Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby g.sarkar » 04 Oct 2016 22:34

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1161004/j ... _PfZxQrKM9
Congress confirms noiseless surgical strikes
SANJAY K. JHA
New Delhi, Oct. 3: The Congress today confirmed that surgical strikes deep inside Pakistani territory had been silently carried out in the past but refrained from questioning the Modi regime's decision to own up to the latest operation.
Asked if such strikes happened during Manmohan Singh's tenure, Congress spokesperson Anand Sharma told a news conference: "These decisions are taken by the military and at that time the political leadership thought it was not necessary to take ownership of the decisions. But it should not be presumed the army took the beating in the past without any response."
A cautious Sharma, who was a cabinet minister in the UPA government, made his point without getting confrontational. "We are not questioning this government's decision, every political party is different. We hope they have taken political ownership of the military operation after a proper assessment.
"But it will be an insult to the Indian Army if somebody says they suffered so far without reacting. Has the Prime Minister said this is the first time?"
Sharma added: "The army took its own decisions in 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2013. Details of operation are there with the military establishment. It should be clear that any such operation needs endorsement and support of the government.
"The former army chief, Bikram Singh, has gone on record saying surgical strikes happened in the past too. The then government in its wisdom didn't consider it necessary to talk about it."
Senior Congress leaders have privately expressed surprise at the Modi government's decision to announce the strikes. They have refrained from discussing the issue publicly but yesterday former home minister P. Chidambaram finally mentioned earlier strikes.
.......

Too late to bring it up now.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby panduranghari » 04 Oct 2016 22:35

It's KLPD for Bakis. And it must hurt.

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Postby pankajs » 04 Oct 2016 22:38

Seems Khujli has become a *hero* in Bakistan by raising questions about the raid.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1287974/why-is ... s-kejriwal
Why is the Indian govt so scared to respond to Pakistan, asks Kejriwal

Responding to the BJP's complaints, Kejriwal said: “If I asked [the government] to give a befitting response to Pakistan’s false propaganda, why is BJP so scared and rattled?”

“I ask every Indian to watch that video carefully. In my video, putting all our differences aside, I lauded PM Modi, the Indian government and Indian army for conducting 'surgical strikes' on terror launch pads across the LoC”.

<snip>

“All the newspapers and televisions including Washington Post, The New York Times, BBC and CNN are rejecting the Indian claim of surgical strikes and in my video I appealed to PM Modi to give a befitting response to Pakistan’s false propaganda”.

Khujli knew exactly what he was doing under the ruse of asking for a *befitting response to Pakistan’s false propaganda*. This guy is unbelievable.
While Kejriwal had called on Modi to release proof to counter what he said was "Pakistan's propoganda", several Pakistani channels added a spin to the story and reported that the CM challenged the Indian army's version of events.

While Kejriwal did not directly challenge the BJP government, in his video released on Monday he did spend a significant amount of time saying that the international media seemed to favour Pakistan's statements that there was no strike.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby sudhan » 04 Oct 2016 23:07

I agree with RCase.. The nookilar threats have come down.. It was kind of funny to hear those threats from the porkis.. Sort of missing them..

Narrative from the past
Indian panelist: India's patience has limits. You will eventually push us so far, we have to start pushing back..
Pork panelist: I dare you!! We are a nuclear powah!!
..
..
We are a nuclear powah!!
(wheez)
(pant)
We are a nuclear powah!!
Indian Panelist: What are we then? Hydro electric power?? We are a nuclear power too you dumba$$!!
Pork Panelist: Bangalore, in Kerala will go up in flames!!

