Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2016

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 02 Mar 2016 20:33

Now, that Ghazi-Qadri has been peacefully laid to rest in his family graveyard (near Pindi), his village will become a venue for "religious tourism" and a place for pilgrimage for the Aam Abduls like BB's Mazar at Garhi Khuda Shah

PS: Unless the Paki authorities " take steps" (Sec 144 of Criminal Code? ) to prevent such a thing ! or if an unmarked grave was "reserved" for him

arun · Post by **arun** » 02 Mar 2016 20:42

Peregrine wrote:.........{Snipped}........... "In the aftermath of a terror attack, if you ask me what do you give priority to, a terrorist attack or a diplomatic dialogue, I think the answer should be obvious," foreign secretary S Jaishankar said. " ...........{Snipped}.................

Our Foreign Secretary S. Jaishankar should have spelt it out as the answer could vary

. For example if it was up to Mr. Mani Shanker Iyer the chances are the answer would undoubtedly be diplomatic dialogue

.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 02 Mar 2016 21:19

42 Pakistanis deported from UK arrive in Islamabad

ISLAMABAD:
A special flight carrying 42 Pakistanis deported from the United Kingdom arrived at Islamabad’s Benazir International Airport on Wednesday.
Sources say 30 of the 42 people left the country on exit permits, while the remaining 12 had regular Pakistani passports.
“Three of them had no previous travel recording, thus implying they must have left the country before Integrated Border Management System (IBMS) was imposed or through land routes.”
The deportees have been handed over to the Anti-Human Trafficking Cell (AHTC) department of the FIA for further investigation.
The FIA on Tuesday imposed a fine of Rs7.5 million on different foreign airlines for violating visa rules .

On the directives of Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar, all foreign airlines have been told not to carry any person into Pakistan who does not have a visa. To effectively pursue the case, heavy fines have also been imposed on airlines which have violated the rules in this regard.

So, it now seems that the foreign governments are now resorting to "special flights" to get rid of Pakis from their soil

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 02 Mar 2016 21:28

Asia Cup in Bangladesh :

PAK 129/7 (20.0 Ovs)
BAN 131/5 (19.1 Ovs)

Bangladesh beat Pakistan and will now play India in the Finals
Cheers

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Mar 2016 21:39

Dipanker wrote:YouTube has whole bunch of related video, just search for "Mumtaz Qadri"

World biggest janaza: Mumtaz Qadri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEs9jzaqr2o

Inshallah, Pakistan ka Jaldi Aane Wala Janaza Qadri Se bigger Hogga , a world record .

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 02 Mar 2016 21:44

Imran to join Indian TV as commentator
PTI chairman to visit India on ICA invitation

ISLAMABAD – Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf chairman Imran Khan will leave for India on March 18 on the special invitation of the Indian Cricket Association (ICA).
A private Indian TV channel has also extended invitation to Imran for undertaking this visit. Imran will offer commentary on this channel on cricket match between Pakistan and India scheduled to be held in Dharamshala.
Imran is ranked among the leading politicians of Pakistan and he is also considered a credible and trusted name in the world of cricket. Indian cricket circles have always remained convinced about the abilities of Imran in the world of cricket.

Immy's "draw power" ? As long as he "does commentary" on kirket matters, no one should be bothered ! Everyone, needs a vacation from Paki politics and this could be it for the Kaptaan

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 02 Mar 2016 21:47

deejay wrote:Mumtaz Qadri news may be accessed here

https://twitter.com/hashtag/MumtazQadri?src=hash

One tweet for reference
Hasnain ‏@HasnainKarachi now41 minutes ago
Thousands of #pakistanis attended a funeral of #MumtazQadri who assassinated a governor for 'alleged' blasphemy.

Was Mumtaz Qadri a Christian?

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 02 Mar 2016 22:06

No, JEM. But he murdered one and he was hanged for that.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 02 Mar 2016 22:13

Ah I see... I was just wondering because of the Orthodox cross on his coffin.
Was Salman Taseer a Christian? Don't think so.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 02 Mar 2016 22:19

JE Menon wrote:Ah I see... I was just wondering because of the Orthodox cross on his coffin.
Was Salman Taseer a Christian? Don't think so.

If you mean the one on the vehicle - It is not a cross on top of the vehicle. Most probably the red lights of the ambulance with flowers thrown perpendicular which makes it look like a cross.

rajsunder · Post by **rajsunder** » 02 Mar 2016 22:28

Falijee wrote:Pakistan, US sign agreement for provision of 250 PhD scholarships
ISLAMABAD (Web Desk) – Pakistan and the United States have signed an agreement for the provision of 250 PhD scholarships for Pakistani students.
This understanding reached during a meeting of the working group for science and technology under Pak-US Strategic Dialogue in Washington on Tuesday.
Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal represented Pakistan in the meeting.
Two hundred and fifty Fulbright PhD scholarships will be provided to Pakistani students in next five years.(Just the other day, the same minister was bombastically claiming about "1000 PhD's per annum ) Discussions are underway with the US authorities for the provision of further 10,000 Phd scholarships to Pakistan students.
The working group also reviewed establishment of advanced study centers in community colleges and universities of Pakistan.

None of these PhD's are ever going to come back to pakistan.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 03 Mar 2016 00:35

Pakistan Post to introduce ATM, biometrics for pensioners

Talking the (big) talk (for being = = ) but not Walking the walk ( you need to stand up - on your own two feet - before, you learn to walk

)

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 03 Mar 2016 01:07

"ISIS Has Great Potential To Grow In Pakistan" - Raja Khitab, Karachi Police Official

AP March 2, 2016, 4:32 AM

ISIS courts white-collar recruits in Pakistan

KARACHI, Pakistan -- Trying to lure him into the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the would-be recruiter told Pakistani journalist Hasan Abdullah, "Brother, you could be such an asset to the Ummah"- the Islamic community. Abdullah replied that he was enjoying life and had no plans to join the jihadis.
"The enjoyment of this life is short-lived. You should work for the Akhira" - the Afterlife, the recruiter pressed.
ISIS had its eye on Abdullah not because he adheres to any extremist ideology but because, as a journalist, the group believed he could be a boon to its propaganda machine, Abdullah told The Associated Press, recounting his meeting with the recruiter.

