Levant crisis - III

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Yilmaz Kaya ‏@Yilmaz_Kaya_ 13h13 hours ago
Reports that 9-month old Syrian baby who was raped by a Turkish imam lost her life.
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Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 13h13 hours ago
YPG hand over positions in Hasakah to Asayish and are sent to Shadadi to repel large IS attack

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 13h13 hours ago
At 9:00 local time wounded/martyred will be transferred to Qamishli and SAA-YPG begin prisoner swap
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IS has done SAA a good turn by attacking Shahdadi...taste for stirring things up in Hasakeh has gone down.

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 14h14 hours ago
Syrian State TV confirms end to fighting in Hasakah after implementation of ceasefire, roads from Hasakah to countryside + Qamishli are open
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Barzani is the US munna who runs kurdistani iraq and tolerates a turkish base inside iraq also. the YPG & PKK seem to dislike him.

Kurdistan24 English ‏@K24English 14h14 hours ago
UPDATE: @masoud_barzani reaches #Turkey in unannounced visit
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meantime Iraqis continue to roll up IS from the south - iraqi army + HASHD PMU + american trained local CT units

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 17h17 hours ago
Iraqi sources announce capture of al-Qiyyarah centre by Iraqi Army's 37th Armoured Brigade of the 9th Division
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it is 80km south of mosul. there are two routes of advance - a populated belt up the tigris river and NH1 via edge of western desert with no towns at all. so in a way it resembles the american march on baghdad...the marines had to fight their up the tigris all the way, while us army went through western route in the desert

I think iraqis will take both routes...bottle up and isolate ISIS units in the populated belt while sending armour units to Mosul directly to establish blocking positions & supply depots on routes going into the western desert and to Tal Afar.
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OFFICIAL POSITION OF SYRIAN MILITARY, ON KURD IRRITANTS
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'Syrian Arab Army unofficial page, on the recent conflict in Hasaka: "We were asked about the Syrian military command's view of the Kurdish militias; and we replied by the same thing every Syrian official said: "Any power on the ground that battles for a unified and stable Syria is not an enemy, and will not be seen as an enemy."
Today, there are two types of Kurdish demands in Syria, one part of these militias are holding ground against ISIS and are on good terms with the Syrian command, and Syrian intelligence, thus ultimately with the Syrian Armed Forces; all they want is a future recognition of their heritage and culture in the areas of their presence without any dissociation from Syria as a unified country; which is a right the Syrian command promised to grant.
However the other side are the PKK who are not Syrians at first place, although they might have some Syrian members, who took advantage of the war in Syria, and are trying to control Syrian cities in order to divide and take the Northeast of Syria; those will be fought against, and will be defeated at all cost."
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Rat carcasses bring threat of epidemic

thousands of dead rats raising hell of a stink
http://en.ria.ru/middleeast/20160823/10 ... rpses.html
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a innovative idea of using the irani base without moving the entire ground support infra of russia would be
- takeoff from mozdok ossetia - bomb syria - land in iran - refuel & rearm and rest for 1 day
- take from iran - bomb syria - fly home

this might permit a 1.5x kind of tempo over always staging from russia and still avoid the need for limited refuelers. no need for any major service crews in iran - just basic ground crew, armourers and refueling crew. a FARP & recovery base thing.

these heavies seem to need about 2-3 days of service after every mission, so its not like they fly daily. same goes for b52 & b1 probably. they fly fewer missions than fighters but far longer missions....but the pack the bite of a squadron of fighters when its time to go big.
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btw Iraq this week executed 36 rats accused of being part of the infamous Camp Speicher massacre.
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After the red line is shovelled straight up theirs a** :D
Turkey Special Forces under name of FSA are preparing for invasion in Syria(Jarablus) for Nth number of times.
It remains to be seen if its just sabre-rattling just like hundreds of times in past.
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the bolu and bingol commando brigades of turk army who operate along syria border both had their commanders jailed post-coup along with many other formations. one of these might have been source of the 25 who failed to capture erdogan in the beach resort, fled and were later captured in the woods.
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Aleppo 'open-corridor' resembles more like one-window shortcut.


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Turkey has made its move.

