @BWI_Airport on U.S passport after work trip to #Turkey. Held by security who are looking for "a nexus to terrorism".
Seriously?

H e b a ‏@HKX07 Feb 11
@Charles_Lister you're a Qatari paid "analyst" promoting terrorist listed group Al Qaeda in #Syria as "moderates" - why were you released?

Erik Meyersson ‏@emeyersson Feb 9
Norwegian daily @Aftenposten is being thrown out of #Turkey, caught in web of gov crackdown on freedoms in #Turkey http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks ... 49321.html …

Murad Gazdiev ‏@MuradoRT Feb 10 Moscow, Russia
RU Foreign Ministry: nobody seems concerned about a verified, unfolding genocide of #kurds in #turkey. Where is the media coverage?
146 retweets 79 likes

Haris Haqqani ‏@harishaqqani1 5h5 hours ago
Breaking: #Turkey has reportedly carried out its first airstrike targeting #YPG in reef North Aleppo. says Erdogan
12 retweets 2 likes

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 19:41

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 6h6 hours ago
#Iran's MoD set to visit #Russia for military talks - Press TV

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Feb 2016 19:51

standoff airstrikes can happen, they need not cross the border but can fling bombs and pgm's at an angle and it can travel a few kms into syria. Even glided standoff bombs.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 20:06

my prediction is iran is going to send a few 1000 more fighters to help the SAA take palmyra, Al bab and tabqah quicker.

short term they will tolerate a few blows in order to keep the long term goal of preventing a sunni bantustan

once these goals in south are accomplished perhaps they will bring in artillery to duel with the turks the way we use to have indo-tsp duels on the IB and LOC. their own drones and russi fire finder radars and IMINT will provide the targeting cues for MLRS units.

india continues to sail like a slow dhow on the muscat-kochi run in proactively and heavily weaponising our deterrent with better grade designs and FOC the cansister launched Agni5 and K4. sitting on our thumbs does not provide us any security at all.
if things go down and incirlik attracts a nuke-tipped iskander , the only ones not left nanga are those with n-weapons and the deadly intent to use them for any purpose needed to defend national interests.

playing a veggie dharmic is going to get a lot of indians killed for nothing thats all. our defence is all big talk with no volume production and local designs of all vital gear for sustained operations.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 20:17

ISIS is the black sewer in the middle

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 14 Feb 2016 21:18

Singha wrote:my prediction is iran is going to send a few 1000 more fighters to help the SAA take palmyra, Al bab and tabqah quicker.

short term they will tolerate a few blows in order to keep the long term goal of preventing a sunni bantustan

once these goals in south are accomplished perhaps they will bring in artillery to duel with the turks the way we use to have indo-tsp duels on the IB and LOC. their own drones and russi fire finder radars and IMINT will provide the targeting cues for MLRS units.

...

You were right. Iran has its own plans for Syria

ORich ‏@O_Rich_ now5 minutes ago
@EjmAlrai http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-warns ... -in-syria/ …

edited image tag.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 14 Feb 2016 21:58

Assad should remain in office until the determination of the political future of Syria device - Medvedev
02.14.2016 20:00:51

Moscow. The 14th of February. Interfax - President Bashar al-Assad of Syria must participate in all the processes taking place in his country, and to remain in office for as long as not resolved the issue of the future political ATS unit, said Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.

"Prior to the determination of the future political Syria device , the manner in which the country will be managed, it must be in place is our position. "-. he said in an interview with Euronews

Medvedev also said that Assad" must participate in all procedures, processes, but his fate as a political leader must decide the people of Syria. "

And he Assad understands that his fate will decide the Syrian people, Medvedev said.

" He said this when he came to Moscow that if the people did not support me, naturally, I am in government will not participate, "- said the prime minister.

Medvedev said that Moscow believes that Assad is the only currently legitimate authority in Syria.
" like it to someone or not like he current president. If it is to pull out of this design, there will be chaos ", - stated the Prime Minister.

