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Postby srai » 20 Mar 2016 05:49

Karan M wrote:A litmus test for Astra as it finishes trial

TOI Jaipur Mon,14 Mar 2016

Jodhpur: Iron Fist 2016, the Indian Air Force exercise in the Pokhran deserts, will prove to be a litmus test for Astra, the Beyond-Visual-Range Air-to-Air Missile (BVRAAM), which having successfully completed its user trials including those for its seekers will be officially fired for the first time on March 18 in full public view, including the presence of Prime Minister Narendra Modi.As per Dr K Jayaraman, director, Defence Research & Development Laboratory (DRDL), Hyderabad, the primary development agency for Astra the development and trials of the missile having been put on a fast track and the missile shall go into production by year end.Paving its way for induction into the Indian Air Force, March 18 will be the day when India would move closer to being equipped with a missile power comparable to only a few in the world when Astra would be fired from a Su-30 aircraft here.


Which it did.

Dr Jayaraman said that recently the Radio Frequency (RF) Seeker performance trials have successfully spelled out Astra's capability to lock-on before launch. He further said that Astra's capability with respect to undergoing manoeuvres involving very high gravitational forces upto the order of 30-Gs, engaging Lakshya (pilotless aircraft) target with precision, firing from various altitudes (from sea level to 20 kms) at different Mach speeds and RF seekers capable to engage targets during the terminal stage requiring no guidance etc has already been tested successfully.

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Astra can be fired at both sub-sonic speeds and super-sonic speeds
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Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 386616.cms


That's one big hole in the IAF's arsenal being plugged. Hopefully, we get to see integration with LCA soon afterwards along with MiG-29/K and Mirage-2000. About time we see standardization on indigenous solutions rather than new import platform requiring new import weapons.
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Postby shaun » 20 Mar 2016 06:27

air launch trial with actual warhead is pending .

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Postby Surya » 20 Mar 2016 06:49

movement in arty is still like molasses - tracked, trucked, towed -- all

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Postby Gyan » 20 Mar 2016 11:39

Integration of BVR missile like Astra with Radar, INS, HUD, MFD, HOTAS, HMCS, IFF, data link, MAAWS, Jammers, DIRCM etc is a non trivial very complicated task.

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Postby kit » 20 Mar 2016 13:13

Karan M wrote:TATA gets into the TOT+radar game.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/new ... 370897.ece

Tata arm is L1 bidder for Navy’s radar project
Amrita Nair-Ghaswalla

Competitors question the offer
Mumbai, March 18:

Nova Integrated Systems, a subsidiary of Tata Advanced Systems Ltd, has emerged the lowest bidder for the Surface Surveillance Radar (SSR) project of the Indian Navy.

TASL had participated in the indigenous radar procurement programme under the Indian defence procurement guidelines. However, competing companies in the Indian Navy’s tender have been questioning the low bid.

Seven domestic firms had participated in the June 2013 tender, including Mahindra, Larsen & Toubro and Bharat Electronics.

A total of 31 SSRs and one SSR training simulator are scheduled to be acquired at a cost of over $300 million. As part of the tender, Indian firms partnered with foreign companies to procure technology.

Sukaran Singh, Chief Executive Officer, TASL, said it would be the first private Indian company to undertake final and full assembly of the military radar, and that it was the first procurement by the Defence Ministry under the ‘Buy and Make (Indian)’ category of the Defence Procurement Procedure.


Strategic partnership

Pointing out that TASL is approaching its vision with a three-fold strategy participation in radar procurement programmes, Singh said the firm has strategic technology partnerships with leading global radar manufacturers and is establishing modern manufacturing and development facilities.

Danish defence major Terma has a strategic partnership with TASL.

Terma’s partnership with TASL developed further after jointly bidding for the SSR programme, as the company moved ahead in the area of Naval Combat Management Systems.

In partnership with TASL, Terma has established a development centre in Noida, for the design and development of Combat Management Systems.


Other collaborations

Denmark-based Terma is a leader in naval and coastal surveillance radars.

The partnership envisages full transfer of technology. (For assembly or real manufacturing from subsystem level?)

Terma also has a seven-year-old relationship with Bharat Electronics Limited, and is collaborating in various fields of defence technology.

BEL is the primary integrator and supplier of defence electronics to the armed forces.

BEL and Terma cooperate on naval radar technology and aircraft self-protection.

Singh added that Nova has partnered with Terma “to undertake manufacturing, integration and testing on Navy vessels of the proven Scanter radar system, under transfer of technology in India.” Incidentally, Thales Nederland, the Dutch arm of Thales International, and TASL have jointly proposed Smart-L radar, based on Active Electronically Scanned Array, for the Indian Navy and Indian Air Force.



Isnt there a controversy regarding how low it was bid ?!!

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Postby Karan M » 20 Mar 2016 14:26

Why quote the entire post to repeat a statement made in the opening line?:)
Parrikar has said motivated complaints will no longer be used to delay. Lets see if it applies.