5000 jihadis backed by turk tanks and arty have taken jarablous. Ypg has withdrawn. Turks aim to create 90km long and 40km deep buffer inside syria from marea near aleppo to jarablous to block rojava on turk border.
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This buffet will be staffed by pro turki jihadis from 20 different fronts.

Remains to be seen if turkey will give up aleppo now in exchange for saa not oposing this.

Ypg big loser in this great game....
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agitpapa ‏@agitpapa
+always gives theirs macho names like "hammer, steel, dawn, storm." This is US-designed -approved & -chaperoned from the get go.


agitpapa ‏@agitpapa
The name of the Turkish occupation of Syrian territory - "Euphrates Shield" - is a dead giveaway. Only NATO & US calls ops "Shield." Turks+
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The 'Nimr' Tiger ‏@Souria4Syrians
Large number of jihadist mercenaries abandoning #Aleppo fronts & heading to join Jarabulus OP due to 'high wages'
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Easier opponents too...not hezbollah and tiger forces plus full nato air and intel support with turk 155mm guns ..whats not to like
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Furiouskurd ‏@Furiouskurd
USA betrayed Kurds in 1975 and 1991. Is 2016 another year where USA abandon Kurds..

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Jarablus was planned by Turkey and ISIS. Otherwise why would ISIS just leave the city without a fight? It's not ISIS style

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ISIS fought till death against Kurdish forces, but against turkey they simply packed their stuff and left.
Turkey=ISIS
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Singha wrote:Easier opponents too...not hezbollah and tiger forces plus full nato air and intel support with turk 155mm guns ..whats not to like
I have to say singha u have a sense of humor boss :D
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this is why they left open aleppo 'humanitarian corridor' ?? for humanitarian transfer of terrorists.

man .. the americans have a wicked sense of humor.
show babies crawling all over aleppo on tv and wrangle humanitarian corridor for transfer of terrorists.

last heard biden has rushed to turkey. wonder what is the latest sinister plan they are upto.
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With rats redeploying near Jarabulus, I would expect that southern Aleppo will be retaken by the SAA & it's allies in weeks if not days. Don't be surprised that puppets in Aleppo or any where else make a deal with the Syrian govt. and turn their backs on the americans. It's going to get real ugly.

A silver lining does appear for the SAA. Reports indicate that a significant numbers of rats left Latakia and Aleppo to join Jarablus campaign; which may be complete in a week or two time. Therefore, Damascus has a limited opportunity to act.

On the other hand, daesh withdrew large number of fighters from Manbij (about 700) and Jarablus (apprx around 1,000), who will likely apply heavy pressure on Kweires. Air cover will be paramount for SAA in Kweires.
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The Russians and Syrians should have bombed the humane corridor. ****** the world response. No one cares about crimea. take the goddamm city and then wory about world response.
Like I mentioned previously , i am really astounded at what the Russians are up to. They are soon going to lose their ally if they keep giving these mofos an inch
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I think the explanation is that Russia knows it's playing an incredibly weak hand and cannot force the issue. Unless the Russians are willing to go nuclear, they have miniscule combat power vs. US\Turkey\GCC combo. They have to walk a very fine line by using clever diplomacy and back-door dealings to make up for their military weakness. I'm rooting for Russia, too, but the reality is they're running a huge bluff and they know it. So far Russia has been incredibly successful at punching above their weight, but in the end they really are an economy the size of Italy with only a fraction of NATO's conventional combat power and force projection.
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Syrians can clean up Aleppo if they act fast. That would be pro-quid-quo for Turkish invasion of Syria.
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Y.Kanan, so you are saying that upon returning from Moskow (emphasis, Erdo went to Moskow, Pooteen did not visit Istanbul), he feels so confident that he can show his teeth without expecting any consequences?? C'mon on....it is very tough to believe that. In fact Russians, may have trapped YooS and Erdo in a awkward position (and I wonder that is why Bye-den visiting him). Forget Erdo's territorial ambitions, and regardless of who you are rooting for, i bet Erdo is thinking that the opportunity to eliminate or severely minimize curdish threat is now and it may not happen with YooS blessing/partnership (fortunately or unfortunately), knowing fully well that YooS has not shied away from supporting independent curdish nation/state....
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Y. Kanan wrote:I think the explanation is that Russia knows it's playing an incredibly weak hand and cannot force the issue. Unless the Russians are willing to go nuclear, they have miniscule combat power vs. US\Turkey\GCC combo. They have to walk a very fine line by using clever diplomacy and back-door dealings to make up for their military weakness. I'm rooting for Russia, too, but the reality is they're running a huge bluff and they know it. So far Russia has been incredibly successful at punching above their weight, but in the end they really are an economy the size of Italy with only a fraction of NATO's conventional combat power and force projection.
Completely disagree kanan saheb on your analysis.It is not the size of the dog but fight in the dog.It is my prediction if NATO attacks Russia with conventional forces on Russian soil they will be defeated and their armies destroyed without using any nuclear weapons. It has happened several times already in the last few centuries and I hope the Europeans and Americans have learned that lesson.Because if they have not they will learn it the hard way again.

