Levant crisis - III

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I wonder if a Russian general will get fired. Prolly not.......although he may have a lethal heart attack.......
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OH-58Ds equipped with precishun weppuns would do it. :mrgreen:
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its a smallish area , they probably hit it with grads and the combustible stuff burned, rest of rockets hit earth or concrete with no burn marks
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......meanwhile back at the ranch.......

the US and various friends are going after Raqqa Syria.......

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-t ... ia-n579366

this comes two days after the uscencomm visited for a talky walky and rah rah session......so I think the fur is about to fly.......
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vijaykarthik wrote:Funny. I wonder hw the IS just about accidentally manages to destroy a strategic Syrian airbase that Russia used recently, in Syria.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36366664

How?
Denied by RuMOD already

http://tass.ru/en/defense/877805
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yes the syrians nearly lost that base a while back (it is located west of palmyra) as the IS attacked from north...I believe they were pushed back somehow and fighting continues up north in Shaer and Jabal gas fields. some russian marines are seen in pics helping the tiger forces.
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>> the US and various friends are going after Raqqa Syria.......

long overdue imo but dont they want to roll up manbij and link up with deir azzor from shahdadi first to cut off many escape routes for the rats.or perhaps the idea is to bypass all side shows and go for a :thunder run: baghdad style right into the Emir's palace in Raqqa - induce panic with directness and rapidity of movement. :idea: - however the kurds and arab tribes are far from being a us army corps in weight and mobility and air support...let alone training levels.
on positiv neuj side the terrain is flat dry desert with no hills or wadis or rivers ... so kurd columns can easily bypass strongpoints and make for the Emirs den. this they did in shahdadi offensive also...mop ups continued for a long time. amriki drones and satellites should be able to tip them off to ISIS movements.

first sign of success will be if the zombies camped around deir azzor suddenly disappear one morning and head north to protect helms deep @ raqqa
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regular updates on the progress of the SDF in raqqa - they are aiming for northern raqqa state not the city for now.

https://twitter.com/drpartizan_
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Singha wrote:regular updates on the progress of the SDF in raqqa - they are aiming for northern raqqa state not the city for now.

https://twitter.com/drpartizan_
if and when Raqqa is secured by the US and the Kurds, Assad will have to pay hobb to ever rule it again.

I find it highly ironic that CENTCOM is the new Saladin for the Kurds.

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LoL turkey will not like it one bit.
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TSJones wrote:I wonder if a Russian general will get fired. Prolly not.......although he may have a lethal heart attack.......


Or he could be `pattonised` in a car accident.
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looks like the end-game for IS in syria/iraq is nigh... and focus shifts to the sahel.
however, the re-partitioning of the levant is also nigh
its not out of the realms of possibility that the kurdish resurgence is also directed at iran...
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https://twitter.com/Furiouskurd/status/ ... 4254376960

NATO ally FSA forms burqa clad Sharia womens batallion to fight the other NATO ally YPJ who wear pants and shirts.
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Burqa-clad battal-lion
Aha! So Official Pakistani assistance has finally arrived: The Pakistan Army of Islam.

All this joy over the Bag-daddy run to Raqqa is a bit silly. First, there is no "Emir" sitting in Raqqa - must have moved long ago to Turkey or maybe Libya. Or Chad. Or Mali. Or Sudan. Or, most probably, Karachi.

Secondly, a run into Raqqa will encounter severe IED attacks plus shiv's 'pakidrone' attacks.
Thirdly, the US may take photoOps of flag being planted in downtown Raqqa, but THEN the battle will really start.

All in all, pointless waste of a lot of lives. Now if we could persuade the good general to run his armored divisions straight through Ankara, THAT might end the war a lot quicker. Half of Turkey will join on his side. 90% in short order. They just need to make sure they leave enough lampposts standing.
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Look at the video of the Russian planes at this link on NATO rushing to liberate Raqqa.

See the part where the Russians are loading a bomb under the wing of an aircrat: They use a hand-operated lift!! No servo motors with battery back etc. No conveyor belt. This must add a long time to the loading of every weapon, but it will work with minimal logistics, in any place. How do they get a 1000lb bomb aligned exactly to attach I wonder.
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UlanBatori wrote:
Burqa-clad battal-lion
Aha! So Official Pakistani assistance has finally arrived: The Pakistan Army of Islam.

All this joy over the Bag-daddy run to Raqqa is a bit silly. First, there is no "Emir" sitting in Raqqa - must have moved long ago to Turkey or maybe Libya. Or Chad. Or Mali. Or Sudan. Or, most probably, Karachi.

Secondly, a run into Raqqa will encounter severe IED attacks plus shiv's 'pakidrone' attacks.
Thirdly, the US may take photoOps of flag being planted in downtown Raqqa, but THEN the battle will really start.

All in all, pointless waste of a lot of lives. Now if we could persuade the good general to run his armored divisions straight through Ankara, THAT might end the war a lot quicker. Half of Turkey will join on his side. 90% in short order. They just need to make sure they leave enough lampposts standing.
the kurds may find that your geo political perspective inhales very bad air....... :)

.....and as for Assad, the kurds maybe singing this........good bye to you

Of all the things I've believed in
I just want to get it over with
Tears from behind my eyes but I do not cry
Counting the days pass me by
I've been searchin' deep down in my soul
Words that I'm hearin' are starting to get old
It feels like I'm startin' all over again
The last three years were just pretend
And I said
Goodbye to you
Goodbye to everything that I knew

oh heck I'll let Patty Smyth and Scandal knock it out.....

