Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Bart S » 15 Oct 2016 19:15

shiv wrote:
deejay wrote:^^^ This was a brilliant catch Shiv Ji though it should be an obvious catch for a Paki watcher. There is a need to be cynical on any news coming out of that sick country.

:) Thanks.

It is important to remember that
1. Pakistani rulers (army/RAPE) make a very clear distinction between Urdu (domestic) and English (foreign/USA)
2. Different information is fed to people speaking these languages and they are dealt with differently
3. Although we can follow Urdu most of us do not read Urdu and miss out on printed information. Indians are exposed mainly to the English fraction of Pakistan and hence English speaking Indians get the same information as Americans. This makes it easy for Indians to be fooled like the Americans. But since Indians by and large worship America we do not want to believe that America has been suckered. We make excuses like "America is a superpower and can do anything including control/destroy Pakistan by snapping its fingers"
4. Pakistanis have taken great pains to copy America in many ways and any phraseology that sounds western is totally fake and meant to impress western money donors. Examples are:
    "Senators" for fat oily hennaed feudal bearded men in Islamabad like the bugger who was line maraaoing Qandeel baloch
    "Exit control list" - a totally fake and useless category when a man can simply be killed like Daniel Pearl to control his exit. Amazing that indians actually believe that such things work in Pakistan
    "Freeze bank account" - another complete fake which makes Americasn very happy. Jamaat-ud-Dawa accounts are frozen, but JuD probably has only Rs 2 in its account. everything is done in cash of hawala



Absolutely brilliant insight. Needs to be on the sticky on the first page.

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Postby Peregrine » 15 Oct 2016 19:18

Hostilities against Pakistan: India blocks UN funds for glacial flood project
ISLAMABAD: India’s continuing opposition against Pakistan at various international forums has claimed another victim after it torpedoed a $35 million Pakistani proposal to protect communities in the northern areas of the country which are vulnerable to floods from overflowing glacial lakes, officials said on Friday.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby habal » 15 Oct 2016 19:29

Indian muslims message to pakistanis.
NSFW: Kindly do not open video on speakers, only headphones and private setting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHz728aWr2U

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Gus » 15 Oct 2016 19:37

dumbass pakis - never heard of "good fences make good neighbors" ?

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 224413.ece
"Pakistan has said that the Indian move to completely seal the 3,323-km-long border between the two countries by December 2018 will be “contrary” to the Indian position of establishing a peaceful neighbourhood."

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby shiv » 15 Oct 2016 20:04

Gus wrote:dumbass pakis - never heard of "good fences make good neighbors" ?

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 224413.ece
"Pakistan has said that the Indian move to completely seal the 3,323-km-long border between the two countries by December 2018 will be “contrary” to the Indian position of establishing a peaceful neighbourhood."

What is fascinating about Pakistan is that they have built up an ecosystem of spokespersons and media who make wise sounding but otherwise idiotic comments that get published and noticed in the news. In the world of journalism and media Pakistanis have placed themselves "equal" to other media. Paki journalists get invites to briefings etc like anyone else. It is another matter that western media don't give a shit for reports in Pakistani media - but Indian media accept Pakistanis as equals and report Pakistani comments and news as things to be taken seriously - as if they are pithy commentaries on the complexities of international relations instead of recognizing Pakistani media as a bunch of idiots parroting some asshole Paki delusions. But then Indian media are also mediocre - so we have a problem.

What makes it much worse is that Indian parents of "studious" children tell their kids "read the paper" and Indian media actually encourage students to read their papers in schools and colleges. When we realize that Indian media are promoting shit from Pakistan as if it is serious stuff we are still faced with the issue that thousands of indians believe this shit. In thatt sense Pakistanis have placed themselves in a pretty position from where it is hard to topple them unless we encourage the questioning of every news item that emerges from Pakistan

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Postby Gus » 15 Oct 2016 21:48

but Indian media accept Pakistanis as equals and report Pakistani comments and news as things to be taken seriously -


-- not only paki media, but "international media" as well.

that nonsense about paki army getting cnn, bbc etc to LoC and they reporting they saw nothing -> it was reported as "bbc, cnn report that they saw nothing to confirm indian action".

this received SO much mileage in indian media. tv moderators would always quote this, something along the lines of ..

sane person: kejriwal is wrong in raising doubts about indian army ops as reported by indian army
idiot moderator: but is he really wrong, even international media like cnn, bbc etc have reported they saw nothing. he is only asking for clarity :roll:

grrr...nobody starts with the real question - how the f do the reporters on a guided tour, know they were looking at the right place. technically they are right in saying that they did not see anything, but that means nothing in the context.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby CRamS » 15 Oct 2016 23:05

I see a desperate attempt by Indian elites, DDM, TSP media, and of course white media who get their cues from RAPE in both countries to establish a mischievous form of equal equal or somehow paint India as the aggressor. Note the latest about how India is going after soft target like Paki artists. Of course, our own RAPE don't have the brains to point out that pigLeT attacks against India are a manifestation of TSP nationalism and thats precisely the reason why TSP RAPE artists milking India do not condemn those attacks: they agree with them. At best they will say "both sides" or crap like that. Also the hot heads on our side don't have the glib suave Oxford English accent to make their point nor do they have as friends, the colonial racist nationalist slime balls from NYT Economist etc whose reporting is a combination of what their "un-named" state dept spokesman tell them and what our RAPE tell them during party circuits in Delhi and Mumbai. And just as "India & TSP have fought 3 wars" or "India alleges, TSP denies" is the customary line in every report, now it is "Modi went to Lahore, then Patakot happened and then Uri happened" and tensions rise. As if Uri and Pataknot were just some minor incidents carried out by extraterrestrial aliens from Mars and Jupiter. So bottom line: Unless ModiJi keeps up the pressure, there is every danger that any gains from the surgical strike will slowly peter away and its back to square one.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby yensoy » 16 Oct 2016 00:04

Falijee wrote:So, India is being blamed for Almeida's name on the ECL !!!


Paki will blame India even if his wife got pregnant in Pakiland while he was away in Saudi since past 2 years.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby yensoy » 16 Oct 2016 00:46

partha wrote:^
Pakis even have a "Constitution Avenue" in Isloo just like in DC. A casual observer should think how much these Pakis value their constitution.