Me: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby g.sarkar » 04 Oct 2016 23:15

Re Kejriwal: Indian politicians have an old habit of providing succour and comfort to the enemy for little political gains that prove fatal to the nation. The British occupation of India has many examples of such foolishness. Kejriwal may not have such an importance in Indian history, but he is trying.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Rudradev » 04 Oct 2016 23:26

Kejriwal should be told: Why sit in Delhi/Punjab and ask GOI to release videos? The brave men who carried out the ops are right there in J&K, along LoC. Surely they would welcome a visit from a leader of his stature, and be happy to answer all his questions about whether the op really happened. He should go and ask them. And after that, if he is still unconvinced, let him come back to Delhi/Punjab and call them liars.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby venug » 04 Oct 2016 23:45

Just airlift him, put him into a over sized TSP camouflage, give him .303 and para drop him 50 Km into PoK. If he survives, India Wins, we have done another strike, if he gets eliminated, he is not ours :). Win-Win. Oh, hang a Go-Pro around his neck, he can also be useful doing some recce for the next time for real strike.

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Postby Gagan » 04 Oct 2016 23:46

Kejri bai is gonna lose delhi and punjab

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Postby Bheeshma » 04 Oct 2016 23:50

I hope so but then the double digit IQ morons of delhi did vote for aaptard over Kiran bedi so can't be sure. I hope one day the capital is moved to Mumbai and delhi just rendered a tier II city with all the peaceniks and track-thoo diplo-mutts.

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Postby GShankar » 04 Oct 2016 23:52

venug wrote:Just airlift him, put him into a over sized TSP camouflage, give him .303 and para drop him 50 Km into PoK. If he survives, India Wins, we have done another strike, if he gets eliminated, he is not ours :). Win-Win. Oh, hang a Go-Pro around his neck, he can also be useful doing some recce for the next time for real strike.


Not in PoK or any other part of India or countries where we need friendly relationships like Balochistan, Sindh, Tibet, etc. He should be in either of Pakjab or Uighur or similar to cause maximum impact.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby ramana » 04 Oct 2016 23:52

panduranghari wrote:It's KLPD for Bakis. And it must hurt.



looks like same for Congress also,

They now want to claim same success.
This has now become a farce like they claimed success after POK II tests.

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Postby KJo » 04 Oct 2016 23:59

Kejriwal is such an idiot, he makes IITians look really bad. He was elected to be CM of Delhi. Not a political commentator who comments about everything Modi does. He is constantly complaining about everything everyday. How does he get any of his real work done?

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Postby ramana » 04 Oct 2016 23:59

Every terrorist attack we lose members on BRF due to:
- reaction is not good enough
- reaction is late
- claim no reaction

Choose your option and get banned.
Reduces noise.

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Postby ramana » 05 Oct 2016 00:01

KJo wrote:Kejriwal is such an idiot, he makes IITians look really bad. He was elected to be CM of Delhi. Not a political commentator who comments about everything Modi does. He is constantly complaining about everything everyday. How does he get any of his real work done?



it has been clarified he is quota IITian and not by entrance exam.

So no he doesn't make IITians look bad.
Only the moron patron who got him into the institute on his quota.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby James » 05 Oct 2016 00:18

g.sarkar wrote:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1161004/j ... _PfZxQrKM9
Congress confirms noiseless surgical strikes
SANJAY K. JHA
New Delhi, Oct. 3: The Congress today confirmed that surgical strikes deep inside Pakistani territory had been silently carried out in the past but refrained from questioning the Modi regime's decision to own up to the latest operation.
Asked if such strikes happened during Manmohan Singh's tenure, Congress spokesperson Anand Sharma told a news conference: "These decisions are taken by the military and at that time the political leadership thought it was not necessary to take ownership of the decisions. But it should not be presumed the army took the beating in the past without any response."
A cautious Sharma, who was a cabinet minister in the UPA government, made his point without getting confrontational. "We are not questioning this government's decision, every political party is different. We hope they have taken political ownership of the military operation after a proper assessment.
"But it will be an insult to the Indian Army if somebody says they suffered so far without reacting. Has the Prime Minister said this is the first time?"
Sharma added: "The army took its own decisions in 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2013. Details of operation are there with the military establishment. It should be clear that any such operation needs endorsement and support of the government.
"The former army chief, Bikram Singh, has gone on record saying surgical strikes happened in the past too. The then government in its wisdom didn't consider it necessary to talk about it."
Senior Congress leaders have privately expressed surprise at the Modi government's decision to announce the strikes. They have refrained from discussing the issue publicly but yesterday former home minister P. Chidambaram finally mentioned earlier strikes.
.......

