Russian Weapons & Military Technology

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 31 Mar 2016 17:37

Tx Austin for the latest Air Fleet info/link.V.good info on IL-476,IL-78.IL-76 upgrades, tanker,MI-26T,MIG-35 prod,Bangladesh's Yak-130 trainers,etc.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Apr 2016 10:08

Austin wrote:Mig-29K of Russian Navy

Cant really miss the hooded look of Mig-29K , The original Mig-29A had a more slender hooded look but it was still the original khatarnak look of the 29.

In between the experimented with more chubby fatter fuselage for more fuel etc and spoilt the looks with Mi-29M2/SMT etc not Mig-29K and Mig-35 gets back the deadly 29 hooded look bit more meaty over the 29A

The Mig-29 has any day more sexy looks over the Flanker

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 02 Apr 2016 06:18

Ukraine Pitches To Break Russian Monopoly in India.

Ukraine has launched an aggressive effort to manage multiple overloaded armaments and weaponry that New Delhi acquired during the Soviet era and which have become a liability for the Indian defense forces.

Armed with the salutations of a government-level delegation (to negate the strains in the relationship between the two countries since Ukraine sold T-80 U tanks to Pakistan in the early 1990s) and with over a dozen defense companies showcasing new programs at Defexpo, Ukraine is attempting to embrace India and break the Russian monopoly on the Soviet-era platforms.

Perto Fedoruk, chief adviser to Ukraine’s largest defense industry consortium, Ukroboronprom, said: “We are here now [in] India for the long term to manage Soviet-era headaches, which India cannot manage alone.”

“For nearly a decade Russia has forcefully blocked our entry," Fedoruk said. "We have offered multiple solutions to give new life to Soviet-era weaponry [with Indian defense forces], as we are the original equipment manufacturer.”

According to a Ukrainian diplomat, “India cannot resolve the headaches of overloaded Soviet-era platforms without Ukraine."

Nikolay Gordienko, head of Ukroboronprom naval projects, said: “India has now permitted us to participate in defense programs independently, and we are offering a new solution to manage and refit the Soviet-era aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov [renamed as INS Vikramaditya], which is 50 percent cheaper than the Russian offer."

The Indian Navy is evaluating a proposal by Ukraine for overhaul and maintenance of gas turbines used in Delhi-class warships and the carrier Admiral Gorshkov.

The Ukroboronprom deputy director general of strategy, Artur Kheruvymov, said India plans to organize a “joint military technical commission for providing service support for Soviet-era weaponry."

"In addition, the two countries are also planning to form joint ventures in India for upgradation and overhaul and manufacture of spares for Soviet-built air defense systems, including the Kvadrat, OSA-AKM Strela-1, Tunguska, Shilka, portable IGLA and Strela-2 systems," Kheruvymov said.

Ukraine is doing more than $100 million in annual defense business with India, and aims to increase it to $500 million in the next three years, he said.

Over 700 defense contracts related to the delivery of spares, repair and upgrade valued at over $2 billion were signed and completed in the last 10 years.

“We have now managed to make a breakthrough,” according to the Ukrainian diplomat, who added: “India has now decided not to buy [the] electronic support measure system used to detect and track stealth aircraft and Vympel R-27 medium-range air-to-air missiles from us instead of from Russia.”

Ukraine has also offered to collaborate with India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to jointly develop multiple rocket launcher systems with a range of 100 kilometers — similar to Russian Grad systems.

“In addition, we will also be developing a variety of new electronic warfare systems with DRDO and a partnership has been sealed recently,” Fedoruk said.

Ukroboronprom is also sealing a partnership with state-owned Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) to indigenize Russian T-90 main battle tanks and set up a facility to manufacture spares in India.

Ukraine has also entered into a partnership with state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics for supply of crucial spares for Russian Sukhoi aircraft.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 03 Apr 2016 09:50

Obzor-1 High-altitude reconnaissance UAV from Myasischchev

Russia developing new high-altitude stealth drone

Russia is developing a high-altitude attack drone with stealth technology.