As proof of his words reminded Medvedev about the situation in some Middle Eastern countries, in particular in Libya.
Ki + 1

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 14 Feb 2016 22:03

Medvedev: Russia and US relations deteriorated
02.14.2016 20:00:30
*** Moscow is ready to build a dialogue with the West on an equal footing Moscow. The 14th of February. INTERFAX - The Russian-American relations have almost destroyed, and worse than they were before the "reset", but Moscow is ready to discuss all issues on an equal footing, said Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. "The question is, as in the name of what we like. -That restarted relationship with the Americans. I was personally involved in this, Sergei Lavrov pressed the button with Hillary Clinton, if I remember correctly, on which was written almost Reset, in fact a little bit different. So what? Unfortunately, relations deteriorated again they are destroyed, they are worse than they were, "-. Medvedev said in an interview with Euronews Therefore, the Russian prime minister said," if anything restart, then on a fundamentally different basis. " "Which equitable, fair, good relations based on the assumption that it is necessary not only to the Russian Federation and the European Union, the United States of America?" - Said Medvedev. He will stress that Russia is ready to restore relations with the United States and the European Union. "we are ready for this, we want a good, advanced relations with the United States of America and the European Union. the European Union in general, our most important trading partner. This is a group of countries that are on the same contact continent, we are bound by the European identity, history, . values It's not in our interests - to maintain this tension, but if we are first told that since we did not want to, of course, the first steps towards the restoration of relations should take those who interrupted We are ready to discuss.. any questions ", - he said Russian Prime Minister. Medvedev drew attention to the NATO action. "As soon as something is happening in the global agenda, in which Russia takes part, the North Atlantic Alliance immediately inflates the cheeks, lips and says, well, everything, we'll stop to talk, suspend relations", - said the prime minister. This was during the events in Georgia, and after the Ukrainian events. "We say, well, that's your business, pause takes some time, and our ears begin to say. We actually want to defrost, let's start on the subject to cooperate on this ... What does this mean in? the-first, the solution is quite meaningless - to cease cooperation under the hardest of the international situation, where we all need each other Second, after some time it is necessary to act out back. "- he said. ar

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2016 22:06

Well.. (about the Brigadier Jarnail's bravado): the Eyeranians also yell Death To Israel! every other breath. Hope they are more serious about Syria jhapad. Seems like they should strike that deal with Iraqi Kurds (to leave Iran alone) and then go all-out to blast the Turks and give Kurdistan independence. With some small assistance, the Kurds can discourage the Turkish Army from any plans of going anywhere else. Sustained Iranian/Russian help incl. air cover over Iraqi Kurdistan will cause Turkish Kurdistan to explode. Then again, maybe Erdogan has checkmated that prospect by the genocide over the past few weeks. They have declared "operation over" - wonder what is left of the Kurdish resistance.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 14 Feb 2016 22:10

A good look at ground positions of ISIS on the Syria map throws up two paths for the Saudi- Turki coalition's march to Raqqa. One from North to Raqqa and one from South. If they come from South, they will meet SAA at Al Quryatayn or Palmyra or Dier Ez Zor. It is also long and mostly across open country. They will need air support once out of Jordan border. We know their capable air force and how well they will handle the RuAF or SAAF.

From the North, to avoid YPG and SAA their window is open only till SAA does not reach Al Tabqah town. Once SAA is at Al Tabqah, the Saudis and Turrks will not have unchallenged access to Raqqa from North. YPG with RuAF support is closing in on Manbij. SAA is closing in on Al Bab. The unchallenged corridor to Raqqa is already narrow.

Another important point is the possibility of linking up from Al Tabqah and Dier Ez Zor for the SAA. Check the map posted by Singha Ji. If they reach Al Tabqah airbase, it will their nearest point for quickly reaching Dier Ez Zor pocket and also one with least no. of towns and built up areas for entrenched resistance.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2016 22:27

Its the sheer arrogance of the thing: Both Turkey and KSA are the sponsors of ISIS, and they now claim they are going into Syria to FIGHT ISIS? For or against? So the road to Raqqa needs to be mined and bombed daily to wipe out those columns coming from Turkey.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Feb 2016 22:32

x-posting from West Asia thread:

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13941125001407
Saudi Intellligence Chief Killed in Missile Attack in Asir - Feb 14, 2016

Quoting informed sources, Yemen's Arabic-language Sa'adah Press reported that the Saudi Army's Intelligence Commander in the region, General Hassan Ahmad al-Mutairi, was killed in a missile attack by Yemen's army.