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The only relevant poem is by Sheikh Bill Bin Speare:
ISIS, US, AlQaeda
When shall we three meet again
In Syria, Eyerak or Yemen?
There is ONE very easy step that AlObama can take if he is serious about winning against ISIS: Announce closure and withdrawal from Incirlik Air Base. First pull out all air superiority fighters and fighter-bombers.

Surely the money saved can buy the nose landing gear for an F-35?
In one stroke, Erdogan and his ISIS gang will be toppled. Once a serious secular government is back in power in Turkey, the US can go back in.
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STRATFOR exposed?
Warfare Worldwide ‏@WarfareWW 18h18 hours ago
ELA analysys of .@Stratfor sat pics of T4 base shows signs of a digital modification (undamaged helicopters added)
Al-Masdar News ‏@TheArabSource 11h11 hours ago
#Palmyra airbase to be soon available for Syrian, Russian aircraft http://bit.ly/1s9S29Z #Russia #Syria
But then...
Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel May 24
Leith Abou Fadel Retweeted Al-Masdar News
Breaking: ISIS has just captured Tal Sawanah near the T-4 Airport in east Homs
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There is definitely a pattern for stratfor free articles :mrgreen: ... don't need much thought as to who wants you to think what :D
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some items found in a Daesh den in iraq

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zam zam cola?
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TSJi!
https://www.rt.com/usa/344529-special-f ... sis-raqqa/

US Special Forces accompanying Kurds on the stroll to Raqqa.
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I have no idea who those people are depicted in the above photos.

it is highly illegal to impersonate our peaceful, fun loving US troops and against the Geneva convention.

we Americans are wary of war after having suffered ignominious defeat in Iraq and Afghanistan and we no longer fight in the ME.

our guys are way behind the front lines reviewing and monitoring the plan that has been laid out by CENTCOM er, Saladin.....

the Kurds may choose to follow their own plan if they wish.........it is completely up to them........
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per latest reports the JN enclave in north aleppo is on point of collapse and being rolled over the Daesh. IS frontline is now allegedly 500m from Azaz. contact between YPG and ISIS on this front is imminent.
turkey seems to have achieved its secondary goal as vast amounts of unused weapons have been captured intact by the ISIS, so the pot will be kept boiling for sure. if the azaz ramparts fall, the defeated JN and friends will probably relocate via turkey back to Idlib.

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petolucems map of the same situation
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meantime two large formations of Govt forces in Iraq have encircled Falluja from the N and S. the peripheral areas have been cleaned up and careful probes into the main urban area in progress.

this would be the last major Daesh "Quila" along the euphrates valley other than Qaim on the syrian border. if Falluja falls more reinforcements could move north to areas west of Mosul and clean up last vestiges of Daesh around tharthar lake also on the way up. a cottage industry of making weapons and bombs had come up on these empty stretches.

as usual , manpower is the limiting factor.
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Jenan Moussa ‏@jenanmoussa May 27
Some people in #Azaz now scared ISIS has sleeper cells inside &will take their town same way. Some believe rebels strong enough to defend.


Jenan Moussa ‏@jenanmoussa May 27
ISIS took many villages in #Azaz pocket by surprise due to sleeper cells, who suddenly took over villages & let ISIS in from East side
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falluja vbied factory
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjfhOvWWUAAJ-Fk.jpg

collection of 50 IEDs defused
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjfhmjiXIAAhJhb.jpg

as I mentioned, making IEDs is a cottage industry in daesh countryside parts of iraq - same way people weave saris, lungis and gamchas in india or build metalware and ceramics.
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Terrorists' Negotiator quits
Backed by the United States
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Bissing Contest just got louder: Iran bans citizens from Haj pilgrimage.

Wonder how this is going to play - even inside Iran! Seems like the Eyeranian guvrmand has just played into the hands of the Saudi murderers. What if KSA does not react at all? Or says: Good riddance to the Shiite kuffar?

Can Iran orchestrate a worldwide Shia boycott of Mecca and create an alternative Ramadan center? Will Shias put nationalism above the holiest of Islamic belief?
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I always thought that the ultimate fate of Kaaba is to be a peripatetic relic which is exhibited in a different country each year.
When it comes to India yindoos too can worship the blackstone by anointing it with oil,ghee,turmeric,vermilion ityadi claiming it to be a shiv linga while the Indian Muslims will be circumambulating it.
The lesser fate is it will be broken again by some khwarij and the pieces scattered into different countries as individual relics.

Else some enterprising group can steal it, put it inside a rejigged ballistic missile and send it into the sun so that Muslims will come a full circle and start praying at the sun.

The blood sucking haj pilgrimage can then be safely wound up.
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Najaf and Karbala can be the shia makkah
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Lilo, at least one US Senator has publicly (and I am sure hundreds of COTUSppl and generals privately) suggested another alternative. Involves returning most of that locality to its Original State, i.e., radioactive, radiant plasma. At this point at least 4 of the Permanent Members of the UNSC might vote for that.
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near monopolies do not diminish overnight or by fiat....it withers slowly on the vine as other points of attraction emerge. AT&T, GM, MSFT.... Iran-Iraq needs to work on developing their cash balances and attractiveness of Shia places of pilgrimage to be alternative power centers and break the saudi monopoly for good. +ve reinforcement is better than -ve.
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