According to a report prepared by the Myasischev Experimental Engineering Factory, the project, code-named Obzor-1, is being carried out by the Professor Zhukovsky Central Aero-Hydrodynamic Institute in collaboration with the Myasischev Experimental Engineering Factory.

The Obzor-1 has received an extended wing with high-impact weight, which will increase the unmanned aerial vehicle's aerodynamics. R&D for the drone will be completed in 2016 and work on the first prototype will then begin.

Further details of the UAV are not being disclosed. As is known from the Russian State Armament Program, the UAV's flight duration will not be less than 24 hours and the flight altitude will be no lower than 33,000 feet.

Currently, Russia does not posses high-altitude attack drones with long flight duration. The Orion-2, a drone produced by the Kronstadt Company, can fly for 20 to 60 hours, but was developed for middle-altitude usage.

Original Link :- http://alexeyvvo.livejournal.com/136687.html

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 03 Apr 2016 09:54

Plans ICBM launches and launches military spacecraft in 2016-17 years

http://alexeyvvo.livejournal.com/166754.html

The Russian Ministry of Defense announced plans to launch military spacecraft and launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles for 2016-2017. Information about this is available in the documentation for tenders for the insurance of responsibility for damage to life, health or property of other persons ( reference 1 and reference 2 ).

The number of launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles in 2016-2017:
ICBM RS-12 - 7 launches [ "Topol"];
ICBM RS-24 - 3 Start [ "yars"];
ICBM RS-26 - 1 start [ "Boundary"];
ICBM RS-18 - 1 start [ "Stiletto"].

The insured amount (liability limit) in a single ICBM:
ICBM RS-12 - 180 million rubles.
ICBM RS-24 - 180 million rubles.
ICBM RS-26 - 180 million rubles.
ICBM RS-18 - 1.2 billion rubles.

The number of launches military spacecraft in 2016-2017:
using rocket "Soyuz 2.1.b" - 3 launch;
using a carrier rocket "Soyuz 2.1.c" - 1 start;
using rocket "Proton" - 2 launch.

The sum insured (limit of liability) at a launch of the space rocket (1 risk - for causing harm to the staff areas of the fall separating parts of space rockets, the risk is 2 - in other areas):
"Soyuz-2.1.b" - Risk 1 - 900 million rubles, the risk is 2 -. 4.5 billion rubles .;
"Soyuz-2.1.c" - Risk 1 - 900 million rubles, the risk is 2 -. 2.4 billion rubles .;
RN "2.1.b-Union" - Risk 1 - 900 million rubles, the risk is 2 -. 6.0 bln.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 03 Apr 2016 10:42

Orlan 10 UAV , concept is similar to Nishant UAV in take-off and landing but much smaller

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 04 Apr 2016 22:56

https://www.rt.com/viral/338403-drone-c ... parachute/
Raptor drone nets UAVs in mid-air, but spares its prey

[youtube]GS05Getp1Lc?[/youtube]

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 05 Apr 2016 18:57

Russian Navy’s Future: Advanced Warships and Arms

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 05 Apr 2016 19:04

The Baltic Fleet (E01): Russian stealth corvette and ‘black hole’ submarine get ready for a face-off

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 05 Apr 2016 20:00

there are many episode of this series but these two gives a good idea how a Modern Corvette and Kilo class submarine Detects and Track each other. Even though the Kilo are of old type commisioned in 1990 it managed to track and fire first at the most modern corvette of RuN

The Baltic Fleet (E11): Underwater navigation and enemy detection

The Baltic Fleet (E12): Naval war games 'Soobrazitelny' & 'Magnitogorsk' go all out to win

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 06 Apr 2016 05:48

Austin wrote:The Mig-29 has any day more sexy looks over the Flanker

depends on AoA of your bore-sight and deception angle. sexier looks has relationship to stealth. if you know what I mean in terms of wave returns.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 06 Apr 2016 08:08

SaiK wrote:
Austin wrote:depends on AoA of your bore-sight and deception angle. sexier looks has relationship to stealth. if you know what I mean in terms of wave returns.