Surprised they have only one, I thought they had many constitutions so they should have 1956 constitution avenue, 1965 constitution avenue, 1970 constitution avenue, 1973 constitution avenue and constipation avenue.

Also, they should intersect since they do not point in the same direction.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby yensoy » 16 Oct 2016 00:48

shiv wrote:The drama itself was created by ISI/Paki army knowing that Almeida has a following. He was totally free to Tweet his feelings and advertise for support which he promptly got from all the parties that the Paki army would have expected to give him support. Then they reversed the travel ban


That's all fine, but is the story he reported true or false?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby sudarshan » 16 Oct 2016 00:55

yensoy wrote:
partha wrote:^
Pakis even have a "Constitution Avenue" in Isloo just like in DC. A casual observer should think how much these Pakis value their constitution.


Surprised they have only one, I thought they had many constitutions so they should have 1956 constitution avenue, 1965 constitution avenue, 1970 constitution avenue, 1973 constitution avenue and constipation avenue.

Also, they should intersect since they do not point in the same direction.


How can you all forget this one?

From 2002 to 2010 Pakistan had daylight savings time. Google it if you don't believe me.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Peregrine » 16 Oct 2016 04:07

yensoy wrote:
Surprised they have only one, I thought they had many constitutions so they should have 1956 constitution avenue, 1965 constitution avenue, 1970 constitution avenue, 1973 constitution avenue and constipation avenue.

Also, they should intersect since they do not point in the same direction.


sudarshan wrote:How can you all forget this one?

From 2002 to 2010 Pakistan had daylight savings time. Google it if you don't believe me.

sudarshan Ji :

They stopped having summertime at the end of the Summer Time in 2010 as the Mango Abduls complained about loss of sleep during the Summertime Period due to the days lasting for one hour more and thus the Night came an hour later.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby RCase » 16 Oct 2016 04:58

yensoy wrote:
Falijee wrote:So, India is being blamed for Almeida's name on the ECL !!!


Paki will blame India even if his wife got pregnant in Pakiland while he was away in Saudi since past 2 years.


Absolutely! She must have had RAW sex for the outcome. :D

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Cosmo_R » 16 Oct 2016 05:08

CA is very close to the 'deep state' he pretends to abhor. He does not like India/Indians/Hindus. He considers himself way above the Christian rabble (masihs) in pakistan. He has forged for himself a European/Portuguese identity that he thinks is a talisman against the Hamid Mir kind of deep state backlash.

Deep down, no different than the Ayaz Amir. Irfan Husains or for that matter the Nadeem Parachas. It is a big tamasha orchestrated by the ISI whom we give less credit than due for PR smarts.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Cosmo_R » 16 Oct 2016 05:13

^^^"From 2002 to 2010 Pakistan had daylight savings time. Google it if you don't believe me."

Then they decided to embrace the darkness full time 24x7x365. One Ring to rule them and in the darkness bind them. :)

We are truly dealing with the spawn of Sauron, our paths hindered by the lackeys of Saruman. :)

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Postby Falijee » 16 Oct 2016 05:43

Pakistan's Civilian Governments Have A History Of Not Uttering Anything Against The Shenanigans Of It's Generals - Exiled Paki Columnist , Mohamed Taqi
Does the World Have a Credible Civilian Partner in Pakistan?
Even in the ninth year of uninterrupted democracy in Pakistan, the thrice-elected prime minister is not able to utter a word against the shenanigans of his generals.
He is a PM without moral spine; more concerned about preserving his "Chair " and his family wealth !
The recent terrorist attack on the Indian military base in Uri has renewed concern over whether Pakistan’s political leadership has the will or capacity to rein in the country’s military brass or, at least, convince it to stop using jihadist terror for prosecuting foreign policy. Unlike the jihadist attack on the Pathankot airbase earlier this year, Pakistan’s civilian leadership did not even condemn the Uri assault in which 20 Indian servicemen laid down their lives. As an old Persian adage goes, that they didn’t send a message is a message in itself. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi read it correctly: his civilian counterparts in Pakistan appear too meek to be meaningful partners in peace. Almost parallel with Modi’s peace overtures to Pakistan were the earnest efforts by Afghan President Ashraf Ghani to reach out to not just Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif but also to the Pakistani army chief, General Raheel Sharif. The Afghan leader’s endeavour also came to a complete nought, costing him a tonne of political capital.
That it took Modi and Ghani over two years to realise how helpless and hopeless their civilian interlocutors across the border are is not exactly a curiosity but a function of the necessary diplomatic song and dance that every responsible leader has to go through.
The PPP’s history of silenceConsider the case of Pakistan’s first democratically elected prime minister, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto. Bhutto along with the military intelligence services was the co-author of Operation Gibraltar, which led to the all-out war with India in 1965. Pakistan’s foreign minister at the time, Bhutto was deeply involved in planning Operation Gibraltar, in which teams of irregular jihadists trained by the Pakistan army’s special services group infiltrated into Indian-administered Kashmir to foment an uprising. Military historian Shuja Nawaz notes in Crossed Swords that while several of those infiltrating teams were named after past Muslim Arab generals, “one force named Nusrat (incidentally the name of Mrs Bhutto, but also meaning victory) was designated to conduct sabotage behind Indian forces at the ceasefire line”. Bhutto was the public face of Field Marshal Ayub Khan’s regime throughout the 1965 conflict, only to ditch it later and walk away without sharing any blame.

