Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

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NRao wrote:@Muppalla,

I tend to agree, Trump is not out.

I think HRC still has to deal with her emails. And, that may just keep people at home.
Remember Brexit. It was 7% in the last opinion polls for staying in EU. What is total UK population. How can the opinion polls fail. It is all a rigged system as all the opinion polls tried their best to influence the voter. But as the fear of staying in EU increased, the rural and semi-urban folks came out in hordes and voted out.

WaPo-ABC poll gave just 4% to Hillary. Again there is massive-massive anger in suburban and rural areas. If these folks vote by extra 5%, the game is over for Hillary. This election is not really about morality and political correctness. It is about uprooting establishment. No one really cares what is its replacement. See the wildness. Bernie talks like Comrade Breznev on economics but still a darling. Hillary barely edged him out. Same on the otherside. The nastiness or past womenization is not really changing the equation.

Media is working for Hillary and doing all kinds of psyops similar to 7% Brexit.

One more thing, in battleground states people are quite with no stickers on cars. Basically there is no open display of enthusiasm. I live in VA suburbs of DC but I rarely see car stickers. However, massive turnout is being expected.

Interesting election for sure. Hillary even if she wins can't survive with such a mother load of corruption. I am living here for two decades now. I haven't heard the type of corruption ever in US. We discussed in other threads about India's UPA scandals and Burka Dutt types being part of Radia tapes etc. Tell me now what is the difference of those to that of Clinton foundation, emails and the media circus here in first world?
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you are comparing a nation wide poll with the electoral college system. It is the margins in so-called battle ground states that matter and hrc is far beyond the margin of error lead in enough states to cross over comfortably.

all this "hidden voters for trump that will come out on election day" is just another nonsensical theory that has no evidence whatsoever.
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Gus wrote:you are comparing a nation wide poll with the electoral college system. It is the margins in so-called battle ground states that matter and hrc is far beyond the margin of error lead in enough states to cross over comfortably.

all this "hidden voters for trump that will come out on election day" is just another nonsensical theory that has no evidence whatsoever.
Even if we go by your theory, the states FL, OH, NV are in the range of 3% gap. The states of VA, PA, CO etc are in the range of 5%. (forget the outliers like NBC and Rasmussen). Everything is around margins of error. Rest is all decided states. Just few events and changes along with few extra point voters in the pockets of GOP is all enough to change scales.

The whole like GOP voters are not with Trump is surely an incorrect line.
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All this talk of a rigged election means a coup is possible too, no? If neither candidate is trusted, it will fall to the Army to restore the public's faith in democracy.
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Muppalla wrote:Even if we go by your theory, the states FL, OH, NV are in the range of 3% gap. The states of VA, PA, CO etc are in the range of 5%. (forget the outliers like NBC and Rasmussen). Everything is around margins of error. Rest is all decided states. Just few events and changes along with few extra point voters in the pockets of GOP is all enough to change scales.
Trump has not managed to move any non-trump voter for the past many weeks. All he can do is get back the ones that fled him.

The election is over.

Early voting is going on now when Trump is at his worst and Dems have an intensive 'get out the vote' program.

I repeat. The election is over.
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Muppalla wrote:
Even if we go by your theory, the states FL, OH, NV are in the range of 3% gap. The states of VA, PA, CO etc are in the range of 5%. (forget the outliers like NBC and Rasmussen). Everything is around margins of error. Rest is all decided states. Just few events and changes along with few extra point voters in the pockets of GOP is all enough to change scales.

The whole like GOP voters are not with Trump is surely an incorrect line.
This is why NBC got a hold of the hot mic audio with Billy Bush and passed it on to the Clinton campaign. It is demoralize the older Republicans from even voting. In any case HRC will not get more than 50% in any state, but still win a given state because DT will be in the lower 40s and HRC in the upper 40s. Not a majority, but plurality. Look for the counties where HRC wins with over 75% popular vote as this is a statistical anomaly and suggests booth capturing. It will happen in Philadelphia, Cleveland, and Miami.