His encounter was a sign of how ISIS is looking for sophisticated skills as it builds its foothold in new territory: Pakistan. It is courting university students, doctors, lawyers, journalists and businessmen, and using women's groups for fundraising. It is also wading into fierce competition with the country's numerous other militant groups, particularly the Pakistani Taliban and al Qaeda in the Subcontinent, the new branch created by the veteran terror network.(the AP, is probably unaware of the Paki Interior Minister's assurance that there is no trace of ISIS in his country )
Here in Karachi, Pakistan's largest city, ISIS loyalists have set up their strongest presence, carrying out multiple attacks in the past year and setting up networks.

The port city of some 20 million people on the Arabian Sea has always been a favorite for militants to operate. Wealthy districts running on the city's profitable commerce hold potential for fundraising, while the crowded, cramped poorer districts that have spread around the city provide recruits and places to hide. It also gives recruiters links to other parts of the country, since its population is full of people who have migrated from tribal regions or Afghanistan, looking for work.

Good marketing strategy in the sense of covering both the high end as well as the mainstream segment of the potential market

The Karachi police's top counterterrorism official, Raja Umer Khitab, warns that ISIS has great potential to grow in Pakistan, not only because of its large reservoir of Sunni extremists but also because of the virulent anti-Shiite sentiment among their ranks. Hatred of Shiites and attacks against them are a keystone of ISIS' ideology and one source of its appeal among some hard-line Sunnis as it set up its self-declared "caliphate" in Iraq and Syria.

ISIS first announced its presence in Pakistan with a bloody attack in May in Karachi in which gunmen boarded a bus carrying Shiites, ordered them to bow their heads, then opened fire, killing 45.....

Since then, it has killed more than 35 policemen in targeted attacks, attacked two schools and killed rights activist Sabeen Mehmud, who was gunned down in her car with her mother at her side. (the "credit" for this should be given where it is due - this was a "Deep State" job masquerading as ISIS !)/]
The number of ISIS loyalists in Pakistan is not known. Government officials only recently admitted that they have a presence and insist loyalists here have no known operational links to the ISIS leadership in Iraq and Syria
One way ISIS militants are trying to recruit and build is through women. One academy for women in Karachi's Baloch Colony neighborhood recruited women by playing ISIS videos in the classrooms, Khitab told the AP. The 20 female students then reached out to middle-class and wealthy Karachi women, urging them to donate their religious tithes to the ISIS cause of establishing a caliphate.
SIS recruiters have been stalking university campuses. For example, the suspected mastermind in the bus attack, Saad Aziz, was a graduate of the U.S.-funded Institute of Business Administration in Karachi.
A professor at the Institute, Huma Baqai, said there are radicalized professors teaching in some of the country's top universities. They "are using the classrooms to mold (students') minds," she said. "There is no scrutiny in what happens in the classroom."
An intelligence official told the AP that security officials have interrogated several university professors suspected of supporting ISIS and trying to recruit students. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not allowed to talk to the press.
Professionals can hold leadership posts or be involved in the group's prolific and powerful propaganda machine, which includes sophisticated videos produced with the latest technology and vigorous use of social media.
Al Qaeda in particular is pursuing a similar caliber of recruits. Khitab said it isn't clear who is winning the competition but there are known instances of al Qaeda militants in Pakistan crossing over to ISIS. Most notably, Khitab said, al Qaeda operatives Abdullah Yusuf and Tayyab Minhas defected to ISIS and are believed to have orchestrated much of the group's violence in Karachi.
The past stereotype of a militant as a tribesman from the mountains in traditional garb with bandoliers of ammo slung over his shoulder has been replaced, said analyst Bruce Hoffman,
The new generation comes from "well-educated, cosmopolitan, university educated Pakistanis from middle-class backgrounds who can navigate our globalized space whether virtually or physically with facility and confidence." They can use social media, cross borders and fit "seamlessly into global societies."

Karachi has the distinction of the HQ of Taliban, Al-Qaeda, MQM and other assorted Jihadi outfits; so why should one be surprised if ISIS makes it "market operations" here ?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 03 Mar 2016 06:59

deejay wrote:No, JEM. But he murdered one and he was hanged for that.

JE Menon wrote:Ah I see... I was just wondering because of the Orthodox cross on his coffin.
Was Salman Taseer a Christian? Don't think so.

Mumtaz Qadri was the bodyguard of Salman Taseer and shot him because Taseer was defending a Christian woman accused of blasphemy. Taseer himself was an out and out pale green Islamist - his father or gandfather in India was a rabid Islamist.

In a moment of passionate weakness in the UK Tavleen Singh had a love child with Salman Taseer - I thing the son is Aatish Taseer. That apart Tavleen Singh is a true patriot and having read her book "Durbar" I am a bhakt for her courage and honesty about Shitland, Congis and Rajiv/Sonia

Mumtaz Qadri was hailed as an Izlamic hero but looks like being RAPE like Taseer scores over being aam Abdul Islamist. Every Christian or Shia killer normally gets away in Shitistan

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 03 Mar 2016 08:24

Doc even you are not letting me pull the legs of Paklurks

But the real connection is between Salman Taseers father and the Polish Jew who wrote the Pakistani constitution, and of course it should surprise no one that the bigot father begat a bigoted son who then went on to give him a half-Sikh grandson (who with his ridiculously courageous mother has cleansed the bloodline and returned it to India). Ironically one of Salman's Paki sons is still on the dix of the locals his grandfather nurtured. Skidnapped.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 03 Mar 2016 10:34

Pakistan is largely a secular country, where less than 10% of Pakistanis have killed other people for Blasphemy.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 03 Mar 2016 12:45

India, Pakistan keeping parallel processes going - Suhasini Haidar, The Hindu

As The Hindu had reported last week, senior officials now suggest the first time Indian, Pakistan Foreign Secretaries will meet will be at the SAARC consultations in Kathmandu on March 14-15.