Too late to bring it up now.
Gautam


Regarding the highlighted part, one can only hope that it was a poor choice of words on the part of Anand Sharma. Otherwise, if you re-read this, it looks that the govt of the day had no role to play in even authorizing the raids and that it was the army that took a political decision.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby vijayk » 05 Oct 2016 00:21

Next time - Lets have another strike and announce that we had an intelligence that terrorists are waiting to be pushed into India and we eliminated them all.


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Prem » 05 Oct 2016 00:50

Paki poot put in proper pee Place


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby partha » 05 Oct 2016 01:09

It seems like surgical strikes have made a deep impact on Pakis. They might have lost some prized assets. ISPR munnas like this author are frustrated and ranting incoherently.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/154682-Doing-the-same-thing-over-and-over-again
By Mosharraf Zaidi

The total national income (GDP) of India in 2015 was $2,074 billion. During the same period, Pakistan’s GDP was $270 billion. This is not a small difference. But it gets bigger when we consider the trajectory that these two countries are on.

When US National Security Adviser Susan Rice calls evil geniuses like Ajit Doval to pat them on the back for his post-Uri info-ops, she is not signing up to become an RSS sevak. She is doing the math that her country’s taxpayers pay her to do

Pakistan has serious problems with India, and history has established the limited scope available to seek solutions. The most Pakistan can do is to make sure that Kashmir continues to be something we remind the world of regularly. Even this our impotent Foreign Office is incapable of doing, because the Foreign Office and its people have historically been happier being the outward-facing supplicants to power in the twin cities, rather than being serious, thoughtful diplomats.

All the while forgetting that even without a single consulate, Indian ingress in Kabul is deep and thick enough to build and sustain a narrative of Pakistan’s state institutions that mirrors that of the most rabid and cartoonish voices in New Delhi, the New York Times and other places.

The old broken record deserves a hearing for its pure, unadulterated truth: by not cracking down on the operational freedoms enjoyed by the Haqqani Network, we have done more to help India than anything India has done in Afghanistan itself. The Indian aid rupees we are told of are not disproportionately higher than aid provided by Pakistan. Yet the Indian brand is accompanied by posters of Hrithik Roshan and Priyanka Chopra.

He thinks throwing some cash is gonna buy good will of Afghanistan while killing its citizens in terror attacks. Also interesting he chose two Hindu actors to name his point about Indian brand when usually it's SRK who gents mentioned. So India = Hindu, Pakistan = Muslim. Hindu vs Muslim.
Our brand is accompanied by whatever is the most recent attack in Afghanistan

Since the Uri attack, we are learning something about the murderous nature of perceptions. A foolhardy feeding frenzy of hatred in India is exposing the truth about India’s journey toward being a global superpower. Suffice it to say, this is a trip that has barely begun, and already it shows the fragility that comes with having about three Pakistan-fuls of people living below the poverty line. India is no America, or Russia, or China. It is barely India. One could write volumes on India’s economic, social, and political limitations.
:((
Pakhtun identity, and its deep links with Afghanistan, should have always been the lubricant that welded together either side of the Attock River. Instead it has been problematised, inter-generationally, with new and improved variant strains of the problem emerging with alarming frequency. For a country that has mismanaged Fata for as long as we have, the ham-fisted national discourse on absorbing Fata into the country properly is as resplendent a display of low-IQ, iodine-free discourse as one will find. We should tread delicately as we guffaw at the wild prime-time bellicosity on Indian news channels. Their stupidity is directed at us. Ours is directed at us too.

