Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 27 Oct 2016 16:52

Sachin, thanks for reminding all about Infantry Day.

A salute to the infantry - If 1st Sikh had not landed in Srinagar airfield we would have lost the valley. 13 Kumaon C Coy at Rezangla, 13 Sikh LI at Jaffna University, 2 Raj Rif at Tololing Top, 3 Jat at Dograi and Para SF at LC in 2016 - just a very few examples of both defensive and offensive actions fought by the Indian Infantry - the best in the world. I have great regard for the infantry. Even a cavalryman Gen BC Joshi after commanding an Inf Div was so impressed that he always wanted to improve the lot of the infantry man.

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 27 Oct 2016 16:54

Today, please recall some interesting stories of the Dogras from your long heritage.

ks_sachin · Post by **ks_sachin** » 27 Oct 2016 17:14

Akshay Kapoor wrote:Today, please recall some interesting stories of the Dogras from your long heritage.

Most splendid soldiers.....but I cannot now only talk Dogras as intimate connections with 4 inf regiments..however Dogras longest served. 2 Generations of Command of a bn.

I was going to say divided loyalties but Dogras - the men and YO's inspirational...

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 27 Oct 2016 17:20

even better tell stories of 4 regts....which ones and what is the connection

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 27 Oct 2016 17:47

Another flash-point with respect to civilian and military equation in MOD:

http://m.thehindu.com/news/national/mod ... 272142.ece

Posting in full:

The Army’s top brass is upset with the Ministry of Defence’s (MoD) move to create two senior civilian positions to look after engineering projects in army commands responsible for both Pakistan and China borders.

Army sources said the decision was taken by the MoD unilaterally without taking the Army leadership into confidence. Ministry sources said they were going ahead with implementation of the decision.

The MoD recently issued orders, with Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar’s approval, to create the new posts of Additional Director General (ADG) for both Udhampur-based Northern Command and Kolkata-based Eastern Command. Most engineering projects in the two commands would now be administered by the newly appointed ADGs, whose offices are not to be based in command headquarters but in Jammu and Guwahati.

As a consequence, Command Chief Engineers, who now look after all engineering and construction projects, will be merely responsible for engineering regiments. Key projects such as construction of forward military bases, facilities for the new Strike Corps against China, and modernisation of Advanced Landing Grounds along the China border will come under the civilian officer, because Military Engineering Service (MES) offices and Chief Construction Engineers (CCE) will report to the civilian ADG.

A senior Army officer called it a disruption of the military’s functioning and said the Army leadership had made a representation to the Ministry, following which a temporary hold was put on the orders.

When contacted, a senior Defence Ministry official said, “The decision was taken at the level of the Defence Minister and so all concerned would have been taken on board.” He said there was no hold on the orders issued.

In an October 13 order, MoD Under Secretary Anurag Sharma wrote to the Engineer-in-Chief of the military, “The competent authority has decided to create a post of ADG (North) by suppressing the post of ADG (D&C) Pune with headquarters at Jammu to look after the work services and infrastructure projects pertaining to Army and Air Force in the geographical jurisdiction of Northern Command (Army).” The newly created ADG (North) will be “responsible for overall monitoring and supervision of all MES works in the Northern Sector under all Chief Engineers Zones (Army and Air Force) and CCE of Northern Command.”

The order also said the newly created ADG (North) will directly report to the Engineer-in-Chief, and not to the Command Chief Engineer. “This issues with the approval of the Hon’ble Raksha Mantri,” the order said.

A similar order was issued on October 17 for the Eastern Army Command.

‘Not consulted’

“None of the stakeholders were taken into confidence, neither the Engineer-in-Chief, nor the chiefs of the three services, nor the Army commanders,” a senior Army officer said.

He pointed out that there was a “great deal” of coordination between the MES and Corps of Engineers in the command areas in executing strategic projects. “Now that they are splitting the command authority, it could lead to serious coordination issues and ego clashes,” he explained.