External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj is also expected to meet her counterpart Sartaj Aziz at the same event on March 16-17, ahead of an expected meeting between Prime Ministers Narendra Modi and Nawaz Sharif in Washington at the end of March.

Foreign Secretary S. Jaishankar said at the Ministry of External Affairs’ ‘Raisina Dialogue’ in Delhi on Wednesday that the governments of India and Pakistan had remained in touch at different levels including through regular telephone conversations between National Security Adviser Ajit Doval and his Pakistan counterpart Nasir Janjua, the Foreign secretaries, and Mr. Modi and Mr. Sharif, calling it a “picture of parallel processes.”

Mr. Jaishankar’s statement seemed to corroborate Mr. Aziz’s remark in Washington that talks had been disrupted after the Pathankot attack.

U.S. thanked

Thanking the U.S. for its support in reviving the India-Pakistan dialogue, Mr. Aziz said it was “unfortunate” that the “agreement on resuming the dialogue process was disrupted by the attack on Pathankot airbase on January 2”, and listed several steps taken by Pakistan in its aftermath.

wig · Post by **wig** » 03 Mar 2016 12:58

on the family of the late Salman Taseer
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20110110/edit.htm#5

Like father, like son by R.K. Kaushik

IN history, sometimes along with human beings institutions also migrate. In the year 1947, one such institution, which migrated from Amritsar to Lahore was Muslim Anglo-Oriental (MAO) College. This college had a very famous Principal, who was also the first person from Punjab to get a PhD in English from Cambridge University of England.

It was one day in the summer of 1937 that he, a bachelor, went for shopping in Hall Bazaar of Amritsar. As ill luck would have it, he forgot his purse in the shop and came back. A British lady by the name of Ms. Christable picked up the purse and went next day to return it to Prof. Mohammed Din in his college.

Since the British lady had also been a Cambridge student, an instant friendship started. May be, that was love at first sight. Later, they decided to get married and their Nikah ceremony was performed by Sir Allama Iqbal.

Prof. Mohammed Din had three children — two daughters followed by a son, who was born in 1946. Christable’s younger sister Alys also started visiting Amritsar and developed a liking for a lecturer of English at MAO College named Faiz Ahmed Faiz. The younger sister followed the elder one and married Faiz.

At the time of Partition, most of the Muslim students and teachers of MAO College of Amritsar moved to Pakistan along with the college. The college itself got shifted to the premises of DAV College of Lahore located in the lower Mall. It still runs there.

Prof Mohammed Din was handsome and a voracious reader, besides being a famous Urdu poet, with the surname of Taseer. He took over the Principalship of Islamia College, Lahore. Prof. Mohammed Din Taseer had an early death in the late 50s. His son and two daughters were brought up by his wife Christable — now converted to Islam with the new name Bilquees. The daughters settled in England after marriage in Muslim families and the son, Salman Taseer, became a chartered accountant. He later joined politics and became a famous leader of the Pakistan People’s Party. He became the Governor of Punjab province of Pakistan in May 2008 and was murdered a few days ago by a fanatic.

Sometimes I think that had Prof Mohammed Din not lost his purse in the shop in Hall Bazaar, Amritsar, and had that not been found by the British damsel, many such events would not have happened.

Salman Taseer was murdered because of his stand on the blasphemy law regarding Holy Prophet. There is a strange coincidence. His father too had praised, defended and arranged for the funeral of Illamddin in 1929 because Illamddin, who had killed Rajpal Malhotra, the owner of Hind Pocket Books and father of former Punjab Governor Surender Nath because of his comments on Holy Prophet.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 03 Mar 2016 14:06

What really was the stand of Salman Taseer which got him killed?
He surely wasn't against the blasphemy law (No genuine Muslim is) but only was trying to show sympathy for the Xtian women who was accused of blasphemy.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 03 Mar 2016 15:17

JE Menon wrote: Doc even you are not letting me pull the legs of Paklurks

Oh ~~shit~~ Pakistan

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 03 Mar 2016 15:39

Waiting for this Jumma, why can some F-16's use their PGM's to Wajib e kattle those Judges who gave this judgement, would be good use of US equipment.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 03 Mar 2016 16:39

Pope accepts invitation to visit Pakistan this year

:- PART I of II

One of those "diplomatic statements", similar to the Russian President (Putin) "promise" to visit Pakistan
Can someone imagine the security required to make such a visit possible!

Vatican says No Plans Yet for Pope Francis to Visit Pakistan :

-PART II of II

Pope changes his mind !!!

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 03 Mar 2016 17:36

Mustafa Kamal decimates MQM chief Altaf, announces new political party
Deep State Shenanigans?

KARACHI: Former mayor of Karachi, Mustafa Kamal in a dramatic return to the city revealed for the first time his reasons behind his controversial exit from the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) and criticised the party’s chief Altaf Hussain for "deception" and what he called his poor running of one of Karachi’s strongest political parties.
In a speech that last nearly two hours, he also announced the formation of a new political party, which he said is yet to be named. He raised a Pakistani flag and said it is the official emblem of his newly launched organisation.

A similar tactic was tried by ISI during the Zia years - to split the MQM movement !