In Washington DC, unlike Islamabad, there is clarity. You cannot have your left hand tinker with the HQN, LeT, JuD, JeM, and have your right hand shake Ash Carter’s or Susan Rice’s or anyone else’s. The November election in American will change almost nothing for Pakistan. India’s bad guys are America’s bad guys, and eventually they will be bad guys for our new almost-BFF Vladimir Putin and old, reliable BFF, the Communist Party of China. Either President Trump or President Clinton will continue lecturing Pakistan. Our toes may curl at the sight of their snivelling arrogance – but it is we who have provided them with the tools to speak at us with such disdain.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby ramana » 05 Oct 2016 02:07

g.sarkar wrote:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1161004/j ... _PfZxQrKM9
Congress confirms noiseless surgical strikes
SANJAY K. JHA
New Delhi, Oct. 3: The Congress today confirmed that surgical strikes deep inside Pakistani territory had been silently carried out in the past but refrained from questioning the Modi regime's decision to own up to the latest operation.
Asked if such strikes happened during Manmohan Singh's tenure, Congress spokesperson Anand Sharma told a news conference: "These decisions are taken by the military and at that time the political leadership thought it was not necessary to take ownership of the decisions. But it should not be presumed the army took the beating in the past without any response."

{Its interesting that they say military took the decision and political leadership decided not the take ownership of those decisions!!!! This comes from official spokesperson of the Congress!!! IOW the military is left to hang out to dry.}

A cautious Sharma, who was a cabinet minister in the UPA government, made his point without getting confrontational. "We are not questioning this government's decision, every political party is different. We hope they have taken political ownership of the military operation after a proper assessment.
"But it will be an insult to the Indian Army if somebody says they suffered so far without reacting. Has the Prime Minister said this is the first time?"
Sharma added: "The army took its own decisions in 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2013. Details of operation are there with the military establishment. It should be clear that any such operation needs endorsement and support of the government.

{Again reinforces the above statement. The political leadership was just there to do nothing. And abdicated constitutional responsibility.}

"The former army chief, Bikram Singh, has gone on record saying surgical strikes happened in the past too. The then government in its wisdom didn't consider it necessary to talk about it."
Senior Congress leaders have privately expressed surprise at the Modi government's decision to announce the strikes. They have refrained from discussing the issue publicly but yesterday former home minister P. Chidambaram finally mentioned earlier strikes.
.......

Too late to bring it up now.
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Postby Bheeshma » 05 Oct 2016 02:20

Any truth in this
https://www.rt.com/news/361558-india-pa ... -campaign/

Indian generals eye six-month campaign in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir – report
Published time: 4 Oct, 2016 12:19

“We have to look at a sustained campaign. The terror network is on the back foot, but to really achieve something, we have to look at a medium-term plan, a six-month campaign. A one-off event will not deter them,” a top Indian Army official was quoted by Times of India as telling the country’s government.

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Postby Dipanker » 05 Oct 2016 02:30

Maintaining plausible deniability could be another factor in Congress decision of not making public the 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013 retaliations or the NDA-1 not making public the 2002 retaliation.

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Postby g.sarkar » 05 Oct 2016 03:33

Dipanker wrote:Maintaining plausible deniability could be another factor in Congress decision of not making public the 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013 retaliations or the NDA-1 not making public the 2002 retaliation.

Or may be it is the lack of cojones? MMS surely was without them. Do we need maintaining plausible deniability with Pakistan and give them a free hand in infiltrating terrorists? Is there any other country that allows this to happen?
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Postby Gus » 05 Oct 2016 03:52

NO political party would do these two things

1. appear weak and impotent in front of their own country men and the enemy and the world

2. not milk a victory to point of diminishing return and even beyond

and you are telling me congress did both.

thats bs and you know it.

