Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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SSridhar wrote:Above all, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi itself has a strong motive to attack the police. It was last year that the LeJ's emir Malik Ishaque was killed by the Punjab police in a fake encounter along with another LeJ co-founder Ghulam Rasool Shah. It is ironic that Quetta was where this happened.
Didn't the encounter happen in Paki Punjab, Muzaffargarh to be precise? Or did you mean the present incident?
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Dinesh S wrote: Isn't it sad that sons of Chanakya and Krishna are debating about stooping low when dealing with an abomination like pakistan? Would mahabharata been won if Lord Krishna had played by morals and ethics?

Indians seriously need to get over themselves and get down from this pathetic high horse. Its not going to help us in anyway. Have you even seen any mainstream westerner, let alone a jingo, accept how barbaric their acts are in the world even today?
Read your Mahabharata again. This is not the "ashwathhama hatha kunjaraha" moment. There will be a place and time this has to happen (as it did with Mukti Bahini - one decisive blow - ek maar do tukda).

We don't need to bend the rules now, and we can stay on our high horse. In fact, if we start propagating conspiracy theories we will lose the audience, because any audience can only be educated or influenced at the rate of its maturity and what it is willing to accept. This is like teaching calculus to second standard kids, won't get us anywhere.

Messages like Omar Abdullah & Dr Sub Swamy's beautifully captured on youtube would have been considered "one point of view" earlier, and are only now on the way to becoming mainstream. Let's keep at it till the world internalizes it, then step up.

But yes, this incident is starting to look like a conspiracy. I don't think the Pak army rescuers were instructed to fire at cadets, but some shadowy organization probably did bring all the elements (recalled local cadets, soocyde jihadis) together and watched the fireworks from their bunker.
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schinnas wrote:Death of so many Balochies is a tragedy. Nobody gives a damn if some Baloch fought together with Mughals several centuries ago.
Agreed. And let's not forget the Maratha PoWs of Panipat III who were rounded up and marched on a one way trip to Baluchistan, so this is unfinished business of the 3rd Battle of Panipat. Balochis are our people. Likewise the Pathans who voted to stay with India. Treating them as equal to fair & lovelies is short-sighted.
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Yensoy ji, What is this story of Maratha PoWs taken to Balochistan after Panipat-3 ?
Any lnk or details will be appreciated.
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VikasRaina wrote:Yensoy ji, What is this story of Maratha PoWs taken to Balochistan after Panipat-3 ?
Any lnk or details will be appreciated.
This thing called google that helps memory loss at my age...

http://creative.sulekha.com/descendants ... 19236_blog
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-me ... ears-11563
Marathi link: http://www.loksatta.com/ls-diwali2015-n ... s-1197000/

Not a very shining moment in our history... taking families to a battle to facilitate a pilgrimage, while fighting original jihadis with a single minded focus on plundering the land and its people. Anyway it is what it is, and these are our people.
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Maratha PoWs taken to Balochistan after Panipat-3:
Check this:
http://www.digplanet.com/wiki/Draft:Thi ... ratha_POWs
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http://www.msn.com/en-in/news/newsindia ... spartanntp
India has sufficient material and the technical capacity to produce between 356 and 492 nuclear bombs, a research by a Pakistani think-tank has claimed.
The study titled 'Indian Unsafeguarded Nuclear Program' published by the Institute of Strategic Studies Islamabad (ISSI) is co-authored by four nuclear scholars including Adeela Azam, Ahmed Khan, Mohammad Ali and Sameer Khan.
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It's a PISS research pathetically trying to prove that India is a bigger potential proliferator than Pakistan - Nuclear Walmart of the world.
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From the land of "the absurd and bizarre" comes this gem: PCB bars players from doing push-ups after match wins
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has barred players from performing push-ups as part of their celebration after winning matches
lawmakers raised questions during a meeting of the Inter-Provincial Coordination Committee over the cricket team performing push-ups
He wondered why the players did push-ups when the team won and were silent when it lost.
it would have been better if the players offered nawafil (special prayers) instead of doing press-ups on the victory
Harami link: http://www.dawn.com/news/1292388/pcb-ba ... match-wins
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Gender gap index puts Pakistan in second-last place
Pakistan has been ranked the second-worst country in the world for gender inequality for the second consecutive year
Declared worst-performing country in South Asia; only Yemen is ranked lower
Harami link: http://www.dawn.com/news/1292347/gender ... last-place
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http://m.timesofindia.com/world/pakista ... 066174.cms

