Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Gyan · Post by **Gyan** » 20 Apr 2016 16:49

It is good that honest Indian Babus, who never went to Hong Kong for fun and frolic, handed over entire Indian Telecom sector to China along with all of consumer durable sector. At least we can hike custom duties on non-essentials like toys, furniture etc to GATT compatible 40%

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 20 Apr 2016 17:03

How about making all the PRC goods go via a single port say Tutricon on the tip of TN. All the goods coming or imports coming from PRC will have to go via that port only. This particular port can then be staffed with all the worst of the worst pedantic and corrupt officials whose only goal will be to see how much delay they can introduce into the clearance. All the stuff going through these ports will have to be scanned, opened and inspected with hand. If it is electronics than each and every item will have to be visibly inspected. And these guys will be working only 2-3 days a week, for say 4 hours a day. And oh finally one more point the port will remain closed during the 4th quarter of every year.

That should introduce a lot of cost into PRC's imports.

Gyan · Post by **Gyan** » 20 Apr 2016 17:22

The rumour is that China has very deep penetration of Indian Top Policy making sector through banks and brothels in Hong Kong, therefore no economic punishment will ever be met out to China under any circumstances.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Apr 2016 05:29

India, China agree to peacefully negotiate 'mutually acceptable' border solution - PTI

India and China on Wednesday agreed to adhere to "peaceful negotiations" to settle the vexed border issue and reach a "fair, reasonable and mutually acceptable solution", amid negativity over Beijing's blocking of India's bid in the UN to ban Pakistan-based JeM chief Masood Azhar.

The decision was taken during the annual 19th round of boundary talks here between National Security Adviser Ajit Doval and his Chinese counterpart Yang Jiechi to discuss the way forward to resolve the dispute which has bedevilled the relations between the two countries.

Both the leaders had an "extensive, deep and candid" discussion on the 3,488 km-long Line of Actual Control (LAC), which remains undemarcated resulting in tensions between the two sides.

Both sides agreed to adhere to "peaceful negotiations to settle the boundary question". They will make efforts to reach a "fair, reasonable and mutually acceptable solution", according to a Chinese foreign ministry statement.

Besides the border issue, Doval and Yang, the designated Special Representatives, also have a larger mandate to discuss all contentious bilateral, regional and international matters of mutual concern.

Welcoming Doval, Yang in his opening remarks at the meeting said: "Your visit fully signifies the importance Indian side attaches to this meeting and the efforts to further promote the strategic partnership between China and India.

"China-India relations carry special significance. China stands ready to use this important occasion to have a broad ranging in-depth and candid discussion with Indian side on the bilateral relations, boundary question, regional and international issues and other issues of shared interest." {This is quite nuanced. I do not recall any such statement earlier when China said it wanted to discuss such a wide gamut of issues. This is interesting especially in the light of the about-to-be-signed LSA with the US}

Doval in his response spoke about the importance of informal talks between him and Yang, saying "not talking from the mind but also from the heart".

The statement, carried by state-run Xinhua news agency, said that the two sides will properly manage differences and safeguard peace and tranquility in the border areas so as to create favourable conditions for development of their ties.

Both sides shared the view that China-India relations have broad prospects and Beijing and New Delhi have far more common interests than differences.

Bilateral ties have entered a new era of comprehensive and rapid development since Chinese President Xi Jinping paid a successful visit to India in 2014 and Prime Minister Narendra Modi travelled to China in 2015, it said.

Both sides should implement the important consensus between the leaders, enhance high-level interactions, tap the potential of cooperation, and promote China-India relations to a higher level, it said.

The issue of China putting technical hold on India's recent bid to bring about a UN ban on Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM) chief Azhar for his involvement in the Pathankot terrorist attack was also said to have figured during the talks.

Terming 2015 during which Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited China as a "very positive year" in bilateral ties between the two countries, Doval said: "It started a process about which we feel very satisfied. There has been an improvement in the bilateral exchanges between the two countries in various fields."

He also conveyed greetings by Modi to Chinese President Xi Jinping and Premier Li Keqiang.

Barring the opening remarks, officials maintained total secrecy on the proceedings and Doval himself declined to speak to the media.

Ahead of the talks, defence minister Manohar Parrikar - who concluded his visit to China on Wednesday - highlighted India's stand that there should be clarity about the LAC.

It was highlighted by Modi both during Xi's visit to India in 2014 and his own trip here last year. But China was averse to accept it and for its part suggested a code of conduct.