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Postby vijayk » 05 Oct 2016 04:21

The fact that wikileaks revealed that CON woman CHORnia and her PAPPU wanted to hand over Siachen to Pak kuttas but were prevented by army says all about CONGi scoundrels

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Rishi » 05 Oct 2016 06:27

ramana wrote:
KJo wrote:Kejriwal is such an idiot, he makes IITians look really bad. He was elected to be CM of Delhi. Not a political commentator who comments about everything Modi does. He is constantly complaining about everything everyday. How does he get any of his real work done?



it has been clarified he is quota IITian and not by entrance exam.

So no he doesn't make IITians look bad.
Only the moron patron who got him into the institute on his quota.


OT, but wasn't this debunked? Quora says he was AIR 563 and no such quota exists at IIT Kgp? (The guy is an idiot though no doubt)
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Postby Lilo » 05 Oct 2016 06:29

The fact remains that in this govt's 1st surgical strike , 150 army personnel went 3 km across LOC & blew up 7 launch pads - killing scores (unofficially upwards to a hundred) of irregulars .
Both quantitatively & qualitatively such a surgical strike is totally different to the maximum of a squad level(group of ~10 army personnel) "local action" done to avenge the beheadings or wanton killing - which congies are now claiming they "allowed" the army to do in the past.

No point in even comparing the past local action with the current surgical strike - and play the congi game of attempting equal equal b/w them.
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Postby Gagan » 05 Oct 2016 06:33

What surgical strike hain ji?
150 soldiers qualifies as an Invasion onlee !

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Postby disha » 05 Oct 2016 06:44

ramana wrote: It has been clarified he is quota IITian and not by entrance exam.


It does not matter., he is from IIT and that is it. If IITians are worried about "brand dilution"., so be it - we need to grow up and accept the fact that just because one can get high scores on a quantitative memory test on a particular day., one does not become an intellectual master over everybody later in life - IITians need to climb down the ladder to reality in this case. Manohar parrikar is also from IIT and he is a fine gentleman and a great defense minister in recent years. And Modi is a chaiwallah and NOT from IIT and he is a PM.

This should also be a lesson that "joh life main gaandu., woh college main or college ke baad bhi gaandu".

Kejru is gaandu in life and for life. It is our bad karma that we have to live with him. And it is also our bad karma, that people attributed super-power intelligence and awesome honesty just because kejru was from IIT. Several of my smart IIT friends included.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Kashi » 05 Oct 2016 06:45

Gagan wrote:What surgical strike hain ji?
150 soldiers qualifies as an Invasion onlee !


Let's call it surgical invasion..

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Postby Gagan » 05 Oct 2016 06:52

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby shiv » 05 Oct 2016 06:55


The man is cruisin' for a bruisin'

This is an anti-army article where he throws out a sufficiently large number of abuses directed at the usual culprits to make it look like its a general rant

Some interesting insights (for me)
by not cracking down on the operational freedoms enjoyed by the Haqqani Network, we have done more to help India than anything India has done in Afghanistan itself.


The South Asian Muslim ethos (rather than the more convenient, but inaccurate moniker of ‘Islam’) was to be the original source code of strength for the country. We’ve seen the different take people in this country have developed on that ethos. Takfiris hunting Barelvis. Barelvis hunting Deobandis. Deobandis hunting Shias. Shias hunting Syrian Sunnis. All of this, at least partly underwritten by either the state itself or states that claim to be our friends. As Iran rises and the Gulf gets petty about ports and shipping, we should buckle in for more, not less, of this orgy of righteousness.


In his book, Khaled Ahmed points out that the Paki army waited until too late before they started taking action against select jihadi groups - so thatthe Pakistan population have more or less been subjugated by the jihadis.

The hidden truth here which no Pakistani writes is that jihadis were seen as gentle ally-bunnies by all Pakis - the elite and the army. But the elite are now denying that as they feel the joyous embrace of sharia

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Prem » 05 Oct 2016 07:09

Kashi wrote:
Gagan wrote:What surgical strike hain ji?
150 soldiers qualifies as an Invasion onlee !Let's call it surgical invasion..

Suargical Cut!!