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Postby shiv » 20 Mar 2016 15:48

csaurabh wrote:
shiv wrote:This is what a dying production line looks like. They have to pre-order "certain parts and last-time buys of components going out of production". This is in Yumrika. This is in the context of "producing everything in India"

It is also an indicator of how important arms sales are to the top economies of the world. The richest countries of the wrold maintain a large percentage of their standard of living by promoting and supporting wars. India's "Principled stand" about wars means jackshit in this world


Do arms sales really contribute that much? I get the impression that total arms sales by the USA is much less than what it spends for its development and its own military. This keeps the arms suppliers (MIC ) running, but at the cost of its taxpayers. I don't see how this can be a good thing.

You bring up insights that make me jump into arcane philosophical muses. We could probably make an interesting discussion out of this - but as I see it, even the capitalist knows that not everyone in a nation is motivated by money alone. Or maybe I ought to reword that and say that the capitalist knows that better than anyone else. Give people a cause like "fight the Nazis" or "fight the commies" or fight the kafirs and you then have a mass of sheeple who will sacrifice large parts of their lives working for peanuts or overworking for no extra pay while profits go elsewhere.

If the wars can be fought by someone else - using the arms you make that is fine, or else you have to support a war, diplomatically, financially and militarily. Every European industrial nation has done this and still does it, as does the US. Unfortunately for us in India - we have been hobbled by people like Nehru who thought all wars would end and peace would reign after WW2, and Gandhi who felt that armed forces should be disbanded, and a government that took over from the Brits and continued being suspicious of men in arms in India or people making arms in India.

The west played its role in praising Gandhi to the high heavens - hoodwinking our cargo culters that the west actually subscribed to notions like world peace and development. None of that is true. Old paradigms established many milleniums ago still hold true - powerful armed forces, powerful navies, access to resources are all essential for the stable, happy nation state. Many in that nation state will prosper, but not all. Cutting down on arms to attempt to make everyone prosper is a mistake.

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Postby Vipul » 21 Mar 2016 16:51

DRDO scientists build sensor to detect radiation levels.

Scientists at the Defence Research and Development Organisation's Jodhpur laboratory have developed a sensor that can detect radiation levels in case of any nuclear accident. 'Derald Nuclear', the sensor, which can be fitted on a drone, can detect gamma radiation from the height of 50 metres.

"This perhaps is the only equipment that can detect radiation from radioactive substances this way," said S R Vadera, Outstanding Scientist and Director, Defence Laboratory, Jodhpur. "Take for example Mayapuri where a radioactive leak was detected. In such an event, the equipment can be flown over the area and we can easily pinpoint the source of the radiation," Vadera added.

The DRDO showcased 'Derald Nuclear' at the IronFist 2016, a triennial event of the Indian Air Force in the desert of Pokhran in Rajasthan.

The indigenously developed sensors, along with its electric circuit, weighs only 20-22 gms. In this case, the sensors are fitted over Netra drone, another indigenously built light-weight UAV for surveillance and reconnaissance operations. The equipment costs around Rs 20,000.

Building sensors like this is important considering India's increasing nuclear endeavours.

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Postby member_29350 » 21 Mar 2016 18:14

http://corporates.bseindia.com/xml-data ... 171158.pdf

Astra Microwave conf call has interesting details on uttam, LRSAM,.T/R modules and their current order book. lots of interesting info and importantly what is pretty known, from order to delivery is pretty much 3+ years.

This should probably go into the Radar thread too

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Postby jayasimha » 21 Mar 2016 19:46

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/drdo ... 24872.html

DRDO develops thermal imaging radar to look through walls
The Through Barrier Imaging Radar, named Divyachakshu (divine eye), has been developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation's (DRDO) Electronics and Radar Development Establishment (LRDE) based in Bengaluru and is going through development trials now.


IANS
New Delhi, March 21, 2016 | Posted by Bijaya Kumar Das | UPDATED 20:35 IST
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In what can prove to be a great aid for the Indian forces in dealing with hostage situations, India's premier government R&D body DRDO has developed a radar that can look through a wall.
The Through Barrier Imaging Radar, named Divyachakshu (divine eye), has been developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation's (DRDO) Electronics and Radar Development Establishment (LRDE) based in Bengaluru and is going through development trials now.
It can look though walls of 20-30 cm thickness made of any material, by using thermal imaging.
"The radar can produce images from the other side of the barrier up to a distance of 20 metres. It catches the thermal signatures and movements in a room can be clearly seen," a scientist working on the project told IANS on condition of anonymity.
The radar tracks heat on the other side of the wall and gives real time thermal image, which can disclose the movement, number of people and other important information about the situation on the other side of the barrier.
"In a hostage situation, the radar can help give an idea about the number of people inside the room and their movement," the scientists said.
According to experts, the nature of movements can help in locating the terrorists and differentiating them from the hostage.
The development of the radar was triggered by the Mumbai terror attack of November 2008, where terrorists took hostages at several locations, including hotel Taj Mahal, Oberoi Trident and Nariman House.
The device will also prove useful in situations such as the recent attacks in Gurdaspur, Punjab, where terrorists entered the Dina Nagar police station, or the Pathankot airbase and two of the terrorists went on to hide in a building.
The project was started in 2010 and the development trials are expected to conclude by the year end.
"We are looking at the Army, the BSF and paramilitary forces as the buyers," the scientist said.
The Indian Army at present does not have such an equipment

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Postby jayasimha » 21 Mar 2016 19:49

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp ... 378837.ece

DRDO to open 5,000-acre range in Chitradurga by mid-year

A part of the 5,000-acre DRDO Aeronautical Test Range at Chitradurga is now ready to be inaugurated around June.