Last year, Deputy Director General of the Asian Affairs at the Chinese foreign ministry Huang Xilian highlighted China's reservation on the clarification of LAC, saying "whatever we do in the border area it should be constructive. That means it should be a building block for the process of negotiations, not a stumbling block."

In the meeting with his Chinese counterpart on Monday, Parrikar said clarity over LAC will bring down tensions between the troops on both sides which aggressively patrol the areas to assert their control.

"We are insisting it should be done in order to really ensure a very stable border as all the issues take place because of perception," he said.

Marking the LAC is "one of the preconditions of smooth border operations. Without that everything goes by perceptions, which has caused problems sometimes", he told the media here.

Parrikar also highlighted India's concerns over China's projects in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) especially the $46-billion Economic Corridor going through the disputed territory. This issue too reportedly figured in the Doval-Yang talks.

On the border dispute, officials on both sides say the protracted boundary talks made progress and that they also made attempts to avert tensions along the disputed border.

While China says that the boundary dispute is confined to 2,000km, mainly in Arunachal Pradesh in eastern sector which it claims as part of southern Tibet, India asserts that the dispute covered the whole of the LAC including the Aksai Chin occupied by China during the 1962 war.

When the Special Representatives were appointed in 2003, the two sides set off a three-stage process.

The two countries first reached an agreement on the guiding principles and setting political parameters for the settlement in 2005.

Officials say the two sides are currently in the second stage which focusses on working out a framework of settlement to be followed by final step drawing the boundary line based on framework agreement.

On the 19th round boundary talks, Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying said on Tuesday that "we have been working to resolve territorial disputes through negotiations and consultation. China completely settled territorial disputes with 12 of the 14 land neighbours".

Regarding Azhar, India's UN Permanent Representative Syed Akbaruddin spoke of "hidden veto" at a meeting at an open debate in UNSC on 'Threats to International Peace and Security Caused by Terrorist Acts' in New York on April 16, while external affairs minister Sushma Swaraj and defence minister Manohar Parrikar called for a review of China's decision to strike a common stand against terrorism.

For its part, China continued to stick to its stand, saying that its decision is based on facts and fairness.

Defending China's stand, Hua said that "we oppose double standard in counter terrorism campaign. We have been dealing with the listing (of terrorists by UN) matter in accordance with the facts and relevant resolutions.

"We are also in sound communication with all relevant parties including the Indian side," she said.

Significantly Chinese Premier Li Keqiang in his meeting with Parrikar on Tuesday said disputes should be handled properly and ties with New Delhi to be boosted, state-run China Daily reported today.

China will properly manage disputes while boosting bilateral cooperation with India, making contributions to Asia's economic growth, Li said.

Doval is scheduled to call on Li on Thursday which makes it a rare occasion for a Chinese premier to meet two top officials in such short time.

Doval and Yang are also reported to have discussed a range of issues including India's concern over $46 billion trade deficit with China in about $70 billion bilateral trade.

Misra · Post by **Misra** » 21 Apr 2016 11:42

Chinese dissidents to meet in India to seek democracy

about time

adityadange · Post by **adityadange** » 21 Apr 2016 16:01

^^^ very good move by india imo. if you call our terrorist a leader then we will also call your terrorist a leader.
next step: introduce Uyghurs to baloch

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 21 Apr 2016 16:08

NM slowly proving that we can also play the paki and lizard game.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Apr 2016 16:55

China probably feels confident that it can manage the Uyghur uprising for freedom all by itself and within the borders of China. It probably feels that it does not need to resort to UNSC 1267 where it may not find much support because of the way it has been handling the issue. So far, it has been all right. But, once a major terrorist attack happens on China and the trigger is traced to somebody or some group outside its border connected with Al Qaeda, then China will feel the pinch. That was what VK Singh indicated after the latest Lakhvi issue. China has been ruthless with the Uyghurs and the iron curtain and a repressive regime prevent the filtering out of any news. Something has to give way there or in 'deeper than the deepest ocean' Pakistan.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Apr 2016 17:19

There can be no differentiation among terrorists: India tells China - PTI

India has told China "clearly" that there cannot be any differentiation among terrorists as all are the same, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar today said, days after Beijing blocked India's bid to have Pathankot terror attack mastermind Masood Azhar designated as a terrorist by the UN.

Parrikar's comment came a day after he arrived here [New Delhi] from his five-day visit to China during which he also raised India's concerns about the presence of Chinese troops in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK), besides discussing crucial matters like boundary issues and setting up of a military hotline between DGMOs (Director Generals of Military Operations) of the two countries.