This election proves that the United States is a shamocracy - and yes the election is absolutely rigged. DT must NOT concede on the evening of 08 November and ask for recount by impartial international observers.
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See how really it is different between polls and reality. That fella Gillespie would have won 2014 had he got 0.4% more votes in just two rural districts.

Gillespie lost by 0.8% in Virginia Senate Race in 2014. Look at the poll numbers.

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Not like India with castes religions etc. A simple demographics and these folks can't even come close to their own margins of errors. A small shift is all it needs to change the whole thing.
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Secret Weppun Melanie Trumpanzini Begum has come out in strong support of darling hubby. Her makeup looks a lot less scary than POTUS2B's. :mrgreen: Pity SHE can't stand for POTUS, being a durned furriner.

ppl hu vote so early are those with no imagination - surely one wants to wait until thursday to get the essence of the next wonderfully intellectual, stimulating and educative debate with its depth on issues.
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Must watch WITH SOUND TURNED UP to get the full impact:

http://www.myajc.com/videos/news/mike-l ... ew/vDrMHW/
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some group called 'freedom of electoral democracy' or something formed in India should send envoys to monitor elections in US, citing these allegations of massive frauds. With cameras and all and talk to hillbillies and loony lefts alike for nutty soundbytes.
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Muppalla wrote:See how really it is different between polls and reality. That fella Gillespie would have won 2014 had he got 0.4% more votes in just two rural districts.

Gillespie lost by 0.8% in Virginia Senate Race in 2014. Look at the poll numbers.

Not like India with castes religions etc. A simple demographics and these folks can't even come close to their own margins of errors. A small shift is all it needs to change the whole thing.
alright, you want to put your money where your mouth is. 5 dollars or a beer whenever we meet. game?
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^^^I'll take it as there will be booth capturing, but I don't drink beer.
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The problem is the Winner Take All system in the electoral college (and the primaries as well). It ensures that there will be a "clear" winner but that is almost as good as a coin toss for all the deliberative value that it has. If they just turned it into a lottery it would be so much simpler, except that everyone will try to fix the lottery.
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I don't drink and I don't even say that Hillary don't win. Even in the example above, the opinion poll projected person won. Just saying that even when there were large gap projections, the real win came very close in battleground state. Now none of the projections are over 5% anywhere that are swing states. It will be a close election and not some that is being projected.
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look guys. Don't worry about not drinking.

I will win the bet and do all the drinking. I got that part covered.

AL:

don't wimp out now. y'all are trump supporters. BE STRONG. not weak. :D
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^^^You can have the beer, I'll have the gau mutra to appropriately celebrate the HRC win.
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It bodes badly for India, that NYT got the anti-Trump groping stuff out as a big "expose". They will claim numero uno position in the HRC admin as the rag of choice, and NYTs link to breaking India, hinduphobic orgs is well known.
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Anglo-Saxon take on why Indians,"Hindus" are with Trump.This has a mischievous flavour,as it is totally demeaning to Hindus and Indians in general.Indians/Hindus are NOT fundamentalists,as is being portrayed.Why aren't Jewish associations/groups not being called "fundamentalist" for one? They are proud to be Jewish and support israel just as Indians ("HIndus",forgetting the Sikhs and other Indian minorities who live in the US) in the US support India!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... lism-india
Hindus for Trump: behind the uneasy alliance with rightwing US politics
Hindu nationalists have rallied behind Donald Trump’s stances on terrorism and immigration, but many South Asians reject an association with the
Republican Hindu Coalition chairman Shalli Kumar, center, stands with Donald Trump at a Bollywood-themed charity concert. Photograph: Jonathan Ernst/Reuters
Rashmee Kumar in Edison, New Jersey
Monday 17 October 2016
To a South Asian onlooker, this could have been a scene from any other Desi function on a Saturday night. The booming Bollywood music beckoned a stream of families, wearing ornate saris and sharp kurtas, fragrant plates of samosa chaat in hand, toward the stage, replete with an extravagant display of lights and visuals.