And in the opinion of many, responsible for the break-up of Pakiland !
Bhutto’s daughter, the late and much lamented Benazir Bhutto, was elected to the high office when the Soviet Union was still in Afghanistan and the Pakistan army, with help from the Saudis and Americans, was running the Mujahideen
However, when the Pakistan army launched the Mujahideen offensive against the Jalalabad garrison, the civilian government looked the other way. A PPP minister at the time later said: “The Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief General Hamid Gul gave the parliamentarians an in-camera briefing on the Jalalabad attack in February 1989; we opted not to stand in their way.”
The civilian government once again did not put as much as a roadblock in the army’s effort to virtually colonise Afghanistan. In fact, the PPP’s interior minister at the time, Naseerullah Babar, used to brag about creating the Afghan Taliban. Babar, a retired major general, also had the dubious credit of harbouring Afghan jihadists in Pakistan in the mid-1970s, long before there was any Soviet intervention in Afghanistan.
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Confirmation that Pakistan was playing its "dirty game" long before the formal invasion of Afghanistan
The appeasement did not earn the PPP government any longevity in the office and it was toppled yet again in 1996 in a military-orchestrated move. Nawaz Sharif replaced Benazir after each ouster. At the time he owed his political existence to the military establishment and rabble-rouser clerics, and was more than willing to play along as the army continued to unleash jihadists across borders on both sides. It was during Sharif’s second regime that the military squeezed the government to recognise Mullah Omar’s Taliban regime and it readily obliged. According to Sartaj Aziz, “the instructions to recognize the Taliban government were received by the foreign office from DG ISI, General [Naseem] Rana, and Foreign Minister Gohar Ayub Khan promptly announced the decision at a press conference the next day – Sunday, 25 May 1997”.

Another example of military interference in civilian affairs!
The Kargil fiasco, however, remains the lowest point of Sharif’s that particular stint, with his government either not knowing or not wanting to know of the reckless war unleashed by the Pakistan army. Aziz, by then foreign minister himself, was to later write after a top-level civil-military meeting on May 17,1999: “[Minister for Kashmir Affairs] General (retired) Majid Malik asked me, ‘Do you think the prime minister knew about this operation already?’ I said, I am not sure but I think he was not aware of the entire plan … Then after a pause I added: ‘But one thing is certain: As Pakistan’s foreign minister, I was not aware of this operation till this morning, nor was I consulted about the possible diplomatic fallout of this dangerous operation’.” After the debacle at Tiger Hill, Sharif made a mad dash to Washington, D.C. to help pull the Pakistan army’s chestnuts out of the fire only to be toppled by the same army within four months.

Civilian Govt "tasked" to salvage the Enchendee of the Paki Fauj!
Similar lifelines to the army were thrown by the PPP government when it returned to power once democracy was restored in Pakistan after General Pervez Musharraf’s nine-year dictatorship. The raid by the US special forces which nailed Osama bin Laden right next to the Pakistan Military Academy at Kakul caught the army with its pants down. The PPP government could not muster the political determination to bridle the army even then. The Musharraf-era policies of keeping the pretence of being a US ally in the war against terrorism while providing sanctuary to the Afghan Taliban and its most virulent cohort, the Haqqani network, continued unabated. The Pakistan army continued to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds, and the PPP was willing to plod along. In one instance, brothers of the Haqqani network founder Jalaluddin, Ibrahim and Khalil, were conducting jirgas (tribal meetings) within a stone’s throw of Islamabad, to arbitrate a dispute between the jihadists and the Shia tribesmen of the Kurram agency, with the PPP’s federal interior minister Rehman Malik in attendance. The PPP government did not let out as much as a whimper against the army giving continued sanctuary to the jihadists that attacked both India and Afghanistan. Whether it was the 2008 carnage in Mumbai or the deadly attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul, the killers were unleashed from Pakistan as the civilian leadership stood by idly.
Dus-Percenti also did not have the moral courage to stand up to the khakis
The PPP government was replaced by Sharif in the country’s first ever democratic transition in 2013, but nothing has changed in the Pakistan army’s use of jihadism as the primary tool of prosecuting regional policy. The incumbent army General Raheel, who is scheduled to retire next month, has not only been calling the shots but has also been seen doing so. He has been receiving visiting foreign ministers and heads of states at his military headquarters, while the prime minister watches helplessly. On General Raheel’s watch, the army has rather successfully undertaken Operation Zarb-e-Azb against the so-called bad Taliban, the disgruntled jihadists who attack Pakistan, while letting the good jihadists – the ones who attack Afghanistan and India – go completely unscathed. Not one Afghanistan or India-oriented jihadist has been killed or captured during the two years of Zarb-e-Azb. In fact, the Afghan Taliban were able to congregate in the Balochistan province and select their emir Mullah Mansour after Mullah Omar’s death was confirmed. And when Mullah Mansour was killed in a drone strike inside Pakistan, the Taliban gathered merely a 40-minute drive from the army’s prestigious Command and Staff College, Quetta and appointed the current ringleader Mullah Haibatullah Akhunzada.

Not to mention edicts announced in the name of the long dead Mullah Omar by the Deep State !
Sharif initially made all the right noises over peace with India and Afghanistan but has subsequently abdicated the foreign and national security policies to the army in the inglorious tradition of all past civilian governments, including his own. He has not even appeared inclined to put a damper on the Pakistan army’s lethal proxy war against Afghanistan and attempts to foment a jihadist uprising in Indian-administered Kashmir. The recent incident where a prominent Pakistani journalist, Cyril Almeida, was barred by the civilian government from leaving the country after he reported in the daily Dawn that the civilian and military leaders are at odds over the “international demands for action against Masood Azhar and the Jaish-e-Mohammad; Hafiz Saeed and the Lashkar-e-Taiba; and the Haqqani network”, indicates that Sharif has no stomach for a showdown with the military. While the report itself has several loopholes, such as why the ISI director would need to tour his regional headquarters around the country to inform his subordinates of a policy change, the response to it was quintessentially martial. The verbose Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) director, Lieutenant General Asim Bajwa remained completely mum over the ostensibly leaked story. Social media accounts usually seen toeing the army’s party line raised a ruckus against Almeida and his newspaper, which quickly snowballed into an electronic media furor with fingers being pointed at the Sharif government for attempting to malign the army. Almeida stood by his story and his newspaper stood by him, stating that they had dotted the i’s and crossed the t’s. Whatever the veracity of the story, what became eminently clear from the fallout is that the army is neither ready to correct its course nor willing to let civilians even question its conduct. While the newspaper stood its ground the, [b]the government – clearly under pressure from the military – caved and opted to throw the newsman under the bus.
The Uri attack came in the ninth year of uninterrupted democracy in Pakistan and yet the thrice-elected prime minister was not able to utter a word about the shenanigans of his generals. This begs the question of whether the world has a credible civilian partner in Pakistan?
The Pakistan army has been running a jihadist terror shop under its nuclear umbrella for way too long and successfully getting away with it. How much of a military wiggle room India has created for itself remains to be seen, but risking a nuclear Armageddon in a region home to about a quarter of the mankind cannot and should never be the primary option, the Pakistani defence minister’s reckless and irresponsible threats to use nukes notwithstanding. More important is the diplomatic containment effort, starting with the complete regional boycott of the SAARC conference. From Washington, D.C. and the European capitals to the Muslim Arab countries, there has not been a single voice condoning Pakistan’s position. The Soviet Union was a nuclear superpower and yet a versatile regimen of curbs, confrontation, disengagement and diplomacy eventually cowed it down. The key, however, was the consistency in the world’s approach. Flash-in-the-pan tactics never yield results in recalcitrant conflicts. Pakistan’s leaders may opt to live with the disastrous consequences of their decisions and indecisions but the region simply can’t afford to. The response to the Uri attack seems to have broken the perennial paralysis by analysis, whether it can be sustained and expanded remains to be seen.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Gagan » 16 Oct 2016 05:57