"I have expressed very clearly to them that there cannot be differentiation in terrorists. All terrorists are the same and they should be dealt with the same principle, including the issue they had obstructed at the UN. They should also deal with it in the same manner," he told reporters here.

He underlined that External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj had raised the issue in a more detailed manner in her interaction with her Chinese counterpart Wang Yi.

Parrikar said that India did not shy away from expressing its concerns to China in a clear and firm manner.

"Issue was also raised and India's concerns were presented in a clear manner. May be for the first time, it was raised clearly and firmly. Of course, they have their own justification...We did not shy away from raising our issues," he said.

Asked if China had raised the issue of India's decision to sign a logistics agreement with the US, Parrikar said, "Yes."

"They mentioned it but not with the intensity as some of the media was thinking. They definitely mentioned it and we have been very clear that India's stand on various foreign policies, including this one, is an autonomous stand and India takes these decisions based on strategic and security interest of the country," the minister said.

On the setting up of a hotline between DGMOs of the two countries, Parrikar said it will be a "reality very soon".

He said China got back with its comments on the draft proposal within six hours of his meeting with his Chinese counterpart.

The minister said the draft will go back and forth a couple of times before it is finalised.

Parrikar said the effort was also to increase border meeting points.

"The discussions were very frank, free and in a positive atmosphere. Overall, there appear to be better chances of getting things managed," he said.

He said "better communication" was the need of the hour. "We agreed to increase our interactions and better management of borders."

He said the "best solution" for border disputes was to finalise the Line of Actual Control (LAC) as different perceptions of the border leads to what is perceived as transgression.

"Because of different perceptions, technical transgression happens. We feel it is traversing, but they (Chinese troops) are just patrolling. They come and go," he said.

The minister said that such incidents had come down.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 21 Apr 2016 17:44

SSridhar wrote:China probably feels confident that it can manage the Uyghur uprising for freedom all by itself and within the borders of China. It probably feels that it does not need to resort to UNSC 1267 where it may not find much support because of the way it has been handling the issue. So far, it has been all right. But, once a major terrorist attack happens on China and the trigger is traced to somebody or some group outside its border connected with Al Qaeda, then China will feel the pinch. That was what VK Singh indicated after the latest Lakhvi issue. China has been ruthless with the Uyghurs and the iron curtain and a repressive regime prevent the filtering out of any news. Something has to give way there or in 'deeper than the deepest ocean' Pakistan.

Both Pakistan and Turkey, as well as Afghanistan, who may give sanctuary to Uyghurs, are in China's pocket, and they don't need to put pressure on them through the UNSC. If China felt that some Muslim country was willing to defy China, then it would have been different.

dsreedhar · Post by **dsreedhar** » 21 Apr 2016 21:03

A bold and master stoke against China.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 21 Apr 2016 22:36

RajeshA wrote:
SSridhar wrote: Both Pakistan and Turkey, as well as Afghanistan, who may give sanctuary to Uyghurs, are in China's pocket, and they don't need to put pressure on them through the UNSC. If China felt that some Muslim country was willing to defy China, then it would have been different.

Uyghurs , properly armed can be good assets for India to create fissures among Jihadi forces. China intervening in Syria along with Russia do not endear real Sunnis of ME/WA.They can be helpful in neutralizing many Paki agents involved in terrorism.

member_23370 · Post by **member_23370** » 21 Apr 2016 23:03

Turkey is not in chinas pocket in any way. They have their own agendas and are pissing off everyone.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 22 Apr 2016 00:12

Bheeshma wrote:Turkey is not in chinas pocket in any way. They have their own agendas and are pissing off everyone.

A couple of years ago when Uyghurs were in the news, Turkey and China had a talk, and the then FM Ahmet Davutoğlu went to Xinjiang (East Turkestan) and told the people to quiet down.

Turkey is not going to help the Uyghurs over Turkey's relationship with China.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Apr 2016 05:58

Azhar issue discussed with China, says NSA Doval - Saibal Dasgupta, ToI

In a significant move, National Security Adviser Ajit Doval has raised the issue of Pathankot attack suspect, Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar, during his talks with Chinese officials. This amounts to linking the issue with the border talks under the Special Representative mechanism, and underlines the importance India is giving to it. {I do not believe that raising the Azhar issue links it up with the resolution of border problem. For one, both Doval and his Chinese counterpart are mandated with discussing security-related matters as well apart from being the Special Representatives on the border issue. For another, linking up the issue with border problem will be detrimental to India's case because it is us who want to resolve the issue asap while the Chinese have been dragging it for decades. It will be playing into the Chinese hands if we link up these two disparate issues}

The move comes in the midst of plans for the visit of President Pranab Mukherjee, who is expected to be in China next month. Doval, who met Chinese premier Li Keqiang, said he was looking forward to the visit of the President to Beijing next month.