Several projects are taken up by Engineering Regiments and MES border jointly, including putting up operation shelters.

For years now, other tensions have simmered. Civilians get promoted to only staff appointments beyond the rank of Zonal Chief Engineers. And they have regularly petitioned the government about ‘discrimination’. The new ADG posts might have been devised to address the issue.

Tensions between civilians and military engineers increased after the 6th Pay Commission recommendations were implemented in 2008. Junior civilian officers got better perks, such as business class tickets and better pay bands, than military officers senior to them.

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 27 Oct 2016 17:53

Wow !!!! this is huge....didnt think things could become this bad. I would resign if I were the COAS.

Suresh S · Post by **Suresh S** » 27 Oct 2016 18:12

Time today to also remember "Major Somnath Sharma" but for his and men under him and their brave actions Kashmir would have been lost. First recipient of the Param vir Chakra. Died in the battle of Badgam 3rd november 1947.May your soul rest in peace and may you inspire this and the future generations of Indians. His body was identified by the few pages of Bhagwad Gita in his pocket

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 27 Oct 2016 19:31

Thank you for remembering snahata saab. I completely forgot. the first Kashmir war started is now 69 years old, but it is the most important war of all. Thanks to Major Somnath Sharma - brother of V N Sharma, future COAS - and the other men who fought and laid down lives for India, for it is because of them the Kashmir Valley is still with India. A heartfelt salute to this brave son of our motherland!

When we started Bharat Rakshak 20+ years ago, the Amar Jawan was one of the first sub-sections to start. I still remember reading his biography. Gives you goosebumps. His last words were, "The enemy are only 50 yards from us. We are heavily outnumbered. We are under devastating fire. I shall not withdraw an inch but will fight to our last man and our last round."

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/ARMY/pers ... harma.html

The man truly embodied these words from the Bhagavad Gita...

hato va prapsyasi svargam
jitva va bhoksyase mahim
tasmad uttistha kaunteya
yuddhaya krta-niscayah

O son of Kuntī, either you will be killed on the battlefield
and attain the heavenly planets, or you will conquer and
enjoy the earthly kingdom. Therefore get up and fight
with determination.

JAI HIND SIR!!

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 27 Oct 2016 19:58

snahata wrote: His body was identified by the few pages of Bhagwad Gita in his pocket

I was not aware of this. Thank you for pointing this out. I met Gen VN Sharma as a schoolboy. He had come to dedicate a memorial to Maj Somnath Sharma at my school. All three brothers are from my school - Maj Somnath Sharma , Lt Gen SN Sharma (ENC) and Gen VN Sharma (COAS) the youngest. Lt Gen SN Sharma's son joined the Armoured Corps and goes by the name of Gautam Shaunik. He took premature retirement as a Col as he could not make ends meet for his children. Please read his son's blog - Col Shaunik's wife also comes from a very fauji family. Do read the blog - its a gold mine.http://general-salute.blogspot.co.uk/

Suresh S · Post by **Suresh S** » 27 Oct 2016 20:05

tx akshay. I have relived this battle in my mind and imagined the brave major putting clothes as beacon to guide our aircrafts to land on srinagar airport under direct enemy fire from close quarters and saved kashmir and with that our motherland. This was our battle of thermophile and changed our history. But sadly few people remember. I firmly believe as general Bakshi says we will not progress and get to where we want to go unless we know where we came from.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 27 Oct 2016 20:09

Akshay: Thanks for posting that blog. Amazing. For historical buffs, that is indeed a gold mline.

Jagan: Do visit if you already have not.