Midway during the speech, Kamal broke down into tears while addressing the press conference, as he went on to make major revelations about the internal workings of the party and what he called the cult of personality made around Altaf Hussain.
"Every time the MQM joined the government, its position deteriorated," Kamal stated.
"But Altaf sahab and the MQM instead of apologising, began verbally attacking PTI women activists at Two Swords,” he said, adding that despite poor governance, the MQM was able to bag two more seats between 2008 and 2013.

Referring to the MQM supremo as “Altaf sahib” as compared to his earlier reverential use of “Altaf Bhai", he said Hussain was often intoxicated (nothing new here !)while addressing workers, and that his state worsened over time.

Referring to the many resignations presented by the MQM supremo, Kamal said even the media doesn't remember how many times Altaf Hussain has resigned as party chief.
"We sacrificed for Altaf, and did not distinguish between right and wrong, but Altaf does not care about his workers. Party workers deaths are used by him for political point scoring only."

"When I was leaving the party I knew my life would be in danger," said Kamal, adding, "We knew we will be killed."
He went on to say, "I knew I could not live in Pakistan. I knew Altaf's Hussain's boys of Indian and South African setup will be active."
Talking about frequent allegations of Altaf's links with the Indian intelligence agency (RAW), Kamal stated, "Everyone knows Altaf Hussain has links with RAW."

"After Imran Farooq was murdered in 2010, Scotland Yard found documents from his (Farooq's) house,...

"They asked them (Altaf, Anwar, Tariq Mir) if they had links to India's spy agency, which was refused initially, but the Scotland Yard produced documents after which the MQM leaders, including Altaf, confessed to getting support from RAW."
Kamal was addressing the press conference with Anees Qaimkhani.
The announcement corroborates speculations that there was rift between Kamal and MQM supremo Altaf Hussain, a rumour that was earlier not confirmed by either the party or Kamal.

"All senior MQM leaders are aware that MQM has been taking funds from India's RAW for 20 years," Kamal said while elaborating further on the alleged links between MQM's leader and RAW.

The Deep State has been working "very hard" to discredit Altaf and his party in the eyes of his Karachi supporters!

"The workers are unaware of the true situation, Altaf should come straight and tell the workers why he has been receiving funds from India's spy agency."
"The purpose of our return is to make Altaf Hussain speak the truth," added an emotional Kamal.

"The whole Mohajir community, and Pakistan thinks we are RAW agents," said Kamal.

Earlier today, former mayor of Mustafa Kamal returned to Karachi after a prolonged absence from the political scene, alongside close aide and former party co-worker Anees Qaimkhani.
Kamal had told DawnNews that the conference will address political matters.
The former mayor belonged to the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) before he suddenly left the country in Aug 2013. The statement announcing his press conference had not made any mention of the MQM, with the press conference held at a private residence address in DHA Phase V as the venue.
After his departure, the MQM asked him to quit his senate seat.

The MQM has maintained silence over Kamal's departure from the party. In an interview with Geo last year, MQM supremo Altaf Hussain remained diplomatic when asked about his ties with the former mayor.

MQM MNA Ali Raza Abidi on Twitter said Kamal's return was "the last and final card by Chaudhry Nisar", apparently hinting at a greater game behind the former mayor's return.

MQM leader Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui, reacting to the development last year, questioned the ‘timing’ of the case, terming it "an attempt to malign the MQM".

Kamal is often remembered for being a leader who took initiative during his time as mayor.
American magazine Foreign Policy, had counted Kamal as one of the best mayors in the world.
The magazine described the mayor of Karachi as an unlikely poster child for innovative urban planning.

Mustafa Kamal was the last serving mayor of Karachi and after his departure the Commissionerate system was restored in Sindh province.

Remains to be seen if the Aam Abduls of MQM will "buy" this version from the ex -Mayor !

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 03 Mar 2016 17:46

Pakistan minister rules out rollback of nuke programme - ToI

Pakistan's finance minister on Thursday said that his country will never roll back its nuclear programme despite financial hardship and threat of mounting external debt.

Ishaq Dar was briefing the Senate, the upper house of parliament, on the country's economy.

The Express Tribune reported that Dar dismissed reports about Pakistan bartering away its nuclear arsenal.

"We did not start this (nuclear) programme to roll it back. This is a programme of our security, and it is a national responsibility to protect it. All political parties of Pakistan share the ownership of our nuclear programme," he said.

"Even if our debts swell to USD 100 billion or USD 100 trillion, we will not roll back our nuclear programme," he said.

He referred to a 2008 article in Wall Street Journal headlined 'Let's Buy Pakistan's Nukes' in which the author asked Western donors to agree on a USD 100 billion economic package in exchange for eliminating Pakistan's nuclear stockpile, currently said to be the world's fastest growing.

He mentioned another article which suggested the ever-ballooning debt may lead Pakistan to compromise on its national security assets.

Dar's forceful statement came after US secretary of state John Kerry pressed Pakistan at this week's strategic dialogue in Washington to reduce its nuclear arsenal.

Dar did not mention Kerry's statement but Senate chairman Raza Rabbani asked Adviser to Prime Minister on foreign affairs sartaj Aziz to brief the house on the issue.

Aziz had urged the US not to contribute to "strategic imbalance in South Asia" by aiding India.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 03 Mar 2016 20:26

Karzai blames Pakistan: 9 killed in attack on Indian mission in Afghanistan;

They are simply attacking India’s presence in Afghanistan, whenever they get the opportunity, said Mr. Karzai in an exclusive interview.

In the fourth attack since 2007, terrorists, including suicide bombers, struck the Indian consulate in Jalalabad city of Afghanistan on Wednesday, killing nine persons and causing damage to the chancery.

The External Affairs Ministry in New Delhi said all Indians in the mission were safe and six terrorists, who carried out the attack, were dead. While two terrorists blew themselves up, four militants were killed by the Afghan police. Two civilans were also killed in the crossfire.

MEA spokesperson Vikas Swarup said in New Delhi that the consulate was damaged in the attack.