The President visit comes ahead of Chinese president Xi Jinping's planned visit to India to attend the BRICS Summit later this year. Besides, Prime Minister Narendra Modi is expected to attend the meeting of G20 at Hangzhou.

Doval raised the issue with Yang Jeiche, China's special representative during the 19th round of boundary talks that concluded today. The two sides discussed how to alight (sic, align?) their respective counter-terrorism strategies.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 22 Apr 2016 06:47

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/ar ... msala.html

China and India in fresh spat as Beijing demand exiled 'terrorist' Dolkun Isa be 'brought to justice' while speaking at a democracy conference in Dharamsala

The spat between India and China over sanctions on Jaish-e-Mohammad chief Masood Azhar may deepen with Beijing declaring its expectation for India to bring to justice a Chinese Uyghur exile deemed a "terrorist".The Chinese Foreign Ministry told Mail Today in a statement that Dolkun Isa, a leader of the exiled group World Uyghur Congress (WUC), who is among several Chinese exiles and dissidents invited to take part in an April 28 conference in Dharamsala, is "a terrorist" and that it is "a due obligation" of all countries to "bring him to justice".This follows reports that India has issued a visa for Isa to enable him to attend the conference, which is being organised by a United States-based organisation called Initiatives for China.It is a pro-democracy group, whose president Yang Jianli was among the student protesters at Tiananmen Square in 1989.The meeting is expected to bring together Uyghurs, Tibetans and other dissidents and exiles, under the theme of discussing democratic transformation in China.The visit of the Uyghur exile is set to create fresh strains in wake of both the sides already grappling with the Masood Azhar issue.While Dolkun Isa has not yet confirmed his attendance, reports in India say that he has been issued a visa.
This move can in no way be supported by Beijing, which has called on countries to arrest Isa and has blamed him for organising terrorist activities in the Muslim-majority western Xinjiang region, home to the Uyghurs, who are one of the 55 minorities in China.Isa was in 2009 barred from entering South Korea after appearing on a terrorist blacklist.At the time, Chinese State media reports said he was wanted by the Ministry of Public Security for bombings in Toksu, in Xinjiang, in the 1990s.
Isa left China in 1997 and was granted asylum in Germany, where he has been living ever since.
China has accused Isa’s World Uyghur Congress for fomenting violence in Xinjiang, most notably in 2009, when mass riots claimed at least 197 lives.The WUC has rejected the charges, saying it is working to highlight repression faced by Uyghur minorities.On the Dharamsala meeting, the Foreign Ministry spokesperson in Beijing said in the statement to Mail Today, “I am not aware of the situation”. The statement added: “What I want to point out is that Dolkun Isa is a terrorist on the red notice of Interpol and the Chinese police. Bringing him to justice is a due obligation of relevant countries”. This comes in the wake of National Security Adviser Ajit Doval’s talks in Beijing on the Azhar issue, with both sides taking up the discussion on how to better align their counter-terrorism strategies amid recent differences.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Apr 2016 16:10

The Chinese Hole in India's Trade

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Apr 2016 06:45

India-China border dispute: 'Fair and reasonable' solution needed, says Beijing - PTI

China and India should "meet each other halfway" to reach a "fair and reasonable" political solution to the border dispute acceptable to both sides, the Chinese foreign ministry has said in an indication of Beijing's willingness to make concessions on the vexed issue.

As National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, who along with his Chinese counterpart Yang Jiechi held border talks, concluded his visit here, China said in a statement that both sides had indepth and candid exchanges on the boundary question, bilateral relations and relevant international and regional issues.

"Both sides agreed that the negotiation on China-India boundary maintains a positive momentum, with boundary disputes effectively controlled and boundary regions generally peaceful and stable," said the statement on the boundary talks held on April 20-21.

"Starting from the big picture of long-term development of bilateral relations, both sides will, with the positive attitude of mutual respect and understanding and on the basis of existing results from negotiations, stay on the track of political settlement, stick to peaceful negotiations to resolve the boundary question, meet each other halfway and continue to promote the process of framework negotiation so as to strive for a fair and reasonable solution that both sides accept," the statement posted on the foreign ministry website said.

China has rarely publicly talked about meeting India "half way" on the vexed boundary dispute.

The reference to both the countries to stay on track for a political settlement is seen as significant as officials on both sides say negotiations have reached a stage for the political leadership on both sides to take a decision to reach a solution.

