https://twitter.com/vkthakur/status/713560620872962048In a first, @Rostec_Russia is plugging 280km range Iskander-E at DefExpo2016. Missile can strike moving targets, which Brahmos cannot.
Iskander uses EO which is better at identifying ground targets compared to radar based seeker. Unlike the sea there may be multiple similar targets which would be a big change to brahmos and RCS of moving target like a jeep is smaller than even patrol boats.SajeevJino wrote:https://twitter.com/vkthakur/status/713560620872962048In a first, @Rostec_Russia is plugging 280km range Iskander-E at DefExpo2016. Missile can strike moving targets, which Brahmos cannot.
strange ..then how can the Brahmos strikes warships sailing at the speed of 30 knots, can anyone enlighten me ..!!
Do you get a kick by peddling such nonsense and making idiotic claims? Especially, when facts fly in face of your constant stream of BS?Gyan wrote:Army has been dragging its feet on ordering additional Pinaka Launchers since One decade. Actual contracts for Pinaka Regiments after the first two are still to be signed.
Actually IMO there are 3 reg. of pinaka in IA right now, something around 80 in number. L&T and TATA made 40 of each.Gyan wrote:Projected reuirements but no contracts for them actually signed or entered beyond first two.
The United States has expressed concern over India’s recent test-launch of a ballistic missile capable of carrying nuclear warheads.
India successfully fired a nuclear-capable K-4 ballistic missile from a submerged platform in the Bay of Bengal earlier in March.
"We are concerned by any nuclear and missile developments that could potentially increase the risk to nuclear security risk or lower the threshold for nuclear use," US State Department spokesman Mark Toner was quoted as saying by NDTV on Friday.
"So we continue to urge all states with nuclear weapons to exercise restraint regarding their missile and nuclear capabilities," he added.
The 10-meter missile with a weight of 20 tons has a reported range of up to 3,500 kilometers (2,174 miles) and can carry a payload of more than 2,000 kilogram (4,400 pounds).
According to Toner, Washington has raised its concerns with India over New Delhi’s missile program and the effect it may have on the security of the region.
"I do not want to get into specifics of our bilateral conversations with India, but we have long encouraged efforts to promote confidence building, stability, and discourage any actions that might destabilize the region," he had said earlier.
India conducted another test in mid-December, firing an Agni-I missile from a mobile launcher on the Abdul Kalam Island, located approximately 150 kilometers from Bhubaneshwar, the capital of the eastern state of Odisha.
The 15-meter-long Agni-I is capable of carrying warheads weighing more than 1,000 kilograms.
In January last year, India tested an Agni-V missile, its longest-range nuclear-capable ballistic missile with the capacity to strike China and Europe.
The 17-meter-long intercontinental ballistic missile has a range of more than 5,000 kilometers (3,100 miles).
Its more likely to have been delayed on technical grounds. India hasn't invested all this time and resources to just scrap the program; tests are inevitable. That's something the USG/SD knows as well, being more bothered with the North Korean and Iranian programs.sum wrote:^^ But the A-5 test of 1st week of March didnt happen. So guess part of the pressure seems to have worked
Exactly!Viv S wrote:Its more likely to have been delayed on technical grounds. India hasn't invested all this time and resources to just scrap the program; tests are inevitable. That's something the USG/SD knows as well, being more bothered with the North Korean and Iranian programs.sum wrote:^^ But the A-5 test of 1st week of March didnt happen. So guess part of the pressure seems to have worked
With respect to India, they'll provide the minimum level of vague lip-service required when prodded by the media, but aren't stupid enough to expend valuable political capital by trying to actually do something about it, an exercise in futility.
Four Countries Negotiating Purchase of Russian-Indian BrahMos Missiles
http://sputniknews.com/science/20160328 ... z44BlZp1WQ
"Defense export is a very sensitive subject, we cannot say much without permission of our governments. However, I can say that currently consultations are being held with four foreign countries," Mishra told RIA Novosti during the Defexpo India 2016.
Russian-Indian PAK FA May Be Armed With BrahMos Cruise Missiles
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We are presenting BrahMos to many Indian public and private defense companies, from some of them we get a technical job. We presented it also to developers of the FGFA — they asked to adjust the size of the missile, so it can be placed on board the aircraft. Such work is ongoing," Mishra told RIA Novosti during the exhibition Defexpo India 2016.
