Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby RoyG » 21 Sep 2016 02:14

Why would we send tanks. Must be part of some exercise or the usual troop movement.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby RoyG » 21 Sep 2016 02:15

Brahma Chellaney put forward a good idea. Scrap the indus treaty.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Amber G. » 21 Sep 2016 02:15

^^^ Tweets:
Skardu Air space closed due to security says
-- All flights from Islamabad to Northern Areas has been canceled
-- People I can hear (PAF) Fighter jets practicing ...
-- Musharraf issuing warning to India..

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby RoyG » 21 Sep 2016 02:18

1) Flights are cancelled due to plane repair.

2) PAF exercise. Announced a while ago.

3) Musharraf...well...what's new?

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Shanmukh » 21 Sep 2016 02:18

RoyG wrote:Brahma Chellaney put forward a good idea. Scrap the indus treaty.


We don't have the power to divert waters enough to damage them, saar. Can we build the infrastructure for it first, under the guise of flood prevention? BTW, we need to do the same in NE, WB and Bihar too, for genuine flood prevention.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Amber G. » 21 Sep 2016 02:39

Meanwhile Husain Haqqani (Ex Pakistani Amby) ‏ wonders:
>>>
Still waiting for links from hyper-patriots, 'internationalizing Kashmir' wallahs. ...
Any coverage of #Sharif-#Kerry meeting in US media? Or #Sharif-#May meeting in UK press? Pls share links.
https://twitter.com/husainhaqqani/statu ... 5411111936

And thinks that Three Star Paki general is an idiot...
Is he (in point 6) recommending threatening a nuclear strike on Delhi? :eek: Doesn't seem smart or 'de-escalating' to me.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Rudradev » 21 Sep 2016 02:55

Nawaz Sharif should spare himself the humiliation and fly directly from NY to KSA this time.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby saip » 21 Sep 2016 02:58

Shanmukh wrote:
RoyG wrote:Brahma Chellaney put forward a good idea. Scrap the indus treaty.


We don't have the power to divert waters enough to damage them, saar. Can we build the infrastructure for it first, under the guise of flood prevention? BTW, we need to do the same in NE, WB and Bihar too, for genuine flood prevention.

If we do not have power to divert, at least do we have enough storage that can be released at once and cause one in a century floods in Pakistan?

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Gagan » 21 Sep 2016 03:02

Taliban khan is mobilizing people to camp around Raiwind anyway. High chances that ISI will take out badmash.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Gagan » 21 Sep 2016 03:03

Raheel has his oppertunity at last!

He will either become a field marshal (If india does not attack) or become a bartender in Britain (If india attacks)

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Gagan » 21 Sep 2016 03:04

Nawaz might stop over in UK for a health check up. He can call up Modi at leisure from there.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Gagan » 21 Sep 2016 03:07

Ahem, posting this again. Still relevant.
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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Sid » 21 Sep 2016 03:10

Their military is posturing just like they did after 2008. Its high time we call their bluff and give one tight slap.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby pankajs » 21 Sep 2016 03:19

https://twitter.com/smitaprakash/status ... 0139973632
Smita Prakash ‏@smitaprakash Sep 19

Whatever has to be done will be done, no need for statement-slanging match: MoS Home Kiren Rijiju on #UriStrike


https://twitter.com/smitaprakash/status ... 7313271808
"we respect emotions, sentiments are heightened, we will take action without grand announcements" : @KirenRijiju MoS Home

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby pankajs » 21 Sep 2016 03:24

https://twitter.com/ANI_news/status/777712372228104194
ANI Verified account @ANI_news

3 Pakistani army personnel killed in a gun attack in Peshawar on Sunday, ISIS claims responsibility for the attack.


The fools went to GOI for comments.
https://twitter.com/ANI_news/status/777732084391555073
Whatever is happening in Pak is result of their own wrongdoings: MA Naqvi,MoS Parl Affairs on 3 Pak army men killed

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Gagan » 21 Sep 2016 03:24

If india does not give them a thappad, the fauj can easily claim that they deterred.

Next step is going to be "Noocaalearr Flaashpwoint" statements from Al Bakistan.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Muppalla » 21 Sep 2016 04:44

Gagan wrote:If india does not give them a thappad, the fauj can easily claim that they deterred.

Next step is going to be "Noocaalearr Flaashpwoint" statements from Al Bakistan.


They already did. We are not Bhutan or Myanmar. :)

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby abhijitm » 21 Sep 2016 07:13

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/smitaprakash/status/777788630139973632
Smita Prakash ‏@smitaprakash Sep 19

Whatever has to be done will be done, no need for statement-slanging match: MoS Home Kiren Rijiju on #UriStrike


https://twitter.com/smitaprakash/status ... 7313271808
"we respect emotions, sentiments are heightened, we will take action without grand announcements" : @KirenRijiju MoS Home

Time after time maturity shown by kiren R is commendable. This guy is good!