Doesnt matter the airframe looks sexier then most stealth platform out there , The only sexier looking stealth aircraft I every liked was the YF-23 , I my view the 29 and 23 would be the best looking aircraft flown till date.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 07 Apr 2016 13:13

Mig-31 & A-50

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 07 Apr 2016 13:18

2016 - ARMATA T-14 WINTER TEST DEMONSTRATION *** HD

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 08 Apr 2016 00:11

where can we get more info on kret ods/president-s air defense system?
http://www.defencenews.in/article/Russi ... tries-4138

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 08 Apr 2016 09:37

SaiK wrote:where can we get more info on kret ods/president-s air defense system?
http://www.defencenews.in/article/Russi ... tries-4138

President-S DIRCM : https://russianmilitaryphotos.wordpress ... res-suite/
OEM info but in Russian: http://niiekran.ru/prod_president.php

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 08 Apr 2016 10:16

Russian Air Force Su-25 Frogfoot attack aircraft dropped 6,000 (mostly unguided) bombs over Syria

http://theaviationist.com/2016/03/19/ru ... ver-syria/

The Russian Air Force Su-25 Frogfoots were pretty busy during their Syrian deployment.

On Mar. 16, the Russian Aerospace Forces (RuAF) welcomed the return of their Sukhoi Su-25 attack aircraft from Hmeymim airfield, in Syria, to their home base in the Krasnodar region.

As reported by the Tass News Agency, during the ceremony, Alexander Galkin, the Russia’s Southern Military District commander, said the Frogfoots flew more than 1,600 sorties and dropped around 6,000 bombs since when Russian aircraft began missions against terrorists in Syria on Sep. 15, 2015.

“After a prolonged assignment away from home we are welcoming back our best pilots. They have coped with all of their tasks. Over the past six months they flew 1,600 sorties in adverse conditions spending more than 1,000 hours in the sky over Syria to have dropped about 6,000 bombs on the terrorists,” Galkin said.

Noteworthy, the Sukhoi Su-34 bombers have been the first RuAF aircraft to leave Hmeymim airbase on Mar. 15, followed by the Su-24 and Su-25 attack jets which left the airfield later on the same day.

A we have already explained, unlike the U.S. led coalition combat planes which rely on accurate precision guided munitions (PGMs), the Russian aircraft made an extensive use of unguided bombs, such as the OFAB-250 which along with S-13 rockets represented the main weapon used by the Frogfoots against terrorists targets in Syria.

Nevertheless also the RuAF attack jets used several kinds of PGMs. These weapons, which belong to the KAB-500 guided bomb series, include the KAB-500KR TV guided bomb, the KAB-500L laser guided bomb and the GLONASS-guided KAB-500S-E that like the American JDAM depends on a GPS guidance system.

These smart weapons can arm the Su-24, the Su-25, the Su-30 and the Su-34: all the fighter bomber types that took part in the Russian air campaign in Syria.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 10 Apr 2016 10:52

Ukraine seeks defence cooperation with India at the expense of Russia

By KANISHKA SINGH | NEW DELHI | 9 April, 2016

‘Ukraine intends to manage Soviet-era headaches on a long-term basis, which India cannot manage alone’.