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby shiv » 05 Oct 2016 07:11

Kashi wrote:
Gagan wrote:What surgical strike hain ji?
150 soldiers qualifies as an Invasion onlee !


Let's call it surgical invasion..

Invasive surgical intervention is a well known expression that existed long before the 2 decade old expression "Minimally invasive surgery"

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby SSridhar » 05 Oct 2016 07:28

India retains right to protect its interests, Doval tells counterpart - Indrani Bagchi, ToI
In the first conversation between National Security Adviser (NSA) Ajit Doval and his Pakistani counterpart Nasir Khan Janjua since the Uri strike, India gave Pakistan details of the surgical strike carried out by the Indian Army last week.

Addressing the refrain that the Pakistani leadership was ready to cooperate with India to investigate the Uri attack, Doval is understood to have stressed that Pakistani inaction after the Pathankot attack had robbed any confidence India may have had.

It was put across to Janjua that India retained the right to protect its interests and this implicitly included actions such as the surgical strike across the LoC.


The lack of confidence in Pakistan's "offers" to investigate the Pathankot attack in January followed the absence of results after India invited a Pakistani team to the air base for investigation.

Pakistan did not facilitate a return visit by Indian investigators to look into the attackers' Pakistan links.

But the message drawn by Sartaj Aziz, Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif 's foreign policy adviser, from the NSAs' conversation was "de-escalation", and this was put out in the media. It was a message reiterated by Pakistan high commissioner Abdul Basit in an interview on Tuesday.

"Both our countries understand war is not really a solution to our problems and there is simply no room for a conflict in a nuclear environment... It is important to avoid raising false expectations, as happened after the cross-LoC firing (how Pakistan refers to the surgical strike) on September 29. We cannot afford to go down that route," said Basit.

"Statements are made, but I think both countries do understand serious implications of escalating the situation either horizontally or vertically," he added.

The talk of de-escalation has failed to move the government, and top sources maintained India would not relax its defence posture on the border, particularly in view of the continued firing by Pakistan and the repeated attacks on Indian security posts.

Meanwhile, Russian envoy Vitaly Churkin, who is president of the UN Security Council for October, said on Monday in the UN that the Security Council did not have any discussion on the India-Pakistan situation. Pakistani envoy Maleeha Lodhi had asked the previous UNSC chair, New Zealand, to call for a discussion on the India-Pakistan situation. But when the New Zealand envoy raised it, there was no response from the members and no discussion.

Churkin's remarks settled for Pakistan the entire campaign of trying to internationalise the current tensions.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby SSridhar » 05 Oct 2016 07:34

India wants firm anti-terror steps, unwilling to give Pak any leeway - ToI
Despite signals from Pakistan exploring the possibility of "de-escalation" of current tensions, the Modi government is likely to insist on clear and verifiable action on terrorism, particularly in the context of the Mumbai, Pathankot and Uri terror attacks.

The government seems to be clear on its stand that the situation post-surgical strike cannot move towards any sort of normalcy without the dialogue focusing on specific anti-terrorism measures that Pakistan needs to take.

The leeway that the government was prepared to offer by way of its previous engagement with the Pakistan government and the civilian leadership of PM Nawaz Sharif seems to be over. The way forward for bilateral ties, as seen by India, are concrete steps to contain terrorism.

The Modi government did look to invest in Sharif 's leadership and the civilian government, but the moves have clearly not paid any dividends.

Already under strain after the Pathankot attack, the ties came apart after Sharif upped the ante over Kashmir, and India returned the compliment by accusing Pakistan of stoking the unrest.

India reads the posturing from Pakistan as typical of its tactics when cornered. Apart from the fact that public opinion will not settle for an indeterminate result, the governments seem keen on quantifiable results in any engagement.

If a dialogue process does not yield gains on the anti-terrorism front, risks involved in a surgical strike that could have resulted in an escalation as well as accidents like Indian soldiers being trapped in enemy-controlled territory would not be worth the while.