Gen GD Bakshi is 100% correct. (BTW, I just love this impromptu free speaking Bakshi-ji, not the restricted man we see on the talk shows)
This raid has fully confirmed it.

The Pak Fauj as an organization will not retaliate militarily. The whiskey swilling Generals have outsourced fighting to Guerrilla groups, where casualties don't really matter to them - the Jihadi bosses can deal with it.

The crollary that follows is that there will not be any massive nuclear retaliation either. There will be no city targeting by the fauj.
The maximum they can be expected to do will be use a fizzle on an M-11 or a F-16 dropped bum in the Thar against an advancing Indian Battle Group.

(Now that I have written this, and they will scramble to read this on BRF, there will be some huffing and puffing, but they really don't have any other options)

The Afghans are on their case like there is no tomorrow!
Every Afghan I meet, has so much love for the Punjabi Fauj from Pakistan - I almost pity these pakjabis.

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Postby shiv » 16 Oct 2016 06:35

A great article about th self loathing Indian that belongs in this thread as well as others
http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... s-3085054/

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Postby sudarshan » 16 Oct 2016 07:19

Peregrine wrote:
sudarshan wrote:How can you all forget this one?

From 2002 to 2010 Pakistan had daylight savings time. Google it if you don't believe me.

sudarshan Ji :

They stopped having summertime at the end of the Summer Time in 2010 as the Mango Abduls complained about loss of sleep during the Summertime Period due to the days lasting for one hour more and thus the Night came an hour later.
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Waah waah, what a moderate, reasonable, democratic countree onlee, changing national policy to accommodate mango Abduls :mrgreen:.

But seriously, the reason given for introducing DST in the first place was that it would help with electricity shortages and the need for load-shedding.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby SSridhar » 16 Oct 2016 08:00

India to nail Pakistan's lie on LeT funding at international meet - Neeraj Chauhan, ToI
When delegates from 190 countries, the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), United Nations and multilateral agencies sit together from Sunday in Paris for a weeklong discussion on financing of terrorism, the Indian representatives will turn the spotlight on the free run given to banned outfits like Lashkar-e-Taiba and its UN co-listed entities Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) and Falah-i-Insaniyat Foundation (FIF) for raising funds for terrorism in the name of charity in Pakistan.

India will also highlight the recent collection of funds in the name of Hizbul commander Burhan Wani.

According to the latest Asia Pacific Group report on action taken by Pakistan against terror financing in line with FATF recommendations, exclusively accessed by TOI, Islamabad claimed to have taken several measures under international pressure against these UN listed groups. The action included taking over the management of these UNSCR 1267 designated organisations — LeT and its charitable arms — FIF and JuD, and appointing an administrator from Punjab (Pakistan) government to oversee their operations. Pakistan also said it has frozen 33 bank accounts related to individuals and entities associated with LeT, JuD and FIF. In order to stem the fundraising activities of these outfits, the Nawaz Sharif government claimed to have put a ban on advertisements seeking funds in the name of charity, holding public rallies and has blocked websites and telephone services for raising of funds.

However, the report which Indian officials are likely to raise in Paris says that the Markaz is still running under the name of JuD, which indicates that asset freezing and prohibitions on collecting funds are not comprehensively implemented. Indian officials say that Jamaat-ud Dawa and its branches still openly hold public rallies and collect funds while Pakistan is lying to the international community on such action.


"It's all eyewash. Pakistan doesn't want to take action against UN listed organisations and individuals and doesn't comply with the recommendations of world body on terrorism financing — FATF," said a government functionary.

The Indian delegation, which includes officials from MHA, MEA and other agencies, will also share steps taken by the Narendra Modi-led government in curbing terror funding through banking and non-banking channels, confiscating terrorists' assets, action on money laundering and amending unlawful activities (prevention) act to criminalize terror financing.

In its last report to FATF in 2015, India had informed that Pakistan-based terror outfit Hizb-ul-Mujahideen was receiving funds originating from Pakistan through different channels.


China again stood by Pakistan at the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) meet at Brisbane in June, 2015 where we had strongly raised non-compliance by Islamabad on freezing assets of Lashkar-e-Taiba and its affiliates. China, however, felt that Pakistan was doing all it could and had been submitting reports to the Asia Pacific Group (APG) on Money Laundering that collaborates closely with the FATF. China also objected to India raising the issue at the FATF on the grounds that Pakistan was not member of the grouping. China will do exactly the same thing now.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby shiv » 16 Oct 2016 08:21

yensoy wrote:
shiv wrote:The drama itself was created by ISI/Paki army knowing that Almeida has a following. He was totally free to Tweet his feelings and advertise for support which he promptly got from all the parties that the Paki army would have expected to give him support. Then they reversed the travel ban


That's all fine, but is the story he reported true or false?

It is completely true, and was probably as scary to him as a death threat. But he is simply a useful tool for manipulation. No disrespect to him. Barkha Dutt, Mani Shankar Aiyer, wotziname Kulkarni and much of Bollywood are also useful idiots in India who assist the Paki army from time to time in acquiring the image of a moderate bunch of enlightened sensitive humans

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2016 09:02

Cosmo_R wrote:CA is very close to the 'deep state' he pretends to abhor. He does not like India/Indians/Hindus. He considers himself way above the Christian rabble (masihs) in pakistan. He has forged for himself a European/Portuguese identity that he thinks is a talisman against the Hamid Mir kind of deep state backlash.