Ukraine is making a strong push for increasing bilateral cooperation with India, at the expense of Russia’s market share, with key agreements inked at Defexpo 2016 in Goa. India’s Reliance Defence Ltd and Ukrainian state aircraft manufacturer Antonov agreed on a deal worth Rs 35,000 crore for joint construction of multipurpose transport aircraft for military as well as commercial use — a deal which had earlier stalled between India and Russia. Ukraine is also attempting to break Russia’s “monopoly” in terms of cooperation with India by poaching deals from Russia for repairs and maintenance of India’s Soviet-era military equipment. A Ukrainian consortium of defence manufacturers has made offers to the Ministry of Defence for servicing equipment and carriers of the Soviet-era. The offers are up to 50% lower than Russian offers.
Reliance Defence Ltd said in a statement that the firms would “jointly address various requirements, including 50-80 seat passenger aircraft in their basic configurations and in transport, maritime patrol and other military variants.” The aircraft will be powered by two turbo-fan engines. The medium lift aircraft will be able to operate on short field runways as well as unpaved surfaces. The partnership with Ukraine covers design of the fixed wing military aircraft, which will be configured for use in both tactical and strategic roles. Reliance Defence Ltd said in a statement that there will be a requirement of over 500 such aircraft over the next 15 years.
The site for production of the aircraft is already defined. The planes will be built at India’s first integrated Aerospace Park at Mihan, Nagpur. The Indian government has laid out a special strategic plan for this area, which is to build everything on its own territory.
The agreement was inked between Anil Ambani, chairman of the Reliance Group, and Oleh Gladkovskyi, deputy secretary of Ukraine’s national security and defence council and chairman of the country’s Inter-Agency Committee for Military Technichal Cooperation and Export Control Policy. Currently, Indian Air Force and Navy have over 100 Ukrainian made AN-32 transport aircraft and it is in the process of upgrading its fleet.
Petro Fedoruk, chief advisor of Ukraine’s largest defence industry consortium, Ukroboronprom, said at the Defexpo 2016 currently underway in Goa on Friday that Ukraine is looking to “push Russia out of its monopoly position in the repair of Soviet equipment”. Fedoruk said that Ukraine intends to manage Soviet-era “headaches” on a long-term basis, “which India cannot manage alone”. While speaking on the decline in Indian-Ukrainian military cooperation in the late 1990s, Fedoruk said that Russia forcefully blocked Ukraine’s entry for over a decade after Kiev sold a large shipment to T-80 tanks to Pakistan. Fedoruk said that Ukraine can revive the old Soviet-era equipment and offer multiple solutions as it was “the original equipment manufacturer”.
India’s Ministry of Defence signed MoUs with several Ukrainian companies for the manufacturing of 500 transport planes as well as providing gas turbines for Indian warships. This is important in the backdrop of the previously stalled joint deal between India and Russia on the development of a Multi-role Transport Aircraft transport warplane along with Russia’s rejection to service the ships. According to Nikolai Gordienko, Ukroboronprom naval projects head at Defexpo, Ukraine has offered “new solutions to manage and refit the Soviet-era aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov, an offer which is 50% cheaper than the Russian offer”.
The carrier Admiral Gorshkov was sold to India in 2004 and was later rechristened INS Vikramaditya. Ukroboronprom deputy director general of strategy Artur Kheruvymov told reporters that India and Ukraine plan to organise a joint military technical commission on servicing all manner of Soviet-era military equipment. He said that the two countries are planning to form joint ventures in India for upgrading, overhauling and manufacturing of spares for Soviet-built air defence systems.
Soviet-era air defence systems in India’s possession include Kvadrat, OSA-AKM Strela-1, Tunguska, Shilka, portable IGLA and Strela-2 systems.
Responding to statements made by the Ukrainian delegation at Defexpo in Goa, Viktor Murakhovsky, member advisory council of the Russian Military-Industrial Commission, said that the words of the Ukrainian delegation are part of “pure fantasy”. Murakhovsky said that the anti-aircraft missile systems listed by Ukrainian representatives for service and repair were actually manufactured on Russian territory of the Soviet Republic.
One area where Ukraine has created a pedigree for itself and might help India is assisting in repairs of gas turbines with the Zorya-Mashproekt plant in Nikolaev believed to possess all the required competencies. Vladimir Drozhev, deputy director of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, told reporters at Defexpo that they were not worried about “Ukraine chipping away at Russia’s market share in India”. He said that Russia’s military-technical cooperation with India was based on long-term planning that stretched till 2020. Drozhev added that Russia “fully supported the Make in India initiative of the Indian government.”
For his part, Vladimir Drozhev, the deputy director of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, told Gazeta.ru’s correspondent at Defexpo that there was no sense worrying about Ukraine chipping away at Russia’s market share in India. “Our military-technical cooperation is implemented according to long-term planning stretching to 2020. Moreover, the Russian side fully supports the ‘Make in India’ initiative announced by the Indian government,” the official noted.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 10 Apr 2016 11:13

