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devesh wrote:I think this is Putin's way of signaling his displeasure about LEMOA and any other future military contracts with USA.

Modi's bonhomie with USA/Obama is more than just tactical. if we're signing permanent military/logistics agreements with USA, I think Russia sees that as a reorientation of India into USA's camp.

Given India's place on the map, I think this is a strategic blunder. But what do I know...I'm just a naysayer. Since Modi is doing it, surely it must be pro-India. Nevermind that a similar move by UPA/Sonia would be seen as nothing less than outright treachery.
LEMOA is just too watered down to be even useful for any future joint military operation and for most part LEMOA wont be used at all.

Indian Political and Bureacautic system has enough checks and balances that will make sure we dont end up with Overt or Covert tilt with any country including US , We will just have transactional relationship if it benefits both

I think Russia would only worry if India joins a Legally Binding Security Organisation like NATO where every member nation is legally and politically Obliged to help each other or for that matter its Russian counterpart like CSTO

Other than these types of treaty all the others dont have a teeth to bite and their implimentation can change depending on political flavour of the season.

India joining SCO is a good indication where we are going ahead and has far greater political and military implication in years ahead , for India then some paper deal like LEMOA types.
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Philip wrote:A gentle reminder from Russia,which states that" it is willing to go (for India),where no nation has gone before!"

http://www.defencenews.in/article/We-ar ... _::_RUSSIA
We are an Ally who stood by India in its darkest hours :: RUSSIA
By: Indian Express
Reading the history of the last 300 years Russia is preventing any other power from using India to control the Eurasian land mass

By investing in India they will prevent any major power to control the IOR and southern half of Eurasia

US with its pivot to Asia wants to still control the China and Russia combination

India is a key factor in that and India has to handle this

But the key problem for India will be China Pakistan axis which will be toxic
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We are an ally who stood by India in darkest hours: Russia

http://brahmand.com/news/We-are-an-ally ... /1/10.html
NEW DELHI (PTI): With deals over US$ 12 billion in its kitty this month, including leasing of a second nuclear submarine, Russia hopes to bag more projects as it termed itself as not just a business partner but an "ally" who stood by India in its "darkest hours".

Russia is eying the multi-billion dollar deal for the P75-I project of India under which six conventional submarines are to be built with Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) systems and the next aircraft carrier project besides the deal to jointly develop a fifth generation fighter aircraft.

Asserting that there is no limit to what India and Russia can do together, a top Russian defence official claimed the US and Europeans can never give what Moscow can and has offered.

"We are ready not just to deliver most serious weapons, most important weapons but continue to give our state-of-art technology," Sergei Chemezov, CEO of Rostec State Corporation, an umbrella organisation of 700 hi-tech civilian and military firms, told PTI.

"Russia is a friend, an ally and not a business partner.


Russia stood by India during its darkest hours. Next year will mark 70 years of our relationship. It is a long time," he said and noted that Russia had stood by India when it faced sanctions after the 1998 nuclear tests."Not so in the recent past, when India was under sanctions, we were pretty much the only partner for India.

"Russia has been a partner not only in every day military supplies but also most sensitive and most important supplies including a nuclear submarine which was rented to India for you to use," said Chemezov who is also a close aide of Russian President Vladmir Putin.

"Come to think about it, I would not imagine any other country to do that, he said. Not in the past or in the future.

I cannot imagine US or Europe giving India such a strategic asset," he said when asked about the tough competition that the US and Europe are giving to Russia in the Indian defence market.


Not only did Russia lease out a nuclear powered submarine, it actively helped in the building of India's first indigenous nuclear weapon carrying capable submarine, INS Arihant, which has been inducted into the Indian Navy.

Chemezov said "it is a very special year for us and will be marked by major projects and things are starting already."

He, however, admitted that from a third person's point of view, there might have been some decline in some areas of defence between the two countries. US and some European countries have managed to strike mega deals with India which the Russians were also competing for.

"It is not a linear sort of relationship.

We feel that ties are definitely developing and increasing," he said.