It will begin activities for a few flight projects in about six months and expand the range in stages, a top DRDO official said here on Saturday.

The ATR, costing a total of Rs. 2,500 crore, is being developed at Challakere taluk of Chitradurga, about 200 km from here.

K. Tamilmani, Director-General (Aero R&D) who heads the dozen or so labs of the DRDO aeronautical cluster, said on the sidelines of a seminar that runway, air traffic control tower and test installations together costing Rs. 350 crore had been constructed at the campus.

With this, the DRDO can start testing some of the indigenous products being developed, including the naval and trainer versions of the Light Combat Aircraft, the unmanned air vehicles Rustom 1 and 2; and the Airborne Early Warning & Control Systems meant for surveillance.

Apart from the DRDO, the Chitradurga multi-agency mega complex will house facilities of Bhabha Atomic Research Centre, Indian Space Research Organisation and the Indian Institute of Science. Dr. Tamilmani said the DRDO had estimated that its aeronautical segment alone would need critical, high-value test facilities worth Rs. 10,000 crore over the next 10 years for various indigenous plans. They include an aerodynamic test facility, an engine test facility and test ranges for aircraft and helicopters that were under development. A 26-acre engine test facility costing Rs. 1,500 crore was planned at Rajanukunte near Bengaluru.

The seminar was organised by the NGO, Engineering India foundation, and Bengaluru-based computer simulation technology based company Pro-SIM

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Postby member_28880 » 21 Mar 2016 20:02

Karan M wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 465947.cms

The two projects headed for CCS nod are for two more Pinaka MLRS regiments for 3,300 crore and another regiment of BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles for over 5,000 crore.


I have one doubt, there was one news report on March 2 2016 as http://www.defenceupdate.in/ccs-clear-acquisition-two-awacs/
where it was mentioned "The CCS chaired by Prime Minister Narendra Modi also approved a proposal for induction of the fourth regiment of supersonic cruise missile Brahmos and two more of Pinaka rocket launchers in the army.
Now the above is saying, it were headed for CCS nod. So is there any difference between a "CCS approved" and "cleared by CCS" ?

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Postby jayasimha » 21 Mar 2016 20:04

Indian Battlefield Management System Advances

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defens ... /81643918/

NEW DELHI — The two consortia competing to provide India's new battlefield management system (BMS) have submitted their detailed project reports and the Defence Ministry will order prototypes within six months.

The proposed $6 billion system will be built in the "Make in India" category and reserved only for domestic companies. The two development agencies, Tata Power SED with Larsen & Toubro, and state-owned Bharat Electronics with Rolta India, submitted their detailed project reports last month, said a Defence Ministry source.

The reports will be vetted by the Army's Integrated Project Management Team and the MoD will then issue orders for development of the BMS prototypes within six months, said the MoD source, as effort is made to hasten creation of the system.

The development agencies will choose overseas partners for technical assistance but the tender will only be awarded to the domestic companies under the Make in India category.

Under Make in India, the government funds 80 percent of the prototype development and the development agencies cover the rest. Prototype development is estimated at about $300 million, said an executive of a domestic company participating in the consortium.

After trials of the BMS, final production will be given to a shortlisted agency; it could take up to two years to reach production stage, said the MoD source.

"The pace at which the ambitious BMS program lying on the desk for years has taken off is significant in India's defense industry," said Nitin Mehta, a defense analyst.

Once fully developed and proved, battlefield management systems will be critical elements of the Army's network-centric warfare program and will link infantry level troops on the battlefield to the command headquarters. It will also network ground troops with the various Army command headquarters and integrate all elements in a battlegroup, providing real time tactical scenarios.

The BMS will be able to receive and transmit data, voice and images from multiple sources, including radar, cameras, laser range-finders and ground sensors, allowing the soldier on the battlefield access to real time information simultaneously with the command headquarters.

BMS Prototype

Each BMS prototype will have four variants: for the infantry battalion group, combat group (armor), combat group (mechanized infantry), and special forces group.

Technologies to be included in each prototype include a geographical information system, multisensor data fusion system, rugged computing devices, and a software defined radio-based communication system for soldiers.

The BMS prototypes will be developed and tested in the next 40 months; a final order of 600 plus systems would then be placed for more than $5.8 billion.