Karzai points finger at Pakistan

The attack on the Indian consulate in Jalalabad on Wednesday is part of a trend of such attacks launched from Pakistan, said former Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai.
“They are simply attacking India’s presence in Afghanistan, whenever they get the opportunity. The whole spectrum of the India-Afghan relations, the relationship itself, is the target of the attacks”, Mr. Karzai told The Hindu in an exclusive interview in Delhi hours after a suicide squad targeted the Indian mission in Jalalabad.
According to the Afghan police, two persons were killed and 19 injured after Afghan security forces battled a group of gunmen outside the mission, which is in the diplomatic district. The attack began when a suicide bomber detonated a car full of explosives outside the consulate, after which three other assailants were killed by security forces.

The area had been targeted on January 13 as well when nine persons were killed and 12 injured after a suicide bomber struck the diplomatic area. Since the Pakistani consulate was closest to the site of attack, officials had said it was unclear which embassy was the target.
The attack on Wednesday is also the third such major strike on an Indian mission since May 2014, with the last attack on January 3 this year in Mazar i Sharif. In that incident, the ITBP and Afghan forces had fought off the gunmen after battling them for nearly a day as they launched rocket attacks on the mission.
“What is there in the relationship between India and Afghanistan that would irk someone so much that they would come and attack the Indian consulates, or attack Afghanistan”, asked Mr. Karzai during the interview, adding that terror emanating from Pakistan was the single reason for problems between Afghanistan and Pakistan as well.

According to him, there was no possibility Afghans carrying out attacks on Indian missions, including the one in Jalalabad, because of India’s popularity in the country. “There will never be an Afghan-motivated, Afghan-financed attack on Indian interests in Afghanistan. There never was and there can never be, because India is seen as the greatest friend of Afghanistan, historically and today”, he said. However, to a question whether India should increase its security presence in Afghanistan, Mr. Karzai said while it was only natural for Indian personnel to protect Indian missions and interests, there was no other requirement for its presence otherwise at present.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Mar 2016 22:19

wig wrote:on the family of the late Salman Taseer
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20110110/edit.htm#5

Like father, like son by R.K. Kaushik
IN history, sometimes along with human beings institutions also migrate. In the year 1947, one such institution, which migrated from Amritsar to Lahore was Muslim Anglo-Oriental (MAO) College. This college had a very famous Principal, who was also the first person from Punjab to get a PhD in English from Cambridge University of England.

It was one day in the summer of 1937 that he, a bachelor, went for shopping in Hall Bazaar of Amritsar. As ill luck would have it, he forgot his purse in the shop and came back. A British lady by the name of Ms. Christable picked up the purse and went next day to return it to Prof. Mohammed Din in his college.

Since the British lady had also been a Cambridge student, an instant friendship started. May be, that was love at first sight. Later, they decided to get married and their Nikah ceremony was performed by Sir Allama Iqbal.

Prof. Mohammed Din had three children — two daughters followed by a son, who was born in 1946. Christable’s younger sister Alys also started visiting Amritsar and developed a liking for a lecturer of English at MAO College named Faiz Ahmed Faiz. The younger sister followed the elder one and married Faiz.

At the time of Partition, most of the Muslim students and teachers of MAO College of Amritsar moved to Pakistan along with the college. The college itself got shifted to the premises of DAV College of Lahore located in the lower Mall. It still runs there.

Prof Mohammed Din was handsome and a voracious reader, besides being a famous Urdu poet, with the surname of Taseer. He took over the Principalship of Islamia College, Lahore. Prof. Mohammed Din Taseer had an early death in the late 50s. His son and two daughters were brought up by his wife Christable — now converted to Islam with the new name Bilquees. The daughters settled in England after marriage in Muslim families and the son, Salman Taseer, became a chartered accountant. He later joined politics and became a famous leader of the Pakistan People’s Party. He became the Governor of Punjab province of Pakistan in May 2008 and was murdered a few days ago by a fanatic.

Sometimes I think that had Prof Mohammed Din not lost his purse in the shop in Hall Bazaar, Amritsar, and had that not been found by the British damsel, many such events would not have happened.

Salman Taseer was murdered because of his stand on the blasphemy law regarding Holy Prophet. There is a strange coincidence. His father too had praised, defended and arranged for the funeral of Illamddin in 1929 because Illamddin, who had killed Rajpal Malhotra, the owner of Hind Pocket Books and father of former Punjab Governor Surender Nath because of his comments on Holy Prophet.

Maybe being son of a Christian mother might have influenced him to speak for that poor woman accused of blasphemy in Pakisatan..

Also wonder if those English ladies were Dalrymple types with Indian Muslim ancestors. A lot of hanky panky was going on with EIC thinking they were conquerors and not just merchants.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 04 Mar 2016 03:48

Qadri Death Mourned By Mainstream Pakis !
Pakistan's top naat-khwan Owais Qadri recites a prayer for Mumtaz Qadri - says "a Shaheed never dies"
JI Chief Siraj reaches Liaqat Bagh Rawalpindi to attend funeral prayers of Mumtaz Qadri
PMLN MPA from Gujrat crying over #MumtazQadri's death.
Pakistan's minister of state for religious affairs Pir Hasnat Shah praises Mumtaz Qadri and calls him "shaheed"
Captain Safdar Speech for Mumtaz Qadari
#Pakistan bar council announces #BlackDay /
Mumtaz Qadri supporters saying General Raheel Sharif "Hero say Zero Ho Gaya."
Tens of thousands support #MumtazQadri; media blackout isnt the solution, more discussion to dissuade killers needed
Will any action be taken under NAP and POPA against Ummat Akhbar not for reporting but celebrating a terrorist
Pakistan's minister of state for religious affairs praising Salmaan Taseer's killer Mumtaz Qadri - executed Feb 29
The Khateeb of Data Darbar kisses the forehead of Mumtaz Qadri's body!
Where Were They When Their Relatives(Taliban) Attacked #APS & #BKUni! Where's #NAP In The Capital Of #NayaKP?
Sunni's , Shia's , Deobandis , Barelvis unite in defense of Qadri.