But among the convivial crowds also stood a white man wearing a baseball cap and shirt that read “Hillary for Prison”. The placards waiting on empty seats called out “Trump for Hindu Americans” and “Trump Great for India”. Everyone was waiting for Donald Trump.

Three weeks before the election, Trump made a brief but rousing appearance at the Republican Hindu Coalition’s (RHC) Humanity United Against Terror charity concert, an event framed around raising money to combat “radical Islamic terrorism”, particularly for Hindus from Bangladesh and Kashmir.

“I’m a big fan of Hindu, and I’m a big fan of India,” Trump told hundreds of enthusiastic attendees in Edison, New Jersey, a town known for its sizable South Asian population.

Terrorism made for a dissonant theme on a night filled with several upbeat music and dance performances by Indian choreographer Prabu Deva and Signature, the dance group known for competing on Britain’s Got Talent.

The introduction to the national anthem featured a simulated terrorist attack, in which two couples dancing on stage were suddenly attacked by two men covered in brown cloth, who were shouting and wielding toy guns with green lightsabers attached. Men dressed as US Navy Seals entered to defeat the terrorists. They all stood together for the Star-Spangled Banner before dancing to Bruce Springsteen’s Born in the USA.

Trump, after lighting Diwali lamps onstage with the RHC’s founding chairman, Shalabh “Shalli” Kumar, said: “The Indian and Hindu community will have a true friend in the White House.

“Generations of Hindu and Indian Americans have strengthened our country,” he said. “Your values and hard work, education and enterprise, have truly enriched our nation.”

A group of men hold posters as they wait for Donald Trump at the event in Edison, New Jersey, on Saturday. Photograph: Kena Betancur/Getty Images
The Republican nominee went on to praise the Indian prime minister, Narendra Modi, as a “great man” and confused the 2001 Indian parliament attack with the 2008 Mumbai attacks in his pledge to fight terrorism.

“We will stand shoulder to shoulder with India and share intelligence in keeping our people safe mutually,” he said.

The RHC supports Trump’s stances on immigration and terrorism, including his “extreme vetting” policy on incoming refugees, said Kumar, a businessman originally from Punjab.

“The Islamic extremist terrorists have declared a war on us. They have declared they will use every possible means to infiltrate into the US through refugees coming in who have nothing but a piece of paper with their name and not even a passport or birth certificate,” Kumar told the Guardian. “We should also monitor the mosques throughout the US and wherever the centers of this type of activity exist.”

'He’s our hero': Hindu nationalists rally for Donald Trump in India

Kamal Singh of Edison, New Jersey, said he believed Trump, who he referred to as “the big leader”, will stand with India in fighting terrorist organizations from Pakistan.

“Trump is for peace and he’s fighting against terrorism,” Singh said.

Trump refrained from overt critique of ongoing tensions in an interview with Hindustan Times: “I would love to see Pakistan and India get along because that’s a very, very hot tinderbox.”

The RHC plans to donate half of the event’s proceeds to Hindu refugees from Bangladesh and Kashmiri Hindus, known as Hindu pandits, who underwent what Kumar called “the second Hindu holocaust”, the first being Partition after India’s independence in 1947 from British colonial rule, he said.

A dance routine with a simulated terrorist act is performed before Donald Trump speaks at the Republican Hindu Coalition’s Humanity United Against Terror charity concert. Photograph: UPI/Barcroft Images
“They were very prominent, very educated, highly intellectual people who had to leave their homes and become refugees. The plight has been somewhat forgotten under political correctness” of the Indian government, Kumar said.

In the 1990s, about 100,000 Hindu pandits in the Muslim-majority state of Kashmir fled from a separatist uprising in response to frustrations with the Indian government’s treatment of Kashmir and its people.