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby shiv » 21 Sep 2016 07:31

x post from Raffalay thread
MohdKav wrote:Whats the point of all the shiny toys, when 4 idiots in camo can cross over the border and kill at will.
I have had it to the hilt


I think you have got cause and effect the wrong way around. When Indian strength becomes strong enough to withstand any powerful armoured or air attack from Pakistan, the only route left for them is to make small dents by sending in small groups. They send in hundreds and even if 3-4 get through we get a Mumbai, Kalchak or Uri.

In strategic terms Pakistanis gain nothing but they feel that they are controlling India's destiny. And we get pain which is what the Pakis want. Pakis also feel that if we don't retaliate it shows our cowardice. But if we do retaliate and hurt them but they survive after that they say that tthey have "won" because India was not able to eliminate them

All this is designed to cause a lot of anger and frustration among Indians, which is also exactly what the Pakistanis want. But our only options are to either put up with this and grow and/or take the Paki army down fully in a massive war

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Christopher Sidor » 21 Sep 2016 07:50

Sid wrote:Their military is posturing just like they did after 2008. Its high time we call their bluff and give one tight slap.

Bluff has been called and BJP has been found wanting. The party with a majority in Lok Shaba has been found wanting.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Abhibhushan » 21 Sep 2016 08:34

The party with a majority in Lok Shaba has been found wanting.


Really Sidor???

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Christopher Sidor » 21 Sep 2016 08:40

Yes sir. It was a mistake to have elected these ostriches who have their head in the sand.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby RoyG » 21 Sep 2016 08:57

Christopher Sidor wrote:Yes sir. It was a mistake to have elected these ostriches who have their head in the sand.


You need a scotch on the rocks.

It's the beginning of the end of Pakistan.

They can only do pinpricks now.

The whole neighborhood along w/ the entire world is done w/ these people.

Not even China can stop it.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Arun_J » 21 Sep 2016 09:19

GEO Reporting that India is preparing attack under Cold Start. No sources cited.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/115278-India-prepares-attack-under-Cold-Start-Doctrine-Pakistan-too-readies-itself-sources

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby shiv » 21 Sep 2016 09:25

Arun_J wrote:GEO Reporting that India is preparing attack under Cold Start. No sources cited.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/115278-India-prepares-attack-under-Cold-Start-Doctrine-Pakistan-too-readies-itself-sources

:rotfl:

I would dismiss it except for the takleef it might cause in shitistan..

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby SSridhar » 21 Sep 2016 09:33

I was going through my notes and then something caught my eyes, regarding the incendiary attack on the Uri Camp.

The confession report of two Jaish terrorists, Ahmed Khan Durrani (Pakistani national) and Abdul Qadri (an Afghan Pashtun), who were arrested by Kabul police in March, has opened a can of worms, revealing how Pakistan is providing both the Jaish groups with infrastructure to run their training camps. The duo said they were trained at an ISI-operated training camp in Bare, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. These two terrorists sneaked into India in November 2015 under the guise of a medical visa for Durrani as an Afghan patient and Qadri as his attender. Their target was to attack a temple and a big mall in New Delhi with chemical incendiary bombs. But, they panicked and flew back to Kabul after a botched bomb-making attempt and caught in Kabul. They had been sent to India by MAR {Now, there is a faction of JeM called Jaish-ul-Haq (JuH) headed by Maulana Abdul Rahman who is popularly known as MAR. MAR was responsible for planning for the IC-814 hijack to release Masood Azhar} This was also the first case where Haqqani shura was involved in a terror attack on the Indian soil because MAR has the backing of the Haqqanis.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby rohitvats » 21 Sep 2016 09:34

Raja Bose wrote:In the midst of all this I hope GoI does not forget to award the Ashok Chakra to each of the 4 Para Cdos who stormed the building and killed the remaining 3 pigs and also to the young Dogra jawan who killed the 1st pig despite being hit in the head.


RB - IMO, 4 Para Cdo is the name of the SF battalion which took out the terrorists. As usual, reporters in our case wouldn't be able to discern these things.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby sivab » 21 Sep 2016 09:49

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/778430316058845184

Anantha Krishnan M ✈ ‏@writetake 1h1 hour ago
After #UriAttacks | From a friend who has knowledge on military matters. Good to see that this year @adgpi wants an early #Diwali this year

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Murugan » 21 Sep 2016 11:24

Little deviation, but interesting,

Senge Hasnan Sering ‏@SengeHSering 15h15 hours ago
Now: Wajahat Hassan representing #GilgitBaltistan @UNHRC talking about #Pakistani oppression. Proud of him

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby SSridhar » 21 Sep 2016 11:37

Dubious informers playing both sides in Kashmir - Josy Joseph, The Hindu
The precise nature of the information the four terrorists who stormed the Uri army base had, yet again point fingers at the role of dubious sources who flourish in the Kashmir insurgency.

