Aditya_V wrote:Tell me what military option we have, Pakis have armed themselves to the hilt since 2005 while we have twiddled our thumbs, they have backing of China and USA, it is simple we are not militarily ready, it will take atleast 3 terms of a nationalist Govt to get the necessary military balance to deal with the Pakis.
If we engage in military action we must come victorious( not some tactically brilliant strategically stupid plan), it must be swift and in surprise. China, USA, 3.5 and Paki constituency within India is working for them.
Pakis have a very clear aim, they want to be the next Mohammed Ghori or Ghazni, both these leaders were just looters. The Paki and Leftist history is written to make them believe that Hindus can never defeat Islam
Our people including some in BRF think Pakistan is a rational nation. They dont pay for thier weapons, thier economy is run on the Dhole of 3.5 Friends. Look at how USA fought Gulf war II or Serbia, they sanctioned the country and went to war with unbelievable military superiority.
A military conflict which is kind of stalemate plays into Paki and Sikuclar gang Paki consistency, the West and China in name of peace talks will just jump in the name of negotiations and give Pakis better terms.
They even spun Operation Parakram as some sort of Paki victory and large parts of the Indian population and some in BRF bought it. Pakis never talk of thier casualties or why they entered into a ceasefire 1 year Parakram.
To deal with Pakis which I think is happening and will take years we need to do the following.
1. Increase divisions within the country with huge dissatisfaction and inter regional and inter society conflicts.
2. Make sure that they dont arm themselves, Lull the 3.5 into thinking about that we have not armed ourselves sufficiently to attack them.
3. Increase our MIC to the extent where we can achieve our miltary goals quickly, we need to take out the Paki Airforce, Paki Missile Lauchers of Ballistic Missiles, Power plants, Waterways, Dams, Key road ways, Paki Navy surface, submarine and arial reconnaissance, decapitation strikes on all core commanders in a very short time. So that Pakis are reduced to firing AK 47 at incoming missiles and bombs and burying all their military dead.
It will take us some time of rearming and getting soem international clout before we can do this. In the meantime we need to pretend to listen to powers that be.
Sir, will we ever be militarily ready by this logic? In 03 terms of nationalist govts (back to back I presume), while we arm ourselves, Pakis will twiddle their thumb? China and US won't take Pakistan to next level while we become mightier?
15 yrs ago folks would say the same thing about our military preparedness, it is the same today and will be the same in 2031.
We will not use military options because bulk of Indians are not in favour of military action (my opinion). We are in favour of military action when we are attacked but not in favour of such action in an attacking role.
Are we scared of war to the point that we will take Mumbai, Parliament attack, Pathankot, etc with dossiers and be happy? Will we ever stand up for ourselves? If we are not going to stand up for ourselves, pray, why will any one else stand for us? International clout - what is that? Seat on Security Council or member of NSG, MTCR, SCO, etc.?
In our minds we have been conditioned to believe that we are great rescuers not fighters. Clout comes from force of will and not wish. Our conditioning is to be a good boy with hair properly parted, finger-on-your-lips, hands-by-your-side, shirt tucked in, nails cut, erect posture.
I am not advocating war. I have been involved enough to know that a lot can be done militarily without a war. However, whenever someone brings up retaliation as a point of discussion, folks immediately bring up points of how under prepared we are for war. I am sure folks who have been on BRF since 2000 would have read these arguments frequently enough to realise the familiar pattern.
There are two key perceptions here:
>It has been constantly drummed into Indian minds that we are under prepared for war. We believe it like we believe the sun rise. The only people who question this belief are the one who took Pakistanis to task.
>Pakistani Army is cut off from the welfare of aam abduls and hence irrespective of consequences to the goat loving abdul they will be reckless and escalate war to its nuclear destination promptly.
I am not sure whether these perceptions are based on factual conditions but I am sure that every time the option of military action is brought on table these are the first thoughts (or variations to these) that come in everyone's mind. All decisions flow from this subconscious backdrop. Hence, to me, these decisions have been dhimmified even before formulation.
As far as I am concerned every time this happens, Pakistan wins against India. One more nail gets hammered into the Indian subconscious. One more time a billion plus people try to erase the slight delivered by Pakistan and go back to work trying to forget how they were just outraged. An image of a rape victim unable to find strength and courage in the people around her to take on the local goon who has gotten away so often that he doesn't even bother hiding his crime. A local goon against whom the police, the state or the society refuses to act. A goon that stands tall as he collects more and more hafta.
Cheers goon! We pay you our respect. This mango season we will also give you our best Alphonsoes.