The famous Afghan Girl from National Geographic has been arrested in Pakistan for having a forged Paki ID card.
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Some Things Will NEVER Change !

Terror plan made in Delhi, PM told :lol:
Quetta - Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Tuesday chaired a high-legal emergent meeting at the Governor’s House to chalk out a new strategy to save the provincial metropolitan city, in particular, and the entire Balochistan, in general, from the onslaught of religious extremists, terrorist outfits and foreign-sponsored agents.
The meeting was informed by ISI Commander Brig Khalid Farid that the plan to attack Police Training College Hostel was made in New Delhi, handed to Afghan NDS-RAW network which assigned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi operating on Afghan soil to execute it. He was of the view that all recent terrorist attacks had links with Afghan NDS that is running training camps in Spin Boldak, located close to Chaman on Pak-Afghan border.
Omitted rest of the bakwass!
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durvasa wrote:It's a PISS research pathetically trying to prove that India is a bigger potential proliferator than Pakistan - Nuclear Walmart of the world.
World (at least those who matter on this debate) already have a fair idea of what India's capabilities are in the field. There are enough papers prepared by the noclear ayatollahs discussing Indian Pu stockpile including the reactor grade Pu. They don't need the Baki's to tell them that. My guess is that this book would be a rehash of the available research compiled and painted green with a few alarmist chapters thrown in for good measure.
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In my post at the top of the previous page, I had speculated on a few things. I said that LeJ had been used by the Pakistani Army in Balochistan to take on the Baloch nationalists, the Shi'a in general and the Hazaras in particular. I had also said that LeJ would be happy to attack the police because the Punjab police eliminated its top leadership including the male family members last year in a fake encounter.

It appears increasingly clear now, that the above two have complemented each other in the Quetta Police College attack.

The ISI can conveniently blame the attack on India in the present scheme of things prevailing in Islamabad.
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Kashi wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Above all, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi itself has a strong motive to attack the police. It was last year that the LeJ's emir Malik Ishaque was killed by the Punjab police in a fake encounter along with another LeJ co-founder Ghulam Rasool Shah. It is ironic that Quetta was where this happened.
Didn't the encounter happen in Paki Punjab, Muzaffargarh to be precise? Or did you mean the present incident?
Yes, that one happened in the Punjab. I was referring to the Police College attack. It was ironic to me because my suspicion is that this was the joint operation (or at least with a wink and a nod) of the PA & LeJ.
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TWO WHITE HOUSE PETITIONS !
pakistan[/b]-state-sponsor-terrorism-hr6069]We the People ask the Administration to declare Pakistan, State Sponsor of Terrorism (H.R.6069)Created by R.G. on September 21, 2016

665,769 signed

PETITION "CREATED" BY PAKI/ ISI LOBBY TO DO AN = = TO THE ABOVE !