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 27 Oct 2016 20:31

Rakesh, Jagan and all who started BR. On Inf Day a big thanks. May it go from strength to strength ever illuminating the way for the future by shining a light on the past.

malushahi · Post by **malushahi** » 27 Oct 2016 21:36

Akshay Kapoor wrote:
snahata wrote: His body was identified by the few pages of Bhagwad Gita in his pocket
I was not aware of this. Thank you for pointing this out. I met Gen VN Sharma as a schoolboy. He had come to dedicate a memorial to Maj Somnath Sharma at my school. All three brothers are from my school - Maj Somnath Sharma , Lt Gen SN Sharma (ENC) and Gen VN Sharma (COAS) the youngest. Lt Gen SN Sharma's son joined the Armoured Corps and goes by the name of Gautam Shaunik. He took premature retirement as a Col as he could not make ends meet for his children. Please read his son's blog - Col Shaunik's wife also comes from a very fauji family. Do read the blog - its a gold mine.http://general-salute.blogspot.co.uk/

OT: are you referring to their school in grades 6-12 with a sam bahadur connection?

trying to figure your school out.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 27 Oct 2016 21:38

We need to figure out a way to keep their legacy alive. Movies, documentaries etc.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 27 Oct 2016 21:39

Rakesh wrote:hato va prapsyasi svargam
jitva va bhoksyase mahim
tasmad uttistha kaunteya
yuddhaya krta-niscayah

O son of Kuntī, either you will be killed on the battlefield
and attain the heavenly planets, or you will conquer and
enjoy the earthly kingdom. Therefore get up and fight
with determination.

Never knew we had this concept.

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 27 Oct 2016 21:46

malushahi wrote:
Akshay Kapoor wrote:
I was not aware of this. Thank you for pointing this out. I met Gen VN Sharma as a schoolboy. He had come to dedicate a memorial to Maj Somnath Sharma at my school. All three brothers are from my school - Maj Somnath Sharma , Lt Gen SN Sharma (ENC) and Gen VN Sharma (COAS) the youngest. Lt Gen SN Sharma's son joined the Armoured Corps and goes by the name of Gautam Shaunik. He took premature retirement as a Col as he could not make ends meet for his children. Please read his son's blog - Col Shaunik's wife also comes from a very fauji family. Do read the blog - its a gold mine.http://general-salute.blogspot.co.uk/
OT: are you referring to their school in grades 6-12 with a sam bahadur connection?

trying to figure your school out.

You are on target sir.

vaibhav.n · Post by **vaibhav.n** » 27 Oct 2016 21:47

Akshay Saab,

You are a Rimcollian?

All the brothers were at Sherwood and then RIMC iirc.

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 27 Oct 2016 21:48

Karthik S wrote:We need to figure out a way to keep their legacy alive. Movies, documentaries etc.

happy to contribute to this - monetarily and otherwise. Need a band of dedicated brothers and sisters.

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 27 Oct 2016 21:50

vaibhav.n wrote:Akshak Saab,

You are a Rimcollian?

Nope Vaibhav. A school in the Kumaon hills (last years)

malushahi · Post by **malushahi** » 27 Oct 2016 21:51

Akshay Kapoor wrote:
malushahi wrote:
OT: are you referring to their school in grades 6-12 with a sam bahadur connection?

trying to figure your school out.
You are on target sir.

very, very cool

we need to exchange a lot of notes.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 27 Oct 2016 21:56

Kartik: The Gita is replete with epic stories of bravery and determination. The 21 Param Vir Chakra winners - and others - all embodied that.

I remember reading one story of an Indian soldier in World War 2 in Burma I believe. His legs were shot and useless, but he dragged himself from post to post motivating his men to continue fighting. When he was asked to evacuate, his last words were, "Don't worry, I will be fine." That one brought me to tears. These men do not talk about bravery, they lived it. If someone knows who this is, please provide the link.

As Nana Patekar said recently inke samne, hum sab katmal hai.

FOUND HIM!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prakash_Singh_Chib

asinh · Post by **asinh** » 27 Oct 2016 21:57

India Today says intense firing by the Porkies.

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 27 Oct 2016 21:59

okay sir, give me your email. Back to the Inf Day, I would suggest members share anecdotes about troops from different regts. I have a story from the Assam Regt which I posted along time ago.