Giving example of the deadly BRAHMOS missile, Chemezov said that not only has Russia delivered high value equipment but has also collaborated with India on developing strategic assets.

He pointed out that in late 1990s, Russia had transferred technology for Su-30 MKI, India's frontline fighter aircraft.

"At that point of time, it was our most modern equipment, our most modern plane. When we had actually signed that agreement, Russia did not even equip its army with this.

"This was basically our newest highest technology. That shows and speaks about our relationship with India," he said.

He also gave the example of T-90 tanks, saying they are "not in any way less but in many way, modern than any advanced US or European technologies".

He said there is scope for cooperation in the P75-I and the aircraft carrier project.

"There is definitely scope for both of those. There is pretty much no limit to what we could do together. Anything that is within our realm of things and possibilities, means it is the same with India," he said.
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China is digesting the US pivot to Asia.
Its like the big borg that gobbles up all the pivot places.
Freedom from Western Domination of Asia is underway.

Also China is reverting to the old normal before beginning of colonialism.
That's what is happening.
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Russia-China bonhomie: India has no reason to worry

A perspective - worth reading!

The author summarises -
In the larger scheme of things, from the Russian point of view, cooperation with the Chinese has obvious limitations and is more useful for sustaining a balance of power in the South China Sea and Western Pacific Ocean -- while disengaging from India, the pivotal state of the 21st century, by making a big issue out of US-India LEMOA, would erase the Russian strategic imprint on the southern peripheries of Asia and the Indian Ocean where the Chinese are still in no position to contribute much.

In the coming years, we may witness a scenario in which the US and Russia will compete to woo India and will end up strengthening its military capabilities to the disadvantage of rising Chinese power.
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Malayappan wrote:Russia-China bonhomie: India has no reason to worry

A perspective - worth reading!

The author summarises -
In the larger scheme of things, from the Russian point of view, cooperation with the Chinese has obvious limitations and is more useful for sustaining a balance of power in the South China Sea and Western Pacific Ocean -- while disengaging from India, the pivotal state of the 21st century, by making a big issue out of US-India LEMOA, would erase the Russian strategic imprint on the southern peripheries of Asia and the Indian Ocean where the Chinese are still in no position to contribute much.

In the coming years, we may witness a scenario in which the US and Russia will compete to woo India and will end up strengthening its military capabilities to the disadvantage of rising Chinese power.
A quite nonsensical article especially the conclusion in the title that contradicts what he himself wrote. The article goes over the genuine strategic outreach between China and Russia and the real possibility of a military/strategic alliance between them while going on to say that India has nothing to worry since Russia is selling it arms and thereby doing it a huge favour (basically milking its gullible and internally corrupt traditional cash cow and laughing all the way to the bank while in principle supporting our enemies). Does not stand up to any rational logic or realistic analysis, but gives an all-izz-well feeling to those who have blinkers on.

Russia/SU continues to reap amazing returns on it's dirt-cheap investment in generations of Russia-Rakshaks.
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Demographics make and break everything- economy, defence preparedness, imposition of geopolitical strategems.

China falls of demographic cliff in 2030. Russia already has fallen off the cliff. USA sustains demographic strength based on its 'current' ability to attract talent(past performance is no guarantee for future success). India falls of demographic cliff in 2075.

BartS, I do not see how the statement - In the coming years, we may witness a scenario in which the US and Russia will compete to woo India and will end up strengthening its military capabilities to the disadvantage of rising Chinese power.- is inaccurate? Have you forgotten the lessons of British empire- which was an empire purely because of Indian manpower?

I am interested in your thoughts why we have become Russian Rakshaks?
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panduranghari wrote:Demographics make and break everything- economy, defence preparedness, imposition of geopolitical strategems.

China falls of demographic cliff in 2030. Russia already has fallen off the cliff. USA sustains demographic strength based on its 'current' ability to attract talent(past performance is no guarantee for future success). India falls of demographic cliff in 2075.