A senior executive of one development agency who requested not to be named said, "The challenge in developing a BMS is not on the hardware. With Indian vendors capable of manufacturing the latest state-of-the-art electronics, hardware will not be a challenge, but the challenge will be in deploying such a system. Considering the size of the Indian Army, an efficient command-and-control system is the heart of the system and the biggest stumbling block."

In February of last year, the Indian Army issued an expression of interest to 14 domestic companies, however only two consortiums, Tata Power SED-Larsen & Toubro, and Bharat Electronics-Rolta India, qualified the bids.

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Postby shiv » 21 Mar 2016 20:28

jayasimha wrote:http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/drdo-develops-thermal-imaging-radar-to-look-through-walls/1/624872.html

DRDO develops thermal imaging radar to look through walls
The Through Barrier Imaging Radar, named Divyachakshu (divine eye), has been developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation's (DRDO) Electronics and Radar Development Establishment (LRDE) based in Bengaluru and is going through development trials now.


IANS
New Delhi, March 21, 2016 | Posted by Bijaya Kumar Das | UPDATED 20:35 IST
A +A -

In what can prove to be a great aid for the Indian forces in dealing with hostage situations, India's premier government R&D body DRDO has developed a radar that can look through a wall.
The Through Barrier Imaging Radar, named Divyachakshu (divine eye), has been developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation's (DRDO) Electronics and Radar Development Establishment (LRDE) based in Bengaluru and is going through development trials now.
It can look though walls of 20-30 cm thickness made of any material, by using thermal imaging.
"The radar can produce images from the other side of the barrier up to a distance of 20 metres. It catches the thermal signatures and movements in a room can be clearly seen," a scientist working on the project told IANS on condition of anonymity.
The radar tracks heat on the other side of the wall and gives real time thermal image, which can disclose the movement, number of people and other important information about the situation on the other side of the barrier.
"In a hostage situation, the radar can help give an idea about the number of people inside the room and their movement," the scientists said.
According to experts, the nature of movements can help in locating the terrorists and differentiating them from the hostage.
The development of the radar was triggered by the Mumbai terror attack of November 2008, where terrorists took hostages at several locations, including hotel Taj Mahal, Oberoi Trident and Nariman House.
The device will also prove useful in situations such as the recent attacks in Gurdaspur, Punjab, where terrorists entered the Dina Nagar police station, or the Pathankot airbase and two of the terrorists went on to hide in a building.
The project was started in 2010 and the development trials are expected to conclude by the year end.
"We are looking at the Army, the BSF and paramilitary forces as the buyers," the scientist said.
The Indian Army at present does not have such an equipment

Thermal imaging radar? That means nothing. Either its thermal, or radar. Thermal is useless for 30 cm thick walls. It must be radar

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Postby member_29258 » 22 Mar 2016 10:25

Development under new DPP - Strategic Partner Model

Could the fighter be "Tejas" with new line under pvt company or is it wishful thinking.

He also named 'a fighter, a helicopter' as one of the first to be considered. Another area for the SP will be ammunition for the Army with Parrikar saying that a firm 10 year order would be given to the selected company.



Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst

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Postby JayS » 22 Mar 2016 11:23

shiv wrote:I ask yet again, with regard to Gripen
1. How much of the engine is manufactured in Sweden from Swedish raw material?


Don't remember the exact figure but well over 90% of the parts of RM12 are manufactured by GE only. This is by part count AFAIK.

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Postby Prem Kumar » 22 Mar 2016 19:48

Karan: Swati's induction is great news! I have a question on the numbers. 30 seems smallish to me. Or is it?

Is there a desired ratio of Artillery-Division::WLR?

I also see from its specs that it can overlay enemy gun positions on a 3D 100Kmx100Km color map & can store upto 99 enemy gun locations. Is the Swati WLR numbers somehow tied to area that's intended to be monitored?

From back of envelope math, 30 Swatis can cover 3000Km x 3000Km area assuming no overlap: seems fairly decent. And can locate a max total of ~3000 gun locations

Specs from here: https://bharthiae1.wordpress.com/2015/04/04/indian-army-to-induct-swati-gun-locating-radars/

Added later: seems like the Swati user-acceptance trials were completed in 2008 itself & an initial order for 28 placed! One wonders if this is a new order or is it because of "UPA rate of growth" that the old order is just now materializing......

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Postby Gyan » 23 Mar 2016 09:04

Yes! Even I thought 30 Swati had been ordered 5 years back. What gives?

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Postby Shanu » 23 Mar 2016 09:16

The new DPP is already having a positive impact on the defence private sector valuations - 6% rise in stock value since the announcement.

Came across this interview from SP Shukla of M&M. Some highlights.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 510407.cms

Absolutely. We wholeheartedly welcome the new policy. We really like the thought of expediting peace time procurements because that means one can plan and do things rather than coming under pressure when something has to be done under emergency situation. So it is a wonderful thought. Another very welcome provision of this policy is a category of design in India. Companies like ours has been investing in design and development capabilities, in creating our own IT so that we can design something from scratch, integrate, assemble and not just be dependent upon complete transfer of technology for a product.
There will always be elements of imported technology or imported components but largely we should be in a position to have an indigenous effort. This policy recognises that a preference given to such a category will actually lead to skill development in the industry, it will allow us to absorb better and we welcome it wholeheartedly.


