Levant crisis - III

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 12 Oct 2016 03:59

See! Its OK to kill children in homes, entire villages where they don't have ANY hospital, but HELLO!! A HOSPITAL filled with SAM and TOW-armed ~~rapist-murderers~~Mawderate Freedom Fighters, that's a WAR CRIME. Lisa, you really need to learn Mawrality from the Experts. This is what Gen. Alexander Haig, commander in Vietnam, used to call

"MOHAWG" : Mawral Haigh Gryaund

(between napalm and Agint Orange/ B-52 carpet-bombing raids on villages)

Y. Kanan · Post by **Y. Kanan** » 12 Oct 2016 04:11

Rudradev wrote:Austin, I would think we stand for India, period.

Did Assad (or his father) make any move to help us against Paki-sponsored terrorism in J&K? Forget going to war for us, did he even lift a finger to block the OIC's relentless pro-Paki resolutions on Kashmir? If not, then why do we owe him anything, much less involvement in his civil war?

As far as I know the only WA leader who clearly articulated a pro-India position on J&K was Saddam.

Afghanistan and Bangladesh are our near abroad and absolutely within our immediate national security threat matrix. We have no more at stake with the Russian expedition in Syria than we did with the US expedition in Iraq.

Perhaps but it would be good operational practice for the IAF. Besides, if the Sunni bloc wins in Syria they'll be 10x more empowered to turn their sights back on us. After Syria the usual suspects will be pushing hard back into Afghanistan and soon, Kashmir. A defeat for the Shia bloc (Russia\Syria\Iran) will indeed affect us. Right now the world of Sunni Islam is focused on Syria and we want it to stay there.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 12 Oct 2016 04:19

MOHAIG indeed!

How Yanqui brains develop instant Alzheimers when it comes to their war crimes.The UK have a nice new phrase to whitewash their war crimes."Army abuses",as if their bestial and sadistice troops were high on ecstasy at the regimental ball!

The Saudi massacre of hundreds at a funeral in Yemen is being airbrushed by the western media which have given it such scant coverage such a horrendous anti-human outrage deserves.But the the US and UK are the ones selling billions of arms to the Soothi Barbarians to massacre innocents and also indirectly ensure that some of these arms get to ISIS and the anti-Assad mercenary forces.

I am not for India getting mil involved in the ME.
Our task is at home ,to dismember Pak and crush any mischief by the PRC.Ensuring that the Afghan regime survives,Bangladesh and our sub-continent neighbours remain stable and pro-India and do not promote Islamic terror or anti-Indian policiees.That is a huge task in itselfi

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UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 12 Oct 2016 06:47

Bottom line: One cannot manage an Expeditionary Force of any substance for any significant time, on imported phoren weapon systems. You can't adapt tactics: putting those cute cages on tanks would require 5 years of negotiations involving regiments of Baboon, as an example. You won't have enough spares. You can't maintain a brutal sortie rate like the Russians have been doing. Just compare their sortie rate on their front-line planes in Syria versus, say, what the IAF and IN are able to achieve with Russian planes at home. Hopefully things will be different with Tejas and homegrown missile and radar systems, but not with imported shiny toys. The French, for instance, can't maintain a sortie rate of 1 per month with their Les Avions Rafales avec Le Tub-de-Champagne (aka A/c carrier). Maybe India can send some Navy destroyers and subs with some home-built helicopters. Plus the obligatory Gurkha Regiment.

The good news is that the Russians want India involved in the reconstruction of Syria. That effort should be protected by Indian troops and helicopters and tanks to blast the VBIEDs and TOWs that will be aimed at them.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 12 Oct 2016 06:54

well that will certainly be interesting if India sends help to Assad. I'm sure everything will be just fine.

Y. Kanan · Post by **Y. Kanan** » 12 Oct 2016 08:30

TSJones wrote:well that will certainly be interesting if India sends help to Assad. I'm sure everything will be just fine.

Why do you guys still act so deferential to this obvious troll? Why do you coddle him so? He contributes no insight or anything else even remotely unique to this forum. Are you all so instinctively subservient? Pathetic.