No more details are available on the development.

On Sunday, the Yemeni forces pounded an important airport and a key military base in Asir province with ballistic and Scud missiles.

Yemen's Qaher-I ballistic missile precisely hit an airport in Abha region in Asir province.

Meantime, a Scud missile struck a military base in Khamis Mushait region in Asir province.

According to the eyewitnesses, several explosions were heard after the Qaher-I missile hit the Abha airport.

During recent days Yemen's Army and popular forces' missiles have been targeting several focal points of Saudi military in al-Jawazat, al-Amarah and al-Khormah in Asir province.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Feb 2016 22:43

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13941125001497
URGENT: Syrian Army Gains Control Over Strategic Heights in Raqqa Province
<funny a news item is marked 'urgent'

so it is intended to be spread wider(?)>

"The Syrian army is advancing to the West of the Raqqa province. After heavy fighting against ISIL terrorists, strategic heights have been taken under control," the source told Sputnik.

Earlier in the day, the Syrian army is poised to advance into the ISIL-held Northern region of Raqqa.

The Syrian government forces and popular units continued to advance on the terrorists’ positions in the Northeastern part of Hama province securing a long chunk of Salamiyah-Raqqa highway.

Currently, the Syrian Armed Forces are approximately 35 km away from the Tabqa military airport — their primary objective in Raqqa at the moment.

Shanu · Post by **Shanu** » 14 Feb 2016 22:54

I am waiting for the closing of the Bosphorus by Turkey. Till then no 'March to Raqqa' will be attempted. Only the Nusra and Shams types will do the fighting.. no open confrontation without closing the channel.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Feb 2016 23:00

Closing the channel will be seen as an act of war. Russians may not react visibly at all, but Turkey may explode. Also, life will become interesting for the OTHER Baltic states.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 14 Feb 2016 23:10

Russians have enough 100 ton transporters to deal with the sea route being closed off or matters made inconvenient. Turkey may lose the greek/cypriot conflict immediately AND open a gaping fissure in NATO in a hundred places at once if they even dream of closing bosphorus.

Remember egypt and the suez? Why should it be different if turkey tries its hand at the same thing today?

Turkey is taking pot shots. It was said this is something they will do. Will they fly enough F16s to create noise on their territory? Yes. Will Saudis fly their F15s overturkey? Yes. Will they srnd in truckloads of jeehardis? Even turkish southern light infantry? Yes. But thats all been happening for 5 years.

Will turkey try iraq style military camps? Kurds or not, the sultan will get his just yoghurts if he thinks that will fly. Rusdia has severe, severe interests just miles north. in armenia. they cant afford to let this one slide.

It doesnt matter what the ukrainians, georgians, azerbaijanis or whoever else think. Turkey isnt getting a buffer zone by force. By negotiation or under the table deal? who knows.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Feb 2016 23:19

Question is when does Turkey become Pakistan and/or Ukraine in terms of domestic shituation?

If Assad can threaten US in Sept 2013 on Charlie Rose show with 'expect everything if you attack Syria' what has he got for Turkey, which has actually used chemical weapons of mass destruction in Syria.

As a neutral third party observer I find that Turkey isn't paying much of a price for the game it is playing and I find it a bit odd and am expecting Russia to come good on their promise

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 Feb 2016 23:29

UlanBatori wrote:Well.. (about the Brigadier Jarnail's bravado): the Eyeranians also yell Death To Israel! every other breath. Hope they are more serious about Syria jhapad. Seems like they should strike that deal with Iraqi Kurds (to leave Iran alone) and then go all-out to blast the Turks and give Kurdistan independence. With some small assistance, the Kurds can discourage the Turkish Army from any plans of going anywhere else. Sustained Iranian/Russian help incl. air cover over Iraqi Kurdistan will cause Turkish Kurdistan to explode. Then again, maybe Erdogan has checkmated that prospect by the genocide over the past few weeks. They have declared "operation over" - wonder what is left of the Kurdish resistance.