Deep down, no different than the Ayaz Amir. Irfan Husains or for that matter the Nadeem Parachas. It is a big tamasha orchestrated by the ISI whom we give less credit than due for PR smarts.


the other day, mubashar luqman was whining about how if his name was Cyril Pinto, he could get away with anything in this country.

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Postby RCase » 16 Oct 2016 11:07

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ4ezhBBh7c

Here Moeed Pirzada and Wajahat Khan comparing Bakistan with AmirKhan with their 'leak' of civil-military relations. Here these RAPES are taking on the 'English' media of Bakistan as opposed to these guys with their Anglicized Erdoo. They compare Johnathan Pollard, Mordecai Vanunu, Chelsea Manning, Snowden and Assange with what Bakistan should do to their 'traitors'. :rotfl:

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Postby yensoy » 16 Oct 2016 12:03

shiv wrote:A great article about th self loathing Indian that belongs in this thread as well as others
http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... s-3085054/


She's the one who got impregnated by Taseer? Why does anyone take her seriously?

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Postby Rahul M » 16 Oct 2016 12:43

^^^ what is the problem with the article ?

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a comment by an interested observer (recd. by email)

India and Pakistan - Points to Discuss :

1) Pakistan says that it is interested in Kashmir because the majority of Kashmiri population is Muslim.

Question : India has around 240 million Muslims whereas Pakistan has 200 million. Will Pakistan risk it’s so called Muslim brethren in India by nuclear weapons.

If the Answer is YES, they will destroy Indian Muslims also, then why are they worried just about Kashmiri Muslims.

If the Answer is NO, they can’t harm Indian Muslims, then Pakis should keep their mouths shut, why so much of hue-n-cry and threatening India daily and flaunting their Nuclear capability. Rather, they should use their nuclear capability in generating power.

2) Two-Nation Theory : While inflicting injury to India in 1947 by cutting out a big chunk out of it, Pakistan was formed. Mooting a Two-Nation Theory while suggesting that Hindus and Muslims can’t live together, they separated. In last 70 years, Indian Muslims have increased in number and all the capable Muslims have been given fair enough chance to reach to their zenith. Muslims have their businesses and jobs all over India. Clashes are there even amongst the brothers in a family, so why quote Hindu-Muslim clashes. The progressive societies are becoming more and more mature with correct format of education. So, India has proved the Two-Nation theory of Pakistan, WRONG.
India was cut like a Cake – You can not cut a Country like a cake again and again and have it. What was done in 1947, once for all, should be treated as final.

3) Human Right Violation in Kashmir : Watch Bollywood movies of 60s, 70s and 80s, which were shot in Kashmir. Could you find any signs of Indian Army there. Pakistan first started misleading a hand-full of Sikhs and instigated them to form Khalistan. After failing in this, Pakistanis started radicalizing Kashmiri Muslims and instigated them to kill Kashmiri Hindus or Kashmiri Pandits. This started in 1989. Who gave arms and ammunition to Kashmiri Muslims ? The Pakistan Army gave all the logistic support and funds. This was the time when Indian Army had to step-in. Till now, Indian Security forces are fighting with radicalized and grossly mislead Kashmiris. India is forced to keep its Security Forces in Kashmir in order to keep a check on any sort of escalation of aggression by Pakistan. Pakistan is responsible for all the damages and killings in Kashmir.

4) Not spending money on Development of Kashmir : Pakistan claims that India doesn’t spend money on the development of Kashmir. It seems they don’t know how much Indian Kashmir has progressed. But one perspective can be - India has to spend so much money in containing Pakistan’s aggression, which could have otherwise spent on the development of Kashmir. Pakistan must think about this.

5) Truthfulness in honouring article 370 : India is honouring article 370 in all it’s truthfulness. No other Indian has been allowed so far to purchase property in Kashmir. On the contrary, Pakistan has infested Pakistan Occupied Kashmir with people from all over Pakistan so that in case of any plebiscite, they vote in favour of Pakistan.

6) Land vs Population in 1947 :
Ratio Per Person
AREA POPULATION Land in 1947

India 32,87,000 km² 360 million 4 : 11 (Adv Pak)
Pakistan 7,96,095 km² 32 million

In 1947, the Land vs Population shows 4:11 (India : Pakistan) advantage to Pakistan. It got almost 3 times more than what India got. This was also injustice done to India during partition.

7) Barbaric Invaders and Predators : Since 1175 AD, wealthy and prosperous India was regularly invaded by the Islamic barbaric invaders who looted it’s wealth and killed Indian kings and the people. In due course many Hindus were forced to convert to Muslim. The present Muslim population of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are converts in last 1000 years.
Pakistan has carry-forwarded the legacy of looting and capturing more of Indian territory. It’s vicious intension is quite visible if you look at the names of Pakistani missiles – Ghaznavi, Abdali, Gauri and Babur. They were all invaders and looted India.

Few Highlights of Pakistan’s regular attempts to destabilize India, in last 70 years :
a) Overt and Covert attacks on India
b) Making and pushing Fake Indian Currency into India
c) Indulging into Piracy of Indian movies
d) Hacking into Indian Computer Network. The very first computer virus in the world, ‘Brain’, was developed by Pakistani brothers in 1986. Pakistani talent focuses on disturbing the peace of the world.
e) They explored the disgruntled groups in India, instigated them and provided logistic support.

List is Endless

FINAL CONCLUSION :
Pakistan has done it’s experiment of having a separate Muslim nation, for 70 odd years now. It has failed miserably and has become economically weak, thriving on the alms given by others, wants a big brother support to piggy-ride and has become a truly Terrorist State. What’s the use of such a country. India was left with multi-culture and secular framework. It was a difficult task to keep the multi-dimensioned society united and progress. India has excelled in every respect.

