Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 13 Oct 2016 06:21

Show courage and open a path against India, let us loose: Jaish-e-Muhammad chief to Pakistan govt

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 13 Oct 2016 06:54

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Gujarat ATS arrests two ISI sleuths Mohammad Alana and Safur Sumra from Kathwada of Kutch region

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 13 Oct 2016 07:07

Bheeshma wrote:To put things in perspective. Since the surgical strikes pakis or their proxies have tried 3-4 attacks in Kashmir and failed. Why are we not continuing with hits across pakjab?

When the water supply stops, there is still enough for one flush of the commode. That is the 3-4 attacks, pigheads who have already crossed over and itching to meet the virgins. I think this winter will be relatively peaceful once the last batch is terminated, while we figure out how to deal with the inbred insurgency.

Karthik S wrote:+1 That's what I've been wondering. had any of those post SS attacks been successful, we'd have had another Uri. Better be like Israel, retaliate whenever we are attacked.

No, that takes away the surprise element. Israel is in a different situation altogether, let's not go there. Literally, we should toss a coin/roll the dice to see whether to react and by how much & when - that keeps the enemy on their tenterhooks.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Oct 2016 10:00

Bhurishravas wrote:If Generals take action against Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar, they will loose H&D and will become wajeeb ul cutlet for lower rank jihaadi afsars.

As a person watching Pakistan for quite some time, I have recorded a series of data points that show the complete radicalization of the Pakistani armed forces, especially the Army. We know that all here but it is worth recalling.

Let's start with the simplest things first, which we all know. The new motto of the Pakistani army given by Gen. Zia-ul-Haq in 1976 as soon as he became the COAS was, Iman-Taqwa-Jihad fi sabilillah (Faith, Fear of Allah, Jihad in the way of Allah) says it all. The Army’s weekly periodical is named Mujahid (Holy Warrior).

By his own admission, the then DG, ISI, Lt. Gen Mahmoud Ahmed admitted to a Rand Corp. analysts as far back as circa 2000, that 15 to 16% of the army officer corps were religious extremists . If 16% of Army officers were extremists sixteen years back, which itself should have been an estimate on the lower side for obvious reasons, one can imagine what the status should be today after Pakistan had gone through such an overt intensification of radicalism in the meanwhile. Then, one can imagine to what extent lower ranks would have been radicalized. I recall an eye-opening letter to the Editor’s column in The News dated October 26, 2009 by a retired Army Colonel which bemoans the rapid spreading of intolerance preaching madrassah in the Potohar region of Northern Punjab (Jhelum, Rawalpindi & Attock) which has been the traditional recruitment grounds for the Pakistani Army. I therefore estimate conservatively between 50-60% of officer ranks and 80-90% of lower ranks to be radical extremists in the Pakistani Army today.

The radicalization is further confirmed by the following two.

Firstly, in February 2011, when the Punjab Governor Salman Taseer was assassinated by his own police bodyguard for his stand on the Blasphemy Law, the COAS Gen. Kiyani refused to condemn it or even issue any condolence to the Taseer family. He confided to Western diplomats that there were too many religious fundamentalists in the Pakistani Army that such an overt sympathy might lead to disunity within the Army ranks.

Secondly, a US Embassy cable from Islamabad in March 2006, leaked by the WikiLeaks in c. 2011, reports a conversation in which Pakistan's then Deputy Chief of Air Staff for Operations, Air Vice Marshal (AVM) Khalid Chaudhry, saying that the airmen, most of whom came from rural villages, were being radicalised by extremist Islamic clerics. The cable quotes AVM Chaudhry as saying, "You can't imagine what a hard time we have trying to get to trim their beards."

That army officers would become wajib-ul-qitl is not an unfounded argument if we recall two specific and defining moments, both involving the famed SSG.

An officer of the elite SSG commandos blew himself up as a suicide bomber in the SSG headquarters mess in Tarbela killing several officers because he felt the SSG commando actions against the Lal Masjid in Islamabad was unIslamic.

Then, the pathetic fate of the Commanding Officer of the SSG itself. In c. 2008, Maj. Gen. Feisal Alavi, the ex CO of the SSG and a brother-in-law of Nobel Laureate V.S.Naipaul, had expressed fears that he might be eliminated by the Pakistani Army for exposing the nexus between certain Army Generals and the Taliban. True to his prediction, he was assassinated on November 19, 2008 and the Pakistani government promptly blamed the Taliban while the police later arrested Major Haroon Rashid for the act. Maj. Haroon Rashid had quit the army in protest against complete turn of the Musharraf government in its support for the Taliban in 2001 after the 9/11 incidents. His younger brother, a Captain in the Army, also quit in 2002 and joined the Taliban in Helmand.