Best outcome from India's perspective. Friendly regime in Syria, Kurdistan, Iran, Israel and the destruction of 2 Abbus of Munnastan to our West.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Feb 2016 23:34

Ghost of Saddam haunts Bush's family but one can argue whether the price of bad(mass murdering) legacy is good enough or is an insult to all the millions dead.

<from couple days ago>

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 14 Feb 2016 23:43

UlanBatori wrote:Closing the channel will be seen as an act of war. Russians may not react visibly at all, but Turkey may explode. Also, life will become interesting for the OTHER Baltic states.

Russia wants to spread war, then let them try it. The US is not sitting still in the Baltic states either.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/23/politics/ ... sh-carter/

Russia may find out that fighting a trained motivated opponent who actually loves his country and who is properly equipped is just little bit different than fighting in the middle east. As they found out in Finland.

As for nukes, let Russia try and nuke an opponent who is not using nukes and see what ultimately happens.

not gonna happen.....

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 14 Feb 2016 23:59

US has been spreading war covertly and overtly around the globe and accusing Russia .
As far as nukes are concerned , US is the only country to have used it on a non-nuclear country. BUT Russia ain't Japan.For all the american bravado when the first Russian nuke arrives in Turkey , NATO will run with its tails tucked in between its legs. Turkey will be cooked for feast and Saudis back into stone age where they belong.
For all the US bravado and nukes , we have seen what happened in 1971. The US ally Al Pakistan got broken into two and US mil power kept watching. The Russians just had to show their nuclear submarines tailing the US carrier battle group. US is yet to fight a worthy opponent. When it could not win Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq , Libya how is it gonna handle Russia.
As far as Europe is concerned, they can't handle a couple thousand refugees how will it handle a couple thousand nukes.I say let the first Russian nuke fly , we will see NATO response by kicking Turkey out of NATO.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 15 Feb 2016 00:07

Turkey is NATO. Too many of russian markets there. Turkey itself buys fuel. So turkish delight is not easy to make, russia will be chopping off its own foot.

Saudi, qataris etc are fair game and they are only competitors. Its their home turf, via yemen or not that will become interesting. Them yemenis are doing great work with proclaimed duds, them scuds. They will definitely get better. May be ISIS itself will decide the country with the shrines is where it needs to retreat and blossom. Who knows.

This wont stay a fight where russia waits for the next front to open. I say baluchistan is a valid and great front to become plausible. Greece and/or cyprus are wonderful places. They will come into play sooner or later.

Yemen, I suspect is the first. Iraq might be second. Iran might become a proper adversary. Thats enough of a problem for saudis. May be kuwait and bahrain will have proper revolutions this time. A lot of work needs doing.

Y. Kanan · Post by **Y. Kanan** » 15 Feb 2016 00:08

TSJones wrote:Russia wants to spread war, then let them try it. The US is not sitting still in the Baltic states either.

Let me get this straight: you're advocating the US militarily support Turkey and Saudi Arabia, including even launching (presumably conventional) strikes against Russia from the Baltics?

You've got to be sh*tting everyone here; how many Americans will trade NY and Dallas for Ankara and Riyadh. Are you people really that f*cking stupid, or it just you? (I'm guessing the latter)

You're such a blowhard troll what is your purpose here, other than trying to get a rise out of everyone whenever you can? You contribute nothing of value and your military knowledge is not at all impressive for someone who claims to be a veteran. BTW if you really do have a son in uniform, you're cheering for the people that would happily saw off his head while chanting "Allah Akhbar" and then proudly post it on the internet, you incredibly short-sighted twit.

Y. Kanan · Post by **Y. Kanan** » 15 Feb 2016 00:11

Shreeman wrote:Turkey is NATO. Too many of russian markets there. Turkey itself buys fuel. So turkish delight is not easy to make, russia will be chopping off its own foot.

Saudi, qataris etc are fair game and they are only competitors. Its their home turf, via yemen or not that will become interesting. Them yemenis are doing great work with proclaimed duds, them scuds. They will definitely get better. May be ISIS itself will decide the country with the shrines is where it needs to retreat and blossom. Who knows.

This wont stay a fight where russia waits for the next front to open. I say baluchistan is a valid and great front to become plausible. Greece and/or cyprus are wonderful places. They will come into play sooner or later.