If the 'design in India' policy can be implemented well, it will surely remove the riff-raff from the real defence industry investors among the private players. Hope it goes some distance to break up this ToT+import nexus.

Also, for the people who continue to whine about import components of DRDO designed products, please read the 2nd bolded part. Imports will always be there for commercial/technological reasons, question is do we control the product design and integration.

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Postby jayasimha » 27 Mar 2016 17:55

Print ReleasePrintXClose
Press Information Bureau
Government of India
Ministry of Defence
27-March-2016 17:16 IST
DRDO to Hand Over Sonar Dome to Defence Minister

Goa will have its own proud moments during the prestigious Defexpo being held at Quitol, Goa apart from hosting the mega event first time outside Delhi.

A huge bow mounted Sonar Dome designed & developed by Research & Development Establishment (Engineers) [R&DE(E)], a DRDO laboratory based in Pune is going to be flagged off by Defence Minister Shri Manohar Parrikar, Secretary Department of Defence (R&D) & DG DRDO Dr. S. Christopher will also be present on this important occasion. The ceremony will be held at Defexpo site in Goa on March 29, 2016. The Sonar dome will be delivered to Mazgaon Docks, Mumbai.

The Sonar Dome, a first of its kind in the country has been manufactured by a composites manufacturing company in India. This is a huge contribution by Indian Industry to the ‘Make in India’ movement. Only a couple of companies worldwide have the capability of realising such structures.

All anti-submarine warfare (ASW) ships have a sonar array fitted to the ship structure below the waterline. The sonar functions as the ship’s underwater eyes and ears. The sonar dome is a structure fitted over the sonar array so that its electronics and sensors are not exposed to surrounding hostile environment. The sonar dome has to be structurally sound as well as acoustically transparent.

R&DE(E), DRDO, Pune has successfully developed process technologies to realise large composite structures that can be used in Naval ships & submarines. The Laboratory has also developed technologies related Integral Composite Armour that can be used in Combat Vehicles. The Laboratory is also significantly contributing in development of aerospace structures. NPOL, a DRDO Laboratory at Kochi played a significant role in development of the Sonar Dome.

It is prudent to mention that Composite Material Technologies relevant to Indigenously developed Missiles have already been well established.


DRDO is also fielding Live Demonstration of number of Systems with Cutting Edge Technologies for the first time in Defexpo.

NW/RAJ

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Postby Shanu » 27 Mar 2016 18:39

^^

This is wonderful news. So we seem to have reached a significant milestone is self-sufficiency in the field of sonar development and deployment.

Its great to hear more about the P-28 corvettes' capabilities under the water line, as this is where the deployment is expected to be.

Also the words - huge bow mounted sonar gave me a big kick :wink: , for in a country known to calibrate everything as 'light' and 'medium', the word huge definitely tells me we are moving on to better times. Would be looking out to know more about the capabilities of this 'huge sonar'.

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Postby Karan M » 27 Mar 2016 23:10

Theme is futurism but all products mentioned are those developed.. they should have shown some PGM ones for raising profile..
http://defenceaviationpost.com/2016/03/ ... ndia-2016/

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Postby Vipul » 29 Mar 2016 18:21

Reliance Defence forms JV with Rafael; to take up over Rs 65000 crore worth projects.

Chotu Bhai has signed so many joint venture agreements with overseas players but has till date not got any contract. The day he hands over control of his defence ventures to motu bhai is when the orders will start coming in!!!

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Postby Vipul » 30 Mar 2016 01:34

Tata Advanced Systems looks at building full aircraft, radars, UAVs.

Tata Advanced Systems Ltd (TASL) is well-positioned to manufacture capabilities to build full aircraft, radars and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) under ‘Make In India’ for defence production, according to Sukaran Singh, managing director and chief executive officer.

The company is positioning itself as a platform and system integrators with deep development and manufacturing capabilities under ‘Buy and Make (Indian)’ opportunities of the Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) of the ministry of defence towards defence production.

“This capability is built through several joint ventures with original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) and partnerships with small and medium enterprises in India. TASL is among the few Indian companies that has tied up with top three aerospace and defence companies of the world—Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., Boeing Co. and Airbus Group,” Singh said.

Singh said TASL has either secured or is in the process of securing two big Buy and Make (Indian) programmes for final platform integration, besides supplying UAVs as a full platform to the Indian forces.

For radars, Nova Integrated Systems, a subsidiary of TASL, has emerged the lowest bidder for the Surface Surveillance Radar (SSR) project of the Indian Navy under Buy and Make (Indian).

TASL is already making such UAVs for Southern Command of the Indian armed forces.