BartS, I do not see how the statement - In the coming years, we may witness a scenario in which the US and Russia will compete to woo India and will end up strengthening its military capabilities to the disadvantage of rising Chinese power.- is inaccurate? Have you forgotten the lessons of British empire- which was an empire purely because of Indian manpower?

I am interested in your thoughts why we have become Russian Rakshaks?
Sirji, no offence intended and I wasn't calling you anything. My comment was about the many Indians who churn out pro-Russian perspectives at the drop of the hat, when they should be pro-Indian first.

Coming to your point, and the part of the article that you quoted, that may or may not happen, it is well in to the future and at best is speculation. A few decades in geopolitics is a long time.

I think it is more important to focus on events that are happening now, and not be either fixated on the past bonhomie or be too swayed by predictions and speculations of future scenarios. My comment and what I took issue with was about the way (reflected in the title of the piece) he brushed aside the very real alliance between Russia and China and the military exercises with a rabid Pakistani military that had just committed a terrorist atrocity on our soil, and spinning it as a positive for India just because Russia got to make more money off us.
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BartS, Have you looked at the writer's credentials? He has been at forefront of explaining national security to Hindi audience as Dainik Jagran Reporter. A lawyer by education.
I think you are misreading his article.
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India,a traditional friend and non-confrontationist state affecting Russia's strategic interests,in the Russian viewpoint cannot become either a Yanqui or Chinese stool-pigeon,subservient to either and being used by either as a catspaw in the Asia-Pacific region.

Therefore, ensuring India's military prowess so that it is able to defend itself from the US and the Sino-Pak combine, is ion Russia's strategic interests.
India,which is set to become the largest populated nation on the planet,has a great bearing upon global affairs,economically,scientifically,culturally,and militarily for the rest of this century.
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Terrorism cannot be defeated with double standards: India and Russia
NEW DELHI: Coming together against terrorism, India and Russia today said the menace cannot be defeated with "double standards" and there is a need for "zero tolerance" and collective efforts to combat terrorism.

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar held a detailed meeting with his Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu here during which the issue of terrorism was also discussed.

Parrikar also made it clear that Russia is India's time tested and closest partner and it will continue to remain primary defence partner.

"One of the key security challenges faced by India is that of cross-border terrorism. We appreciate Russia's consistent and unwavering support for India in our efforts to eliminate this menace, which is a manifestation of the continued presence of terrorist groups in India's neighbourhood," Parrikar said as he co-chaired the Indo-Russian Inter Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation meeting.

He noted that Russia has also been actively engaged in efforts to eliminate terrorists in West Asia."We both recognize that the menace of terrorism cannot be defeated with double standards. There is a need for zero tolerance and collective efforts to combat terrorism," he said.

On his part, Shoigu said at times there is unacceptable "double or even, at times, triple standards" in fight against terrorism.

"What is absolutely unacceptable in terms of the fight against terrorism is the use of the double or even, at times, triple standards.... The serious consolidation of all reasonable powers is necessary to fight this 21st century's evil," he said.

Shoigu also alluded to the problem of distinguishing between terrorists and moderate opposition, which hindered the collaboration between Russia and the United States in Syria.

Both leaders are also understood to have discussed deeper military cooperations, especially focusing on joint production of fifth generation fighter aircraft, upgradation of Su-30 MKI planes and firming up the contract for the Triumf air defence system.

Russia is India's time tested and closest partner and it will continue to remain our primary defence partner," Parrikar said.


He said that while military technical cooperation is progressing well, he feels that the traditional military- to-military cooperation needs more focus.

"The pace and depth of our exchanges at the level of Chiefs, training of personnel in each other's institutions, joint military exercises between all armed forces should be enhanced."We could mutually work out the modalities of increasing the military-to-military cooperation and draw up a roadmap for implementation," he said.
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Manohar Parrikar hands a non-paper to Russian defence minister ‘to recapture dynamism of military ties

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... s-3726801/
“In the government, we felt that we need to try and recapture the dynamism of military-to-military interaction that was earlier between India and Russia,” top government sources told The Indian Express. To recapture the dynamism, according to sources, Parrikar handed over a non-paper to General Shoigu, which has proposals for institutionalising the interaction between the two countries. As a first step towards that, Parrikar proposed the expansion of Military-Technical commission to a Military and Military-Technical commission which was readily accepted by his Russian counterpart.

