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Karthik S wrote:PoK is part of India sirjee, let's start to look at it that way.
Karthikji, no sir. My India has borders that touch Iran in the south and Tajikistan in the north, at least. Time is on our side. All we need is imagination, diligence and effort.

P.S. Minor matter of population displacement but that is what Europe is for. :D
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Prem wrote:
Sub tactical or not it is now quite clear that we have a history of trans LoC ops. Perhaps in time we will get to hear detailed accounts by army men involved.

General bakshi makes a good point on how #surgical strikes are of the finest special ops in the world ever.

But I really found his classification of 2000-2003 period interesting. He suggest that in this time our artillery fire assaults became too much for pakis to handle. Even Bofors 155 mm may have been used. Do we have any good accounts from that period?
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Posted in the arty td.The likelihood of another coup is very strong if Nawaz does not kowtow to the Paki army in the choice of the next chief.
Nawaz Baba is totally exposed after the Panama Papers as being utterly corrupt and his removal and incarceration along with his 40+thieves will be widely welcomed.

The Paki armmed forces can very easily lay the blame on Pak's international isolation upon his failed diplomacy,venality and cowardice "in the face of the enemy" India over Kashmir.In moments of crisis with India,the pigsty population always backs their armed forces ,believing the pigsh*t of Paki propaganda that they've won every war with India thus far!

The open threat of uniting with China and Russia (!) in a military axis might inspire jihadis in Pak,but much mirth around the world. Not only does the the Paki army chief seem to be hallucinating ,high on his daily dose of hash,whatever,but he is also illiterate as he cannot read the open statement by the Russian ambassador to India,HE Kadakin,where Russia clearly supported India's surgical strikes admonishing Pak to cooperate with India over terror.Let us pray and hope that thereis another coup in Pak as the generals know b*gger all about economics-except to fill their own pockets and confirm their pariah status to the comity of nations.
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I think apart from the other obvious benefits of this surgical strike, one strategic benefit we get is with the cold start doctrine. Now if ever we practice the doctrine, pakis will never be sure whether India has declared an all out war or it's just another surgical strike until it's late. Possibly it might be too late as they seem to have made up their mind to not to respond at all to the SS from India. Their only response is going to come in form of random attempts to infiltrate and kill as many Indians as they can.

Is anyone thinking about resurrecting the Cold Start? I hope someone is. :twisted:
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If the military takes-over then the US bheekh would stop as per the Kerry-Lugar Bill, why would they want to turn-off one of their only sources of money?

The equation as it stands suits them brilliantly, Rawalpindi runs the country - foreign & domestic and have puppets for show in Islamabad to keep receiving American $$$
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Crossing a red line

On the night of September 28, close to 100 specially trained operators exhaled gently as they lay in wait at multiple locations across the Line of Control. The moon had waned to a thin, near-invisible crescent. Until H-hour, the cutting edge of the Indian army's Parachute regiment Special Forces, Para-SF for short, did not exist. They blended into the rugged Pir Panjal because they had reduced their four S-es-shape, shine, silhouette and smell. Their combat fatigues blended into the forest, their faces were streaked with camouflage paint. Their skin was covered in a thin film of mud to suppress body odour. Their weapons had been blackened. They had lain in ambush for over 48 hours.

There was nothing on their minds except the success of their mission. Not the 19 soldiers who had been killed in Uri on September 18, nor their fate if they were captured alive.

The operators were the decisive tip of a very long spear that began in the army's Directorate General of Military Operations (DGMO) on the first floor of South Block. Here, India's military leadership sat with their political bosses, the prime minister and the defence minister. It passed through the Northern Army Command's bunker in Udhampur that planned the operation, and, finally, led across the border.

For days now, the SF teams had stalked their targets-launchpads used to infiltrate militants into India.

At H-hour, a coded signal went out to the teams. The operators opened up with the portable artillery they had backpacked across the LoC-Carl Gustaf rocket launchers, thermobaric rockets, under barrel grenade launchers clipped on rifles and 'Milkor' multiple grenade launchers that spat out six 40 mm grenades in one pull of the trigger.

Six launchpads at Kel, Lipa, Athmuqam, Tattapani and Bhimber, located within five kilometres of the LoC, were hit near-simultaneously. The explosions were captured on hand-held cameras and by Indian Army drones floating above, relaying the images back to base. At each location, the operation was terminated in minutes.