To avoid further conflict, Pakistan can be suggested to dissolve itself and RE-UNITE with INDIA. See, what they will get :
a) Their GDP will increase immediately.
b) Re-united India will always remain world champion in Cricket, Hockey, Kabaddi, Wrestling, etc.
c) The money wasted on keeping the Pakistani attackers away from India will be saved, hence we can become much more powerful, economically too.
d) Ex-Pakis will feel pride in owning Bollywood, Taj Mahal, ISRO, Beautiful Indian Beaches, The Himalayas and much more.
e) Afghanistan will also be happy to find India as it’s immediate neighbour.

The list of benefits is endless. Please put this in Pakistanis’ mind.

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Postby shiv » 16 Oct 2016 12:45

yensoy wrote:
shiv wrote:A great article about th self loathing Indian that belongs in this thread as well as others
http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... s-3085054/


She's the one who got impregnated by Taseer? Why does anyone take her seriously?

Because she has written a must-read book that I have read. I will post the name here in case anyone is interested - it's "Durbar". In fact she mentions that affair in the book but that is only a minor part of the narrative. I think the book is a must read for anyone who thinks he or she is Indian. Those who wish to take her seriously will do that. If your choice is to dismiss her - it is your prerogative.

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Postby LokeshC » 16 Oct 2016 12:49

Just coz she got knocked up by a baki does not disqualify her. I take her very seriously. She is a shining beacon of sanity in the shit that is Indian press.

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Postby svinayak » 16 Oct 2016 14:02



Now Pak media and military have a tiff

They are admitting that terrorism is still going on

They are connecting thier internal problem with global issue and India internal

The guys keep quoting Indian agencies like NIA , BSF etc.

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Postby Rahul M » 16 Oct 2016 14:13

the funny thing on paki media these days is that they are giving themselves credit for 'defusing tension' & 'acting responsibly'. never thought I would see this day :D
reminded me of the chankian explanations of MMS' workings on BRF back in the day.

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Postby SSridhar » 16 Oct 2016 14:15

Nawaz extends another dialogue offer to Modi - DT
"India has always avoided... talks on Jammu and Kashmir. However, if Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is serious for talks and he keeps Jammu and Kashmir issue included in the dialogue then we are also ready for talks,"

Pakistan ready to talk to India for demilitarisation: Pak President - DT
He also demanded demilitarization of Kashmir, saying Pakistan was ready to talk to India

It is the turn of the wily old fox Sartaj Aziz - DT
Even if we cannot immediately solve Kashmir, it does not mean we cannot talk about it. We have to come to the table and keep talking about political solutions.


Of course, in all the above, the pleas for talks are interspersed with the usual Paki bravado. Leaving aside the swagger & bravado, the question therefore is why are three top leaders of Pakistan calling India for talks, especially after receiving a good spanking? It certainly cannot be a change of heart. I feel that Pakistan expects through these calls to activate the Indian 'talks-lobby' which is now silent and build-up pressure on Modi in order to terminate the current phase of Indian anger. Pakistan hopes to thrive on disunity within India. Its hope is that if the Indian gaddar liberals and their friends in the US can push the Modi-government into talks, it can then become intransigent once again, making a furious India take a tough stance which will then allow India to be painted as a spoil-sport. In the meanwhile, it thinks it can continue with its harassment, attacks here and there and possibly even lull us into complacency before planning another big attack trying to test whether the changed Indian stance of a bye-bye to 'strategic restraint' really holds or not.

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Postby Kashi » 16 Oct 2016 15:11

Rahul M wrote:the funny thing on paki media these days is that they are giving themselves credit for 'defusing tension' & 'acting responsibly'. never thought I would see this day :D


At the same time the jalan and taqleef is clearly evident. It's as if they need a kg of burnol just to be able to sit in their seats.

Already their toiletpapers have started :(( :(( on S400 and choppers, expect the visual media to start soon.

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Postby shiv » 16 Oct 2016 16:32

Rahul M wrote:the funny thing on paki media these days is that they are giving themselves credit for 'defusing tension' & 'acting responsibly'. never thought I would see this day :D
reminded me of the chankian explanations of MMS' workings on BRF back in the day.

I think they are speaking of their own actions in calming Pakis. They could have resorted to aggressive posturing but that would have meant being in denial of the Army story that nothing happened. That begs the question, if nothing happened what tension was defused? Inquiring minds would like to know.

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Postby Falijee » 16 Oct 2016 18:17

Challenges ahead for Sharif
Ayesha Siddiqa October 16, 2016

The second week of October seems to have been full of excitement, especially for those keenly watching civil-military relations in Pakistan. If we were to act out the dialogue between the civil and military leadership on foreign policy issues, as reported in the Dawn, it would probably give the same kick as a can of Red Bull.
The civilians are as powerless today as they were in 1958, 1977 and 1999, except that we have been made to believe that a change has happened.
Ganja is contented, as long as he is allowed to be (a)Baadshah of Pakiland (b) make money (c) his H&D is not much attacked
The problem with such claims is that they are too focused on the phenomenon of military takeovers. Such observers assess military’s power in terms of their capacity for direct intervention, the absence of which is deemed as a qualitative shift.
If not directly, the Paki Fauj indirectly, has always governed Pakistan .
In its almost 70 years of existence, Pakistan has witnessed military power in various forms. When the military junta did not rule directly as it did from 1958-62, 1969-71, 1977-84, and 1999-2002, the GHQ governed through a military president which means government operations monitored by a select group of military men.
We can observe two methods from 1958 to 2007. The first one is General Ayub Khan taking over the Muslim League and converting it to suit his style and interests, and using it as a political platform for himself. The second one was visible during the Ziaul Haq and Musharraf regimes in which the dictators opted for partnering with political parties that would work under their command as presidents.
The Musharraf period also denotes the beginning of a watershed moment for civil-military relations in Pakistan. The general’s successors like Generals Kayani and Sharif realised that they could avoid direct intervention while keeping control of affairs of the state. This was achieved by shifting from control of government to governance.
The GHQ Rawalpindi makes the decisions while the responsibility is shouldered by the civilian government
The other noticeable aspect of this approach is that the military does not have to partner with just one party but pick the eggs from all baskets that could be used and manipulated at appropriate time. For a successful functioning of this method, the military has over the years mastered the art of managing the national narrative. This was done by first expanding and then artfully managing the media
Demonizing Ganja, as an Agent of India, and propping up Imran Khan as an alternative are just two examples !.
The fact of the matter is that today the ISPR is a corps strength headed by a lieutenant general, an organisation that for years was run by a brigadier. The military PR agency today runs a large network of radio channels, has stakes in different television channels, finances films and theatre.
Not to speak of the "contracts" anticipated to go to the Faujis as a result of the so-called CPEC
Pakistan’s greatest issue is that it has evolved into a patronage system in which major groups develop their own patronage-client network that they have to feed — by extorting resources of the state. In doing this, the civil and military elite are both connected with each other. The battle of civil-military begins over the leadership role.
The Kerry-Lugar Bill ensures that, at the least ,Pakiland Govt will have a civilian facade ; the Aam Abduls are blissfully unaware that the aid spigot from Massa will automatically shut - off in case of a directly military take-over!
Traditionally and theoretically, powerful militaries withdraw from politics only if the cost of intervention becomes high, such as external threat or opposition from the people. The military in Pakistan flanked by nuclear weapons is powerful enough to thwart any external threat. As for internal opposition, there are quite some years before that to happen.