The charities that will receive the donations have not yet been decided, but Kumar said the RHC will consult Kashmiri Hindu actor Anupam Kher and the Indian government for guidance.

Inspired by the Republican Jewish Coalition, the RHC formed in November 2015 “to provide a single, unified platform for Hindu Americans to have a respected voice on the policy table in the United States as well as India”, said Kumar, who considers himself the first Indian American Republican after meeting Ronald Reagan in 1979.

Kumar said Hindu Republicans, who make up about 13% of the Hindu American population, align with Trump on four major policy principles: free enterprise with small government, fiscal discipline with a constitutional amendment to eliminate deficits, legislation that upholds the “traditional” family unit, and a firm foreign policy stance against terrorism.

“I always say as a Hindu, I have two targets on my head: one for being Hindu and the second because I’m an American,” Kumar said.

Trump with Shalli Kumar

Donald Trump stands with Shalli Kumar after speaking to the Republican Hindu Coalition. Photograph: Jonathan Ernst/Reuters
“Donald Trump will be the most pro-India, pro-Hindu, pro-Bharat president in the history of the United States,” Kumar said, using another name for India that Modi’s Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata party defines as “the ancient word for the motherland of Hindus”.

For Hindu nationalists, Trump models what it takes to be an American success, said Arvind Rajagopal, a media studies professor at New York University.

“Like the American right, Hindu nationalists combine religious conservatism with the unbridled pursuit of success,” said Rajagopal, author of Politics After Television: Hindu Nationalism and the Reshaping of the Public in India. “Hindu nationalists want to make India great again.”

Hindu nationalism is rooted in the belief that Muslim and British invasions defiled Hindu culture and values, which are seen as synonymous with those of India, writes Syracuse professor Prema Kurien in her book A Place at the Multicultural Table: the Development of an American Hinduism.

The ideology resurged amid the post-independence violence of Partition, in which hundreds of thousands of Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs were killed in the largest mass migration in history. Hindu nationalists alleged discrimination against the newly established secular government, claiming a sense of religious superiority and uniqueness, Kurien writes.

Narendra Modi: the divisive manipulator who charmed the world* (What an effing piece of Bsh*t!) :oops:


With the rise of the BJP in the 1980s and Modi’s election as prime minister in 2014, Hindu nationalism has become further entrenched in India, where Muslims have been killed merely upon suspicion of eating or smuggling beef.

Over the summer, Hindu nationalists in India performed ceremonial rituals for Trump in the hopes that their worship would help him get elected, so he can “put an end to Islamic terrorism”.

“The Hindu community has always believed that the world is one family,” said spiritual leader Sri Sri Ravi Shankar in a prerecorded message during the New Jersey even. “The Hindu community of North America has always been kind-hearted, peace-loving, and always ready to contribute for charity and development of America.”

Kumar echoed the message of Hinduism as a tolerant and accepting religion that promotes spirituality.

“You could be atheist and still be a Hindu because Hinduism is a way of life rather than a traditional religion with one prophet or one god or one book,” he said.

But many South Asians, appalled by the event’s Islamophobic and xenophobic undertones, mobilized through protests and social media to challenge the growing alliance between Hindu nationalism and rightwing American politics.

“This isn’t just isolated to Trump,” said Thenmozhi Soundararajan, a member of the Alliance for Justice and Accountability (AJA), a coalition of progressive South Asian groups. “This is about the nexus of Hindu fundamentalism finding a home with Republicans who are using a very real fundamentalism in the US to fight the bogeyman of Islam.”

Soundararajan criticized how the RHC framed violence in Kashmir as a conflict that pits the aggrieved Hindu victims against Islam in a disputed territory embroiled in an ongoing struggle for self-determination.

“This event is erasing the reality of Kashmir’s occupation by India and elevating the story of Kashmiri pandits over the many who were attacked by the Indian military this summer,” she said. “This is part of the culture of silence and impunity that leads to Kashmir’s ongoing occupation.”