"It was a destruction mission, they did not engage their targets with small arms fire nor wait to count casualties," one official says. The weapons were chosen to inflict the maximum structural damage. The Russian Shmel, for instance, is called a flame-thrower by its manufacturer as it ignites a fuel-air mix that collapses structures and has the impact of one 155 mm Bofors shell.

The commandos had accomplished a textbook 'raid' after infiltrating enemy-held territory. The US Special Forces Operational Techniques' field manual FM 31-20, one of the few such documents that is publicly accesible, hails overland infiltration "as the most secure way of getting the Special Forces team into place, especially if time is not crucial. Distance is not necessarily a problem for well-equipped Special Forces personnel, trained to use their skills, wits and resources".

This is precisely why Indian SF operators eschew helicopters. They lack mission-specific helicopters like the stealthy Ghost Hawks Navy Seals used in the 2011 raid on Abbottabad that killed Osama bin Laden.

Indian SF operators who do 30-km cross-country speed marches with 40 kg backpacks are comfortable with stealthy landborne insertion. They know the swathe of dense virgin temperate forest on the LoC like the back of their hand. They navigate around the 'nars' or dry river channels leading into the Kishenganga and know which ridges to take to evade detection.

They are at home in the 2 km no man's land belt where vision drops to less than a metre in broad daylight and the crackle of twigs could well be a wild bear, a marauding panther, a militant or a Pakistani SSG operator.

The commandos maintained their composure throughout the mission. At one camp which they staked out, terrorist sentries randomly hosed the trees around with assault weapon fire. Shredded leaves showered the waiting commandos, making them wonder if the mission had been compromised.

Army officials in the know say the number of casualties on the terrorist side are only guesstimates based on how many terrorists and their supporters are within each camp. There were no casualties on the Indian side. One operator sustained foot injuries when he walked across a mine on the way back. He did not cry even once. A commando attributes it to the adrenaline surge during these missions and say the build-up causes post-action nausea and vomiting.

In what is believed to be a first for such missions, the operators took visual evidence of the strike. One team waited until daybreak, past 6 am, to capture a camp being blown up on video. The infrared bloom in one of the launchpads led the brass to wonder whether the operators had hit a weapons dump. The footage was carefully analysed by army and intelligence sources and shown to the leadership before India went public with the strike.

At noon on September 29, while the launchpads were still smouldering, DGMO Lieutenant General Ranbir Singh addressed a press conference in New Delhi announcing that India had carried out 'surgical strikes' 'along' the border after receiving specific and credible input on terrorists planning to infiltrate into India to carry out attacks.

"During these counter-terrorist operations, significant casualties were caused to terrorists and those providing support to them," Lt Gen Singh said, the restrained statement coming 11 days after he had vowed to respond to the Uri attacks at "a time and place of the army's choosing".

The signal to move in had already been given days after the Uri attack as the government seethed in its aftermath and the mounting public pressure for retaliation. An 'Eyes Only' file one officer calls the 'book of targets' kept in a secure location within the DGMO, was opened. The targets were identified in consultation with the Northern Army Command. Updated image feeds of the camps were taken from intelligence agencies.

The first teams of SF operators were infiltrated across the LoC to conduct Close Target Reconnaissance (CTR), a crucial element in the planning process. It identifies targets, verifies they are operational and reverts to the planners who then wargame the operation.

The CTR teams staked out and identified the targets, the infiltration routes and the approximate times for infiltration and exfiltration. They took pains to evade thermal imagers on the Pakistani side. One infiltration route ran through a counter-infiltration minefield laid by the Indian side, littered with buried anti-personnel mines. The team chose to mark a safe route through this lethal obstacle as an alternative route would take time.

The planners kept the operation secret and anonymous. Unlike previous cross-LoC missions, it was not given a name, nor were written orders issued. The infiltration teams were believed to have been sent into the Indian posts on the LoC in disguise before their launch, to keep their arrival secret.

Predictably, Pakistan disputed the Indian army's version. "The notion of a surgical strike linked to alleged terrorists' bases is an illusion being deliberately generated by India to create false effects," the Pakistan army said in a statement.