Republic of India is involved in spreading terrorism in Pakistan and should be declared a terrorist state for this.
Created by S.S. on September 27, 2016

India is involved in spreading terrorism and in bloody proxy wars against it's adjoining countries particularly Islamic Republic of Pakistan, especially in the province of Balochistan, Federally Administrated Tribal Areas and Metropolitan City of Karachi. While India may remain in denial it's proxy war in Pakistan have gone out of hands. The clear evidence is available in the form of Kalboshan Yadev. Yadev in an Indian Spy working for Indian Agency 'Research and Analysis Wing' for the purpose of espionage and sabotage in Pakistan. Not only this, he is the SERVING COMMANDER OF INDIAN NAVY. He has confessed to be engaged in various terrorism activies in Balochistan including aiding TTP, Al-Qaeda and ISIS. These all evidence call for declaring India a terroist state and isolating it globally. :rotfl:
100,439 signed
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anupmisra wrote:From the land of "the absurd and bizarre" comes this gem: PCB bars players from doing push-ups after match wins
Harami link: http://www.dawn.com/news/1292388/pcb-ba ... match-wins
Comment by a momeen: Sohil khan did his push ups then totally became stiff an unfit in second innings
Updating my own post. This is now beyond weird.

No ban on push ups, says Najam Sethi
Rejecting the reports that cricket authorities have barred the players from celebrating win with push-ups, Chairman of Pakistan Cricket Board's Executive Committee Najam Sethi on Wednesday said the cricketers should instead celebrate their tons with 100 push ups
Haramier link: https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/16007 ... sy-hit-PCB
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SSridhar wrote:
Kashi wrote:
Didn't the encounter happen in Paki Punjab, Muzaffargarh to be precise? Or did you mean the present incident?
Yes, that one happened in the Punjab. I was referring to the Police College attack. It was ironic to me because my suspicion is that this was the joint operation (or at least with a wink and a nod) of the PA & LeJ.
Sridhar what does the Pakistan army gain out of this attack? They are scaring away the police who were a convenient whipping boy who could be blamed for failures while the Paki army did not have to do anything about jihadis groups
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My problem with Burka Bibi's WP sly drivel is that she is peddling the Congoon theory, albeit with some sugar coating, that other than public acknowledgment, the recent surgical strikes are nothing new.
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Pakistan summons Indian envoy over 'ceasefire violations'
ISLAMABAD: For the second day in a row, Pakistan on Wednesday summoned India's deputy high commissioner and lodged a strong protest over alleged "unprovoked firing" by Indian forces along the working boundary and the Line of Control.

It was second day in succession that Indian envoy J P Singh was summoned by the Foreign Office over violation of ceasefire.

"The Indian deputy high commissioner was summoned by the director general (South Asia & SAARC) today. A strong protest was lodged against the unprovoked ceasefire violations," the Foreign Office said in a statement.

The protest was lodged over violation of ceasefire agreement at the working boundary in Chaprar and Harpal sectors and on the LoC in Bhimber sector on 25-26 October, the statement said.

Pakistan said that two civilians were killed and nine others injured in the firing.

"It was conveyed to the Indian side that it should investigate the incident and share the findings with Pakistan, instruct its troops to respect the ceasefire, in letter and spirit, refrain from intentionally targeting the villages and maintain peace on the working boundary and the LoC," FO said.

India had on Tuesday said Pakistan army violated the ceasefire by targeting Indian Army positions with mortar and small arms fire in Noushera sector of Rajouri district, prompting the Army to give a "befitting response".

There have been over 40 ceasefire violations from the Pakistani side since the Indian side carried out surgical strikes inside Pakistan occupied Kashmir targeting terror launching pads, post the attack on an Army camp in Uri on September 18.
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Shiv, Way I look at is
- police cadets were Baluchi who had completed the training and brought back.
- FC is in charge of L&O there.
- Attackers made thru a number of cordons

All above shows some deep planner brought attackers and victims together.

- By enabling this attack, Pak Army gets to claim sympathy wave with US for being under attack
- Gets rid of future leadership of Baluchistan police forces. They already got rid a few lawyers.
- This smacks of Bangladesh playbook where the Pak Army killed many future leaders of Bangladesh in 1971.
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I do not recall this calling the envoy business by Pakis before Modi. Most often they used to claim India started unprovoked firing and they gave a befitting response to shut the Indian guns. Obviously it is hurting them bad.
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At 14, ISI want JUD,LET to become part of Regular forces .