Mourners include son-in-law of NS, Federal Cabinet Ministers And Khateeb Of Data Ganj Shrine! shows extent of Qadri's support in Pakiland!!!
There is definitely going to be future repercussions !

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Mar 2016 03:50

Also could be insurance to not get Qadrified.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 04 Mar 2016 03:59

Ghazi ILum Din and Ghazi MuumTaaz Qadri's Shahadat will bring 999% pure islam in Pakistan. An opportunity and great opening with the Janaza speeches for TTP to take leadership role in punishing the military and civilian Qatils. Hope Invincible Pigeon bring in the message of piece to squeeze the beak of Paki Turkey.

arun · Post by **arun** » 04 Mar 2016 11:07

X Posted from the Pakistani Role In Global Terrorism thread.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan via their Advisor to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs, Sartaj Aziz, confirms the well know allegation that the Islamic Republic provides a safe haven for Taliban’s leaders, medical facilities for Taliban members and refuge for their families. The specific words of Sartaj Aziz are “And now, we have some influence on them because their leadership is in Pakistan, and they get some medical facilities, their families are here. So we can use those levers to pressurize them to say: Come to the table.”:

AFP via Yahoo News

CFR Transcript is available here:

A Conversation With Sartaj Aziz

habal · Post by **habal** » 04 Mar 2016 13:03

Falijee wrote:Qadri Death Mourned By Mainstream Pakis !
Pakistan's top naat-khwan Owais Qadri recites a prayer for Mumtaz Qadri - says "a Shaheed never dies"
JI Chief Siraj reaches Liaqat Bagh Rawalpindi to attend funeral prayers of Mumtaz Qadri
PMLN MPA from Gujrat crying over #MumtazQadri's death.
Pakistan's minister of state for religious affairs Pir Hasnat Shah praises Mumtaz Qadri and calls him "shaheed"
Captain Safdar Speech for Mumtaz Qadari
#Pakistan bar council announces #BlackDay /
Mumtaz Qadri supporters saying General Raheel Sharif "Hero say Zero Ho Gaya."
Tens of thousands support #MumtazQadri; media blackout isnt the solution, more discussion to dissuade killers needed
Will any action be taken under NAP and POPA against Ummat Akhbar not for reporting but celebrating a terrorist
Pakistan's minister of state for religious affairs praising Salmaan Taseer's killer Mumtaz Qadri - executed Feb 29
The Khateeb of Data Darbar kisses the forehead of Mumtaz Qadri's body!
Where Were They When Their Relatives(Taliban) Attacked #APS & #BKUni! Where's #NAP In The Capital Of #NayaKP?
Sunni's , Shia's , Deobandis , Barelvis unite in defense of Qadri.

Mourners include son-in-law of NS, Federal Cabinet Ministers And Khateeb Of Data Ganj Shrine! shows extent of Qadri's support in Pakiland!!!
There is definitely going to be future repercussions !

What a tragic day for Pakistan ?

could not have happened to a better people.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 04 Mar 2016 17:09

Karzai Still Calling The Shots In Kabul ?

Per Hajam Sethi- Friday Times :

Recent visitors to Kabul are of the unanimous view that although President Ashraf Ghani won the last elections, and has been duly installed in the Presidential Palace in Afghanistan’s capital, the real ruler of the country is someone else. Someone who’s already “been there, done that”. None other than the former President, Mr Kay. Citing insecurity, they say Mr Kay has commandeered a part of the Presidential Palace and lives there permanently. We’ve also heard that the cabinet regularly kow-tows to Mr Kay and seeks his advice. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 04 Mar 2016 17:30

Pakis Complain That They Are Given A Hard Time At Kabul Airport
Historical baggage at Kabul airport
A parliamentarian’s experience reveals the deep mistrust between Pakistan and Afghanistan

Parliamentarian Shazia Marri’s recent experience at the Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul shows how Pakistan and Afghanistan have a heavy baggage of historical acrimony and mutual suspicion to deal with.
Ms Shazia Marri flew from Karachi to Kabul – via Dubai – on March 1, to participate in the Pakistan-Afghanistan Beyond Boundaries Track II initiative. The organizers couldn’t make it to the protocol to receive her because the entire airport and the road leading to it had been literally sealed off due to two VVIP movements. Marri approached the immigration desk on her own. But to her surprise, the immigration officer got into an awkward, unwarranted microscopic scrutiny of her official passport. Meanwhile, he let an Indian passenger through with a wink, according to the member of Pakistan’s National Assembly. He began to ask her why the phrase “double entry” was handwritten. “He also tried to fault the visa, issued by the Afghan Embassy in Islamabad, on other flimsy grounds, holding me up for nearly 25 minutes,” an upset Shazia Marri recalled on the sidelines of the meeting.

But there is a background to how the Afghans view Pakistanis today. Afghanistan voted against Pakistan’s United Nations membership nearly seven decades ago. And the Afghans remember Pakistan’s role in the anti-Soviet jihad and the War on Terror – both led by the US. For some Afghans, Pakistan has become the “near enemy”,.... (the author is being economical with the truth when he does not mention the so-called "strategic depth theory" and the use of Afghan territory for that purpose !)

My discussions with politicians, intellectuals and journalists revealed why Pakistan’s image in Afghanistan is so negative. Most Afghans view the country with extreme skepticism, at times with disdain, because they believe Pakistan wields enough clout with the Afghan Taliban to deliver, and even neutralize the insurgency in Afghanistan, if it so desired. - (they want a pro Paki PLUS anti India govt in power in Kabul !)