Yemen, I suspect is the first. Iraq might be second. Iran might become a proper adversary. Thats enough of a problem for saudis. May be kuwait and bahrain will have proper revolutions this time. A lot of work needs doing.

Destroying Saudi\GCC oil production for a few years would certainly put a quick end to this oil price war that's been aimed at Russia since 2014...

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 15 Feb 2016 00:13

Let me get this straight: you're advocating the US militarily support Turkey and Saudi Arabia, including even launching (presumably conventional) strikes against Russia from the Baltics?

you need reading lessons, I never stated that. You did.

Mongol stated invasion of Baltics to which I replied.

Are you implying Russia is going to use nukes on its foreign adventures?

member_29325 · Post by **member_29325** » 15 Feb 2016 00:39

And now McCain opens his stupid trap and mouths the same pro-ISIS nonsense like the rest of the clowns in the USA. These oiseaules create a war in the Ukraine and screw with Putin and now want Putin to be a "partner", it seems.

McCain slams Russia: 'Mr. Putin is not interested in being our partner':

A day after Russia's prime minister spoke of a renewed "Cold War" between his country and the West, a senior U.S. senator accused of Moscow of treating Syria "as a live-fire exercise" for its military as it sought to carve out a sphere of influence in the Middle East.

Speaking Sunday at the Munich Security Conference in Germany, U.S. Sen. John McCain criticized Russian President Vladimir Putin's intervention in Syria's nearly five-year civil war.

"Mr. Putin is not interested in being our partner," said McCain, chairman of the U.S. Senate's Armed Services Committee, adding that the Russian president wanted to "shore up the Assad regime."

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 15 Feb 2016 00:40

so what is punishment for male fighters dressed as female and trying to escape battle field?

'ISIS militants shave beards, dress as women to escape Ramadi'

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 984514.cms

Suresh S · Post by **Suresh S** » 15 Feb 2016 00:51

And now McCain opens his stupid trap and mouths the same pro-ISIS nonsense like the rest of the clowns in the USA. These oiseaules create a war in the Ukraine and screw with Putin and now want Putin to be a "partner", it seems.

In a just world this guy McCain, dick cheney and rumsfeld would be tried and convicted as war criminals but then it is not a just world . But the world got a lot just with putin becoming the leader of Russia.

Hundreds of thousands are dead and the country of Iraq is destroyed for no reason whatsoever and yet these criminals have the gal to come and talk non stop on whatever media outlet. Thiruv I recommend you watch the U tube video by kenneth O'keefe "my Journey from US marine to a human rights activist". You may not agree with everything he says but this man has got the big things right. A great man. a real life hero unlike some marines we have on this board.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 15 Feb 2016 01:12

Mongol stated invasion of Baltics to which I replied.

Ah! A perfectly understandable misunderstanding. You did not have the privilege of getting trained in The Classics at the Eye Eye Tee like I did. Such as The Fable of The Boss.

There was a contest in the body to elect The Boss.
The Brain said: Most obvious. A Boss Must be a Brain.
The Eyes said: Well.. A Boss Must have Vision.
The Heart said: The Boss must have Heart, and the Heart keeps the rest of you alive.
The Arms said... (u get the idea). ..
No one supported The Oiseule.
So the Oiseule just closed and refused to let any pakistan through.
The Arms grew weaker. The Eyes grew fainter. The Heart felt weaker.. The Brain got a headache. They all said: We give up! We elect you The Boss.

Which proves the ancient Classical Truth:

U don't have to b a Brain 2 be da Boss. U just have 2 b an Oiseule.

I was just pointing out the obvious. If Turkey acts as Oiseule, ALL the Baltic states, not just Russia, will have a lot of trouble and they will all have some concerns. Far from a Russian attack on unarmed Baltic States, I was thinking of Baltic Convoys like the old Arctic Russian Convoys led by Russian ships, protected by a joint force from all Baltic states, forcing their way through the Bosporus. Constantinopol may be up for Waste Management and Halliburton Reconstruction Contracts a la Aleppo.

The effect may be like what someone shouting the word "HOUTHIS!!" would have in a Riyadh War Council Meeting. Sharp rise in Pakistan tourism.