As for you TSJones, you f*cking coward I'm calling you out. What are you really doing here if it isn't trolling? Why is some random (alleged) American even doing here? Enjoying your two seconds of relative internet "fame"? Any American forum w/Trump supporters present would have already called you out, chewed you up, and spit you out for the intellectual and moral coward that you are. You exist here thanks to a unique flaw in the Indian psyche, call it a buried racial memory of colonialism, that is thankfully fast disappearing.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 12 Oct 2016 08:57

Guys relax no need to get personal

Mined UAVs "Caliphate" wounded two French commandos and killed two Kurds , Seems IS dropped bomb from a UAV

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2175055.html

However, as reported by the French newspaper "Le Monde", two soldiers of the 10th parachute commando unit (10 CPA) French Air Force were seriously injured 2 October 2016 and evacuated to a hospital in Paris. The two soldiers were injured in a bomb attack UAV, which manages the militants "IG". At the same time killed two fighters Peshmerga.

According to "Le Monde", commandos managed to intercept a drone to his undermining of the earth. "This method of warfare against the French troops in any case has no precedent" - the newspaper writes.

It is known that the "IG" regularly uses mini-UAV for reconnaissance. This was particularly noticeable in August 2014 in the course of the attack Syrian Tabka base in Raqqa province. Less than a year later, it became known that the Islamists used the data from the UAV to coordinate their attacks.

Bheeshma · Post by **Bheeshma** » 12 Oct 2016 09:55

He is more of comic relief. Let it go. Already american agents are returning in body bags thanks to Russian airstrikes. He is naturally frustrated.
ISIS UAV bombing is a big step. Wonder who is selling them these bombs and UAV's.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 12 Oct 2016 10:04

How Syria Became the New Global War

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Oct 2016 10:39

in the failed bull run by saa repub guard + desert hawks + tribal militias on the ithriyah tabqah road a few months ago, the leader of a tribal militia was lured by a ISIS drone that had seemingly run out of battery and was resting sedately on the ground near the lone highway. however it was very much alive and packed a charge, once he picked it up to study it, the remote operator exploded it and killed him. IS also demoed superior knowledge of psyops and VBIED swarm attacks by using them at multiple points along the loosely strung out armed colums with no real "flank protection" and created a sense of panic that led to the wholesale retreat and rout - they barely escaped by skin of teeth from losing large numbers of men and material by running back as fast as possible. the video of the russian trooper who died in a VBIED clearly shows this tactic...a VBIED charging in from the desert...a syrian on a technical sporting a ZSU-23-2 tries his best to hammer it, a tank crew nearby is too stunned or out of ammo to use the main cannon, the russian takes a LMG behind the cover of a car engine hood and keeps firing until the last second, the syrian abandons ship a few seconds before him and runs back perhaps saving himself.....the russian did not flinch , perhaps he knew in the exposed flat area, running was no use.

these french troops fell victim to the same bait and boom tactic it looks to me. better to just shoot it to bits from a distance or lob a grenade on it.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 12 Oct 2016 10:49

when dolts curse and call names it just means that they have no intellect to use in their messages.

habal · Post by **habal** » 12 Oct 2016 10:50

AoA
da beast has arrived

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 12 Oct 2016 10:52

USS Mason Fired 3 Missiles to Defend From Yemen Cruise Missiles Attack

https://news.usni.org/2016/10/11/uss-ma ... les-attack

During the attack against USS Mason (DDG-87), the ship’s crew fired the missiles to defend the guided-missile destroyer and nearby USS Ponce (AFSB(I)-15) from two suspected cruise missiles fired from the Yemini shore, two defense officials told USNI News.

Mason launched two Standard Missile-2s (SM-2s) and a single Enhanced Sea Sparrow Missile (ESSM) to intercept the two missiles that were launched about 7 P.M. local time. In addition to the missiles, the ship used its Nulka anti-ship missile decoy, the sources confirmed. Mason was operating in international waters north of the strait of Bab el-Mandeb at the time of the attack.

According to a defense official on Monday, Mason “employed onboard defensive measures” against the first suspected cruise missile, “although it is unclear whether this led to the missile striking the water or whether it would have struck the water anyway.” The official did not specify that the defensive measure was a missile fired from the ship.

habal · Post by **habal** » 12 Oct 2016 10:53

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 12 Oct 2016 10:55

Russia will take down any American airplane or missile targeting Syrian army!

habal · Post by **habal** » 12 Oct 2016 10:57

China sending military advisors to Syria to be followed with troops

China will be helping out the Syrian government in the fight against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIL/ISIS) by sending “military advisers,” media reports have claimed.