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 27 Oct 2016 22:00

Karthik S wrote:
Rakesh wrote:hato va prapsyasi svargam
jitva va bhoksyase mahim
tasmad uttistha kaunteya
yuddhaya krta-niscayah

O son of Kuntī, either you will be killed on the battlefield
and attain the heavenly planets, or you will conquer and
enjoy the earthly kingdom. Therefore get up and fight
with determination.

Never knew we had this concept.

This is the essence of the Gita Kartik. Its a book written on the battlefield. My favourite shlok. Chanakya said ages later 'Utthista Bhartha'...rise o Bharat.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 27 Oct 2016 22:12

This one stands out for CLASS! I remember reading this story many moons ago. Very few - if any - of our politicians will do this today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umrao_Singh

I had gone to UK in 1995 as Deputy Leader of the Indian Delegation to take part in the 50th Anniversary celebrations of the victory in Europe during the Second World War. I, along with four other Army officers, had just stepped out after attending the inaugural session and were waiting on the roadside for the traffic to ease so as to walk across the road to the vehicle park. Among those with me was Honorary Captain Umrao Singh, a Victoria Cross winner. All of a sudden, a car moving on the road came to a halt in front of us and a well-dressed gentleman stepped out. He approached Umrao Singh and said, "Sir, may I have the privilege of shaking hands with the Victoria Cross (winner)?" He shook hands with him. Evidently he had spotted Umrao Singh's medal from his car and had stopped his car to pay his respect to a winner of the highest gallantry medal of his country. Then he looked at me and said, "General, you are from the Indian Army." When I replied in the affirmative, he gave out his name, saying that he was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Heseltine. I was absolutely astounded, as the recognition dawned on me that he was the Deputy Prime Minister of [the] UK. I was totally overawed by such courtesy shown by a dignitary of the second highest status in the British Government, and humbly thanked him for having invited our delegation for the VE-Day function. Again, his reply was typical of his sagacity, "General, it is we, the British, who should be grateful to your country and your Armed Forces, who had helped us win both the First and the Second world wars. How can we be ever so ungrateful to forget your country's great contribution?" Suddenly I became conscious that all the traffic behind his car had come to stand still. I hurried to thank him and politely requested him to move along to relieve the traffic hold-up. He stated, "Sir, how dare I drive off when [the] Victoria Cross has to cross the road." Realizing his genuine feeling I and my colleagues quickly crossed the road. Reaching the other side I looked back and saw that Mr. Heseltine was still standing, waiting for the Victoria Cross to be safely across.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 27 Oct 2016 22:20

Rakesh wrote:This one stands out for CLASS! I remember reading this story many moons ago. Very few - if any - of our politicians will do this today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umrao_Singh

I read similar story about Second Lt Khetarpal. Gesture was shown by a Pakistani officer.

"The only occasion when a breakthrough could have occurred was when two squadrons of 13 Lancers attacked together in the afternoon, but a gallant last ditch lone stand by 2/Lt Arun Khetarpal of Poona Horse averted the danger." Maj. A. H. Amin (Retd.) ( Pakistan Armour Corps - Columnist and Historian) . The Commander of the Pakistan tank battalion is said to have met the Indian battalion commander after the battle and made enquiries about 2nd Lieutenant Khetarpal's tank since he was very impressed with the gallantry of this particular tank's commander.

In 2001, Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal - now 81 years old - felt a strong desire to visit his birthplace at Sargodha, now in Pakistan. At Lahore airport, Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal was met by Brigadier Khawja Mohammad Naser, who took it upon himself to be Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal host and guide. Brigadier Naser really went out of way to ensure that Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal had a satisfying and nostalgic visit to his old house in Sargodha. Upon his return to Lahore he was once again the guest of Brigadier Naser for three days.

Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal was overwhelmed by the extreme kindness, deference, courtesy and respect bestowed upon him by Brigadier Naser and by all the members of his family and his many servants. However Brigadier Khetarpal felt that something was amiss but could not make out what it was. Was it the long silences that punctuated their animated conversation or was it the look of compassion in the eyes of the women in the family? He could not make out but was sure he was being treated as someone very special.