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Postby zoverian » 16 Oct 2016 18:30

Ajatshatru wrote:To counter BRICS, Pakistan has aligned itself with Rwanda, Iraq, Congo, Kazakhstan and Somalia.

Together, they call themselves PRICKS.

:D


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Postby Peregrine » 16 Oct 2016 19:42

Military boys set timer device on Nawaz Sharif government

NEW DELHI: The Pakistan army elite has sounded the warning bell for the beleaguered Nawaz Sharif government. At the Corps Commanders meeting on 14th October, the animosity towards the Prime Minister and his team was evident.

The terse statement that came out made it clear that that the powerful 'corner-plot-walas' blame the PMO for the leak to Dawn. They said that the article is a breach of national security and termed Cyril Almeida's information as "false and fabricated."

However, they did not clarify why a false and fabricated story could endanger national security.

The army gave the Sharif government five days to find out the source that 'fed' the information to Almeida about the crucial October 3rd meeting. Almeida's report had minute details and it was later backed by the editor of Dawn who said that the facts were checked and rechecked. During the five days that the Sharif government had to come up with a plausible explanation, the PMO bungled by first putting Almeida on the Exit Control List and then withdrawing it. It fielded Interior Minister Chaudhury Nisar to awkwardly explain its stand.

Meanwhile, almost the entire international public opinion favoured Almeida and press freedom.

Whoever planted the information on Dawn wanted it to appear that Nawaz Sharif and his brother Shahbaz Sharif, the chief minister of Punjab province, were knights in shining armour wanting to put terrorists behind bars+ but it was the army that was preventing it. As one journalist on a TV show said, "Inki capacity Chotu gang ko pakadne kii hai nahi, yeh kahaan sey Jaish ko pakdenge? Gullu Butt they couldn't catch who had one gun, they had to call the army." The reference is to small time gangsters, who are unafraid of the civilian governments in Pakistan. The insinuation was that it was preposterous suggestion in the Almeida report that Shahbaz Sharif had the gumption to have said what he did about the army protecting terrorists who Nawaz and Shahbaz wanted to crackdown on.

But TV commentators in Pakistan are now deducing that what actually happened was that after the success of Zarb-e-Azb, the military offensive against the Taliban in North Waziristan, and similar crackdown in Sindh, the army was keen to move into the Punjab province.

The Sharif brothers have been in-charge in the province for seven to eight years. This region is crawling with 'non-state actors' and has brought infamy to Pakistan. A Seek and Destroy operation in Punjab would bring laurels to whoever undertakes the mission.

If Pakistan Army Chief General Raheel Sharif was planning to launch this soon, clearly he had no plans to leave the mission in two months for somebody else to handle. The elaborate public relations campaign to boost the Army Chief's image did not indicate that Sharif would go anytime soon. Also, Nawaz Sharif is over anxious on choosing his man as the next Chief of Army Staff. That has always been a thing with Nawaz. He messed up in choosing Pervez Musharraf. He would want an Army Chief, who stays in the barracks and is not seen as the 'Upholder of National Prestige'.

Nawaz Sharif's family is under the Panama leaks cloud. The family believes that the continuous leaks originate from GHQ. In Pakistan, everything is a conspiracy. Then there is Imran Khan threatening a massive dharna from 30th October. He has said that anybody but Sharif is acceptable to him. That has led to rumours whether Shahbaz Sharif is a contender as he is the only senior family member whose name doesn't figure in Panama papers. But not to be outdone, there are those who say Shahbaz's mother-in-law figures in the list and that is
being touted by some elements in the media cell close to the PMO. Wheels within wheels.

Islamabad is now bracing itself for the inevitable. There was a gossamer coup of 2014 where Raheel Sharif took charge of foreign policy and security matters but left the rest to Nawaz. But now the distance between PMO and GHQ is too vast to be bridged. Raheel Sharif retires on 30th November and speculations were rife whether he would get an extension or fade away into the sunset.

But the fact is that a General is a General till the day he superannuates. Especially so in Pakistan. Nawaz Sharif probably miscalculated that Raheel was a lame duck. If anything Raheel is now a wounded tiger, a dangerous beast.

While the print media in Pakistan is still leaning on supporting Dawn and by and large supports the elected government, television studios and the Urdu media have started the migration towards the army. Talking heads have begun laying the blame for Pakistan's isolation in the world to Nawaz Sharif. Bilawal Bhutto's slogan "Modi ka jo yaar hai, gaddar hai gaddar hai" is played on almost all channels, though Bilawal has tried to distance himself from the slogan off late.

Long time journalists now question why Nawaz Sharif did not speak at the UN about the capture of Kulbhushan Yadav, a RAW operative who is said to have admitted working to destabilize India. One expert even offered a cash award if anybody could get Sharif to mention Kulbhushan Yadav's name. So, in addition to being anti-army Sharif is blamed of being pro-India. A lethal combination for any Prime Minister of Pakistan.