“More Chinese troops will be arriving in the coming weeks,” a Syrian army official told the Lebanon-based news website Al-Masdar Al-‘Arabi. The report claims that a Chinese naval vessel is on its way to Syria with dozens of “military advisers” on board. They will reportedly be followed by troops. The ship is said to have passed the Suez Canal in Egypt and be making its way through the Mediterranean Sea.

http://www.alamongordo.com/china-milita ... lp-russia/

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Oct 2016 10:58

habal that must be some lair in the barents sea . the cars and apts look cold weather russian to me.

but its clearly getting ready for deployment...will probably bombard latakia and idlib on a daily basis.

hope the ex-granit cells are packed with n*kalibr for a early diwali show

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 12 Oct 2016 11:01

Its not deployed it but will be so in November along with Peter the Great and other ships for long deployment

habal · Post by **habal** » 12 Oct 2016 11:03

It is in tartous now.

habal · Post by **habal** » 12 Oct 2016 11:05

Kindly connect this with taliban attacks in south and north, helmand and kunduz.

https://twitter.com/Pashtunist/

Looks to me the USA/UK are withdrawing their forces out of hard to defend places in Afghanistan. Where are they moving their armies now.

habal · Post by **habal** » 12 Oct 2016 11:08

https://twitter.com/Pashtunist/

US/UK are withdrawing ground forces and airforce from Afghanistan probably for redeploying into Syria.
Look at report below.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10 ... ar-crimes/

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/785178325278916610

Presidential candidate Clinton says removing Assad in Syria is No. 1 priority

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Oct 2016 11:10

habal wrote:It is in tartous now.

source? western media would have created a hue and cry as it sailed past the chalk cliffs of dover and down the bay of biscay to enter the Med.

habal · Post by **habal** » 12 Oct 2016 11:16

Russians are also calling back all students who are studying abroad.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-1 ... ing-abroad

Which is why we read a report in Russian website Znak published Tuesday, according to which Russian state officials and government workers were told to bring back their children studying abroad immediately, even if means cutting their education short and not waiting until the end of the school year, and re-enroll them in Russian schools, with some concern. The article adds that if the parents of these same officials also live abroad "for some reason", and have not lost their Russian citizenship, should also be returned to the motherland. Znak cited five administration officials as the source of the report.

The "recommendation" applies to all: from the administration staff, to regional administratiors, to lawmakers of all levels. Employees of public corporations are also subject to the ordinance. One of the sources said that anyone who fails to act, will find such non-compliance to be a "complicating factor in the furtherance of their public sector career." He added that he was aware of several such cases in recent months.

habal · Post by **habal** » 12 Oct 2016 11:21

Russia to transfer 10 more Pantsir S-1 SAM systems to the #Syria/n Armed Forces ASAP
https://topwar.ru/101915-rossiya-pereda ... ancir.html …

Singha wrote: source? western media would have created a hue and cry as it sailed past the chalk cliffs of dover and down the bay of biscay to enter the Med.

https://www.facebook.com/SyrianPerspective2/

also look at the timelines here.

RT 21 September:

"According to a source cited by Interfax, the Admiral Kuznetsov will join the country’s naval unit in mid-October, with the mission expected to last between four and five months.
"The aircraft carrier may also join the Russian anti-terrorist operation in Syria, the chief of the parliamentary Defense Committee, Vladimir Komoedov, told Interfax.
“It will depart on time if the situation requires it and we’ll need to support our guys in Syria. There are no obstacles here,” Komoedov, who is also a former commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, said.

https://www.rt.com/news/360178-russia-c ... kuznetsov/

Southfront Oct. 10:

"Russian heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser “Admiral Kuznetsov” will depart to the Syrian coast to take part in the ongoing anti-terrorist operation in the period from October 15 to October 20, Interfax news agency reported, citing a source familiar with the situation. A large antisubmarine warfare ship, a big sea tanker and a rescue tug will accompany Admiral Kuznetsov in the campaign, which will last 4-5 months."