The non-paper proposes that India and Russia will increase the number of joint military exercises, increase their frequency and make them more complex. It also suggests more robust staff-level talks between Indian and Russian defence ministries, which will feed into institutionalised senior-level dialogues. These proposals are part of the changed thinking in the government circles that defence has to be the core driver of India-Russia relationship.

“The idea is to increase the surface level of interaction between India and Russia defence ministries. That is one important outcome of the meeting,” source added. While there is a scope for improvement but the two sides recognise that there has been good progress as India has committed to making big-ticket defence purchases from Russia. According to sources, Moscow knows that India’s relationship with the US is independent of the India-Russia relationship and it is not a zero-sum game.
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Russia loses UN Human Rights Council place, Saudi Arabia re-elected
Published time: 28 Oct, 2016 16:52

For the first time since UNHRC's inception in 2006, Russia has lost an election to the UN Human Rights Council after being narrowly beaten by Croatia in a vote. Saudi Arabia was successfully re-elected, despite criticism from human rights organizations.
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The 47 places on the council are distributed on a regional basis, with staggered ballots seeing a third of the body re-elected each year. Russia had finished its three-year term and was running against Hungary and Croatia for the two available seats from Eastern Europe.
With Hungary far ahead, Croatia received the votes of 114 of the 193 member countries, and Russia was selected on 112 ballots.

""It was a very close vote and very good countries competing, Croatia, Hungary. They are fortunate because of their size, they are not exposed to the winds of international diplomacy. Russia is very exposed. We've been in the UNHRC for several years, and I am sure next time we will stand and get back in," said Russia's UN envoy Vitaly Churkin. Russia is eligible to run next year, against a new set of countries.

Saudi Arabia sailed through the Asian ballot with 152 votes, and will represent the region on the UNHRC alongside China, Japan and Iraq for the next three years.

South Africa, Rwanda, Egypt and Tunisia were chosen from the African group, Cuba and Brazil from Latin America and the Caribbean, and the US and the UK will represent the Western bloc, which comprises Western Europe and North America.

Over the next term, which will last between 2017 and 2019, the 14 chosen members will be tasked with formulating the UN’s official position on conflicts occurring around the world, as well as the domestic policies of member states.

The elections took place against a backdrop of criticism from non-governmental human rights organizations, who say that the body has been hijacked by oppressive regimes looking to deflect criticism and drive their own agendas.

Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International produced a joint statement earlier this year condemning Saudi Arabia for “an appalling record of violations” in Yemen, where it has conducted a bombing campaign against Houthi rebels since 2015, which has resulted in the deaths of up to 4,000 civilians. The two organizations called for Saudi Arabia, a member of the UNHRC since it was created in 2006, apart from a mandatory year-long break after two terms, to be suspended – to no avail.

Saudi Arabia used its power in the council to block an outside inquiry into the campaign last month, while leading a successful resolution that placed the responsibility of investigating human rights abuses in the hands of its allies, the exiled Yemeni government.

Saudi Arabia carried out 157 executions domestically last year – the highest number in two decades, and is on pace to match the number this year. Critics of the regime have often faced detention, while women do not enjoy autonomy and equal status before the law.


Riyadh has repeatedly refused visits from UNHRC rapporteurs looking to investigate the justice system, incidences of torture, and discrimination.

:rotfl: In its official campaign brochure, published ahead of the vote, Saudi Arabia boasted about its human rights record, claiming, for example, that it supports “the empowerment of women at all levels” in compliance with “Sharia law, which guarantees fair gender equality.”

Ahead of this year’s vote Russia came under concerted pressure from human rights organizations.