Finally, on the last night before Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal's departure, Brigadier Naser said 'Sir, there is something that I wanted to tell you for many years but I did not know how to get through to you. Finally, fate has intervened and sent you to me as an honoured guest. The last few days we have become close to one another and that has made my task even more difficult. It is regarding your son who is, of course, a national hero in India. However, on that fateful day, your son and I were soldiers, unknown to one another, fighting for the respect and safety of our respective countries. I regret to tell you that your son died in my hands. Arun's courage was exemplary and he moved his tank with fearless courage and daring, totally unconcerned about his safety. Tank casualties were very high till finally there were just two of us left facing one another. We both fired simultaneously. It was destined that I was to live and he was to die.

It was only later that I got to know how young he was and who he was.I had all along thought that I would ask your forgiveness, but in telling the story I realize that there is nothing to forgive. Instead I salute your son for what he did at such a young age and I salute you too, because I know how he grew into such a young man. In the end it is character and values that matter."

Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal was silent as he did not know how to react.To be enjoying the hospitality of the person who had killed his son was a confusing feeling. However being a soldier himself he genuinely admired the chivalry of an officer whose complete squadron was decimated by his son.

Both the Brigadiers retired for the night deep in thought. There are never any victors in war; both sides lose and it is the families that have to pay the price and suffer the most. As someone once said 'Wars are created by politicians, compounded by bureaucrats and fought by soldiers.'

The next day photographs were taken and Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal returned to Delhi. Later the photos reached Delhi along with a note from Brigadier Naser that said:

"With Warmest regards and utmost sincerity, To: Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal, father of Shaheed Second Lieutenant Arun Khetarpal, PVC, who stood like an unsurmountable rock, between the victory and failure, of the counterattack by the 'SPEARHEADS' 13 LANCERS on 16 December 1971 in the battle of "Bara Pind' as we call it and battle of "Basantar" as 17 Poona Horse remembers. --Khawja Mohammad Naser, 13 Lancers, 2 March 2001, Lahore, Pakistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arun_Khetarpal

VKumar · Post by **VKumar** » 27 Oct 2016 22:29

Breaking news! Shiv Aroor tweets that Pak army heavily attacking two posts on LOC. Heavy and targetted shelling.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 27 Oct 2016 23:36

^^^ the only reply to this that the paki would understand is if the offending weapons and firebases are destroyed.
nothing less would do.

sorry, but I got to re-post this
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Rahul M wrote:........

we cannot talk of covert options sensibly, so what overt option do we have ? option that checks 3 boxes, viz. inflicts punishment on pak deep state, deters infiltration directly & indirectly, doesn't bring the issue to nukes.
one 'active defence' policy option might look like this :- instead of piling even more defensive installations like fences and sensors, declare a belt of 5 km (say) inside pak/PoK from the IB/LoC as no-go area for pak, military or otherwise. both as a punitive measure for not stopping cross border terrorism and also to ensure future attacks become difficult.

any pak installation /force that comes within that "peace zone" would be fair target for Indian military. enforce the "peace zone" with artillery, UAV overflights to keep an eye on violations and air cover to be prepared for any eventuality. utilize all serviceable reserve arty & shells for this purpose. simply put, no TSPA/Jehadi should stay be left alive & well in that zone. sanction additional fund for this policy if needed. that cost would be amortized by lower requirements policing internal areas. in any case, it would be a cost worth paying in lives that are not lost to the subhumans.

if we limit the policy to J&K, pak wont dare to respond with big conventional force for that would quickly escalate this into a multi theater full blown war which they would definitely lose. their only options would be to a) either stop attacks in the near term and hope this policy blows over in the long term or b) continue as before with infiltration attempts but these would be much more difficult under an active peace zone policy.

either way, advantage us.

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 27 Oct 2016 23:40

Rahul M

+ Million.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 28 Oct 2016 00:21

nice to have you agree Saarji.