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-repor ... -months-2/

habal · Post by **habal** » 12 Oct 2016 11:22

Old NDF man in Damascus [video] --
“I am 65 years old, I fight my to protect Syria[‘s] children, to make them live safely. I will fight till martyred.”
https://www.facebook.com/68344259837359 ... 357202916/

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 12 Oct 2016 11:25

^^ That is due to the terror threat warning given by SD , where they said Terrorist will attack Russians abroad and in their City , The terror threat to Russian Citizen has gone up considerably

At the daily media briefing on Wednesday, former Pentagon Press Secretary and current State Department spokesperson John Kirby said: "The consequences are that the civil war will continue in Syria, that extremists and extremist groups will continue to exploit the vacuums that are there in Syria to expand their operations, which will include, no question, attacks against Russian interests, perhaps even Russian cities, and Russia will continue to send troops home in body bags, and they will continue to lose resources — even, perhaps, more aircraft," he said.

habal · Post by **habal** » 12 Oct 2016 11:26

Russia Insider has posted an ANNA video from Aleppo, with English subtitles, dated 9th October.

These SAA folk really are first class human beings. If the MSM ever did any real reporting, nobody would support the terrorists. So that is the reason CNN/BBC have to constantly twist their facts and spike their stories with untruths, lies. They hate to publicize human face of SAA.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 12 Oct 2016 12:16

The Kuz will give Ru naval carrier forces mush needed practice in a real combat situ.Russia has only 1 CV and plans for more later on,subs taking priority right now.
Meanwhile Britain moans on about human rights,war crimes,etc.,conveniently forgetting its own far bloodier involvement in Iraq,Libya,etc.,and the chicanery of Tony B.LIar,who shamelessly wants to return to politics (has he made enough money ?).

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 56776.html

Fierce air strikes resumes in Aleppo as UK parliament condemns Russia's actions in Syria
Heavy bombing restarts in besieged rebel-held neighbourhoods as Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson tells MPs Russia's actions in Syria amount to 'war crimes'

Bethan McKernan Beirut
Renewed air strikes on rebel-held parts of the Syrian city of Aleppo and the neighbouring countryside have killed at least 14 people, activists on the ground say, while rebel shelling of a government-held neighbourhood in the south hit a school, killing five children.

Opposition-held east Aleppo, which is home to around 250,000 residents trapped in the area by regime siege barricades, has been subjected to unprecedented shelling by the Russian-backed Syrian government since a seven-day internationally brokered ceasefire collapsed in September.

Leaflets were dropped on east Aleppo last week which said the bombing would ease to allow civilians to leave, but several residents reported that the siege barricades remained up.

Talk of a no-fly zone over Aleppo distracts from more realistic plans to save those dying and starving in Syria

Aleppo emergency debate: MPs discuss the ongoing Syrian crisis- as it happened
Russia vetoes UN resolution to end bombing in Aleppo dividing Security Council
Violence in Aleppo is 'evil' and 'demonic', says Archbishop of Canterbury

The relative calm ended on Tuesday with intense strikes which the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights say killed 16 people, including three children, and injured 20. Activists on the ground put the figure as high as 40.

In the most deadly development, ‘bunker buster’ ground-penetrating bombs fell on Bustan al-Qasr neighborhood, killing at least eight people. Rescue workers were still looking for people trapped under rubble as night fell on Tuesday.

Activists sent photos to journalists of two small children wrapped in white sheets, their faces bruised and covered in dust, whom they said died in the incident. Reconnaissance planes were still circling over the city as dawn broke on Wednesday, the Aleppo Media Centre said.

The strikes came at the same time as the UK parliament met for a three-hour emergency debate on what can be done to reinstate a ceasefire in the Syrian conflict. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said that “the wells of outrage are growing exhausted” over Russia’s continued defiance of international law in assisting the Syrian government in strikes, which he said amount to war crimes.

A Downing Street spokesperson later said that the prospect of implementing a no-fly-zone with Russian aircraft operating in the same space would be a “potentially very difficult and challenging situation.”

The renewed campaign to retake Aleppo has been met with fierce international criticism for the indiscriminate use of particularly deadly munitions such as ‘bunker busters’ on built-up areas. More than 300 people have died in the recent shelling, and civilian infrastructure such as hospitals and water treatment centres destroyed.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 12 Oct 2016 12:55

Hypewerventilating by British diplomats at the UN,BoJo calling for protests,etc., is not going to deter the Russians from their course in Syria-to eradicate ISIS and anti-Assad mercenary forces backed by the West and camel drivers.British hypocrisy is splendidly on display even as their own press report about the 360+ war crimes ...oops! "Army abuses",in Iraq involving British troops. And we're not even talking about the Libyan fiasco.
The British have been mischief-making in the Middle East for over a century,destroying nations,creating despotic regimes loyal to them in order to control the oil wealth of the region. A century ago the region was jocularly called "Mespot" by British troops. Mespot it is today as well with the return of the Brits ,Yanquis and NATO forces ,supporting their favourite F-1 camel drivers!