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RAW, NDS patronising terror groups in Afghanistan, national security adviser tells US envoy

And on top of this, a (White House ) petition has been "initiated" by the ISI/ Paki Diaspora Lobby in DC asking the US Govt to name India as a "Terror Sponsor " . IOW, they want Massa to solve the the problems of "snakes in their back yard " :lol:
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CRamS wrote:My problem with Burka Bibi's WP sly drivel is that she is peddling the Congoon theory, albeit with some sugar coating, that other than public acknowledgment, the recent surgical strikes are nothing new.
It is still a step up and some positive change from the usual articles by the likes of Pankaj Mishra and Arundhati Roy.
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Sharif - Immy Battle Heats Up !

Shehbaz Sharif announces Rs26bn defamation lawsuit against Imran Khan
LAHORE – The Punjab Chief Minister Shehbaz Sharif said he would file a Rs26 billion defamation lawsuit against Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan for baseless allegations against him.Chief Minister (CM) was reacting to allegations of kickbacks and massive corruption worth Rs26 billion by PTI chairman on Wednesday.The CM was speaking at a press conference in the provincial capital, Geo News reported.
Strange that both amounts are the same :roll:
Imran Khan had alleged that rulers of the country were involved in corruption through their frontman, Javed Sadiq.The PTI chief said Sadiq was Shehbaz Sharif’s frontman and had received Rs 15 billion in commission to date. He also released pictures of Sadiq.
Kaptaan Khan is"negligent " in NOT naming Ishaq Dar, Finance Minister of Pakiland and close confidente (and relative ) of Ganja Sharif as the "second" frontman !
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"Deep State " Cash Crunch ?

ISI’s secret stash of cars up for sale
RAWALPINDI – In an incredible offer, Inter-services Intelligence’s (ISI) have showcased their secret stash of dozens of cars for auction.
The extraordinary and exclusive sale offers a huge variety of car brands, including Cultus, Honda City, Corolla, Toyota Crown, Bolan, etc.
“The auction has been stationed at Golra Depot and will end on 27th of October,” a source in agency confirmed to Daily Pakistan.
Here are the pictures of cars exhibited for sale:
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Falijee wrote:"Deep State " Cash Crunch ?

ISI’s secret stash of cars up for sale
RAWALPINDI – In an incredible offer, Inter-services Intelligence’s (ISI) have showcased their secret stash of dozens of cars for auction.
The extraordinary and exclusive sale offers a huge variety of car brands, including Cultus, Honda City, Corolla, Toyota Crown, Bolan, etc.
“The auction has been stationed at Golra Depot and will end on 27th of October,” a source in agency confirmed to Daily Pakistan.
Here are the pictures of cars exhibited for sale:

WTH is a Cultus? Or a Bolan?

Something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07vdtBMG4Kg
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"“I’m scared,” Mr. Shukla said. “We’re not Israel bullying Gaza, or the U.S. with Haiti. We’re the fourth-biggest army confronting the 11th-biggest army.” - Ajai Shukla.

:roll: :roll:
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Just think this coward was in IA? Did they kick him out?
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Why is he so scared? After all, according to him, the Surgical Strikes of 28/9/16 never occurred... right?
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It's a plaintive howl from him and his paki accolytes: "India didn't do it and please India don't do it again."
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yensoy wrote:
Dinesh S wrote: Isn't it sad that sons of Chanakya and Krishna are debating about stooping low when dealing with an abomination like pakistan? Would mahabharata been won if Lord Krishna had played by morals and ethics?

Indians seriously need to get over themselves and get down from this pathetic high horse. Its not going to help us in anyway. Have you even seen any mainstream westerner, let alone a jingo, accept how barbaric their acts are in the world even today?
Read your Mahabharata again. This is not the "ashwathhama hatha kunjaraha" moment. There will be a place and time this has to happen (as it did with Mukti Bahini - one decisive blow - ek maar do tukda).