Several Army officers, like the Rashid brothers above, after retiring from service or after expulsion for virulent anti-state activities or after deserting the military services, had openly associated themselves with the jihadi and terrorist organizations later on. The mastermind behind the October 10, 2009 storming of the Army’s GHQ at Rawalpindi was Dr. Usman (aka Muhammad Aqeel) of the Amjad Farooqui group of the TTP, a nursing-assistant-turned-deserter from the Paksitani Army Medical Corps.

These tips of the iceberg show the deep radicalization of the Pakistani armed forces.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 13 Oct 2016 11:16

The Almeida travel "fatwa" by the pigs of the Porkie stablishment appears to have spectacularly backfired both abroad and at home.The intl. community is chastising Pak for the same and even the local media is now questioning the ruling elite why there is no action against the Paki terrorists enjoying the hospitality of the regime and army.

http://defencenews.in/article/Why-cant- ... mabad-8675

A leading Pakistani daily on Wednesday asked the civilian and military establishment why action against JeM chief Masood Azhar and JuD's Hafiz Saeed was "danger" to the country's national security.

The strong editorial in The Nation, considered close to the government and military establishment, came as a prominent journalist, Cyril Almeida, of Dawn was banned+ from leaving Pakistan because of his front-page report on a rift between the military and the civilian government over the military's covert support to militant groups like the Haqqani network, Taliban and the LeT.

The editorial titled 'How to Lose Friends And Alienate People' said the government and the military instead of taking actions against Azhar and Saeed was lecturing the press.

Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) leader and Pathankot terror attack mastermind Azhar and Jamaat-ud-Dawah (JuD) chief Hafiz Saeed, the mastermind of the 2008 Mumbai attacks, roam freely in Pakistan+ and are believed to have the protection of the military.

The daily said in its editorial that it was a "disturbing day when civilian and military top leadership meet to lecture the media on how to do their job."

"Apparently a barrage of online abuse, and three official denials were not enough to assuage tempers riled after Almeida's exclusive story in Dawn, detailing an unusual exchange between the very same civilian and military top brass that yesterday issued forth a statement on the violation of 'universally acknowledged principles of reporting on national security issues', the editorial said.

"The report by Almeida+ has been called 'fabricated', and 'speculative reporting'. But the government and military top brass in yesterday's meeting delivered no explanation for why government MNA's are protesting the visible presence of banned outfits in Pakistan. Or why possible action against Masood Azhar, or Hafiz Saeed is a danger to 'national security'. Or why Pakistan faces increasing isolation? We're all earsm.

"Instead, how dare the government and military top brass lecture the press on how to do their job. How dare they treat a feted reporter like a criminal. And how dare they imply that they have either the right or the ability or the monopoly to declare what Pakistan's 'national interest' is," it said.

"And for Almeida, nothing but solidarity. More power to you, and to your pen. The press stands with you," it added.
In an editorial, Dawn said it continues to stand-by Almeida's story and has rejected allegations of "vested interest and false reporting".

The Karachi Press Club has also demanded that the travel ban on Almeida be lifted.

la.khan · Post by **la.khan** » 13 Oct 2016 11:28

abhishek_sharma wrote:Show courage and open a path against India, let us loose: Jaish-e-Muhammad chief to Pakistan govt

I was hoping we got this Paki pig turd in our surgical strikes across the LoC

Oh well, better luck next time.

maxratul · Post by **maxratul** » 13 Oct 2016 12:26

la.khan wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:Show courage and open a path against India, let us loose: Jaish-e-Muhammad chief to Pakistan govt
I was hoping we got this Paki pig turd in our surgical strikes across the LoC Oh well, better luck next time.

i am hoping some idiot pindi general will show usual tactical brilliance and actually do something stupid based on his words - and we can finish the Pak problem forever before next sankranti. With the US elections happening and sentiments against Islamic hardliners at an all time high around the globe, this is the ideal window of opportunity to settle all scores.

arun · Post by **arun** » 13 Oct 2016 14:13

Peregrine wrote:US backs India's 'right to self-defence', slams Pakistan for linking Afghan peace to Kashmir

WASHINGTON: Supporting India's "right to self-defence" in the aftermath of the Uri attack which it dubbed a "clear case of cross-border terrorism", the US on Wednesday dismissed the recent attempt by Pakistan to link peace in war-torn Afghanistan with resolution of the Kashmir issue.