Soundararajan said Kumar, who has donated nearly $900,000 to Trump’s campaign and maintains close ties to Republican party leaders such as Paul Ryan and Newt Gingrich, works to justify GOP policies from a South Asian perspective.

“Kumar is the acceptable brown Asian,” she said. “He helps ‘brown-wash’ these larger Islamophobic and xenophobic positions toward Muslims and other immigrants.”

The AJA launched a social media campaign called #SouthAsiansDumpTrump to rally South Asian Americans to denounce the event’s anti-Muslim sentiments and to call out members of the Desi community who support Trump.


Soundararajan said the event’s celebration of Diwali suggested that attendees were mostly upper caste, thus excluding South Asian communities who have been marginalized by the caste system, which places people into a hierarchy based on birth and has been used to oppress lower caste and Dalit communities in India and the diaspora.

“Diwali and Dussehra are both upper-caste holidays that celebrate the death of tribals and the ascent of Aryan culture over Dravidian culture,” said Soundararajan, a Dalit American artist and activist. “In many ways Dalit communities do not celebrate this event – it’s literally about the killing of our people.”

Roshni Bhambhwani, a museum professional living in Niskayuna, New York, organized the protest because she said people needed to see Hindu Americans who were against Trump.

“I wanted [event attendees] to feel ashamed that they went to see this man who is clearly a misogynist and has sexually assaulted and harassed women and who, frankly, probably couldn’t care less about them,” she said.

A small group of mostly South Asian demonstrators were confronted by Trump supporters outside the venue after the Republican nominee’s speech.

Mostly white men surrounded protesters and shouted racist and Islamophobic slurs and anti-Hillary Clinton chants while moving in closer, said Sudip Bhattacharya.

“I’ve been involved in protests before, but this is the first time I was actually scared at a rally, and I’ve faced racism before,” said Bhattacharya, a PhD student from Monroe, New Jersey.

Dedunu Suraweera said Hindu Trump supporters approached them to talk directly about their opposing perspectives.

“They would say things like, ‘Well we don’t want these people bombing our countries so we shouldn’t let them in. There’s too many Muslims threatening the safety of the country.’ And then tying it back to India,” she said. “So there was a lot of conversation with them about why that was messed up.”

Suraweera, an educator from New York City who regularly visited Edison growing up, said she found it impactful to be able to speak directly to Hindus in the community.

“It’s important for South Asians to see resistance in this way,” she said. “I don’t know any other time in terms of South Asian organizing where I experienced us challenging the values and beliefs of our own people in our actual communities … For me it was really powerful to be there and to show that we exist and we resist this rhetoric.”
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Nobel Academy can't find Bob Dylan to give him his prize........... :rotfl:

http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/awar ... ve-n667996

"Don't need a weatherman to know which the wind blows".................. :D
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Philip wrote:Anglo-Saxon take on why Indians,"Hindus" are with Trump.This has a mischievous flavour,as it is totally demeaning to Hindus and Indians in general.Indians/Hindus are NOT fundamentalists,as is being portrayed.Why aren't Jewish associations/groups not being called "fundamentalist" for one? They are proud to be Jewish and support israel just as Indians ("HIndus",forgetting the Sikhs and other Indian minorities who live in the US) in the US support India!
In between somebody puts Hindutva into the Indian american scene and Trump.
Hindutva has nothing to do in America and it is only an Indian domestic ideology.
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Where does the western media people find people like Thenmozhi Soundararajan to provide commentary on India and Indian history?
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Karan M wrote:It bodes badly for India, that NYT got the anti-Trump groping stuff out as a big "expose". They will claim numero uno position in the HRC admin as the rag of choice, and NYTs link to breaking India, hinduphobic orgs is well known.
It would be tough to project based on just that. There were concurrent investigative reports being worked upon when the Palm beach paper and the Times broke their stories respectively. Also, remember the times was the first to break HRC's justice department investigation last year. Its better to look at the people each candidate picks to see where they will be heading as far as foreign affairs are concerned. In this context, look at the top couple of people at State and the Pentagon. In the latter it could very well be Flournoy - Kendall as SecDef and Deputy-SecDef.
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Cuomo says Trump is a gift to Democrats from 'the Good Lord'

This is the first time I've seen anyone compare Bill Clinton to the "good lord".