We don't need to bend the rules now, and we can stay on our high horse. In fact, if we start propagating conspiracy theories we will lose the audience, because any audience can only be educated or influenced at the rate of its maturity and what it is willing to accept. This is like teaching calculus to second standard kids, won't get us anywhere.

Messages like Omar Abdullah & Dr Sub Swamy's beautifully captured on youtube would have been considered "one point of view" earlier, and are only now on the way to becoming mainstream. Let's keep at it till the world internalizes it, then step up.

But yes, this incident is starting to look like a conspiracy. I don't think the Pak army rescuers were instructed to fire at cadets, but some shadowy organization probably did bring all the elements (recalled local cadets, soocyde jihadis) together and watched the fireworks from their bunker.
Sir, if anything it makes your original position hypocritical. If your original position that we should give a damn about balochis is from a moral position, my position would be the same. But if you think we have more to gain by shedding crocodile tears for balochis now, then may be you may have a point.

But I don't agree with the notion that we need to take a actual high horse for pontification. All it needs is proper narrative. Pakistan until very recently was still on the moral high horse in international fora on Kashmir despite its perfidy in kashmir and jihad. India had jackshit despite constitution/democracy/secularism whatever. All that matters is narrative, not moral high ground/horse.
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saip wrote:I do not recall this calling the envoy business by Pakis before Modi. Most often they used to claim India started unprovoked firing and they gave a befitting response to shut the Indian guns. Obviously it is hurting them bad.
That would be my inference too.
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vijayk wrote:As expected, India's radical hate mongering neo-left and Brown sepoys are all in rage over this.

2 days back NYT

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/24/world ... istan.html
Greta Ananad
Now, with his tough stance, there are growing concerns that Mr. Modi may have narrowed his options, raising the risks of war with India’s nuclear-armed rival, Pakistan.

Experts are worrying about what India will do when Pakistan-based militants carry out another attack in India, as is almost certain. And how will Pakistan respond?

“We’re not at the point of no return, but we are in very dangerous waters,” said Bruce Riedel, a fellow at the Brookings Institution who served in the Central Intelligence Agency, where he advised several American presidents on South Asia.

“When we get to the next terror attack, which is probably only a matter of time, the prime minister has boxed himself in, and he can’t take the route his predecessors did and choose to use solely diplomatic alternatives without some loss of face,” Mr. Riedel said.
That frenzy, stoked by the Indian news media, “is in danger of pushing India into conflict,” said Myra MacDonald, the author of “Defeat Is an Orphan: How Pakistan Lost the Great South Asian War.”

“The Pakistani military would be forced to retaliate in the event of a more prominent strike,” in part to guard its image as the ever-vigilant protector of Pakistan, he said. And there is no predicting where such a conflict could lead, the experts say.

“The big danger here is once you get started up the escalation ladder, how do you cool it off?” Mr. Riedel said.

“I’m scared,” Mr. Shukla said. “We’re not Israel bullying Gaza, or the U.S. with Haiti. We’re the fourth-biggest army confronting the 11th-biggest army.”
Modi ji has not narrowed down his options, he has broadened them. While earlier, there was only the diplomatic option that was exercised, now, there is an entire gamut of options from needling on water, on Baloch, FATA region, PoK itself, border firing, trade, culture, cricket and ofcourse our hard working diplomats. To claim that he has actually narrowed his options is simply put, in the category of the 'Big lie'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

Modi ji has also made it more difficult for the Pakis to calculate the cost of their misadventures.

Lastly, he has laid down the new Modi Doctrine:
a. Do not sponsor terror attacks in India, or be prepared to pay by the lives of your army men. Internal counter attacks may also be there.
b. If an attack happens without your permission, be prepared for actual cooperation if you want to avoid the usual hammering.