Doval's predecessor, Shivshankar Menon, who represented India in several rounds of the border talks, said in 2014 during a meeting here that all the technical work has been done and it is for the leaders of both the countries to take a call.

"In the meantime, the two countries should properly manage and handle disputes, strengthen consultations on boundary affairs and well safeguard peace and tranquillity in boundary regions so as to create favourable conditions for the development of bilateral relations," the statement said.

It said both sides shared the view that the development of China-India relations is of great significance and has broad prospects.

"China and India have far more common interests than differences. Marked by President Xi Jinping's visit to India in 2014 and the visit paid by Prime Minister Narenda Modi of India to China in 2015, China-India relations have entered a new era of comprehensive and rapid development," it said.

"Communication and cooperation in various fields have also achieved important progress. The two sides should well implement the key consensus reached by the two heads of state, conduct close high-level exchanges and tap cooperation potential, so as to elevate China-India relations to a higher level," the statement said.

In New Delhi, external affairs ministry Spokesperson Vikas Swarup, on the border talks, said, "Discussions focussed on two broad issues -- one -- efforts to find a fair, reasonable and mutually acceptable solution to the boundary question -- and two --maintenance of peace and tranquillity in the border areas."

"On the first matter, both sides are discussing a framework and the 19th round carried forward these discussions. On the second issue, both sides agreed that no major incident had taken place in the last several months," Swarup said.

"They discussed various means to strengthen peace and tranquillity in the border areas. In this context both sides agreed to establish a hotline between the two armed forces and we will now work out the modalities. The NSA also exchanged views on various regional and international issues of mutual interest," he said.

On the border dispute, officials on both sides say the protracted boundary talks made progress and that they also made attempts to avert tensions along the disputed border.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Apr 2016 11:21

China upset after Uighur leader given visa for Dharamshala meet - The Hindu

A UNPO {Unrepresented Peoples & Nations Organization} statement of April 20 acknowledged that “Citizen Power for China is about to hold its 11th Interethnic and Interfaith Leadership Conference, which brings together Tibetans, Uighurs, Mongols, and Han Chinese, as well as Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, and Falun Gong practitioners, leaders of the Hong Kong Umbrella Protest movement, and representatives from Macau and Taiwan, as well as statesmen, scholars, and officials of major human rights NGOs.”

Advocating a regime change, it pointed out that these conferences “mark the first successful attempt to unite leaders from all of these ethnic, religious and regional groups and human rights advocates to work jointly to press for changing the Chinese Communist Party dictatorship”.

Mr. Isa said he was looking forward to his first trip to India which has “thousands of years of cultural, spiritual, and economic ties with the East Turkestan [Xinjiang] region of China. Mr. Isa, who began his activism as a student leader at Xinjiang University during the 1980s, was part of the series of student movements that took place in China before the crackdown on pro-democracy protesters in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square.

“We want self-determination of the Uighur people from China’s rule. The Uighur homeland is historically known as East Turkestan but Beijing calls it Xinjiang, which means ‘New Land’ or ‘New Body’.

“We do not agree even with the Chinese name of our homeland,” Mr. Isa told The Hindu .

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 23 Apr 2016 11:49

SSridhar wrote:India-China border dispute: 'Fair and reasonable' solution needed, says Beijing - PTI

It means give them Arunachal + Ladakh, Cheenis are Masters of Deception.

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 23 Apr 2016 11:58

Is it right time to play Uighur card by India against China? Our military is one of the strongest in the world, but is it strong enough to stand against China? At very first moment this step gives me deep satisfaction that we are showing middle finger to this Harami country. But thinking deeper this may not be very wise decision. Supporting Tibet independence makes 100% perfect decision. But when it comes to supporting any Jihadi org anywhere in the world, it should be done after thinking 1000 times over and over again.

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 23 Apr 2016 12:18

Jhujar wrote:Uyghurs , properly armed can be good assets for India to create fissures among Jihadi forces. China intervening in Syria along with Russia do not endear real Sunnis of ME/WA.They can be helpful in neutralizing many Paki agents involved in terrorism.