Determined to control the oil wealth and the network of distribution pipelines,existing and planned,Syria stands like a bulwark resisting the machinations of the despotic Arab monarchies and their Western allies. The return of Russia as a major superpower player on the global stage is infuriating "Little Britain",now even "littler" after Brexit and to be even littler once Scotland gains its inevitable independence. Brois Johnson's ranting and raving against Russia,howling like a deranged cur at the full moon,is the last wail of the "Old Etonian" uber class ,diminishing in its own backyard and fading into the dustbin of history. The once inglorious British Empire that the sun never set upon has noiw been replaced by nostalgic sunset nostalgic readings of its idyosyncracies at literary festivals!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... c-hysteria

Russia calls Boris Johnson's Syria war crime claims 'Russophobic hysteria'
British foreign minister’s call for Russia to be investigated over bombardment of Aleppo is denounced by Moscow’s defence ministry

Boris Johnson: I would like to see protests outside Russian embassy
Patrick Wintour Diplomatic editor
Wednesday 12 October 2016
Accusations by British foreign minister Boris Johnson of a Russian attack on an aid convoy in Syria are “Russophobic hysteria”, the Russian defence ministry has said.

“There were no Russian planes in the area of the aid convoy to Aleppo. That is a fact,” ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said in a statement.

Russia should be investigated for Syrian war crimes, says Boris Johnson
Johnson said on Tuesday there was evidence showing Russia was responsible for the attack.

Making his frontbench debut as foreign secretary in a Commons debate, Johnson said Russia should be investigated for war crimes in Aleppo and took the unusual step of calling for demonstrations by anti-war protesters outside the Russian embassy in London.

Johnson said “the mills of justice grind slowly, but they grind small” as he predicted those responsible for war crimes in Syria would eventually face charges before the international criminal court.

Johnson’s remarks underline the degree to which relations between Russia and the west have deteriorated to levels not seen since the end of the cold war.

Johnson appeared to reject calls for a no-fly zone over areas of Syria, saying: “We cannot commit to a no-fly zone unless we are prepared to confront and perhaps shoot down planes or helicopters that violate that zone. We need to think very carefully about the consequences.”

But, he added, he was sympathetic to those who made the call, and wanted to work through the options with Britain’s allies.

The Foreign Office is known to be preparing for a more assertive Syrian policy if Hillary Clinton becomes the US president in January, but senior UN figures have warned that eastern Aleppo is likely to have fallen to forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad by then if the bombardment continues at its present rate.

Johnson called for demonstrations outside the Russian embassy in London and asked why leftwing protest groups seemed to lack the outrage over Russian conduct in Syria. “I would certainly like to see demonstrations outside the Russian embassy. Where is the Stop the War coalition?”

He insisted he was not leading an anti-Russia campaign, pointing out the US had done its utmost to work with the Russian foreign ministry to bring about a ceasefire. The US “had concluded, rightly, that Russia was determined to help President Bashar al-Assad’s onslaught regardless of any agreement”.

He added: “If Russia continues on its current path I believe that this great country is in danger of becoming a pariah nation, and if President [Vladimir] Putin’s strategy is to restore the greatness and the glory of Russia, then I believe he risks his ambition turning to ashes in the face of international contempt for what is happening in Syria.”

A post on the Russian embassy’s Twitter feed said: “Very unusual call from the Foreign Secretary to hold demonstrations in front of the Russian embassy. New form of British diplomacy?”

Very unusual call from the Foreign Secretary to hold demonstrations in front of the Russian embassy. New form of British diplomacy?
11 Oct 2016

The press secretary at the Russian embassy said in a statement later: “The jihadists keep terrorising the civilians and fighting, rejecting ceasefire and humanitarian aid deliveries.

“Britain’s logic implies putting an end to fighting terrorists and their allies. Our logic is different. Fight on to destroy the jihadists, sparing the civilians.”

In a debate that revealed the deep foreign policy fissure in the Labour party, the shadow foreign secretary, Emily Thornberry, called for the UK to back the escorting of jihadi fighters out of eastern Aleppo, as had happened in Homs. She said a ceasefire could be implemented afterwards if the proposal, put forward by the UN special envoy for Syria, was carried out.