The White House backed India's right to defend itself as with any other country, in view of the recent surgical strike but advised caution given the heavy militarisation between the two neighbours.

It also said that that the US is making every effort to ensure that India become a member of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) by the end of this year.

Making a rare appearance before a Washington audience, Peter Lavoy, the White House's point person for South Asia, said that India-US ties are the "most dynamic relationship" for the US as he listed the Obama administration's achievements in strengthening the relationship between the two largest democracies of the world.

"It (Uri) was a clear case of cross-border terrorism. We condemned this act of terrorism. It was a horrific attack. Every country has a right to self-defence. But in a heavily militarised relationship that has also experienced three wars, there is indeed a need for caution and restraint," he said responding to a question on the Uri attack.

"We share with India, the concern for preventing any future attack. We empathise with the Indian position that it needs to respond militarily to cross-border threat of terrorism. But we also advise caution," Lavoy said.

India and Pakistan have a "friction-filled relationship" and they have not found a way to overcome that, he said.

Last week, Lavoy met the two special envoys of Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Kashmir.

The two Pakistani envoys in their public meetings had linked peace in Afghanistan to resolving the Kashmir issue.

"We certainly do not believe that the situation in Afghanistan is linked with Kashmir," the top White House official said.
Lavoy said the US is making every effort to ensure that India becomes a member of the Nuclear Suppliers Group by the end of this year.

"In 2016 India ought to join the NSG," he said and referred to the commitment made by the US in this regard.

India becoming a member of NSG, he argued would exhibit New Delhi's new leadership in non-proliferation.

"Every effort is being made to ensure India ought to join NSG this year," Lavoy said to a question.
Cheers

The opening bit of the above article came from Peter Lavoy’s response to a question from The Hindu’s Varghese K George at an event organized by the US based think-tank, CSIS.

Support for India is not as clear-cut as made out in the above article. Old US habit of working on behalf her Major Non NATO Ally, the Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan is still evident albeit in a more diluted form with Peter Lavoy urging India to show restraint, not once but twice. See the 56 Minute mark of the below video:

habal · Post by **habal** » 13 Oct 2016 16:00

la.khan wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:Show courage and open a path against India, let us loose: Jaish-e-Muhammad chief to Pakistan govt
I was hoping we got this Paki pig turd in our surgical strikes across the LoC Oh well, better luck next time.

biggest favor the sharif duo can do to humanity is to indeed let this pig and fellow pig hafeez suar loose. It would give us the biggest opportunity yet to dismantle terror base forever.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 13 Oct 2016 17:13

+ 1008

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 13 Oct 2016 21:02

Cwapistan ranked fourth most unsafe country in the world

The least safe countries in the world are:
1. Nigeria
2. Columbia
3. Yemen
4. Cwapistan

Cheers

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 13 Oct 2016 21:11

Bibi Blasphemy Appeal Delayed After Judge Steps Down
Oct 13 2016 By AFP

No new date set for hearing into appeal against death penalty for Aasia Bibi.The Supreme Court on Thursday delayed an appeal into the country’s most notorious blasphemy case against a Christian mother on death row since 2010, after one of the judges stepped down.
Thousands of security troops had been deployed in the capital as the court readied to hear a final appeal in the case of Aasia Bibi, with observers warning of “tremendous” repercussions for minorities in Muslim-majority Pakistan. But the threat of violence was largely abated when one of the three-judge bench, Justice Iqbal Hameedur Rehman, told the court he had to recuse himself from the case.
“I was a part of the bench that was hearing the case of Salmaan Taseer, and this case is related to that,” he told the court, an AFP reporter said.

Clerics at the influential Lal Masjid in Islamabad warned late Wednesday they would launch a nationwide protest if Bibi were released. “Any one who will defend or will protect the blasphemer of [Islam’s] Prophet will equally be considered as blasphemer,” spokesman Hafiz Ihtesham Ahmed said. He warned against foreign diplomats lobbying for Bibi’s release, saying clerics would mobilize the public if she was freed and “everyone will become Qadri.”
Bibi’s lawyer Saif-ul-Mulook called the Lal Masjid threat “big.”

The "bearded cleric" of the Red Mosque, it appears is more powerful in Pakiland than the Supreme Court Justice !

Blasphemy is a hugely sensitive issue in Pakistan. Anyone even accused of insulting Islam risks a violent and bloody death at the hands of vigilantes. Rights groups complain the controversial legislation is often abused to carry out personal vendettas, mainly against minority Christians.