Vivek K · Post by **Vivek K** » 28 Oct 2016 00:36

Rahul, couldn't agree with you more!

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 28 Oct 2016 01:34

Rahul sirji,

Its our best option. Its clear, unambiguous, gives us the initiative but allows us to say that we are not being aggressive, gives us tactical flexibility and above all makes a big dent on our proximate problem...infiltration. If we stem this then it creates space for us to calm the valley down. Long run if properly implemented it will have big strategic benefits too.

In terms of implementation, I think it will take a quantum jump in surveillance capability...firepower will also need to be augmented - both guns and ammunition. IAF will have to play a big role both for surviellance and for fire support from choppers, fighters will have to be on standby too..Deejay's inputs would be very valuable. We can announce the intention right away after some mobilization - lets move arty from the strike corps to start with. Maybe some of the 3 arty div assets also. We have to be prepared for counter battery fire. How many WLR do we have ? Rohit Vats arty have a lot of SATA assets right ? They can be used. Navy and IAF UAVs can also be pressed in while we order more through fast track channels.

Intent and even 50% success in implementation will be a game changer.

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 28 Oct 2016 01:38

Rohit Vats sirji...can you make a fire plan for this ? It would be very interesting to see.

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 28 Oct 2016 04:22

Kapoor saab, is this realistically possible to implement without our artillery acquisitions having progressed to significant extent. I mean at least half the M777's inducted along with at least 50-100 Dhanush guns. Plus more Pinaka regiments. Otherwise our artillery situation hasn't improved at all since Kargil when we had to denude every other sector of Bofors guns in order to deploy them on the LoC. What Rahul is suggesting will require high concentrations all along the LoC and the IB in Kashmir. Where will the guns come from?

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 28 Oct 2016 08:44

nachhiket, while dhanush & other howitzers would be ideal, 5-7 km is well within 120mm mortar range. we also have not an insignificant number of older guns in reserve (as conveyed to me by an arty officer).

more than anything else, I would like to see counter battery fire against paki arty. for that we would require UAV's/WLR's & MBRLS like BM-21 grads or may be Pinaka. if there's a shortage of these items there, we can always transfer them from another sector temporarily. it wont be the first time.
we have, many times transferred weapons to J&K even from eastern sector.

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 28 Oct 2016 12:04

Yes 5-7 km is within 120 mm mortar range. I think we have about 20-25 regts of these, maybe 10 already in Northern Command, perhaps move another 10 up. The main part is to target PAK army installations - that will invite counter fire and that's why lots more guns will be needed which can brought up from the strike corps and reserves of the holding Corps. And then as Rahul says we have some old guns in storage. Of course the arty lack problem stays acute and needs to be resolved but this plan should be implemenatble in the short tern. Just need politcal will and innovative tactical thinking.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 28 Oct 2016 12:49

What about ammunition ? Such an operation will burn through the stock in a less than 2 weeks. Do we have enough ?

rkhanna · Post by **rkhanna** » 28 Oct 2016 13:49

Just got a news flash: BSF responds. Supposedly 15 PA Soldiers have been killed.

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 28 Oct 2016 15:19

It's clear now that GoI has decided that the Surgical slaps that were delivered are not to be one off actions. GoI seems to have no interest in mutual de-escalation or any similar horse manure.. Massive retaliations and cross border strikes are going to be the new norm.

If IA and BSF keep up with the disproportionate retaliations, a sterile buffer zone will be automatically created.. a zone where every uniformed and un-uniformed pig will be exterminated with extreme prejudice (as many posters here wished for)

This also means there will be less chances for the pindi brown pants to save face by claiming some victory here or there, the jeehardi pigs must be straining and chewing off whatever leash the PA has around their necks... Might lead to some 'strategically brilliant' moves soon.. Need to watch our backs elsewhere in the country..

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 28 Oct 2016 15:52

This may be a low-intensity war which we can fight in the paki side of the LOC on regular basis. The so-called seize fire is no longer is there and IA &BSF will it pakis on regular basis.