And who is to blame for lack of orders? Army or MOD?Gyan wrote:Projected reuirements but no contracts for them actually signed or entered beyond first two.
Your conspiracy theories would make some sense if you made at least some effort to think through them...and not pull them out of your Musharraf!Gyan wrote:<SNIP>My conspiracy theory is that Pinaka is being screwed by Grad upgrade and Smerch Import lobby. What has happened to Pinaka-III which was direct competitor to Smerch? Why no action on Prahaar which can take on some roles, of super costly Fake JV Brahmos?
Ever wonder why Army is not interested in FICV of either DRDO or to award Make In India contract to a Pvt Sector Company? Because upgrade deal of BMP is being pushed for many years whose cost would be equivalent to a new FICV.
Grand total of 5 GRAD Regiments + 3 x Smerch + 2 x Pinaka.srai wrote:How many rocket artillery regiments are there in total in the IA? What's the total planned under artillery reorganization and expansion? That would put 22 planned Pinaka regiments in perspective.
I guess, if I'm not wrong, that figure is for SA-6 not Akash. Further it is always said it can engage targets flying at the height of tree top + there is a live demo of the such low level engagement by Akash in utube. No exact figures are released for Akash SAM, to my knowledge.srai wrote:Low-level Quick Reaction Missile (LLQRM) are designed more specifically to take on terrain-hugging cruise missiles (and possibly other low-flying aircraft) that show up on the radars much closer to their intended targets. The reaction time for defensive system is not much. They need to have reaction time (detection/lock-on/firing) of less than 5-10 seconds. I think Akash's reaction time is around 10-15 seconds.Prem Kumar wrote:Sorry if this sounds ignorant. But what exact benefit does the QRSAM or LLQRSAM offer that the Akash doesn't? Isn't Akash somewhere between an SRSAM and an MRSAM + mobile?
Even for the Navy, if Barak-8's min engagement envelope is very low, what's the need for a new missile type? Is it for ships which will not have the Barak installed?
Secondly, the LLQRM needs to be able to intercept targets flying very very low (less than 30 meters [100 feet]). The minimum engagement height of Akash is around 30 meters. To increase effectiveness, LLQRM would need to have some of its sensor assets on a aerostat-type of platform with look-down radars.
As far as Navy goes, Barak-8 will be installed on larger platforms, such as destroyers, frigates and aircraft carriers, with long-ranged sensors. SRSAM would be installed on smaller-sized ships i.e. corvettes. Like Barak-8, they would also need to be able to intercept sea-skimming anti-ship missiles. Due to its smaller footprint, SRSAM could also double up on destroyers and frigates as secondary SAM system.
PS: QRSAM and SRSAM are meant for different requirements for Indian Army. But specs wise both are more or less same.Similarly, the army says that, with the supply of DRDO’s Akash and Akash-2 surface-to-air missile, they are dropping the planned import of a short-range surface-to-air-missile (SR-SAM).
Another useless attention seeking drama from NDTV. 'News traders' is the right description.dinesha wrote:Washington 'worried' over India missile test
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/03/26 ... ssile-AgniThe United States has expressed concern over India’s recent test-launch of a ballistic missile capable of carrying nuclear warheads.
India successfully fired a nuclear-capable K-4 ballistic missile from a submerged platform in the Bay of Bengal earlier in March.
"We are concerned by any nuclear and missile developments that could potentially increase the risk to nuclear security risk or lower the threshold for nuclear use," US State Department spokesman Mark Toner was quoted as saying by NDTV on Friday.
"So we continue to urge all states with nuclear weapons to exercise restraint regarding their missile and nuclear capabilities," he added.
The 10-meter missile with a weight of 20 tons has a reported range of up to 3,500 kilometers (2,174 miles) and can carry a payload of more than 2,000 kilogram (4,400 pounds).
According to Toner, Washington has raised its concerns with India over New Delhi’s missile program and the effect it may have on the security of the region.
"I do not want to get into specifics of our bilateral conversations with India, but we have long encouraged efforts to promote confidence building, stability, and discourage any actions that might destabilize the region," he had said earlier.