Ukraine will be useful when it comes to Zorya GT engine which we use on Ships , we need to see if we can build these engines in India or maintain them here , these engines are wonderful and power our destroyers and frigates.

I recollect a news where they mentioned ISRO was interested in LOX/Kerosine engine from Ukraine or was already working with them since few years.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 10 Apr 2016 11:17

Here’s why the MiG-29 could defeat the best western fighters in close air combat, despite its limitations

As Koeck recalls “Inside ten nautical miles I’m hard to defeat, and with the IRST, helmet sight and ‘Archer’ (which is the NATO designation for the R-73 missile) I can’t be beaten. Even against the latest Block 50 F-16s the MiG-29 is virtually invulnerable in the close-in scenario. On one occasion I remember the F-16s did score some kills eventually, but only after taking 18 ‘Archers’ (Just as we might seldom have got close-in if they used their AMRAAMs BVR!) They couldn’t believe it at the debrief, they got up and left the room!”

Moreover with a 28 deg/sec instantaneous turn rate (compared to the Block 50 F-16’s 26 deg) the MiG-29 could out-turn them: in fact the Fulcrum retained an edge over its adversaries thanks to its unmatched agility which was reached combining an advanced aerodynamics with an old-fashioned mechanical control system.

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 10 Apr 2016 18:32

Yeah, but with its smoking engine readily facilitating an early lock-on from BV range it will be vapour-ware much before it comes within 10 mile range of the latest generation F16's.

brar_w · Post by **brar_w** » 10 Apr 2016 18:39

The path that the current F-16 took was to optimize it for doing well in a net-centric environment and to maximize its performance in delivering PGM's in the various missions tasked to it. Had they really needed to go back and optimize the aircraft for close in fighting and air-combat in general there were a umpteen number of things they could have done, some which they did and demonstrated in actual mock combat with other aircraft. The evolution of any legacy aircraft is largely determined by the operational needs of its primary users. While there is a completely lopsided attention paid on air combat on discussion boards, the reality is that any nation must match its air-superiority assets with its estimates of what the number is required to establish air-superiority over a given theater/or scenario.

The other missions then get remaining priority since you don't win wars just by establishing air-superiority/dominance, you have to go in and destroy your opponent's military from the air. In the US this is the ACC's task hence primary Air-Superiority squadrons would be F-22, F-15C and some F-35A squadrons. The rest would all be multi-role strike fighters and thats how they'll train. Over the years the F-16C and its offshoots introduced capability in net-centricity and advanced avionics that only later showed up in other newer fighters and when you pair it up with the enormous PGM lead the US put through the 90's and beyond it made the aircraft stand out for a customer investing in just one type of fighter given the it was and still is fairly affordable to operate over its LC. Had the Cold-War not ended, a whole bunch of F-16 squadrons would also have been tasked with primary air-superiority and we would have see a different modernization roadmap including perhaps the F-16U.

These and other changes demo'd or chalked up would have solved the Viper's instantaneus turn shortcoming when coupled with the JHMCS and 9X/P4,5/ASRAAM/IRIST and had the need been there, you could have had them in the field by the late 90's or early 2000's but by then the JSF prototypes were in the air, and the F-22A well into production. It was tough to justify taking resources and committing them to the Viper other than mission system enhancements

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 10 Apr 2016 19:33

Vipul wrote:Yeah, but with its smoking engine readily facilitating an early lock-on from BV range it will be vapour-ware much before it comes within 10 mile range of the latest generation F16's.