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UlanBatori wrote:All this stuff about Beauty contests is nonsense. Having watched Miss Congeniality4 times in the Ulan Bator Laughing Yak Cinema Palace, I happen to be an expert on the subject. It is perfectly routine for the organizers to walk in on partially-clad (and that of course is an overstatement since 'normal attire' is a couple of handkerchiefs) contestants. The scary thing would be if Trump were to walk in on the contestants b4 they put on their makeup. :eek: :oops:

Here is a story of a traveler who had slipped down a cliff, with man-eating tigers above him and a lethal fall below him, who managed to stop his fall halfway down the side of the cliff, holding on for dear life. There was a clump of strawberries beside him, and certain death above him and below. What should he do? went the question.

And the reply was, Eat the strawberries.

Reminds me of Marie Antoinette- let them eat cake analogy.

America is in serious trouble.
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It just goes to show that the POTUS is a figurehead. The System runs fine on the Federal Reserve, the Power-Brokers, the Lobbyists & Bureaucrats & the Armed Police (Baniya-Mantri-Baboon-Bolis). Plus the NRA and CNN to decide elections. BTW, UBCNews has decided 2 b the first Major International Noose Channel to endorse Trump. After watching Melania it's a slam-dunk decision. Do you want to spend the next 4 years watching Slick Willie as the FBOTUS or Mohterma Melanie as FLOTUS, hain?
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The American people are mere peasants to their elite. Although peasants are in general smarter.
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Plus - U read it here first. UBCN Exit Poll Projection based on 2nd Day of Early Voting. Statistically overwhelming sample of 2 voters: Landlside win for Melania Trumpanzee.
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If the elections are close, count on Defence Secretary Hagel's family, who own the Diebold voting machine maker, to conspire with the DNC to steal the vote. (Votes will be stolen on both sides)
Donald needs a fairly wide margin if he is to beat the cheat.
The next trick will be to declare, ''too much rigging,'' and for Biden to be sworn in as 'interim president' while the Klingons make other plans to keep Trump out.
He's not one of the club. They are terrified he will throw them in jail.

For The Donald to win, it needs to be like the UP general elections of 2014, ballot upon ballot paper voting for Lotus. No naam o nishan of haath anywhere, except in form of thappad to Cong.
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social media analysis of Trump and Clinton supporters reveal interesting stats:

Bain Dewitt sends --
MEDIA IS LYING, DONALD TRUMP IS WAY, WAY AHEAD OF HILLARY
Trump cannot lose unless the US election is rigged.
Here is a summary:
Fact 1:
Facebook.
Trump 12,174,358 likes.
Clinton: 4,385,959 likes.

Live stream videos recently played.
Trump: 21 hours ago; 135,000 likes 18,167 shares, 1.5 million views
Clinton: 25 hours ago; 9,000 likes, 0 shares, 121,000 views

Fact 2:
Twitter followers.
Trump: 18 million
Clinton: 6 million

Fact 3:
Views per live stream.
Trump: 160.000. 5,000 % more eyeballs.
Hillary: 400.

Fact 4:
Instagram followers.
Trump: 6.2 million
Clinton: 0.8 million

Fact 5:
Reddit subscribers
Trump: 297,696
Clinton: 21,429

Hillary for prison: 255,228 :rotfl:

DNC emails from Wikileaks prove that Hillary has fake subscribers in all these social media platforms. If you view source on her campaign homepage, and read the HTML comments, she is hiring programmers and called the election process an "18 month HACKATHON". :wink:

Trump simply can't lose unless the election is as rigged as the media.
Trump is way, way ahead of Hillary and has 5000% more Livestream viewers.

real reason why media is hammering Trump.