Jhujar Ji, properly armed Uighurs could be danger to Central Asia and Russia as well. Xinjiang borders with Kazakhstan, in turn western Kazakhstan sits next to Chechnya. If Jihadi-Jihadi bhai bhai game is played successfully by chechen + Kazakh and Uighur jihadis, there is a great potential of one massive Jihadi strip starting from Chechnya and ending up in Xinjiang, This is what concerns me, this step by us may not be liked by Kazakh's and Russian's as well. US and West will most probably support us as destabilization around Russian borders gives them satisfaction. So far Kazakhstan is successful in suppressing Jihadi ugly head within their country due to massive state control over the country. There is a long list of Jihadi groups just waiting for right moment in Kazakhstan.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Apr 2016 12:40

jagga wrote:Is it right time to play Uighur card by India against China? Our military is one of the strongest in the world, but is it strong enough to stand against China? At very first moment this step gives me deep satisfaction that we are showing middle finger to this Harami country. But thinking deeper this may not be very wise decision. Supporting Tibet independence makes 100% perfect decision. But when it comes to supporting any Jihadi org anywhere in the world, it should be done after thinking 1000 times over and over again.

jagga, two things. Granting a visa to Dolkun Isa is not going to lead to war.

Then, on supporting jihad, I agree with you. But, not every Uyghur is a member of ETIM organization. The World Uyghur Conference, led by exiled Ms. Rebiya Kadeer, has been leading a peaceful protest against the Chinese occupation of Xinjiang. Ms. Kadeer was a even a member of the National Peoples' Conference (Chinese equivalent of our Parliament) before she was arrested, jailed for six years and then exiled. She lives in Washington, DC. Dolkun Isa is her deputy and was given asylum in Germany and lives in Munich where World Uyghur Conference is headquartered.

Let us remember the following.

Though it is well known for a long time about the Chinese support for various insurgent groups operating in the North East, the Chief of the IB, Nehchal Sandhu openly raised the issue in the conference of police chiefs from across the country on September 15, 2011. He accused Beijing of ‘intrusive interest’ in these insurgent groups. In March 2013, the Minister of State for home affairs M Ramachandran said in the Parliament, “. . . there are reports that the insurgent groups operating in the north eastern states of India have been augmenting their armoury by acquiring arms from China and Sino-Myanmar border towns and routing them through Myanmar. The government of India has taken up the matter with the Chinese side through diplomatic channels.” On June 4, 2015, NSCN(Khaplang) militants attacked an army convoy of 6 Dogras in Manipur's Chandel district killing 18 soldiers and injuring 11. Though India retributed the loss through a stunning Special Forces attack on the NSCN(K) insurgent camps well inside Myanmar and killing over 70 of them, Indian media accused that the NSCN(K) was egged on by the PLA to launch the attack on 6 Dogras.

One of India’s most-wanted armed insurgent leaders, Paresh Barua of United Liberation Front of Asom (Independent), has been found to be living in the Chinese town of Ruili in the Yunnan province. On November 7, 2015, the London-based Mukul Hazarika alias Abhijeet Borman alias Abhijeet Asom, Chairman of the ULFA(I) sought the Chinese assistance openly for the liberation of Assam. He told Times of India, “China is our next-door neighbour. Despite Indian occupation of Nan Zang (south Tibet), China is trying to maintain status quo for the sake of peaceful coexistence. At the same time, it remains ambivalent on the plight of indigenous Assam, except occasional voicing by Chinese citizen in support of Assam's legitimate claim in print. But, without taking a first step, there won't be any progress. The watershed moment has arrived for indigenous Assam to prompt us to build that friendship with China with confidence. We sincerely hope that China will put forward the hand of friendship towards Assam without hesitation.” In December 2015, Thailand extradited Wuthikorn Naruenartwanich alias Willy, a Thai arms dealer who was a go-between between the Chinese arms suppliers and the Indian insurgents. The details of Willy’s role emerged after NIA (National Intelligence Agency) arrested senior leader of Naga insurgent group NSCN (IM) Anthony Shimray, a nephew of NSCN founder T. Muivah and IM faction’s chief arms procurer. Shimray was arrested in 2010 in Patna, when he had come to India from Bangkok via Nepal. He startlingly said that the Chinese agents in 2009 had even offered to sell surface-to-air missiles to the Naga rebels for $1 million.

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 23 Apr 2016 12:52

SSridhar Ji, Yes this is not going to lead to war. This will make the relationship just little more tense, and it concerns me a little. India standing up to this deceptive country is something gives satisfaction. Thanks for providing recent background on the issue.

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 23 Apr 2016 13:40

China’s Masood Azhar snub: India gets back with visa for rebel Uyghur leader on Beijing blacklist

India had recently also issued a visa to Baloch nationalist leader Naela Qadri Baloch, who lives in self-exile in Canada. Baloch leaders in exile are viewed as secessionists by Pakistan’s establishment.

Seems like Baloch secessionists will also join.