BVR lockon are facilated by radar so it does not matter if engine smokes or not
If you compare the latest gen MIG the engines do no smoke and MIG has not compromised on its manouveribility during its evolution

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 10 Apr 2016 20:01

Vipul wrote:Yeah, but with its smoking engine readily facilitating an early lock-on from BV range it will be vapour-ware much before it comes within 10 mile range of the latest generation F16's.

From: http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 0#p2003558

Parrikar wrote: "We are not discussing buying the fighter (aircraft). We want to make it in India through transfer of technology for our requirement. ........"

Rule of the game have changed.

This is no longer a US vs. a Russian. It is about Indian, the tech can come from anywhere. And, the shape of the plane may look familiar. Rest is up to Indian brains.

All old analysis - important as they are - will need to be shelved for some time. Use as a ref, perhaps, but not as a go-to document.

This morphing - from old to new thinking - will not be easy to swallow. You are *bound* to hear a LOT of args based on MKI and other items that were made in India. But, what we are witnessing here is a paradigm shift and not even MKI holds water for this new thinking. BUT, this new thinking came out of the failures of the MKI process (not a knock on what those teams did - just that it did have flaws).

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 11 Apr 2016 13:13

Mr Parrikar says so many things on so many occasion that its hard to figure out what he really wants , I hope he first clears all the earlier critical deal in the pipeline instead of jumping to something new and waste everybody time , Sometimes I just wonder if he is taking all the OEM for a good ride

I wont though fault him for allowing major DRDO purchase to be sanctioned thats a big positive of MOD and cutting the Flab from the Defence Budget irrespective of what he does with imported deal in pipeline

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 11 Apr 2016 13:19

Su-35s at the airport Dzemgi combat duty with new BVR missiles RVV-SD , PAK-FA in weapons trial seen with new WVR missile RVV-MD and BVR PAK-FA

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 12 Apr 2016 18:33

An update on robots in Russian armed forces.

https://youtu.be/cXP7sAMfLPM

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 14 Apr 2016 08:15

2S35 Koalitsiya-SV SPG Firing declassified footage, interior

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 14 Apr 2016 21:20

How can a second generation flying coffin be permitted to do risky things like this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/widget/video-embed/665795139868

brar_w · Post by **brar_w** » 14 Apr 2016 21:28

How exactly is this risky?

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 14 Apr 2016 22:16

Vipul wrote:Yeah, but with its smoking engine readily facilitating an early lock-on from BV range it will be vapour-ware much before it comes within 10 mile range of the latest generation F16's.

I don't think the fulcrum smokes in all regimes, just in certain conditions when maneuvering, and at that point they are both likely aware of each other anyway. Also, in case of earlier old model scenarios, all functions carried irsts, which have them a pretty decent picture of the enemy, possibly at close to bvr ranges. The archer always had a lot of range for a sraam

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 14 Apr 2016 22:17

Austin, excellent update on the r77sd...operational already? Who knew...the Russians have always been full of surprises when it comes to their aams

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 14 Apr 2016 23:41

Cain Marko wrote:<SNIP>

I don't think the fulcrum smokes in all regimes, just in certain conditions when maneuvering, and at that point they are both likely aware of each other anyway. Also, in case of earlier old model scenarios, all functions carried irsts, which have them a pretty decent picture of the enemy, possibly at close to bvr ranges. The archer always had a lot of range for a sraam

From what I recollect reading a message board, the Russian engineers insisted that it is okay from technical viewpoint. Some combustion process/gear was added in the engine just to address this.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 15 Apr 2016 04:30

brar_w wrote:How exactly is this risky?