The word is out in corridors of power and the marketplace that Nawaz Sharif's days are numbered. But Sharif still might have some aces up his sleeve. He is a long time player of the military versus government game

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Postby Philip » 16 Oct 2016 19:43

Guys,please note that Rwanda is flourishing economically right now-pals who've recently visited are raving about its prospects and Kazakhastan is sitting on incredible oil wealth.You could substitute Ruritania (non-existant now!),Yemen (instead of an I) Chad instead of Congo,Kurdistan ( hopefully),and Somalia!
PRYCKS

Now here is Pak's sensational plan to counter Indian strikes by committing suicide!
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... oi_traffic
Pakistan prepares operational plan, selects targets in India: Report
Shubhodeep Chakravarty | TNN | Updated: Sep 23, 2016, 17:49 IST

HIGHLIGHTS
Sources in Pakistan's military establishment have revealed for retaliatory purposes, the country has selected Indian targets.
Defense establishment has said Pakistan is 'fully capable of giving befitting reply in case India strikes first.'

An operational plan is also reportedly been prepared.
Tension between India and Pakistan on the rise since terror attack in Uri.

NEW DELHI: Pakistan's armed forces have reportedly selected targets in India in case the latter decides to move first with strikes against the country. In a Geo TV report, it is stated that an operational plan has also been prepared by the military establishment to retaliate against any possible offensive from across the border.
Quoting sources placed in the defense establishment, the news report states that targets in 'war-mongering' India+ have been selected in case of 'aggression or surgical strikes from the enemy.' One such source has said that Pakistan is fully prepared to counter India. "Pakistan is fully prepared to meet any military challenge from India. Our operational plan is ready, quid pro quo targets are finalised and forces have been dedicated."

US, India, Afghanistan discuss ways of getting around Pakistan
Another source is quoted as saying that regardless of the nature of developments in the weeks to come, Pakistan forces will remain on high alert. "Whether it is a Cold Start or hot pursuit, we are ready. India is well aware of our capabilities and also knows the fact that despite the Pakistan Army's participation in internal security issues, a military balance is well maintained to meet any challenge from across the border."
The source even went to the extent of saying that 'in case of surgical attack from India, Pakistan would immediately respond for which targets had already been set.'

Tensions between India and Pakistan have spiked since the terror attack on an Indian army base+ in Uri on Sunday. Four terrorists were gunned down but 18 brave soldiers also lost their lives, even as India came out strongly+ to condemn the incident and the entire terror network in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK). Indian security establishment even provided the government with a variety of punitive but limited actions possible against Pakistan without actually going to war, which range from "surgical strikes" to "cross-border raids" by special forces or ghatak platoons of infantry battalions. Prime Minister Narendra Modi also promised+ that perpetrators of the ghastly attack would be brought to justice. These may have played a big role in Pakistan becoming rather jittery.
Furthermore, there was a report that Indian forces had crossed the Line of Control+ near Uri and eliminated 20 terrorists in a surgical strike+ . This though was denied by Indian Army sources.


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Postby CRamS » 16 Oct 2016 20:31

LokeshC wrote:Just coz she got knocked up by a baki does not disqualify her. I take her very seriously. She is a shining beacon of sanity in the shit that is Indian press.


I agree. Both Tavleen Singh and Fair didi after getting enamored and donked by TFTA Pakis realized what those skunks really are. While Tavleen Singh's views on TSP are right on the money, as also on the valley of Kashmir where she unequivocally states that Islamism is the problem (unlike that RAPE b!tch burka who keeps peddling this so called "nuanced view"). However, every now and then I get irritated when she appears supercilious in going after RSS. Not that RSS should not be criticized, but she takes the silly elitist route that they are atavistic, anti-women etc etc.

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Postby CRamS » 16 Oct 2016 20:51

SSridhar wrote:Of course, in all the above, the pleas for talks are interspersed with the usual Paki bravado. Leaving aside the swagger & bravado, the question therefore is why are three top leaders of Pakistan calling India for talks, especially after receiving a good spanking? It certainly cannot be a change of heart. I feel that Pakistan expects through these calls to activate the Indian 'talks-lobby' which is now silent and build-up pressure on Modi in order to terminate the current phase of Indian anger. Pakistan hopes to thrive on disunity within India. Its hope is that if the Indian gaddar liberals and their friends in the US can push the Modi-government into talks, it can then become intransigent once again, making a furious India take a tough stance which will then allow India to be painted as a spoil-sport. In the meanwhile, it thinks it can continue with its harassment, attacks here and there and possibly even lull us into complacency before planning another big attack trying to test whether the changed Indian stance of a bye-bye to 'strategic restraint' really holds or not.


SS, my take is that there is some change in heart in this sense. Recall, when bad Sheriff and Kayani before him took over the reins of the terrorist enterprise, they went back on the MMS/MushRat formula. My own feeling is that TSP wants to revive that given the pressure they are under now. And in that, they have the complete support and collusion of the entire Indian elite, opposition, US etc. Mark my word on this. ModiJi will be under tremendous pressure by traitors within and India TSP equal equal brigade in US to resume talks. Even Trump has been coached along the same lines (read my post in the India US thread). I don't think this brigade will allow India to maintain the current pressure on TSP. I am already seeing the p!ssnick brigade in India make the same old noises.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby yensoy » 16 Oct 2016 23:59

shiv wrote:Because she has written a must-read book that I have read. I will post the name here in case anyone is interested - it's "Durbar". In fact she mentions that affair in the book but that is only a minor part of the narrative. I think the book is a must read for anyone who thinks he or she is Indian. Those who wish to take her seriously will do that. If your choice is to dismiss her - it is your prerogative.


Guess she must have had a "come to Jesus" moment sometime later in life... From my PoV, she is as much a Delhi insider as the ones she is talking about in that note.

LokeshC wrote:Just coz she got knocked up by a baki does not disqualify her. I take her very seriously. She is a shining beacon of sanity in the shit that is Indian press.


I quite like Sania Mirza. The duffer she picked (which is her/family's choice) is obviously not worthy of her but her life, her choice and I love the fact she plays for India.

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Postby Gus » 17 Oct 2016 00:18

yensoy wrote: From my PoV, she is as much a Delhi insider as the ones she is talking about in that note.
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well duh. who's going to pay for her lifestyle? a crowdfund led by us?


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