Yang Jiani, Tiananmen Square activist is also coming

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 23 Apr 2016 13:50

Secessionist's getting shelter in far away western countries is one thing but when this happens in a country which is right next to your door and is considered enemy and does that, this is like giving massive dose of Andhra Lal Mirchi in musharraf.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Apr 2016 15:02

We are not even returning in kind one-hundredth of what we have received from China over decades.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 23 Apr 2016 15:14

There is no Lal Mirchi in Andra. It is called Guntur Mirchi. Very Very and Buring hot. NM and AD seem to be planning that for both China and Pakis.

Not all the doses on visible. For example, 440$ was fixed on the minimum price for Steel import into India. China lost Indian market, and Indian units have increased production in March. The units were also informed that the 6 months relief granted will be extended based on the international conditions and China actions. This is not even reported.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Apr 2016 16:32

The Indian visa for a WUC member to attend the Dharmashala meet organized by the Dalai Lama suggests to me that China has flatly refused to reconsider its decision on Masood Azhar.

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 23 Apr 2016 21:00

It's not going to do anything of such sort. Consider this most of the prominent Uighur separatists live in Germany. PRC has a thriving trade with Germany. Osama Bin Laden was found and killed less than 50kms from Pakistan Military Academy. Till date USA and Pakistan have a thriving trade relation. This action will not change PRC's attitude or behaviour. It will be a different story if India were to have an alliance with Japan.

member_23370 · Post by **member_23370** » 23 Apr 2016 21:10

To me what this says is that Arihant is ready with K-4 missiles in place and Aridaman is about to set off on sea trials. A-5 canister launch should also be imminent with induction to follow.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 24 Apr 2016 17:05

Here's the religious lever I was talking about:

"China must be on guard against foreign infiltration through religion and stop “extremists” spreading their ideology, President Xi Jinping told a top-level meeting on managing religion, state media reported on Sunday.

China must also manage the internet to promote the Communist Party’s religious theories and policies, the official Xinhua news agency cited Xi as saying.

"http://www.hindustantimes.com/world/chi ... YHnJJ.html

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 24 Apr 2016 17:55

SSridhar wrote:We are not even returning in kind one-hundredth of what we have received from China over decades.

The hype about this Uighur thing and how India's pacifists think its a great snub (not withstanding that in the cowardly GOI milieu, for Modi to push this would have been a big deal..)..

"A man is going home in his new car. Thugs stop him and ask for money. He says, wallet empty. Thugs say, we will now teach you a lesson and smash up your car. Better not intervene. Here is a circle within which you better stand. Car gets broken up, man starts laughing. Bystander asks, sir - your car is gone, why are you laughing? Man says, see, see I stepped outside the circle".

Anyways, baby steps. At least NaMO did this.

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 25 Apr 2016 13:15

U-Turn By GOI
Dolkun Isa says China may have pressured India to cancel his visa

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Apr 2016 13:39

Home Ministry confirms cancellation of Uighur-Chinese leader's visa - Kallol Bhattacharjee, The Hindu

Indian visa for Dolkun Isa, exiled Uighur-Chinese leader wanted by Beijing, has been cancelled, sources in the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) confirmed to The Hindu on Monday.

Officials said that the visa was cancelled on finding out that the Electronic Tourist Visa that Mr. Isa had applied for and received was invalid for addressing public meetings in India. However, they said that they would issue him a fresh visa if he applied under appropriate category.

Earlier, Mr. Isa, claimed that he had received an email stating that the Indian visa issued to him was cancelled.

“I really wanted to visit India. But I received an email on Saturday, informing that my visa that was issued on April 6 has been cancelled. No explanations were given. No Indian official called me personally to convey this decision. It’s a very sad situation for us,” Mr. Isa told The Hindu, sounding disappointed over the phone from Berlin.

Mr. Isa, who heads the World Uighur Congress (WUC), a global organisation for the Uighurs in Xinxiang province of . western China, was scheduled to participate in a major international conference of anti-Beijing activists at Dharamsala, Himachal Pradesh, between April 28 and May 1.

Mr. Isa is preparing in Berlin for a conference on the rights of Uighur refugees to be held on Monday and Tuesday. “Participants from 15 countries arrived for the conference in Berlin and I was looking forward to travel to Delhi next,” he told The Hindu.

He claimed that a Washington D.C.-based Uighur participant for the Dharamsala conference has also been informed of visa cancellation. {Was it Ms. Rebiya Kabeer herself?} “I hope other participants at this conference get to travel and at least the larger story of our oppression is not lost to India,” he said.

Mr. Isa had requested adequate security for the trip to Delhi and Dharamsala during which he wanted to meet Indian leaders and civil society activists.