Dislike of Pakistan runs deep, particularly in the Afghan establishment. A dominant majority of Afghan politicians and commentators even refrain from linking the country with so much of the physical infrastructure projects – such as hospitals and educational institutions in Kabul, Jalalabad and Mazar-i-Sharif – that Pakistan has helped build.

Islamabad seems to be caught up in the Shakespearian dilemma – to do or not to do that is the question. It is criticized if it helps in persuading the Taliban to join peace talks, and it is criticized if it doesn’t.

That is why the role of the media is a recurring topic in bilateral dialogue, as an essential tool for correcting perceptions and shaping narratives

One would assume that a “lone wolf” at the immigration desk of the Kabul airport merely vented his personal anger when he was embarrassing the Pakistani parliamentarian. One would also hope that the Afghan government, working so closely with Islamabad in the reconciliation process right now, would move swiftly to prevent such occurrences. A coordinated voice from the top can certainly help improve the narrative on Pakistan – something that is mutually beneficial and can help mitigate the woes of tens of millions of people on both sides of the Durand Line.

As long as Pakistan and its proxies continue to resort to terrorism ( as in the recent attack on the Indian Consulate ) to install an anti-India/ pro Pak regime in Kabul, the Afghans will continue in their"dislike of Pakistan"

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 04 Mar 2016 18:24

A Japanese perspective on Japan-Pakistan relations, Gwadar, etc.

Over the past several months while trying to learn more about why Japan is cautious about allowing migrants from Muslim countries into Japan, it seems that Japan has had a very long relationship with Pakistan. This might explain why there are so many people from Pakistan in Japan many working in the automotive industry

...however, since most Japanese would never tolerate a multi-cultural society, Pakistanis in Japan face many obstacles as well as discrimination. I think Islam in Japan for now pretty much remains a marginal issue, but one which still has the potential to develop in many directions, particularly related to Japan’s energy needs. Most foreign Muslims probably come to Japan for economic opportunity and the peaceful stability of Japanese society. A brief summary (diplomatic speak) of the Pakistan-Japan relationship:

My impression is that most Japanese are indifferent to the existence of Muslim migrants in their country, and that it isn’t very likely the Japanese will become interested in Islam considering all the news coverage of Islam being “connected to terrorism”. For the time being, Japan’s relationship with Islam seems to be very odd especially considering Japan’s response to the “war on terrorism”. But only “odd” up until Japan’s need for energy and resource requirements, like from the region of Balochistan in Pakistan. Most people don’t have a clue about this region of Pakistan particularly the Japanese unless it is in energy and resource diplomacy. Diplomatically, Japan has a key interest in maintaining stable relations with Balochistan as evidenced by continuing technological, engineering, management and science exchanges.

As admitted by Japan, their only interest in becoming involved in infrastructure development is for the major reason of being able to exploit Balochistan’s energy and mineral resources as discussed in a Tribune article published in March, 2015. Japan releases ODA funds for infrastructure in Pakistan with very little released for Balochistan because of what Japan refers to as the “law and order situation.” Instead of repatriating profits from Japan’s activities in Balochistan, why doesn’t Japan retain those profits inside Balochistan to continue local improvements in education and security like Japan claims it is doing?

According to Pepe Escobar, “Balochistan is the ultimate prize” in the region with the incredibly important deep water port constructed by the Chinese at Gwadar. Pepe Escobar writes: “China – which built Gwadar and needs gas from Iran – must be sidelined by all means necessary. The added paranoid Pentagon component is that China could turn Gwadar into a naval base and thus ‘threaten’ the Arabian Sea and the Indian Ocean.” In fact, Gwadar is the world’s deepest natural sea port unlike the contemporary ports in Iran and Dubai and has the capacity of berthing 88 ships between 1,00,000 – 2,00,000 DWT (dead weight tonnage). Imagine for a moment China decides to park several nuclear powered submarines ...

For years I have been listening to lectures given by Sheikh Imran Hosein (Pro Paki and Anti-India Mullah of Caribbean origin) who I have come to respect and admire. In this lecture, he suggests that if China loses the port of Gwadar in Balochistan, that China will cease to exist as an empire. That might be true but not because of oil which is hard finding good information on as to how much oil is potentially in Balochistan. And just so that everyone knows, the people in Balochistan are taking a brutal beating by the Pakistan army with killings going on almost daily.
Why China doesn’t want the independence of Balochistan

Sabyasachi · Post by **Sabyasachi** » 04 Mar 2016 18:27

Peregrine wrote:Asia Cup in Bangladesh :

PAK 129/7 (20.0 Ovs)
BAN 131/5 (19.1 Ovs)

Bangladesh beat Pakistan and will now play India in the Finals
Cheers

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3vpj1 ... -2016_news

Kufur Songs playing in background.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 04 Mar 2016 18:43

Paki Journo Says That Nawaz Sharif Is Showing Liberal Tendencies

How did Nawaz Sharif become a liberal?

On February 29th, Mumtaz Qadri — the ELITE Force commando who shot down the then governor of Punjab, Salmaan Taseer — was hanged after the Supreme Court (SC) of Pakistan upheld the decision of the lower courts in favour of execution and the President of Pakistan turned down his plea for mercy. With that, we can conclude that justice is finally served and the soul of Salmaan Taseer can now rest in peace.

On February 24th, Punjab Assembly passed a comprehensive bill for the Protection of Women Against Violence. The bill not only redefines violence unleashed upon women, it also promises to provide shelters for them and set up a system to resolve the conflict between the couple through mediation. It will also open a 24/7 helpline where any female can file a complaint. (the mullahs have threatened to "derail" the govt on this Act )

A day earlier in Islamabad A Girl in the River: the Price of Forgiveness — which on February 29 won the Academy Award for Short Subject Documentary Film — by Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy was screened in the Prime Minister House upon the request of Mian Nawaz Sharif. After watching the movie he said, “There is no honour in honour killings,” and promised the audience that he would do everything to end all kinds of discrimination and violence against women

I could not have believed this in a hundred years. Throughout his political career, I have found him standing on the right of the centre, e.g. hugging the former Ameer of Jamat-e-Islami Qazi Hussain Ahmad, and reassuring him that he intended to implement Shariah Law.