India conducted another test in mid-December, firing an Agni-I missile from a mobile launcher on the Abdul Kalam Island, located approximately 150 kilometers from Bhubaneshwar, the capital of the eastern state of Odisha.
The 15-meter-long Agni-I is capable of carrying warheads weighing more than 1,000 kilograms.
In January last year, India tested an Agni-V missile, its longest-range nuclear-capable ballistic missile with the capacity to strike China and Europe.
The 17-meter-long intercontinental ballistic missile has a range of more than 5,000 kilometers (3,100 miles).
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The Indian Army has carried out the final validation trial of the first off production models of the Akash supersonic missile from the Integrated Test Range (ITR), Balasore, Odisha, India.
During the trial, the domestically built medium-range anti-aircraft missile successfully intercepted the very small and fast-moving unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), Banshee, at 30m altitude above sea level, confirming the system's capability against subsonic cruise missiles.
While the low flying target was continuously tracked throughout its course by the missile's advanced multi-function radar, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO)-built special algorithms / techniques for overcoming the multiple target reflections coming from the sea worked perfectly in the mission.
The successful trial delivers the surface-to-air missile for induction into the army.
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The SR-SAM programme was all but sunk last year when the Indian Air Force said the Indian Akash SAM it deployed was sufficient for the short range air defence role, and that it didn't feel the need for a separate SR-SAM. The Akash SAM being a DRDO success means the latter is now perceived to have little or no incentive to partner with MBDA on the SR-SAM, but simply to continue working on the Akash and extend its range and capabilities for an anticipated Mk.2 version that the IAF and Indian Army are reportedly keen on.
Anticipating that situation, MBDA opened discussions late last year with DRDO, offering that the proposed SR-SAM, could be, in effect the Akash Mk.2 in terms of capability. The Akash SAM in service sports a range of 25-km, while the proposed SR-SAM is intended to hit targets out to a maximum of 40-km. It isn't clear just yet what the DRDO will choose to do. At any rate, the success of the Akash programme, and a rare public show of satisfaction from the forces gives DRDO more options, though the time factor could be key in a decision going forward.
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is already tom-tomming its ongoing development of a 10-kilowatt DEW against UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle) like targets, with "the establishment of critical technologies of precision tracking/pointing and laser beam combination".
The "system" has been tested up to a range of 800 meters at its Hyderabad-based Centre for High Energy Systems and Sciences (CHESS), and was also demonstrated to the armed forces at the Terminal Ballistics Research Laboratory's firing range at Ramgarh (Haryana) in September last year.
The DRDO's Laser Science & Technology Centre is working on an array of systems from "chemical oxygen iodine lasers" to "high-power fiber lasers" for st-rategic uses, which includes a 25-kilowatt laser to take on a ballistic missile du-ring its "terminal phase" at a distance of 5-7 km.
All this has gained momentum after the government in February 2014 sanctioned Rs 115 crore for de-velopment of "experimental technology modules for directed energy laser syst-ems" by CHESS, with the project completion date being set for July 2017.
They may be talking about smaller artillery rockets 122mm/244mm/300mm.brar_w wrote:Taking out a ballistic missile in its terminal phase, with a 25-killowatt laser at a distance of 5-7 km? Poor reporting I guess.
I guess "tree-top height" would be open to interpretationKanson wrote:... Repeated statements I could recall from officials is that it can engage targets flying at tree-top level height. ...
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Probably. Terminal ballistic missile defense using a DEW is impractical for some very obvious reasons. Even that aside, SHORAAD DEW against an incoming RV is a non-starter. Your not going to get a chance to destroy a hardened RV, that is purpose designed to survive atmosphere re-entry in the few seconds it gets you and that too from the ground where the challenges of shooting something at altitude are enormous. You aren't going to get altitude coverage by basing a DEW on the ground so even if they get a more powerful DEW, altitude challenges would still exist. The only legitimate approaches to adopting DEW's in ABM systems is to shoot them down in the boost phase, and to deploy them in space (which may also be impractical).srai wrote:They may be talking about smaller artillery rockets 122mm/244mm/300mm.brar_w wrote:Taking out a ballistic missile in its terminal phase, with a 25-killowatt laser at a distance of 5-7 km? Poor reporting I guess.
DRDO is also working on an advanced version of Akash (Akash NG) which will have a maximum strike capability of up to 50 km.