She would become the first person in Pakistan to be executed for blasphemy. The repercussions for minorities, human rights and the blasphemy laws will be “tremendous” if that happens, says Shahzad Akbar, a human rights lawyer. Observers have warned of possible violence if the conviction is overturned, with some calling the case a battle for Pakistan’s soul as the state walks a line between upholding human rights and appeasing hardliners.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 13 Oct 2016 21:31

Cyril Almeida's name will be removed from ECL after inquiry, Nisar says

An inquiry will be conducted into the placement of Dawn staffer Cyril Almeida's name on the Exit Control List (ECL), Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar announced Thursday, after which "everyone will be allowed to travel freely."

"The inquiry will end in three to four days and then everyone (Ganja included ?) will be allowed to travel freely," he said.

Referring, to the story, the interior minister said, "An attempt has been made to adversely impact a critical national security paradigm, so there should be an inquiry... Indian media used the report, saying that publication of the story verifies the Indian narrative of Pakistani dealings with non-state actors."

So, India is being blamed for Almeida's name on the ECL !!!

In the wake of the travel ban on Almeida, human rights and journalists' organisations including the HRCP, PFUJ and CPNE protested and rallied in his support. Most TV news channels also ran reports and conducted programs criticising the government's decision.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 13 Oct 2016 22:16

Altaf Bhai Exonerated !
Scotland Yard drops money laundering investigation against Altaf Hussain

British investigative agency Scotland Yard on Thursday dropped investigations into the money laundering case against Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) Chief Altaf Hussain in London, reported DawnNews.Cases against senior MQM leader Mohammad Anwar and businessman Sarfaraz Merchant were also dropped by the Metropolitan Police. The cases were wrapped up due to lack of evidence.

The London Metropolitan Police Service on October 13, following a detailed evidential review and upon receipt of legal advice, made the decision to withdraw their application in a civil case under the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 for the forfeiture of over £500,000 in cash."The cash had been seized from a number of venues between 2012 and 2014," read the report.Having examined all of the evidence the Met accepted that there was insufficient evidence to prove that the money seized was the proceeds of crime or was intended for use in unlawful conduct.

During the course of the investigation: Six people were arrested
11 other people were interviewed under caution A total of 28 interviews were conducted at police stations of persons under investigation
Over 100 witness statements were taken Nine premises were searched which were located in the South and North of England

IOWs, scarce UK police resources were expended ( on the instigation of Paki Govt ) on a wild goose catch ; HMG should bill the Pakistan Govt !

The police found £167,525.92 in the MQM’s offices in London and a further £289,785.32 in Mr Hussain’s home. A smaller sum — around £30,000 — was found in Mr Merchant’s home.The MQM supremo was arrested in the case on June 3, 2014 by the London Metropolitan Police. However, Altaf was released four days later.

There are other serious pending charges against the MQM leader which includes murder of a MQM leader ; of course, in Pakistan political circles, he is also considered to be an Indian Agent !!!

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 13 Oct 2016 22:17

Peregrine wrote:Cwapistan ranked fourth most unsafe country in the world
The least safe countries in the world are:
1. Nigeria
2. Columbia
3. Yemen
4. Cwapistan
Cheers

Worst then Afganistan............that is a tight tamacha on Baki H&D.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 14 Oct 2016 03:13

No,
This does not affect the Ech en dee!
Being on a list where they are lower than India lowers echendee.
Besides here they are above India, simple lahori logic onlee

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 Oct 2016 04:53

What can and what will Mast Qalandar sitting behind s400 in Jalandhar will do to Thunder and Its Driver Bundar ?
PeeAAFF is in 50s and 60s.......

partha · Post by **partha** » 14 Oct 2016 12:34

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1198623/sta ... s-edition/

ISLAMABAD: The Emerging Markets newspaper does not belong to International Monetary Fund, said Harald Finger, the IMF’s Mission Chief to Pakistan on Thursday amid new revelations that five state-owned firms partially funded the publication’s latest edition.

Last week, the newspaper conferred Best Finance Minister of South Asia Award to Ishaq Dar and Best country in South Asia in infrastructure development to Planning and Development Minister Ahsan Iqbal. Government functionaries jumped to congratulate them for winning such a ‘prestigious’ award.

“Emerging Markets is an independent publication,” said Harald Finger, the Washington-based chief of the IMF mission for Pakistan, while addressing a press conference from Washington through a video-link. He was responding to a question about whether he congratulated Finance Minister Dar on winning IMF/WB Best South Asia Minister award.

arun · Post by **arun** » 14 Oct 2016 13:38

X Posted from the “Army strikes terror camps in PoK”.

arun wrote:Islamic Republic of Pakistan based Newspaper, “The News”, citing “Highly placed diplomatic sources” claims that following protests by the Islamic Republic, Russia had “disapproved the observations of Ambassador Alexander Kadakin” who is Russia’s Ambassador to India and indicated that Kadakin would be “reprimanded” for comments supporting India.