Having crossed a line that his predecessors did not, PM Narendra Modi would look for concrete gains rather than accept a return to business as usual, sources said.

The government's focus will be on capitalising on Pakistan's current isolation within Saarc and further afield and the lack of sympathy for its Kashmir campaign.

In internal discussions, the government is also prepared for a possible escalation in tensions, recognising that bilateral ties with Pakistan are going to be rocky.

Despite Pakistan's vehement dismissal of the surgical strike, contesting it even happened, the government is aware that there is considerable unease in the Pakistani political and military establishment. While Pakistan might be keen to buy time, its attempt to keep the Kashmir dispute in focus is not cutting any ice with India.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Suresh S » 05 Oct 2016 07:35

disha wrote:
ramana wrote: It has been clarified he is quota IITian and not by entrance exam.


It does not matter., he is from IIT and that is it. If IITians are worried about "brand dilution"., so be it - we need to grow up and accept the fact that just because one can get high scores on a quantitative memory test on a particular day., one does not become an intellectual master over everybody later in life - IITians need to climb down the ladder to reality in this case. Manohar parrikar is also from IIT and he is a fine gentleman and a great defense minister in recent years. And Modi is a chaiwallah and NOT from IIT and he is a PM.

This should also be a lesson that "joh life main gaandu., woh college main or college ke baad bhi gaandu".

Kejru is gaandu in life and for life. It is our bad karma that we have to live with him. And it is also our bad karma, that people attributed super-power intelligence and awesome honesty just because kejru was from IIT. Several of my smart IIT friends included.



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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby anishns » 05 Oct 2016 07:52

I thought this article should go in the BENIS thread, as it is a work of satire. Although it is actually so true I decided to post here :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

http://www.thelotpot.com/this-is-why-pakistan-can-beat-india-in-any-kind-of-war-if-it-really-happens/

Posting in full:

India has been threatening war against Pakistan but there is no war in which India can ever beat Pakistan. No Pakistani is afraid of war: Everyone is brave enough to put up a status online asking for war. As long as I do not have to fight in it, I support every war.

If it makes me feel better to upload a cover photo with the Pakistani flag, why should I care about helping to create social conditions where thousands of people can die? I do not even care about causing accidents on the road after painting both my car’s windscreens green and white.

A soldier stands next to a Pakistani flag. PHOTO: REUTERS

In many ways, I am also a soldier. I have waged a war against India for a decade in Facebook comments. I am particularly proud of all the times I have referred to ‘India’ as ‘End ya’. In every cricket match after India loses a wicket I tweet the following: “In dia? Nahee, out dia.”

Do you think a country full of people who can come up with such hillarious puns can be defeated by a country where Katrina Kaif can win the Smita Patil Memorial Award?

Pakistan will win any war against India. World War I, World II, The American Civil War; we have never lost any war against India. In fact the worst Pakistani performance in a war was by the actors in Bilal Lashari’s Waar.

Even there we beat India. Anyone who saw the movie Border and thought no one can make a worse propaganda movie underestimated the power of Pakistanis.

There is a reason why we have the best spy agency in the world. Every single boy in Pakistan is trained in spy missions. Trying to pick up a girl from her house in Karachi without her mother noticing is nothing short of a James Bond mission. You have to disguise yourself as the driver, strategically park the car at an angle where her mother cannot spot it from the roof and if anybody approaches at a moment’s notice be ready to scream out, “Khuda ki kasam behan hay meri.”



For years the WWE has tried to warn us of the nefarious designs of India’s spy agency by screaming out to us ‘RAW is WAR’ but we never listened. We were blinded by uncle Aman’s daughter Asha and steamrolled by the Samjhota express.

Too long have we danced to the beat of India on all our mehndis anddholkis; too long have we asked our barbers to give us the Shahrukh Khan haircut; too long have we tried hiding our bellies in Salman Khan endorsed white ugly vests.