Indian military commanders have chafed at their inability to strike at militant sanctuaries just across the border. At the height of the Kargil war in 1999, Prime Minister A.B. Vajpayee issued orders to his military commanders that the LoC was sacrosanct. This, when military advice indicated that the war could have been terminated even sooner had India struck Pakistan's supply routes and bases across the LoC. Vajpayee, however, wanted India to retake the Kargil Heights from a moral high ground.

War apart, cross-border operations across the LoC have been commonplace for decades, part of establishing 'moral ascendancy' over the adversary and conducted at the battalion level. The November 2003 ceasefire between India and Pakistan drastically reduced such operations, but they began a decade ago when both armies began targeting each other in a cycle of violence and counter-violence.
Army officials privately admit to at least two cross-border SF raids in 2008 and 2011. But these were authorised by the Northern Command in retaliation to specific action by Pakistan army Border Action Teams (BATs).

Surgical strikes against Pakistan-based terrorists, including specific operations to target their leadership, were discussed by the Manmohan Singh-led cabinet committee on security in the aftermath of the 26/11 attacks on Mumbai. These were abandoned for lack of precise targeting information and, more importantly, what one participant in the meeting calls, a clear lack of political will.
To that extent, the September 29 raid authorised by the topmost political leadership and later broadcast to the world, marks a radical departure in policy. The September 29 operations covered a frontage of over 200 km, both north and south of the Pir Panjal range. In that sense, it was also a step-up from the June 6 raid by Indian SF on NSCN(K)-PLA camp after its guerrillas ambushed and killed 18 Army men in Chandel, Manipur. The raid was carried out with the knowledge of the Myanmar government.

Whether the September 29 strikes mark a permanent change in the government policy of restraint remains to be seen. Army brass believe this operation is a one-off. "There is no change in policy at the formation level," a senior army official says.

The army is quick to underline that this surgical strike calls for a Special Operations Command (SOCOM) to undertake a range of future clandestine and covert operations. This command was first proposed by the army in 2002 but shelved. The proposal was resurrected by the Naresh Chandra committee in 2011. The SOCOM, reporting to the Permanent Chairman, Chiefs of Staff, would have integrated training facilities, a common pool of equipment and dedicated transport aircraft (the army and navy rely on the IAF to fly them for long-range missions). That the proposal has languished before the CCS since 2013 is inexplicable given that the leadership believes in the changed nature of future wars. This, even as the prime minister told the Combined Commanders' Conference last December that "full-scale wars may become rare, but force will remain an instrument of deterrence and influencing behaviour". The next surgery, clearly, has to be on India's moribund defence reforms.
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US says does not support declaring Pakistan a 'terrorist state'
"Road to peace in Kabul lies in Kashmir in the sense that when you talk of peace, you cannot compartmentalise peace, you can't segregate a section... ok you can have peace in Kabul and let Kashmir burn. That is not going to happen," Pakistan Prime Minister's special envoy on Kashmir Senator Mushahid Hussain Syed+ said here.

"So you (US) talk of a comprehensive peace settlement, so let the people of South Asia not be hostage to the hostility of the past. Let them move forward," said Syed, Chairman of the Pakistan Senate's Defence and Defence Production Committee said during an interaction at Washington-based think-tank Stimson Centr
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With the US a diminshing patron of Pak,and Indo-US bonhomie on the upswing,anger that the Haqqani's are untouchable to the Paki mil.,Pak in recebnt times has been depending more upon China for everything.China has been spending billions in Africa courting African govt,railway in Ethiopia-posted a couple of days ago,$%B aid for another Afro nation, and all Pak's new mil eqpt. is Chinese.If the US turns the screw on Pak,it will turn the screw upon them in Afghanistan,close down their drone bases,etc.The US will be up the creek without a paddle in Afghanistan,depending entirely upon the current dispensation.NO land route to support the regime or NATO/US forces. It would be too humiliating for the US too ask Iran for a logistic route!

The Mil establishment in Pak are renowned for acting first and regretting later.The only fly in the ointment in orchestrating a coup is the sudden decline in fortune of the Saudis,the principal Islamic benefactor.All along they could depend upon the Saudis to bail them out,but the Saudis have overplayed their had in the region with a two-front policy that is draining them of resources.Yemen and Syria,at a time of acute revenue loss. Getting moolah from the Soothis to pay off the Chinese-even at best bum-chum rates,is now a major problem. Nawaz Baba and his 40+ thieves cannot cross the red line that tips the scales in the Paki army's favour.
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Philip, If Badmash is compromised with Panama Papers leak, Raheel is compromised with the Surgical strikes. I see both going.