It is a non stealthy, old platform driven by poorly trained russians. It could easily crash into a mast due to pilot error, get sucked into the sea due to surface tension, or crash into the next large wave crest flying low. It justshows putin is risking his pilots lives for propaganda and doesnt have UAVs even comparable to iran. The iranians fly their UAVs over american carriers. Lets see if the russians can do that. Even their cruise missiles have been falling down in random places improving the moral of the isil. otherwise how could they defeat the rebels in the north? this is another distraction to cover up the crash of the helicopter (widow maker!) and crash of the crise missile, and shooting down of sukhoi made planes using just what mounts to little more than rpg.

brar_w · Post by **brar_w** » 15 Apr 2016 04:43

^ Sarcasm aside, for the purpose of saber-rattling, a fast jet is many times more effective than a little UAV. The jet was unarmed, flew over international waters, the US and Russia aren't at war, and there seemed to be no threat to the ship at any time. You can chalk this up to be pretty safe. Even though it flew really low, it is a fast jet and is expected to do so.

Of course, other attempts in different times haven't gone so well but this was quite common during the cold war, and there is no reason to believe that it would stop anytime soon.

http://theaviationist.com/2016/04/14/th ... t-carrier/

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 15 Apr 2016 06:36

wow! the russian bias at this website is breathtaking. the same plane was shot down by rag tag jihadis. do you think it would have syrvived uss donald cook? it could easily have been misidentified as north korean and shot down as kerry said. and how fast could it have been traveling if it made a u-turn near the ship and ran away with its tail between its leg. I doubt the old hardware can really fly fast, all the horse power is likely gpne like any old car. they only fly 10-20 hours per year for a pilot. clearly risky for the conscript pilot lives. this is why they use a land plane, if it was a carrier plane it might have landed on the cook and defected.

all this coldwar propaganda and how it was this way is all fine for russia stronk! fora, but the world press is going to take notice of this. death clock will tick up another 30 seconds towards midnight. fox news will be deeply disturbed. who is going to cover donald trump then?

poland was not, and will never be afraid of russia. west ukraine is polish and must be returned to the EU.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 15 Apr 2016 07:46

Shreeman wrote:wow! the russian bias at this website is breathtaking. the same plane was shot down by rag tag jihadis. do you think it would have syrvived uss donald cook? it could easily have been misidentified as north korean and shot down as kerry said. and how fast could it have been traveling if it made a u-turn near the ship and ran away with its tail between its leg. I doubt the old hardware can really fly fast, all the horse power is likely gpne like any old car. they only fly 10-20 hours per year for a pilot. clearly risky for the conscript pilot lives. this is why they use a land plane, if it was a carrier plane it might have landed on the cook and defected.

There may be some misinformation here. When plane is approaching fast with nose pointing at ship, its infra red radar emissions are away from ship so ship cannot see it. When it is receding from ship it is too late. So that is why it will be seen only from side. That is why plane photo is from the side. Missiles can't fire sideways - only forwards - so plane is safe damn i bit the bait

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 15 Apr 2016 07:59

I think they are jst checking the reaction time of ships and skill of pilot put to test, such things keep happening , there were times when aircraft overflew aircraft carrier or the aircraft would get detected and would get escorted by carrier aircraft , this time it's in news coz it flew too close.

Every Navy does that , I have seen on flight deck of vikrant/viraat pictures of in navy shar escorting many american aircraft snooping around even of other navies.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 15 Apr 2016 08:03

vishvak wrote: From what I recollect reading a message board, the Russian engineers insisted that it is okay from technical viewpoint. Some combustion process/gear was added in the engine just to address this.

HAL started building the RD-33 series 3 engine to address the smoke issue , apparently with series 3 had some fix to reduce the smoke

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 15 Apr 2016 08:36

Cain Marko wrote:Austin, excellent update on the r77sd...operational already? Who knew...the Russians have always been full of surprises when it comes to their aams

It is the first known picture of RVV-SD on operational deployment but R-77-1/RVV-SD may not be the recently deployed as interview of the design bureau chief mentioned RVV-SD is in production for past 3 years http://alexeyvvo.livejournal.com/152522.html

Su-30SM is also getting it http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1850048.html , So MKI should be capable of the new type.