It is time we say enough is enough and engage in an all-out war against India. Every Pakistani is equal to 60 Indians and 2+2 = 22.
We will beat India on the cricket ground. We will beat India at the border. We will go to Mars and beat their satellite there. So what if we do not even get water in the most posh area of Karachi? Beliefs are stronger than science and I believe we will win. I am sure Agha Waqar can build us a satellite that runs on water.

Nawaz Sharif will beat Narendra Modi in an eating contest. Shahid Afridi will beat Sachin Tendulkar in a ‘will not retire’ contest. Humayun Saeed will beat Shahrukh Khan in a ‘will still play a 20 year old in movies’ contest.

Atif Aslam will beat Himesh Reshamiya in an auto tuning contest.
Bilal Khan will beat Katrina Kaif in a more fake British accent contest.
Imran Khan will beat Arvind Kejriwaal in a ‘trust me, we can still win’ delusion.

Mubasher Lucman will beat Arnab Goswami in a shouting match.
Every memon will beat Bappi Larri in wearing more gold in public.
Hamza Ali Abbasi will beat Subramanian Swamy in jingoism.
Every wall being used as a public toilet in Pakistan will defeat the Swachh Bharat movement.

We are the more hip choice for people worldwide. Pakistan – the new and improved India. We can build six Taj Mahals – even if that means spending no money on building schools and hospitals. If it means being better than India then I am sure all people dying from lack of adequate healthcare will understand.

India better not challenge us to another war. There is no way they can defeat us. We will have applications pending for visas for other countries. Every Pakistani will be willing to fly a plane over India, all the way to Australia for safe asylum.

India cannot isolate us from the West. We are the West. Every geographer in the world will tell you that Pakistan is closer to the West than India.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Hari Seldon » 05 Oct 2016 07:55

The Indo-Pak == drama had started to look and sound ridiculous even during the MMS era.

Today, after every major western capital has seen jihadist plots against public peace in their homelands, TSP's chances of a favorable hearing anywhere are subzero.

In 2022, we surpass PRC as the world's most populous country. We're already in the top 10 economies by USD and in the top 5 by PPP.

If and when India makes a move on TSP, nobody but nobody will intervene, that much is assured. Loud noises and some hyperventilation may happen here and there but beyond that, I don't see anything else happening.

IMO, it is time for GoI to say subtly at first and then increasingly casually that Pak's chances of surviving as one country appear bleak etc. Derecognizing the Durand line would be a great start too.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby SSridhar » 05 Oct 2016 08:08

Singapore too slams cross-border terror - ToI
Singapore expressed solidarity with India over the Uri attack on Tuesday with its Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong condemning terrorism in all its forms. He said this after a meeting with Indian PM Narendra Modi here [New Delhi].

Addressing a joint press conference, the heads of the two nations urged all those who believed in peace and humanity to come together to defeat the menace of cross-border terrorism, and said that the two countries had decided to boost their anti-terror cooperation.

During his address, Lee condemned terrorism and offered condolences to the families of the 19 soldiers who were killed in the Uri attack.

Modi, in his speech, said the rising tide of terrorism, especially cross-border terrorism, and the rise of radicalisation were grave challenges to people's security. "They threaten the very fabric of our societies,'' Modi said, adding that India and Singapore had agreed to enhance their cooperation to counter these threats, including in the domain of cyber security.

The meeting's focus on terrorism is being seen as another attempt by the government to get Pakistan on the ropes diplomatically after the Uri attack. India's campaign against Pakistan recently saw four countries in the neighbourhood pulling out of the Saarc summit in Islamabad, leading to postponement of the event.

The two countries also sent out a message to China, which had recently rejected an international tribunal ruling dismissing its nine-dash line claim over South China Sea waters.

"As two maritime nations, keeping the sea lanes of communication open, and respect for international legal order of seas and oceans is a shared priority,'' Modi said, adding that defence and security cooperation was a key pillar of India's strategic partnership with Singapore.


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