“TASL has tied up with Airbus to manufacture the C-295 transport aircraft to replace Avro transport jets. Though we are not Prime partner in this, we will build final assembly for C-295 aircraft, if everything goes well,” Singh said.

Airbus is in advanced discussions with the ministry of defence for the manufacturing of C-295, Singh said, without divulging details of the timeline and investment.

“With C-295, TASL can claim that the company has managed to get contracts for all three full platforms that the company targeted. In the private sector, TASL is in an interesting position to build final defence products in multiple areas in India. TASL is also focusing on increasing value addition in these platform areas by addressing structures, subsystems and final assembly,” Singh said.

Singh pointed out that TASL has taken several capability-building measures for creating a final assembly line in India.

TASL is in collaboration with National Aeronautics Laboratory (NAL) for creating a mission computer for the defence forces.

“NAL has already created a protype for mission computer, which is a critical element in flight systems. TASL with NAL will undertake further development to put the mission computer project into production mode. Mission computer is critical in terms of integrating special sensors and making it in India will offer a lot of flexibility for Indian defence forces,” Singh said.

Singh said the idea is to create more indigenous content throughout the entire aerospace and defence value chain of design, development, manufacture and integration of complex equipment and systems ranging from full aircraft assembly, missiles, command and control systems, unmanned aerial systems, radars, optronics and homeland security with focus on Make In India.

Though experts are lauding the efforts of private enterprises for helping the country in modernisation of defence forces, some analysts remain sceptical about the attempts to localize defence manufacturing.

“We see limited scope in this aspect. Across platforms, indigenization has more or less trailed intended goals, with imports inevitably making up for shortfalls,” said brokerage house ICICI Securities Ltd in a 21 January note.

“While DPP 2013 has created excitement along with Make in India projects, it may take significant time to fructify. Over the next five years, we see limited prospects of meaningful indigenization barring radars and missiles,” said the report.

Rahul Gangal, partner at consultancy firm Roland Berger Strategy Consultants, said the modernisation of Indian defence forces is extremely urgent and it is a matter of creating a robust deterrence as well as force projection both for external as well as internal security issues.

“This modernization effort has been the agenda of all past governments. Under the current regime, there has been a strong focus on ensuring timely award of contracts as well as efforts to rationalize and move ahead old contracts that are stuck due to any reason,” Gangal said.

Gangal said the urgency to modernize defence forces is also critical for paramilitaries and substantial efforts can be seen from the government, both in terms of revision of outlays as well as timebound procurement programmes.

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Postby Vipul » 30 Mar 2016 02:38

BEL, Thales to develop PHAROS fire control radar.

France-headquartered Thales and BEL-Thales Systems Limited (BTSL), the joint venture between Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) and Thales, have signed a partnership agreement for joint development of PHAROS fire control radar during the ongoing Def Expo in Goa.

"This strategic co-operation contract will allow Thales and BTSL to jointly develop PHAROS, a fire control radar for both gun and missile systems," the joint statement released here mentions.

PHAROS provides defence against small, fast moving and highly manoeuvrable air and surface targets that may also be encountered in littoral missions.

The multiple target tracker is capable of simultaneously controlling in all weather conditions the engagement of these targets with guided ammunition.

The joint development will strengthen the co-operation of Thales and BTSL in the field of innovative technologies.The responsibility of overall system design will be borne by Thales.

BTSL will develop the mechanical design and radar processing modifications, while Thales will be responsible for the design and production of the radar antenna. BTSL will carry out its share of the development work in Bengaluru.

This co-development agreement between Thales and BTSL is in-line with the Make in India vision of the Government of India, the statement said. The jointly developed PHAROS system will cater to both domestic Indian and international market requirements.

"We are pleased to work in close collaboration with BTSL for the development of this new type of fire control sensor to address the needs of the Indian and global markets.

"This strategic step goes beyond the co-development partnership; it reaffirms our commitment to the country and to actively contribute to the Make in India policy," said Serge Adrian, Senior Vice President of Surface Radars Activities at Thales.

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Postby hanumadu » 30 Mar 2016 12:54

Saurav Jha ‏@SJha1618 13h13 hours ago
Akash Mk-2 will match Buk's engagement envelope.


Saurav Jha ‏@SJha1618 13h13 hours ago
MCIWS will be inducted.


Saurav Jha ‏@SJha1618 13h13 hours ago
Nirbhay test with SCAN seeker on the anvil.


Saurav Jha ‏@SJha1618 13h13 hours ago
Beyond the first 114, the 52 Cal version of the Dhanush is likely to be procured.

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Postby rohitvats » 30 Mar 2016 14:33

Prem Kumar wrote:Karan: Swati's induction is great news! I have a question on the numbers. 30 seems smallish to me. Or is it?

Is there a desired ratio of Artillery-Division::WLR? <SNIP>


Each Corps HQ is planned to have/already has a SATA Regiment under it command. Where SATA stands for Surveillance and Target Acquisition (SATA). Earlier, couple of Corps HQ used to have full SATA Regiment due to lack of resources. But now with lot of new stuff coming in, each Corps HQ is planned to have/already had this regiment.