While this is most likely the usual fabrication by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, I do hope that our Foreign Policy establishment is keeping an eye on things to ensure that this is not a case of Russia playing fast and loose given that holding of a Military exercise with the Islamic Republic was not a very friendly thing to do in the aftermath of Uri notwithstanding holding an exercise with us at the same time.

Meanwhile wait and watch:

Highly placed diplomatic sources told The News here Sunday that Pakistan agitated with Kremlin about the remarks of its ambassador in the Indian capital. Russia while responding to Pakistan has made it absolutely clear that the statement of its ambassador in New Delhi doesn’t commensurate with the Russian position on the subject and it disapproved the observations of Ambassador Alexander Kadakin.

It is understood that the ambassador who is serving in New Delhi since 2009 would be reprimanded on this count. Alexander Kadakin welcomed Indian so-called raids on terrorist launch-pads across the LoC. Kadakin said the military exercise with Pakistan was in fact intended to encourage that country not to target its neighbour.
From “The News”:

Russia frustrates Indian efforts to isolate Pakistan

The brazen lying of the Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan increases by going from citing unnamed sources citing unnamed sources in the case involving Russia and her Ambassador to India, Alexander Kadakin, to unnamed sources citing named sources in different layers in the present case of Germany and her Ambassador to India, Dr. martin Ney..

“An informed official source” presumably from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan claims that a diplomat from the Islamic Republic by name of Ms Rukhsana Afzal was informed by a German Diplomat Ms Simone Stemmler that the German Ambassador to India Martin Ney had been informed by our Foreign Secretary S. Jaishankar that no “surgical strike” had taken place.

Let us see if Rukhsana Afzal is going to confirm this story and risks the ire of the German Foreign Ministry for fabrication and if the German Foreign Ministry unexpectedly confirms the veracity of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s claims by acting against Ms Simone Stemmler for leaking confidential information.

Indian FS admits surgical strike was a bluff

By Ansar Abbasi October 14, 2016 ………………………………

An informed official source said that the Pakistani authorities had been officially conveyed by its mission in Berlin that during an official meeting with the German foreign office, Pakistan was told about India’s fake “surgical strikes”.

The source said that the Pakistani mission had been told that during a formal meeting on the issue of the ongoing India-Pakistan stand-off between German Ambassador to India Dr Martin Ney and Indian FS Subramaniam Jaishankar in New Delhi, “the Indian Foreign Secretary has categorically denied and said that there was no ‘surgical strike’ undertaken by Indian Army inside Azad Kashmir, Pakistan”.

According to the source, on October 4, 2016, Minister Political Ms Rukhsana Afzal from the Embassy of Pakistan, Berlin, was scheduled to visit the German Foreign Office to raise the issue of Indian atrocities in the IHK. During thisDuring this planned meeting, Ms Rukhsana was to meet with officials from HR and Gender Policy and AfPak Division. Taking advantage of the opportunity, Ms Rukhsana also raised a few important aspects with regard to the Uri's false-flag and the fabricated surgical strike.

Ms Rukhsana was meeting the Senior Desk Officer of AfPak Division, Ms Simone Stemmler and during the meeting Ms Karen Goebels and Mr Jens Wagner from the German Foreign Ministry were also present.

Clicky

Meanwhile our Ministry of External affairs has denied the story calling it “completely concocted and baseless”:

Twitter

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 14 Oct 2016 17:02

X Posted on the PESWThread

1. Remittances fall 9.3% in September

KARACHI: Overseas Pakistani workers remitted $1,609 million during September 2016, down 9.3% compared to $1,776 million in the same month of last year, according to data released by the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) on Thursday.

2.Foreign exchange reserves not at ‘comfortable levels’

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s foreign currency reserves have not yet reached a “comfortable level” and the rupee is significantly overvalued compared to the US dollar, and requires depreciation to remain competitive in international markets, said the International Monetary Fund (IMF) Thursday.

The remarks come amid a plethora of boasts given by the Pakistani government over the comfortable position the country finds itself in when it comes to managing the import bill and foreign exchange reserves.

The IMF report also showed that Pakistan’s inflation-adjustedexchange rate, known as Real Effective Exchange Rate (REER), should be Rs118.3 to a dollar.“We have estimated that the REER is somehow overvalued between 5% to 20%, depending upon which model you apply, although these models are not very accurate but give an indication where things stand,” said Finger.