A briefing paper issued by the Labour party to MPs referred to the possibility that Russia had committed war crimes but only if the targeting of civilians was deliberate. Thornberry said statesmanship, not brinkmanship was required, and that Russia and the US were one wrong decision away from a world war.

Johnson rejected her support for the jihadi proposal, saying a ceasefire had to precede the removal of fighters with al-Nusra, a group regarded as the Syrian franchise of al-Qaida.

Reuters contributed to this report.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 12 Oct 2016 13:19

‘It’s different’: US justifies Saudi ‘self-defense’ in Yemen, slams Russia’s actions in Syria

https://www.rt.com/usa/362443-saudi-yemen-russia-syria/

The US says Saudi Arabia’s bombing of Yemen was an act of “self-defense” against Iranian missiles on its border. While there are similarities with the Syrian conflict, Washington sees “differences” between the deaths of over 150 civilians, blamed on Riyadh, and the situation in Aleppo.

“It is different,” the State Department’s John Kirby has told AP’s Matt Lee, when asked whether Capitol Hill sees a difference between the recent attack in Yemen and “what you accuse the Russians and the Syrians and the Iranians of doing in Syria, particularly Aleppo?”

The Saudis publicly said that they were going to investigate this as – for the potential of it being, in fact, wrongly implemented and wrongly executed,” Kirby said. That is something, he added, he hasn’t seen the Syrian army or the Russian military do “not once.”

When asked about Russia’s recent demand for an investigation into an attack on a humanitarian convoy in Syria, Kirby said “it’s not exactly been a clarion call.”

Addressing the attack in Sana’a, the UN called the bombing “outrageous” and pointed out constant strikes, specifically at places of mass congregation, which lacked proper recourse.

“Since the beginning of this conflict in Yemen, weddings, marketplaces, hospitals, schools – and now mourners at a funeral – have been hit, resulting in massive civilian casualties and zero accountability for those responsible,” the UN said in a statement Monday.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Oct 2016 13:47

for this , they would have had to cross the khannasser road going to aleppo at a unguarded point between checkposts , crossed the salt lake to the east and made for deir hafr to get transport.

al masdar

DAMASCUS, SYRIA (10:20 A.M.) - As many as 150 rebel fighters reportedly defected to the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS) yesterday after leaving the northern Hama countryside for Al-Raqqa.

According to opposition activists, 3 batches of 50 fighters from Jund Al-Aqsa (Al-Qaeda franchise) made the arduous journey from northern Hama to western countryside of Al-Raqqa in order to pledge allegiance ISIS and their leader Sheikh Ibrahim Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi.

The Islamic State's official media wing has yet to issue a statement regarding this report; however, if this proves true, it is most likely due to the recent tiff between Jund Al-Aqsa and Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham.

On Tuesday, a group of Jund Al-Aqsa and Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham (formerly Al-Nusra Front) fighters carried out a powerful attack against Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham at their headquarters near the large town of Ma'arat Al-Nu'man; this battle is still ongoing

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 12 Oct 2016 13:53

Russia has officially asked India and China for Humanitarian help for Allepo

Russia hopes on China and India joining the humanitarian mission in Aleppo
Подробнее на ТАСС:
http://tass.ru/politika/3694598

Russia's Defense Ministry is counting on China's accession, India, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan in the humanitarian operation in Syrian Aleppo.

This was announced by the deputy head of the Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov during Syanshanskogo Security Forum.

"As I said, humanitarian aid came from Belarus and Armenia. We are also called upon to accede to the assistance the Syrians through their colleagues in the defense department of the country, members of the SCO, the CSTO and the CIS. We hope that our good partners in many countries, including the People's Republic of China, India, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and other countries will respond to the Russian offer and be able to contribute to stabilizing the humanitarian situation in Syria ", - said Antonov.

He thanked for the support of the humanitarian operation, which is expressed by many Russian partners.

"Because of this thousands of Syrians get the necessary assistance: food, medical products, daily necessities," - said the deputy minister.

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 12 Oct 2016 14:23

TSJones wrote:since when is bombing hospitals and relief convoys equivilent to bombing military high brass at funerals?

yes, you have a strange sense of morality. I'd call it WARPED.

Paging Mr Jones, paging Mr Jones. Did you miss my question. Please. pretty please, answer it so we may all understand an Americans love for freedom and equality.

"Does the above bolded suggestion apply in just the middle east or does it have a global application? Please advise."