My only quibble is that the response including the Uri response, can still be considered a 'proportional response' or a minimal response. But the noise around it makes clear that this can and will be escalated to disproportional.
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Karachi's 1000 Year Old Hindu Temple Now Being Used As A Public Toilet :x

Karachi, Pakistan,1000 Years Old Varun Dev Mandir
Varun Dev Mandir in Manora Island Beach, Karachi, Pakistan is estimated to be 1000 years old, used as public toilet. Now repaired with USA ambassador funds for cultural preservation.
Exact date and year of first construction is not known as much history and inscriptions of Hindu temples in Pakistan have been destroyed.
After many years, Varun Dev Mandir’s repair work has started and money for restoring it is being provided by the US Ambassador’s Fund :!: for Cultural Preservation.
As a famous Nobel Laurette author has stated in his seminal books on Islamic civilizations, nothing is sacred or worth preserving in Islamic lands, if it does not pertain to Arabian conquerors or "Arabian sands". So much so for hollow assurances by Paki politicians now and then for "protecting" minorities and their places of worship !
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sudeepj wrote:Modi ji has not narrowed down his options, he has broadened them.
I think what the NYT Brown sepoy meant was that PM has narrowed down their options, inversely proportional to widening our options.
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Prem wrote:At 14, ISI want JUD,LET to become part of Regular forces .

This quote explains the idea
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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ramana wrote:Shiv, Way I look at is
- police cadets were Baluchi who had completed the training and brought back.
- FC is in charge of L&O there.
- Attackers made thru a number of cordons

All above shows some deep planner brought attackers and victims together.

- By enabling this attack, Pak Army gets to claim sympathy wave with US for being under attack
- Gets rid of future leadership of Baluchistan police forces. They already got rid a few lawyers.
- This smacks of Bangladesh playbook where the Pak Army killed many future leaders of Bangladesh in 1971.
Ramana - what you say sounds plausible, but it assumes that the Paki army is one cohesive unit that is united in its purpose and is totally on board with concepts like allowing third party jihadis to kill Baluchis.

Two problems I have with this explanation is that firstly this is going to fool no one. Baluchis are not going to get fooled and keep off army targets

Secondly, and more problematic for the Pakistan army (as per my current reading of Khaled Ahmed's book) is as follows. A large part of the Pakistani army cadre are sympathizers or actual followers of the doctrine of many jihadi groups. And these Paki army men may be loyal to the ant-India "fight for Kashmir" cause - but they do see parts of their army, their officers etc as sympathetic to the US and not fully supportive of sharia. The civilian government is seen a pro-India. The police are an arm of civil government. So when the Pakistan army allows law and order in Baluchistan to be controlled by police they are simply shirking their responsibility because they don't want to involve the army directly as far as possible and blame lapses on the police. If the army had to get involved it would mean more trouble for them down the line including revolts within their ranks.

It turns out that this goes back a long time. Musharraf did not want to take action against Lal Masjid despite threats to his own life by jihadis. Ultimately Chinese pressure did the trick.

Gen Assphuck Kiyani refused to take action against jihadis despite the complete loss of control of Waziristan for the same reasons. Despite Nawaz Sharif being atatcked by Lashkar e Jhangvi he simply has to tolerate and accommodate them. Gel Raheel Sharif is so admired by Paki "moderates" because of his "Zarb e Azb" which brought some semblance of control - but it can go only so far. Even Raheel Sharif cannot act against Pakjabi jihadis like JuD and LeJ.

The attack on a police academy will only intimidate the police and help "pure Islam" in the area/Pure Islam is OK for Baluchis as long as they help in defeating the army and state. To me there is no indication that the academy was full of Shias who the LeJ hates. If pure Islam starts spreading back towards Pakjab - the "gains" of zarb e Azb will be reversed. And Raheel Sharif is due to retire soon

In 10 years I predict that a jihadi general will have his finger on Pakistan's nuclear trigger. I hope that general likes the US and Europe as much as he might love India
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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"..This quote explains the idea
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That's National Service, vis-a-vis, Singapore, Israel, etc.
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