Cheers

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 Oct 2016 17:23

Re:IMF distances itself from Ishaq Dar's 'Finance Minister of the Year' award

In the above context, it is important to remember, that (1)this London educated Chartered Accountant and FM ( Ishaq Dar ) is closely related to Ganja Sharif by marriage ( as are most other ministers either being close friends or relatives ) (2) this "gentleman" ( Dar )has been exposed by Kaptaan Imran Khan and many others of being the "mastermind" (money launderer !) behind the Sharif family loot accumulation (3) that the "Year Award" is in line with the culture of sycophancy prevalent in Paki politics .

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 14 Oct 2016 18:06

Committee set up to interrogate journalist - DT

“An attempt has been made to adversely affect a big national security paradigm, so there should be an inquiry.”

“The news is inaccurate. So who leaked this inaccurate news? It was published on the behest of someone, and that will be uncovered.”

If the news was inaccurate, how can it be termed a 'leakage' ?

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 14 Oct 2016 18:15

partha wrote:http://tribune.com.pk/story/1198623/sta ... s-edition/
He was responding to a question about whether he congratulated Finance Minister Dar on winning IMF/WB Best South Asia Minister award.

In other words.."Hell, No!!"

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 14 Oct 2016 18:21

Punjabi a “foul language.....”

Haram link: http://www.dawn.com/news/1289869/privat ... riles-many

The notification declares Punjabi a “foul language for the children as well as parents”.

“Foul language is NOT ALLOWED within and outside the school premises, in the morning, during the school hours, and after home time”

“Foul language includes taunts, abuses, Punjabi and the hate speech.”

notification had been circulated in all branches of the school in Punjab

Punjabi scholar and columnist Mushtaq Soofi ....found it “disgracing to millions of Punjabis who are living in Pakistan and Indian Punjab

“The Punjabi language has an age-old history starting off from Baba Farid (Pakpattan) to Khwaja Farid (Kot Mithan). The notification is a disgrace and ignorance of a ‘certain class’ towards Punjabi heritage”

“This means that our children should not speak to their grandparents only because their language is Punjabi,”

Pakjabis should switch to arabic, the language of their "four fathers".

Vivasvat · Post by **Vivasvat** » 14 Oct 2016 19:09

Quite a lot worth quoting in this opinion piece.

The Pakistani epicentre of terror

The footprints of many terrorist attacks in the West have been traced to Pakistan. US should use its leverage to ensure that the Pakistani military is brought to heel

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 14 Oct 2016 22:04

shiv wrote:Our (Indian) views about Cyril Almeida are a liittle bit like sickular libtard views of Rohit Vemula. A victim is created by semi-fiction so we can all feel sorry for the victim and curse the persecutor - in this case the Pakstani army.

But let me state some views here and make a prediction. the Paki army is way more sophisticated in psy-ops that we give them credit. Compared with them we are blundering nincompoop-retards. When the Paki army wants to warn a journalist they do what they did to Salim Shezad or Najam Sethi. Please use Google if you don't know.

Putting Cyril Almeida on the exit control list looks very reasonable to Americans. "Now here is a reasonable, law abiding country. They have things like "exit control lists". There will be due process of law after which we can expect justice to prevail." After some time the Paki army will look very good by taking him off the list. Almeida himself belongs to the elite. I bet what remains of my left testimonial that he has close relatives in the Paki army.

No point getting fooled by Pakistan

There you go folks. EXACTLY as I had predicted
Pakistan withdraws travel ban on journalist Cyril Almeida after criticism

Also on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/bennedose/status/786967510339821568

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 14 Oct 2016 22:44

^^^ This was a brilliant catch Shiv Ji though it should be an obvious catch for a Paki watcher. There is a need to be cynical on any news coming out of that sick country.

LokeshC · Post by **LokeshC** » 14 Oct 2016 22:46

Yeah. I thought Cyril was done for. Its all a dog and pony show.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 15 Oct 2016 00:09

SSridhar another data point, when Indian troops deployed to UN with Pak troops, many incidents of being called kaffirs and outright hostility from Pak troops till India (as usual) drew a line and had the PA officers rein their rabid morons in.

Also incident wherein PN ship almost collided with IN ship while chasing it dangerously and idiotically while crew was all outside yelling AoA like morons.