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Oct 2016 16:20

*cough cough*

Haidar Sumeri ‏@IraqiSecurity 7m7 minutes ago
.@karwanz The minorities living in northern Iraq will rule themselves even if it means going to war with Barzani's KDP mafia. Just watch.

In reply to Karwan Zebari
Haidar Sumeri ‏@IraqiSecurity 9m9 minutes ago
.@karwanz And don't forget that your beloved peshmerga have been accused of basically every crime that the Hashd has been accused of.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 12 Oct 2016 17:37

I think when Putin is in Goa and Xi and Modi will be there too , they will most certainly discuss about medical aid , relief for allepo

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 12 Oct 2016 18:39

Y. Kanan wrote: Why do you guys still act so deferential ..

To watch the fun as someone is OBVIOUSLY effective in pulling YOUR chain.

Ease up. We r not CNN or the COTUS/SDOTUS/ForeignAffairs Ragazine to have a Mutual Admiration Society/ GroupThink.

Bhurishravas · Post by **Bhurishravas** » 12 Oct 2016 19:10

habal wrote:China sending military advisors to Syria to be followed with troops
China will be helping out the Syrian government in the fight against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIL/ISIS) by sending “military advisers,” media reports have claimed.
“More Chinese troops will be arriving in the coming weeks,” a Syrian army official told the Lebanon-based news website Al-Masdar Al-‘Arabi. The report claims that a Chinese naval vessel is on its way to Syria with dozens of “military advisers” on board. They will reportedly be followed by troops. The ship is said to have passed the Suez Canal in Egypt and be making its way through the Mediterranean Sea.
http://www.alamongordo.com/china-milita ... lp-russia/

I have read 5 times before on this thread that chinese military is coming and coming and coming.No chinese troops or military advisers are coming or will come. Period.
China has no interest in this fight just like India.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 12 Oct 2016 19:27

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Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 12 Oct 2016 20:12

Hello... did anyone notice this?

From the article posted by Austin:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... 15681.html

This is a man named Abu Yazen doing SIGINT for the anti-Assad Levant Front, describing how intercepted communications amongst the pro-Assad coalition are multilingual.

Every group participating in the murderous fighting around the city is trying to listen in on the radio communications of their opponents. "But to understand Assad's troops, I would have to be multilingual," Yazen said over Skype during a recent moment of calm, when no bombs from the regime or from Russia were falling on the city.

In the "Afghan sector" near Khan Tuman southwest of the city, Dari is spoken, a dialect of Persian common in Afghanistan, Yazen says. In the "Hezbollah sector" in the south, Arabic with a Lebanese accent can be heard. The Iranian officers, meanwhile, speak Persian. And nobody, the scout continues, understands the Pakistanis when they speak Urdu. He says that the Iraqi militias surrounding Aleppo tend to speak with the strong accent prevalent in southern Iraq, "but we've gotten used to it." The only reason they don't hear much Russian, he says, is because the pilots flying overhead "only use frequencies that are difficult for us to intercept."

Seems to suggest that there are Pakistanis in the field, fighting on the Russian/SAA/Iranian side. They are listed amongst the combatants on that side of the conflict... Afghan Shias speaking Dari, Hezbollah from Lebanon, IRGC, and Russians.

We all knew the Pakis blew off the Saudi request to send troops into the Yemen conflict on the GCC side, but did we know they had gone so far as to actually intervene on the Russian/Iranian side?

Throws a whole new light on the Russian/Pak military exercises that occurred recently, and the Pakistani bravura about a Sino-Russian-Pakistani axis, doesn't it?

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 12 Oct 2016 20:22

habal wrote:Russians are also calling back all students who are studying abroad.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-1 ... ing-abroad

Which is why we read a report in Russian website Znak published Tuesday, according to which Russian state officials and government workers were told to bring back their children studying abroad immediately, even if means cutting their education short and not waiting until the end of the school year, and re-enroll them in Russian schools, with some concern. The article adds that if the parents of these same officials also live abroad "for some reason", and have not lost their Russian citizenship, should also be returned to the motherland. Znak cited five administration officials as the source of the report.

The "recommendation" applies to all: from the administration staff, to regional administratiors, to lawmakers of all levels. Employees of public corporations are also subject to the ordinance. One of the sources said that anyone who fails to act, will find such non-compliance to be a "complicating factor in the furtherance of their public sector career." He added that he was aware of several such cases in recent months.

Son studies in a private school at Oxford. Half of the school will be empty............Good thing is they have paid full year fee already.