Many in the security establishment have for long seen a pattern: doubtful sources who are mixed up with both the security forces and militants and playing both sides.

One such source, with access to the Uri Brigade headquarters could have been the one to feed the terrorists details
which resulted in the killing of 18 soldiers. “They had far too much of specific information, it is not just a coincidence,” one Army officer said.

He pointed out that the terrorists seemed to know about the arrival of a 35-member advance party of the 6 Bihar Regiment that was to replace 10 Dogra Regiment. The advance party had arrived only a couple of days earlier, to prepare for the arrival of a 1000-strong unit.

During the turnover of units the guard automatically lowers. This is not the first time we have seen an attack during such a period,” he said. He said the attackers also seemed to have known that the advance party was mostly sleeping in tents, at which they fired incendiary ammunition. When the tents caught fire, many soldiers ran out but were shot down — at least 14 died in such a fashion.

The source industry

Kashmir has a flourishing source industry and it is increasingly causing serious problems, admit many in the security establishment.

“We need sources to get information, and thus they are given some amount of access and freedom. However, they also play the other side. Obviously, they benefit from both sides,” one officer said.

In many of the major terrorist operations targeted at security personnel and establishments, such dubious sources have played some role in recent years, many admitted.

The role of dubious sources in November 2015 was suspected when Colonel Santosh Mahadik, commanding officer of 41 Rashtriya Rifles, was grievously injured in an encounter in Kupwara, and died later. When Colonel M.N. Rai was killed in January 2015 in Tral, similar fears were raised.

“We have no proper auditing system for sources. They make some money out of us, and we are probably lazy and the environment too hostile for us to impose strict discipline on the entire business,” a senior official said.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Sumeet » 21 Sep 2016 11:43




Amber this will be shot down. Lets not get ecstatic about this.

Let's see Pakistan's stellar accomplishment from American PoV:

    Funding 9/11
    Providing support to Haqqani group
    Sheltering OBL near Paki capital
    Extorting billions of dollars from US under Nuclear blackmail
    Undoubted Center of world wide radical Islamic extremism
    And lastly being directly or indirectly responsible for killing of numerous American soldiers

If none of this got TSP that tag then pretty much nothing else will, then what to mention about what happens to Indians or Indian Armed Forces.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby anupmisra » 21 Sep 2016 11:45

sivab wrote:Image


IA should post the pictures of those 25 paki regulars.

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby deejay » 21 Sep 2016 13:58

anupmisra wrote:
sivab wrote:Image


IA should post the pictures of those 25 paki regulars.


Sir, not possible. Some of the bodies were recovered under fire. Not exactly a terrorist encounter but involved cross border firing. Some bodies may be with IA. More details are needed for complete picture. Death count numbers are varying with different sources.
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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby SSharma » 21 Sep 2016 14:16

saip wrote:
Shanmukh wrote:
We don't have the power to divert waters enough to damage them, saar. Can we build the infrastructure for it first, under the guise of flood prevention? BTW, we need to do the same in NE, WB and Bihar too, for genuine flood prevention.

If we do not have power to divert, at least do we have enough storage that can be released at once and cause one in a century floods in Pakistan?


we can use the water, but causing floods on purpose will just bring us down to their level.
covert strikes, assassinations is one thing but killing women and kids by a flood is different

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby JTull » 21 Sep 2016 15:05

deejay wrote:
anupmisra wrote:
IA should post the pictures of those 25 paki regulars.


Sir, not possible. Some of the bodies were recovered under fire. Not exactly a terrorist encounter but involved cross border firing. Some bodies may be with IA. More details are needed for complete picture. Death count numbers are varying with different sources.


Let their d!cks be slicked off and displayed instead! (Apologies, for the language.)

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby durvasa » 21 Sep 2016 17:20

Some unverified news - if true could be a completely different game Modi is willing to play ..

20 militants so far killed by 2/2 elite Para Commandos of Indian Army in PoK...strike inside PoK.
Army may not officially declare moving inside POK and call it infiltration bid in Uri. Inside reports say 3 POK militant camps targeted by Indian army where death toll of militants can rise to 200

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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Gagan » 21 Sep 2016 17:29

We r talking about air superiority in that area then.
Helo gunships, UAVs, Special Forces assault.
Probably an AWACS too!
LOC should be pushed westwards to Rawalakot, outskirts of mirpur & muzzafarabad, across the neelum valley
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Re: Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

Postby Gagan » 21 Sep 2016 17:30

Pak fauj in true tradition has run away, abandoning west POK


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