SATA Regiment holds the WLR and a troop of UAV for each Corps. AFAIK, Artillery Divisions (we have 03 Artillery Divisions) each have/planned to have one SATA Regiment.

And 30 is the first lot. I expect this order to increase by significant amount. Remember, we've 13 Corps. So, even if each Corps has 10-12 WLR, we're talking about 156 radars at minimum.

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Postby Akshay Kapoor » 30 Mar 2016 14:38

RV,

the SATA are gunners right ?

Lot of new stuff ? What ?

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Postby rohitvats » 30 Mar 2016 16:18

Akshay Kapoor wrote:RV,

the SATA are gunners right ?

Lot of new stuff ? What ?


Yes, Sir. Gunners they be!

Lot of good stuff coming into the Services, especially IA, from the domestic stable. When people on forum crib about IA and some high value item and IA not supporting it, most of the time they simply don't have the inside or correct information. For example, till you mentioned about MOD torpedoing BG gun trial at Deolali, people on this forum were crying hoarse on why IA is not supporting this activity!

They miss the woods for a tree. Sure, something like Arjun sticks out as a sore thumb and IA chaps might not be most savvy like their Naval cousins, but most of the DRDO stuff does end-up with the army. Unlike IAF and IN, IA is not platform centric. It needs thousands of different stuff to make the whole army work. People should look up the number of projects DRDO is running and see what percentage of those are for the army.

Further, people forget to take a small detail known as operational requirement into consideration when going on their diatribe. Anything and everything which impinges on operational preparedness of the IA or Services will receive push back from Services. R&D establishment proposing to develop 'X' product when the requirement was as of yesterday, will not find buyers in IA. But anything which comes with acceptable lead time will always be welcome. Look at Dhruv and Pinaka example. New products in a category which was not pressed for operational reasons. And Pinaka is one step ahead because of private sector participation. FICV with Indian sector participation is happening because of IA push.

And from whatever I've been able to gather, IA is very enthusiastic about private sector participation. They want more projects from DRDO to go to private sector rather than OFB.

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Postby Akshay Kapoor » 30 Mar 2016 16:22

Sure, but specifically what new stuff (from any stable domestic or foreign) has come in recently ? I just want to smile after seeing more and more depressing news.

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Postby Akshay Kapoor » 30 Mar 2016 16:24

Army and DRDO is very very keen on Pvt sector. One example of Sarvtara bridge - developed by LT and DRDO. Both wanted orders to go to LT but AKA gave it to BEML.

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Postby Prem Kumar » 30 Mar 2016 17:51

Thanks Rohit for the explanation. (Swati + UAV + IACCS + new-Howitzers) will be a game changer for the Artillery. Hopefully enough are inducted quickly so that we don't suffer Kargil like shortages again

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Postby A Sharma » 30 Mar 2016 18:01

From L&T Annual Report 2015

Award-winning process improvements have led to record production levels of a missile-a-day of Akash missiles at Coimbatore.

Major orders secured by the Defence & Aerospace business include production of Artillery systems upgrade and land engineering systems, as well as the first-ever non-offset export order from the Phillipines.

The Company has developed the technology to position and control a high precision Gimbal platform for directed energy weapons applications.

Spectrum Infotech is a key player in the design, development and engineering of integrated life support systems for LCA.

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Postby Akshay Kapoor » 30 Mar 2016 18:38

what page is this info on ?

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Postby A Sharma » 30 Mar 2016 18:56

spread all over. Just search, its copied verbatim from the document.

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Postby Vipul » 31 Mar 2016 17:44

Reliance Defence, Ukraine's Antonov plan joint venture for aircraft.

Reliance Defence today said it will enter into a joint venture with Ukraine's Antonov, makers of AN 32 aircraft in service with the IAF, in the filed of transport aircraft for military and civil uses.

"Reliance Defence Ltd along with Ukraine based State Corporation Antonov have agreed to cooperate on dual version transport aircraft for Military, Para military and Commercial use in India," the Anil Ambani-led group said in a statement.

The JV proposal comes at a time when India is in the midst of acquiring new transport aircraft and is in the process of upgrading the 105-strong fleet of AN 32, the country's primary transport aircraft. There is requirement of more than 500 aircraft in different roles and the market size is expected to exceed Rs 35,000 crore over next 15 years, the Reliance Group said.

In May last year, the government has cleared the lone bid of Airbus-TATA consortium for replacing Indian Air Force's fleet of ageing Avro transport aircraft for Rs 11,930 crore.Interestingly, Antanov had stayed away from the bid but later wrote to the Defence Ministry with a proposal to set up a base here.

The IAF's plan to upgrade the AN 32 aircraft had run into trouble due to Ukraine's deteriorating relations with the Russia.It is hoped that if an joint venture is indeed signed and implemented, problems with the upgrade could be resolved.

The upgrade of the aircraft will include air collision avoidance system, ground proximity warning system, satellite navigation system, distance-measuring equipment and new radar among others.