Also did you see how NPA lobby in US has been shut up?

Its like Ekalavya shooting arrows at the barking dog.

NaMo just shut them up with the nucoolar flash point rhetoric.

Uneven Cohen was incoherent!!!
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Probably the next thng is to advance the LOC for every attack say by a few meters how much may depend on the mature of the terrain.
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India provides MFN status and what not to Porikies while expecting Unkil/Europe to declare them TN!! Their whole supply line is dependent on Porkies.

Only way forward is to start engaging their Military directly by ignoring all political protocols. Talk with real stakeholder with a big danda in hand.
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Vishal Jolapara wrote:If the military takes-over then the US bheekh would stop as per the Kerry-Lugar Bill
it depends if the take over is projected to be in US interest. we will soon start hearing things like "Save Pakistan to save the world" or "Pak Army is the only savior of atomi Takkat Pakistan".

Was the Sisi takeover in Misr a coup? or a social-e-media inspired revolution? it all depends on how many pak passands come in the next state dept.
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ramana wrote:Philip, If Badmash is compromised with Panama Papers leak, Raheel is compromised with the Surgical strikes. I see both going.
Don't think the uniformed sharif will go easily. If we see from his perspective, he has got a score to settle.
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https://www.thequint.com/uri-attack/201 ... ed-kashmir
The main thrust of the army’s 20 September stealth operation -- that is said to have significantly worsted terrorist infrastructure in at least seven camps -- was in Leepa Valley in Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir, The Quint has reliably learnt.
The counter-terrorist strikes, sources said, took place over two phases: the first on 20 September and the other on 28 September.

The surgical strikes continued across areas at a depth of 6-13 km in PoK over three days (and not just on 28 September as revealed by Director General of Military Operations Lieutenant General Ranbir Singh). The strikes had an element of surprise, sources said, and were undertaken in zones where the presence of the Pakistani army was found to be “thin”.
Military sources revealed that many of the terrorist camps in the PoK part of the Leepa Valley were targeted because they did not “have the protection” of either the Pakistani army or its BAT (battalion action teams) which were engaged in the Pakistan-Afghanistan frontier to fight the Taliban guerrillas.
Besides the destruction of the terrorist camps and the “launch pads”, which are used as staging grounds for pushing terrorists into Indian territory, the most significant achievement of the surgical strikes was the capture of about 20 terrorists who were brought over across the LoC for “intelligence purposes”, according to an army source.There has, however, been no official confirmation of this “catch”.
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It is amazing that after the first "cattle prod" attack on Sep 20th, they thought everything was fine when India whacked them again on Sep 28th. No contingency planning whatsoever!
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Rakesh wrote:It is amazing that after the first "cattle prod" attack on Sep 20th, they thought everything was fine when India whacked them again on Sep 28th. No contingency planning whatsoever!
The Pakis are stretched thin supporting conflict on three borders, or at least two and a half. This means that the 'practical border' can actually be pushed back and made more rational by the Indian Army in the LoC area. The first attack might have been a feint designed to mislead and make the Pakis concentrate their limited forces in the wrong places, while the hammer fell on LeT and JeM terrorists. Their condition is truly like the thief bit by a scorpion.
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Rakesh wrote:It is amazing that after the first "cattle prod" attack on Sep 20th, they thought everything was fine when India whacked them again on Sep 28th. No contingency planning whatsoever!

After the 9/20 attack, they thought hammer will fall in Pakistan and over exercised the Fizzle Ya and taking off from highways and showing flag marches in the air. In process two planes crashed.


So they were quite busy and expected some other attack.
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deejay wrote:And KJO sir, please cite one example of loose talk in this instance.
The Minister of Information and Broadcasting, Shri Arnab Goswami, has been very bellicose with his rhetoric. Modi should rein him in. 8)
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They were doing showbaazi, and usualy pakjabi bluster in the meantime.
The top Generals had probably taken "Notussss" of the attack and scolded their Field Commanders to "Ensure increased sikurty" around LOC.