It is also my prediction that Russia will come out ahead in the Syrian crisis keep watching grand master Putin,s next move.It is true that Russia does not have a land border with Syria and that limits options for the Russian army unlike in Ukraine but Russia has plenty of naval and air power they can bring to bear if and when necessary as also air borne troops if needed.

If u look at historical battles like Alexander vs durius or Babar vs Lodhi. it is the much smaller army that won.Modern warfare is not the same I understand but basic concept have not changed. More things change more they are the same as they say.

Victory in wars have very little to do with size of the economy and the bigger economy therefore will be the winner, not at all.American economy was much bigger than German economy at the start of the 2nd world war but I am sure that german army would have bitten the crap out of americans in a land war one to one.
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Y. Kanan wrote:I think the explanation is that Russia knows it's playing an incredibly weak hand and cannot force the issue. Unless the Russians are willing to go nuclear, they have miniscule combat power vs. US\Turkey\GCC combo. They have to walk a very fine line by using clever diplomacy and back-door dealings to make up for their military weakness. I'm rooting for Russia, too, but the reality is they're running a huge bluff and they know it. So far Russia has been incredibly successful at punching above their weight, but in the end they really are an economy the size of Italy with only a fraction of NATO's conventional combat power and force projection.
incredibly weak, miniscule, military weakness, huge bluff .. you nees to stop using such incredible superlatives because without Russia there would well have been no Syria today, the country was 2/3rd gawn. From a position of incredible disadvantage, Assad forces are in advantageous position through out Syria and on the offensive instead of on the defensive. Now, within a few weeks they will take over aleppo too .. was all this imaginable in jan, 2015.
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brave israeli army taking cues from massa police...ganging up and thrashing a elderly palestinian grandpa

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after 2 months of helping the kurds take Manbij, the US does a 180' and cuts their throats

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Kurds have refused and turkey is moving more heavy armour in the border regions , feeding in more FSA jihadis to shore up the "green belt"
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agitpapa ‏@agitpapa 10h10 hours ago
Shocker: Biden tells SDF to pull out of Manbij back 2 Kobane 2 days after US bombed Al Bab

^^ this is what happens to non-anglos depending on Massa as a faithful all-lie :rotfl:
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SDF has attacked turkic jihadis south of jarablous and turkey is sending more Leopard2 tanks and artillery in support

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ISIS as usual conducted a planned withdrawal to hand over the area ...
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its a 3 corner race who calls whose bluff now and SAA/Rus/persians will sit this one out and watch the fun.....other than beating back the IS attack on Kuweires airbase they do not remotely have the boots on ground to be playing any games this far east.
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putting up a 100km long green belt jarablous to marea ordinarily would need atleast a couple of well manned corps - 5000 or even 10000 jihadis do not hack it.

not sure how turkey hopes to build and maintain such a long buffer zone....YPG will have a fun time ambushing and creating mayhem all over against static jihadis forced to defend known points and run supply convoys to isolated firebases.

the game has just began...
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So Iraq and Syria borders get no respect from anyone now. Effectively they are not nation-states anymore.
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what is surprising for me is that the Turkish army is still fighting for Erdogan. Have no shame or pride this 'Turkish Army' ?
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all men with spine are in jail . rest are a mix of older Kemalists (who hate Gulenists) and and younger lot are enthusiastic Erdoganists who have earned their spurs razing and ravaging kurd towns on their side of the border like Cizre. there is also significant Grey Wolf inside the army or maybe they tag along as "irregulars" and "tribal levies" to do the dirty work off the books

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