Brian Cloughley, the PA aologist even admits that PA soldiers think as Allah will lead them to vvictory, what use tactics.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 15 Oct 2016 00:16

http://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/chaudhry-nisar-ali-khan-hints-pakistan-may-consider-selling-nuclear-knowledge/417286/#.WAD9uZXACNs.twitter

Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan hints ‘Pakistan may consider selling nuclear knowledge’

Pakistan Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan on Thursday hinted that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s cabinet might even consider selling of ‘nuclear knowledge’ to overcome financial crisis being faced by the country. Some recent reports in the Pakistani media also said the government has, after motorway and airports, decided to mortgage PTV and Radio Pakistan buildings in order to secure loans.

For this financial wizardry, Finance Minister Dar has proclaimed himself as the "best FM of all South Asia" !

Addressing a press conference on Thursday, the Pakistani Interior Minister said, “Someday I call one of you my friend and suppose tell you that a meeting has been conducted and it has been decided that Pakistan is under huge economic crunch and will so sell its nuclear knowledge; so, now you tell me, you are a journalist, but you are a Pakistani too, wouldn’t you be able to understand that what could be the implications for Pakistan if I publish this news?”

Nothing new here; Xerox Khan, on the behest of the then military rulers has already transferred the know-how of nuclear bomb to rogue states like North Korea, Iran, and Libya !

During the conference, Khan also said, “An attempt has been made to adversely impact a critical national security paradigm, so there should be an inquiry… Indian media used the report, saying that publication of the story verifies the Indian narrative of Pakistani dealings with non-state actors.”

India blamed again for this leak !!!

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 15 Oct 2016 00:24

Spanish diplomat found dead in mysterious circumstances
Zubair Qureshi

Islamabad—A Spanish diplomat was found dead at his residence in the federal capital’s Sector F-7/2 here on Thursday. He was 60. A 38-bore pistol was found beside his body. According to police Mr Juan Jose Giner the Consular Attache at Spanish Embassy committed suicide.
The Spanish diplomat had been living in Islamabad for 30 years. He was divorced twice. One of his wives was Spanish, the other Italian. Mr Giner currently had a cook who left for his home in Saidpur village every evening. On Thursday morning the cook found Mr Jenner lying in a pool of blood in his room and informed the police.
The cook said Mr Giner had asthma and often suffered asthma attacks.
After collecting evidences from the crime scene the law-enforcement personnel shifted the body to Polyclinic and informed the embassy of Spain.

In Pakiland, the hidden hand of the "Deep State" cannot be ruled out !

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 15 Oct 2016 02:09

Hi ho ha ha. Someday soon Pakis will be selling the US information to avert 'lone wolf' attacks in the American homeland.

Shaktimaan · Post by **Shaktimaan** » 15 Oct 2016 07:11

http://m.timesofindia.com/world/pakista ... 860475.cms

In a clear indication that the rumblings over a media report of sharp differences between the Nawaz Sharif government and the military are yet to die down, Pakistan Army chief General Raheel Sharif chaired a corps commanders meeting at the general headquarters at Rawalpindi on Friday, expressing "serious concern over the feeding of false and fabricated story of an important security meeting held at PM house".

Uh-oh folks. The Mighty Mucchad General Sharif chaired a crore kamandu conference just 3 weeks before his scheduled retirement date. I hope that they were just talking about golf and not about koops...

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 15 Oct 2016 07:31

Jernail Sharif got hard slapped by IA which surgically removed his half moustache and then soft slap by Ganja thus ending his Coo Coo for coup. I have the feeling that new coming Jernail will also be surgically slapped by IA to keep control of the escalation ladder .

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 15 Oct 2016 07:48

deejay wrote:^^^ This was a brilliant catch Shiv Ji though it should be an obvious catch for a Paki watcher. There is a need to be cynical on any news coming out of that sick country.

Thanks.

It is important to remember that
1. Pakistani rulers (army/RAPE) make a very clear distinction between Urdu (domestic) and English (foreign/USA)
2. Different information is fed to people speaking these languages and they are dealt with differently
3. Although we can follow Urdu most of us do not read Urdu and miss out on printed information. Indians are exposed mainly to the English fraction of Pakistan and hence English speaking Indians get the same information as Americans. This makes it easy for Indians to be fooled like the Americans. But since Indians by and large worship America we do not want to believe that America has been suckered. We make excuses like "America is a superpower and can do anything including control/destroy Pakistan by snapping its fingers"
4. Pakistanis have taken great pains to copy America in many ways and any phraseology that sounds western is totally fake and meant to impress western money donors. Examples are:

"Senators" for fat oily hennaed feudal bearded men in Islamabad like the bugger who was line maraaoing Qandeel baloch
"Exit control list" - a totally fake and useless category when a man can simply be killed like Daniel Pearl to control his exit. Amazing that indians actually believe that such things work in Pakistan
"Freeze bank account" - another complete fake which makes Americasn very happy. Jamaat-ud-Dawa accounts are frozen, but JuD probably has only Rs 2 in its account. everything is done in cash of hawala

partha · Post by **partha** » 15 Oct 2016 08:25

^
Pakis even have a "Constitution Avenue" in Isloo just like in DC. A casual observer should think how much these Pakis value their constitution.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 15 Oct 2016 09:13

LokeshC wrote:Yeah. I thought Cyril was done for. Its all a dog and pony show.

The panic in the west was because of cyril's religion. Hence the heavy handed warning from the US govt and the equally quick reaction from the battered pakis.

Even our own cross country press made it a dog and pony show.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 15 Oct 2016 09:31

The drama itself was created by ISI/Paki army knowing that Almeida has a following. He was totally free to Tweet his feelings and advertise for support which he promptly got from all the parties that the Paki army would have expected to give him support. Then they reversed the travel ban

What did Pak army lose? Nothing
What did they gain? They gained the reputation of being liberal rational actors. Next time a journalist is killed in Pakistan they will deny it and quote this Almeida incident to show their fairness. The next time any journalist is harmed in any country Pakistan will recall Almeida to say how civilized they are.

This one incident will be used to cover up Daniel Pearly, Salim Shezad and Sethi by saying that all that was in the past. Now the extremists have been weeded out and we are an enlightened democracy

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 15 Oct 2016 10:05

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1198265/wil ... fferences/
Will China be able to sort out Pakistan and Afghanistan’s differences?

Last week at the Brussels Conference, Afghanistan won financial pledges worth $15.2 billion until 2020, including half a million dollars from Pakistan. Though quite encouraging, the pledges at the Conference fall short of $4 billion annual target set in 2012 at the Tokyo conference.The unexpectedly high pledges in times of global turmoil and donor fatigue won’t be easy to materialise without solid clampdown against corruption and human trafficking. Afghans form the largest group of asylum seekers entering the EU territories in tens of thousands, majority of whom failed to get the refugee status. EU conditioned its $1.5 billion aid to Afghanistan’s progress in anti-corruption and return of failed asylum seekers.Afghan security forces remain demoralised with insider attacks and desertions. From Northern provinces, such as Kunduz, the central region of Uruzgan, to eastern and southern areas, Afghanistan is faced with resurgent Taliban. And amid erosion of the writ of the state, gains from Kabul’s recent peace deal with Hizb-i-Islami appear miniscule.Over the last two years, Ghani-Abdullah government has opted to strengthen its relations with India, costing relations with Pakistan. The ties between the latter remain at the lowest ebb after Afghanistan followed India’s decision to boycott SAARC summit in Islamabad. Nonetheless, Pakistan sees Afghanistan as its conjoined twin. The landlocked Central Asian nation has relied on its eastern and southeastern neighbour for trade and travel for centuries.In fact, it will be more pragmatic for Afghanistan to use Pakistan’s land route to connect with a much better and influential partner, China. Though Afghanistan and China do share a border in the Wakhan Corridor, the narrow, treacherous region has only one communication channel called the Wakhjir Pass in the Hindu Kush or Pamirs. Linking Wakhan in Afghanistan with Tashkurgan Tajik region in Xinjiang, China, the 5,000 metre high pass is neither an official border nor has road connections on either side. Moreover, harsh weather conditions dominate for five months.Instead of pursuing antagonistic policy against Pakistan to appease India, Afghanistan can utilise Pakistani infrastructure under CPEC to access Chinese markets and resources.Meanwhile, it can maintain India-Iran corridor for trade through Chabahar port. To Afghanistan’s advantage, China has also stepped up efforts to integrate her in Central Asia and Eurasia. This August, Beijing organised joint counter-terror exercises with Pakistan, Afghan and Tajik militaries. Later, the four respective army chief attended the concluding ceremony. The forum can help Pakistan and Afghanistan overcome disputes with China’s meditation. Posturing against Pakistan and bidding for India is, nonetheless, suicidal for Afghanistan’s short-term as well as long-term interests. It’s time for Kabul to respond affirmatively to Islamabad’s embrace in Brussels.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 15 Oct 2016 10:49

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sCQ9y4k64c

Gen. G.D. Bakshi giving us some clues about the surgical strike @18:00. Also some insights about the nuclear bluster of Pak Fauj.