The Generals then got busy scheming about how to capture Islamabad, preserve H&D, media management and to try and show how they had deterred kafir India by their mere martial beings.
When the Jhapad Came again, they just ordered the jihadi teams out of POK back into Pakistani mainland.

These guys don't have the skill to fight a multilayered war now.They've delegated fighting to irregulars, jihadis as of the last several decades. They are like businessmen. Just look at them, most of them are overweight, dim looking.
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Mihir wrote:
deejay wrote:And KJO sir, please cite one example of loose talk in this instance.
The Minister of Information and Broadcasting, Shri Arnab Goswami, has been very bellicose with his rhetoric. Modi should rein him in. 8)
:lol:

That said, I don't mind Arnab at all when he does this. At least there is someone openly expressing his delight. No hesitation and no "introspection".
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Does anyone here remember the Pakis bragging/bravado when India hit terrorist camps in Myanmar?
Pah! Myanmar is a 3rd World nation. Just TRY doing that to TFTA Hasina Atimbum Pakistan!


:mrgreen:
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UlanBatori wrote:Does anyone here remember the Pakis bragging/bravado when India hit terrorist camps in Myanmar?
Pah! Myanmar is a 3rd World nation. Just TRY doing that to TFTA Hasina Atimbum Pakistan!


:mrgreen:

Someone did:
Minhaz Merchant ‏@minhazmerchant Sep 29
"Pakistan is not Myanmar," boasted Pak govt after Indian commando raid on Myanmar. Well, it is #SurgicalStrikesAgainstPak

In reply to Minhaz Merchant
BelligerentBharat ‏@rotormagic Sep 29
@minhazmerchant actually India informed Myanmar & did what it did. With Pakistan, we did not bother. They are not Myanmar. Not even half :)
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Gagan wrote:Nachiket
The older Jammu Srinagar highway crosses the Pir Panjal at the 8 Km Jawahar Tunnel
It is a one hour drive from the bottom of the pir panjal with traffic jams to get upto Jawahar tunnel.
The new 11 Km tunnel is much lower than Jawahar, near the base of Jawahar, close to the Railway tunnel.
From there and u can see this on sat images, is the new alignment of this road, much more streamlined, straighter, meets the old road in places, but is greenfield construction mostly.

Then there are twin tunnels, I think 4-6 kms long near Sonmarg. If you've served there you'll know, it snows like hell, landslides too! This will help all traffic to Amarnath, Kargil or Leh. The. The tunnel underneath Zojila, which is sanctioned and will begin construction soon
Thanks Gagan saar. Good to see the new development.
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Hopefully GoI and BRO are doing a good job of building infrastructure in Arunachal and north east too.
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Sri Lanka
Bhutan
Myanmar
Pakistan
Maldives
Afghanistan (?)

All countries united by saarc and our special forces :mrgreen:
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https://www.thequint.com/uri-attack/201 ... ed-kashmir


That was a more detailed account of the likely level of sickening violence perpetrated by big bad Hindu India.

Two things:

They DID give immigration papers to several potential Adnan Samis, only not so friendly of course. Was wondering about that.

Expect video. Not for the benefit of the Pakistani fauj. More for the studious in Lahore madrassas.
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ramana wrote:
Rakesh wrote:It is amazing that after the first "cattle prod" attack on Sep 20th, they thought everything was fine when India whacked them again on Sep 28th. No contingency planning whatsoever!

After the 9/20 attack, they thought hammer will fall in Pakistan and over exercised the Fizzle Ya and taking off from highways and showing flag marches in the air. In process two planes crashed.


So they were quite busy and expected some other attack.
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The Quint appears to have been right the first time about the Sep. 20 feints. The "especially brutal" may refer to the liberal use of flamethrowers for pest-e-sha'eed. No houristan for those, hain?

20 'guests' given free entry into India? Those are probably HVTs meaning PA/ISI handlers. Wonder how they recognized them. Must be by the burkhas.
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Tabiz walas

They had a bunch on Tabizs in their Burkha / Shalwar pockets.
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UlanBatori wrote:The Quint appears to have been right the first time about the Sep. 20 feints. The "especially brutal" may refer to the liberal use of flamethrowers for pest-e-sha'eed. No houristan for those, hain?