Trump's Internal Polling Revealed

The reason the media has been throwing everything but the kitchen sink at Trump lately is because the internal polling (which both candidates are doing) showed Hillary was falling behind and stuck behind Trump. Both candidates know that the media polls are mostly garbage which over-samples Democrats.

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Well.. I have this theory that this was Trumpanzee's way of triggering the artillery/missile barrage 3 weeks BEFORE election day, getting the donkeys to show as many of their cards as possible. Now he has 2 weeks of counter-attack time - and who can blame him for counter-attacking after THAT?

Given that he is a real-estate bijnejman, he probably reasons accurately that the attention span/ memory of the average voter is about on par with that of a chameleon. So his own propaganda needs to peak just in the first week of November. Early voters are already decided and probably too snooty and highly ejjikated, so no hope of swaying those - but there I think 60% will be anti-HiC whether that will make them vote for Trumpanzee or not.

I assume that there is more good stuff coming from Wikileaks - and hopefully Aleppo will be liberated just in time.
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UlanBatori wrote:Now he has 2 weeks of counter-attack time - and who can blame him for counter-attacking after THAT?
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I assume that there is more good stuff coming from Wikileaks -
Nothing is moving that needle. Want to join Muppalla ji and Mort ji ? :P
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komal wrote:Where does the western media people find people like Thenmozhi Soundararajan to provide commentary on India and Indian history?
And she is identified as a "Dalit American" artist!
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Republican party is broken today. Democratic party will be broken tomorrow.

Not unlike 2009, Indian election- both Sonia's Congress and Advani's BJP were broken.

In broken Indian polity of 2009-2014, RSS made available candidate that unified India. Can the US deep state throw up a candidate to unify the nation state? Clearly DT nor HRC inspire any confidence.

If HRC gets in, she will do exactly what Sonia Maino did from 2010 to 2014. Loot and more loot. Everything in US will be up for sale. Does India have deep pockets to buy technology at this fire-sale?
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That vid on Trump internal poll is very interesting. Two problems. Those lines the guy/s have drawn are as funny as they get. But , heck, it is internal - they can do what they want and therefore say what they want (which is what they did in the vid). Secondly, unless I missed it, no mention of electoral college? That makes that vid "rigged".
Does India have deep pockets to buy technology at this fire-sale?
Yup. It still will come with veto power and embedded veto. Hillary will never let go of that veto. Especially WRT to India. IMHO better to look for alternatives. Much cheaper in the longer run.



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komal wrote:Where does the western media people find people like Thenmozhi Soundararajan to provide commentary on India and Indian history?
"Her work is backed by the Robert Rauschenberg Foundation, which last week announced that she is part of its inaugural class of Artist as Activist fellows. The fellowship is one of an increasing amount of grants that backs people who blur the lines between engaging with people through art and engaging with people through activism."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... d-activism
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Kannan wrote:
habal wrote:I read a report that Obama was abandoned by his drunken bum of a father, his mother was a pronographic film star to make ends meet. It also mentioned that michelle Obama was frequently living in the Jessie Jackson house in Chicago, it hinted that 'she was Jessies favorite little girl'.
If Bill Clinton gets into the white house, it will be full of 12 year old girls giving him "massages".
Sick bunch of trash running the united states.
If you read it on the internet it must be true! Too bad you didn't let the Republicans know ten years ago, they would've paid you good money for this report.
:)
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TSJones wrote:Nobel Academy can't find Bob Dylan to give him his prize........... :rotfl:

http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/awar ... ve-n667996

"Don't need a weatherman to know which the wind blows".................. :D
He did not even acknowledge the prize. :) Truly his own man.
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kvjayan wrote: And she is identified as a "Dalit American" artist!
not daleet american? :roll:

what a load of BS. like it is unacceptable for her to have 'indian american' in her identity and dalit is a 'non-indian' identity and therefore 'dalit american' :roll:
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