So, what has happened to him? How did he transform himself into the flag bearer of liberal values? I have tried to unfurl the mystery for a while, but unable to find a definitive answer, unfortunately, I had to rely upon conjectures in building my theory.
At present, what we know so far is that this change in Sharif is neither new nor temporary. We began to see the glimpses of a modern man almost a decade ago when he went to England and signed the Charter of Democracy with Benzair Bhutto after living in Saudi Arabia for five years. Before Saudi Arabia, he spent almost a year in jail. We do not know much about that time, except for rumours that he was depressed and broken. However, prior to his incarceration, he was committed to follow his Islamic agenda, pushing the Senate to pass the 15th Amendment in the constitution that would have resulted in the implementation of the Shariah Law. But that did not happen, thanks to the Pakistan People’s Party and other parties of the opposition, and he had to back off.

So, in my opinion, this miracle of ‘moderate enlightenment’ must have happened either in Adiala Jail or in Saudi Arabia. Though he must have had a lot of time to ponder in jail, if you ask me I would say the seed of his ‘enlightenment’ was sowed in the Kingdom rather than the solitude of confinement. That is because he must have closely observed the real implementation of the Shariah in Saudi Arabia, the duplicity and lavish lifestyles of the royal family, and their arrogance and absence of morality. Looking at the empty rhetoric and watching the human rights violations carried out by the Kingdom in the name of Islam, he must have imagined the future of Pakistan under a similar regime. (but then he also "cemented" his ties further by his marriage alliance with the Saudi Royals !)It could have been the future in which he was not carrying the stick himself, and instead it was held by one of his rivals. That must have caused him to shudder and would have opened his heart and eyes. Or perhaps, he found the royal family’s tunnel vision of Islam to be the source of destabilisation in the Muslim world and decided to do just the opposite if he came to power, who knows.

If my theory is true, then we should also send the chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, Imran Khan, on a pilot project as the state guest of Saudi Arabia and let him watch the atrocities of the state unleashed on the common people. I am thinking, on his return he would also have transformed into a more rounded politician, a person who considers feelings of others before he calls them names and hurls unfounded accusations at them.( I second that motion! )

IMO NS remains an Islamist, !

arun · Post by **arun** » 04 Mar 2016 21:32

X Posted from the India-US Relations thread.

Michael Rubin, Resident Scholar at the American Enterprises Institute (AEI) points out that at the Raisina Dialogue in New Delhi, Adm. Harry B. Harris, Jr., the commander of US Pacific Command, “avoided the question with some blanket language about how US policy isn’t a zero sum game, rather than explain or defend the Obama administration’s decision to sell Pakistan advanced fighter jets.”. He then goes on to say that “The simple fact is that Pakistan doesn’t need F-16s to counter terrorism; it needs F-16s to mount attacks against India.”

Read it all;

Cancel F-16 sale to Pakistan

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 04 Mar 2016 21:50

Axact earned over $205 million through selling fake degrees: FIA report

KARACHI:
Nine months after the case against Axact was registered, the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) submitted the charge sheet in court on Wednesday, accusing 19 top management employees of running an international education scam.

Axact, a software house situated in an upscale area of Karachi, has been alleged of fraudulently making billions of dollars by deceiving people in the name of awarding degrees of fake colleges and universities through online learning programmes.
FIA illegally shut down Axact: CEO’s wife
The final investigation report states that between 2010 and 2015, around 240,000 students of different countries were issued diplomas and degrees of fake American universities, which never existed in the USA. In these five years, the company managed to earn more than $205 million.
The bogus status of these educational institutions were confirmed by the US authorities and during the course it appeared that Axact had set up three shell companies in the region with the name of Mivvel Inc, Tullow Inc and Tinko Inc, the report revealed.
The amount in return of the fake certificates was deposited in the accounts of these companies and their ownership has been confirmed by the accused persons.
Among the 19 suspects nominated, 14 including the company’s chief executive Shoaib Shaikh and his lieutenant Viqas Atique, are in jail on judicial remand. Four more are absconding while Shoaib’s wife, Ayesha, is on bail.
2.2m fake degress recovered from Axact offices: FIA
The additional sessions judge-V of Karachi South district accepted the charge sheet and adjourned the hearing till the third week of March.
The court also asked the FIA’s assistant director, Saeed Ahmed Memon, investigating the case, to produce the witnesses on the next hearing date.
The case is registered under sections 182, 201, 383, 409, 418,419, 420, 466, 467, 468, 471, 472, 473, 474, 476, 477-A, 109 and 34 of the Pakistan Penal Code read with sections 36 and 37 of the Electronic Ordinance at the FIA Corporate Crime Circle, Karachi.

As has been earlier reported, AXACT "University" is ultimately owned by Dawood Ebrahim; so, from the above, only the "small fry" are indicted to "protect" the Big Fish and his associates in the" Deep State "

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Mar 2016 06:27

Falijee wrote:A Japanese perspective on Japan-Pakistan relations, Gwadar, etc.

A lot of nonsense also written there.

arun · Post by **arun** » 05 Mar 2016 06:55

X Posted from the “Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan” thread.

A case of Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religious based sectarian oppression in Sunni Mohammadden majority Islamic Republic of Pakistan sees minority Shia Mohammadden man sentenced to 13 years imprisonment “for posting objectionable material against the belief of Sunni Muslims”:

25-year-old sentenced to 13 years in prison over 'religiously offensive' Facebook post