20 'guests' given free entry into India? Those are probably HVTs meaning PA/ISI handlers. Wonder how they recognized them. Must be by the burkhas.
I have my doubts about the quint story. The sep 20th "strikes" might have been recon missions.
By 19 September, the Dogra and the Bihar regiments moved swiftly to take control of a vast swathe of territory – about 240 km in length and running parallel to the LoC – and sanitised the zone.
So Pakistan could not detect 2000 people in its terrority and let them stay there for days.
The surgical strikes continued across areas at a depth of 6-13 km in PoK over three days (and not just on 28 September as revealed by Director General of Military Operations Lieutenant General Ranbir Singh).
Again highly unlikely Paki army could not come to the pigs' rescue for 3 days. And who were they fighting with for three days. How do you exfiltrate with 20 terrorists? Carry them, drag them, fly them out, cuff them and make them walk at gun point along with the special forces?

If what Quint says is true, then how did they get their info on the first strikes? And additional information on 3 days of strikes? Is it a leak by the government or by a mole? I think some one leaked the recon missions and Quint tried to spoil the party. The Pakis were too dumb to catch on.
Or the govt deliberately leaked the info and then denied it to lull the pakis or misdirect the pakis into protecting their air space while the attack was on the ground.
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^^^ You want video?
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What this says is that when the IA moved in with regiment strength, behind a saturation artillery barrage, the PA exited stage left like the Pakis that they are. What option did they have?
Point is, Pakis could not admit that IA was hunting pigs across yellow sea because according to PA there have never been any pigs there. I bet they screamed in private to PeeAllSee and Duplicity, and were advised to suck it up: if they tried escalating they would be hiding in air raid shelters under the Islamabad Parking Lots. So PA stayed away until the coast was clear. 3 days is not very long, but maybe no team stayed more than a few hours. There were just many strikes.

How do you drag back 20 pigs? Maybe tied hand and foot and suspended from poles carried by 2 soldiers each. Or maybe 2 pigs carry 1 Aphsar-Pig on a pole, at gunpoint with chains on ankles. Probably in helicopters as first reported, though IA is now denying that any helos crossed the yellow sea - I tend to believe the FIRST REPORTS which come before all the spin is imposed.

As for QUINT's sources, I think the govt leaked the info - and pointed to a completely wrong place, so that the Pakis thought it was a bluff and :rotfl: Pakis DID admit that there was heavy Indian artillery, remember?
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This is all confusing Paki.Twin Beerather Carl and Shmel are likely to make sure Jihadi Keema is well done & boneless . Kaun Zinda,Kaun Marra Owrr kaun Pakra gya is the 11 Lac Yuan Question for Paki. BUt have u heard or seen Maulana Ajgar lately ?
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 744743.cms
A game of shadows! India's plan of action before surgical strikes revealed
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Re: Army strikes terror camps in PoK

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ramana wrote:^^^ You want video?
If a regiment crossed LOC deep into Paki territory, there would be plenty videos by now. Point is it's a highly unlikely scenario reported by no one but Quint.
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BUt have u heard or seen Maulana Ajgar lately ?
Hmm! U think the pig is squealing inside an army lockup? Or fricassed with the flame thrower?

Regiment occupying a swath on the other side of yellow sea may be a bit hard to believe because we are used to MMS-style Restraint. But note that what they said is that the regiment 'sanitized" a wide swath over several miles. That may have been by saturation artillery fire, more than by crossing on foot.

From what we read, crossing the LOC is not than uncommon, for both sides. The pakis come over often to steal cattle, and have done so for decades. So why is it incredible that IA can do the same if IA puts their mind and will to it? PA would have wisely got out of there knowing how very mad the IA was. IMO the PA knowingly abandoned Maulaha Azhar and his JeM/LeT cronies and exited fast.
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We did not even realize the formation of Akhand Bharat.
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Wouldn't we claim if we had him? What good is keeping his capture a secret ? What more H&D loss for the pakis than having such a HVT captured?
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Karthik S wrote:Wouldn't we claim if we had him? What good is keeping his capture a secret ? What more H&D loss for the pakis than having such a HVT captured?
Strange that he has missed public appearance at this juncture . I guess claim will come after we arrest him in Nepal or strayed Dingy on the way to Dubai from Karachi.There is Red Corner alert for him.
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