Granting of visa to Mr. Isa triggered a war of words between India and China as the permission for Mr. Isa, was perceived as a counter-measure by India after China stopped India’s U.N. campaign to blacklist Pakistan-based terror mastermind Maulana Masood Azhar of Jaish-e-Mohammed.

However while talking to The Hindu, Mr. Isa reiterated that he remained committed to non-violence.

Despite the emailed cancellation of his Indian visa, Mr. Isa said that he looked forward to engaging Indian audience in future.

In an e-mailed statement to UNI, Dolkun says, he should not be compared with Maulana Masood Azhar. Here is what he said ....

As the Executive Committee Chairman of the World Uyghur Congress (WUC), I express my disappointment on Indian authorities’ cancellation of my visa to attend the annual Interethnic Interfaith Leadership Conference taking place in Dharamsala, India, from April 30 to May 1, 2016. This conference remains a vital forum through which ethnic and religious communities in China related areas, as well as statesmen, scholars and activists are able to meet openly to discuss and exchange ideas, promote peaceful dialogue, and reinforce bonds between disparate communities.

The Indian had granted me a tourist e-visa, but it was cancelled after my visit was widely reported in the Indian press. Following numerous reports, Indian authorities then proceeded to rescind the visa on April 23, 2016. I recognize and understand the difficult position that the Indian government found itself, and regrets that my trip has generated such unwarranted controversy.

This is not the first time that I have had faced difficulties in my international travels to advocates Uyghur rights. In September 2009, I was detained briefly and denied entry to South Korea while travelling to attend the World Forum for Democratization in Asia, to which I was an invited guest. China also has regularly attempted to block or interfere with my human rights work at the UN in Geneva, in particular.

I also reject any comparison or association to China’s recent veto by the UN Security Council Sanctions Committee of Pakistani militant leader, Mazood Azhar. Such an unjustifiable comparison seeks only to delegitimize my decades of impassioned work as a strictly non-violent campaigner for Uyghur rights.

Historically speaking, the Uyghur community has maintained friendly ties with the Indian people. The Indian government hosted our late leader, Isa Yusuf Alptekin and Uyghur refugees after they fled China in 1949.

Finally, I would like to thank the Indian people for their determined solidarity and commitment to rights activists like myself who wish to continue to develop and support dialogue among peoples of all faiths and ethnic backgrounds. I remain disappointed with the final decision, but I am hopeful that positive steps may be taken to maintain India’s relationship with the Uyghur community.

I therefore wish the conference success and hope that meaningful dialogue will take place between those who have the privileged of participating the upcoming conference.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Apr 2016 13:54

I am disappointed with the cancellation of the visa to WUC leaders.

Even if a quid-pro-quo had been achieved with China on the Masood Azhar case, there is no guarantee that China would not behave the same way when the names of other terrorist jihadis are brought up before the 1267 Committee in due course of time. Past Chinese behaviour has been that it blocked Indian moves every time.

India should have gone ahead with the visa and the conference and should have told China that it would reciprocate in future, based on Chinese behaviour.

Now, we will be again at the mercy of China for the next round of name inclusions even if Masood Azhar goes through in June. Even that is uncertain. At the same time, we have lost our credibility with the WUC and they may be wary in future to accept Indian assurances. The ASEAN countries, many of whom are looking up to India would not be very amused. Definitely not the Indian citizens.

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 25 Apr 2016 14:29

WoW history repeats itself. In the Kargil war then too the BJP lead NDA did not have the guts to cross the LoC despite being asked for by the armed forces. And now once again GoI crumbles and cancels the e-tourist visa given to the "Dolkun Isa". Lovely. Just lovely. Whats next, roll back of the LSA with USA? With spines like this what next can be expected.

ShauryaT · Post by **ShauryaT** » 25 Apr 2016 18:22

Yes, cheered the act too early. This is worse than not giving a Visa in the first place. Modi will rightly receive all kinds of taunts for these immature retraction. I keep on asking, where is my nationalist government? Kowtowing in the face of PRC threats is a sure shot sign to the region on who is boss. Middle Kingdom's objectives achieved.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 25 Apr 2016 18:30

Looks to me that govt of India in the initial instance acted hastily in saying they will give this guy a visa. Then when that Interpol alert surfaced, India has to do downhill skiing. Its bad which ever way you cut it, they should not have invited this guy in the first place. They should have found some other way to stick it to China for their support of TSP's pigLeTs. China, US, and TSP will be laughing their arses off.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Apr 2016 18:35

CRS, this guy lives in Germany. Why hasn't Germany acted on the RCN?