The JV envisages design and manufacture of the medium lift dual use turbofan aircraft in India with transfer of niche technologies. "This will be located at India's first integrated Aerospace Park at Mihan, Nagpur. The program valued at over Rs 35,000 crore is estimated to generate employment for over 7,000 people in the primary and secondary industrial sectors in the region," the statement said.

An agreement was reached between Anil Ambani, Chairman of the Reliance Group and Oleg Gladkovskyi, Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine and the Chairman of the Inter-Agency Committee of Ukraine for Military Technical Cooperation and Export Control Policy on the sidelines of the Defence Expo at Goa.

"Reliance Defence together with Antonov would jointly address various requirements including 50-80 seat passenger aircraft in its basic configuration and in all its variants such as transport, maritime patrol and other military roles," the statement said. Antonov or An class of aircraft have long served the Indian Air Force and Navy for over five decades, the statement said.

"The partnership agreement would provide the benefits of quality and low cost solution for 50-80 seater aircraft through its core competencies," it said. The partnership of Reliance Defence and Antonov envisions design of fixed wing military aircraft configured for use in tactical as well strategic roles.

Powered by two turbo fan high fuel efficiency jet engines, the medium lift aircraft is capable of short field runways operating from remote airfields with unpaved surfaces, the statement said.

"In the Indian civil aviation market, this medium category aircraft could effectively plug the gap in regional air transport connectivity to around 350 unused airstrips currently available across the country and is in consonance with the new draft Civil Aviation policy by MoCA," Reliance said.

Low level tactical missions by this aircraft is aided by modern day avionics and navigation systems powered by fly-by-wire systems in all weather round the clock operations.

The company said India has requirement of over 200 medium lift turbo fan aircraft which is the backbone of all tactical Logistic Transport Support Role (TSR) as well as Route Transport Roles (RTR) of the Air Force, Army and para military forces.

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Postby Karan M » 31 Mar 2016 20:58

MOD Annual Report 2016 is out. Somebody please do the honors. Loads of good info!
Arudhra ready for user trials. Varunastra has cleared naval trials.

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Postby Indranil » 31 Mar 2016 21:05

I like this. Reliance has done what HAL should have done long time back. Antonov kept suggesting that they can move the assembly line to India, but HAL kept pushing back. I don't know why India has to reinvent the wheel with a regional airliner. We should try to get to market fast. Antonov have the designs, but not the money. Advantage Reliance, I say. They can even give Tata Airbus C295W a real run for their money with the An-132 with the western avionics and engines.

My wish list was to start production with the An148-100 series ASAP. This would give a 50 seater/6.5T carrier. No redesign, nothing. In the meantime, continue the flight testing of An-132, or create a passenger version of the same. When that is ready, Reliance will have a 70 seater/9.5T turboprop. The design and development of the turbofan variant could continue in parallel. I even say, to hell with MTA! Go for the An178s.

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Postby Karan M » 31 Mar 2016 21:10

Airborne Early Warning and Control
(AEW&C) System: The role of Indian Airborne
Early Warning and Control (AEW&C) system
is to detect, identify and classify threats in
the surveillance area and act as a command
and control centre to support air defence
operations and communicate with ground
segment and other fighters. All the three fully
modified Embraer EMB-145-I aircrafts have
been received in India. Two of these aircrafts
will be delivered to the IAF after completion
of user associated development trials and the
third system will be retained at CABS, DRDO
to enable future upgrades to the system. As
on date, 408 sorties have been flown on the
two deliverable aircrafts. Performance of
most indigenous mission systems has been
validated. The aircraft has been cleared and
certified for operation under icing conditions,
air-to-air refueling and high altitude operation.
The final phase of flight trials of the selfprotection selfprotection
suite (SPS) is under progress. The
aircraft was demonstrated (both on static
and flight display) in the Aero India 2015
during February 2015. AEW&C participated
in Akraman exercises as observer and the
operators reported that, no loss of situational
awareness was observed.

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Postby Karan M » 31 Mar 2016 21:11

http://currentaffairs.gktoday.in/indian ... 22178.html

ndian Army conducts Akraman–II defense exercise in Rajasthan April 27, 2015No comments India-Nepal joint military exercise Indian Army on 26 April 2015 conducted a major exercise ‘Akraman-II’ in Rajasthan. The exercise was conducted by the Chetak Corps, a part of South Western Command based in Bhatinda, Punjab. The exercise aimed to test a new generation of weaponry and platforms which are employed in the desert region to provide ‘real time battle and situational awareness’ to its commanders. In this exercise more than 300 Combat Vehicles including Main Battle Tanks, Long Range Artillery Guns participated along with 10,000 troops. The Akraman-II exercise also tested the capabilities of Indian Air Force in launching deep insertion of helicopter-borne and airborne army units. The exercise envisaged at orchestration of an integrated battle field scenario in network-centric environment. This orchestrated environment was an integration of reconnaissance, electronic warfare & surveillance and communication assets in order to provide real time battle and situational awareness to commanders.

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