“The non-election of Russia shows that the nations of the world can reject gross abusers if they so choose,” said executive director Hillel Neuer. “This makes the election of Saudi Arabia, China and Cuba even more preposterous.”

A petition signed by 80 NGOs, including Human Rights Watch and Refugees International, asked the voting countries to "question seriously whether Russia's role in Syria which includes supporting and undertaking military actions which have routinely targeted civilians and civilian objects renders it fit to serve on the UN's premier inter-governmental human rights institution."

Russia dismissed the petition, published this week, as “cynical” and “dishonorable,” and said the accusations were motivated more by politics than by concern for human rights. Moscow, which has been conducting airstrikes in the country over the past year, says that it is acting legally, following an official call for assistance from the Syrian government, and insists that its war efforts are targeted at terrorists.

"China, Cuba, Egypt, Iraq, Rwanda, which all succeeded in their quest for council membership, were also accused by NGOs of being undeserving of a place on the UNHRC.

The current human rights body replaced the United Nations Commission on Human Rights in 2006, which was plagued with identical accusations of domination by authoritarian regimes and preoccupation with Israeli violations in Palestine, at the expense of human rights crimes elsewhere in the world. The election of Muammar Gaddafi’s Libya to head the commission in 2003 was lambasted by Western media and politicians, and was seen as the catalyst for the reforms that have resulted in the formation of the UNHRC
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They forgot to add beheading as a fair law under Sharia law , Truly the Saudi deserves to be in UN Human Rights council governed by Sharia law
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India, Russia on same page in fight against terrorism: Parrikar
New Delhi: Asserting that India and Russia are on the same wavelength with regard to their being no double standards in defeating terrorism, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar on Wednesday acknowledged Moscow's consistent and 'unwavering' support to New Delhi.

"Russia's strong stand in active engagement efforts to eliminate terrorists in the west area is also noticed by us. We both recognize that terrorism cannot be defeated with double standards," Parrikar said.

"We appreciate Russia's consistent and unwavering support for India in our efforts to eliminate this menace which is a manifestation of the continued presence of terrorist groups in India's neighbourhood," he added.
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Apalling,to have the Soothi Barbarians who demean women,treating them as sex slaves,behead people,support ISIS,etc.etc,ad nauseum of the worst of human rights abuses,to be on the UN's panel.It shows how far down the sewer the UN has descended to,an organisation not worth the price of toilet paper.
And we still want an UNSC seat. Ye Gods!
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Photos: Pyshma - copper capital of the Urals

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Philip wrote:Apalling,to have the Soothi Barbarians who demean women,treating them as sex slaves,behead people,support ISIS,etc.etc,ad nauseum of the worst of human rights abuses,to be on the UN's panel.It shows how far down the sewer the UN has descended to,an organisation not worth the price of toilet paper.
And we still want an UNSC seat. Ye Gods!
So we should give up on a UNSC seat just because of that? :roll:

We want a UNSC seat for the power and influence it brings, just like the current P5 members, not for pretensions of morality.
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^ Bart, when we give up all pretensions of morality, we would not even need the UNSC seat. A global power does not care about the opinion of others. We have, since independence, tried to take the high moral ground and taken a beating at major forums including the UNSC. The kowtowing must stop ASAP, Russia does not kowtow, America does not GUBO, be like India of Vikramaditya's lore.
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Right on TK! I've said many a time that the UN is a great bordello where the 5 PMs get to scr*w the rest of the world for free.Rotating non PM members of the UNSC get only "voyeur" rights for their term. The Gen.Assembly is nothing but a "meat show",a flesh carnival,where speeches by some would do well in a fish market.Some clowns and comedians lighten up the hall like speeches from the Paki PM<etc.The entire management is usually down by a non-white "Adam".We now have aa "Adam" fro poor Portugal!

Here's another fiery podium speaker fulminating against his pet noire the US.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 95516.html
Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte suggests asking Russia for weapons after US block rifle sale
'[America] won't sell weapons? We have lots of explosives here already'


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Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte recently announced his country's 'separation' from the United States AFP/Getty Images

Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte has suggested he may turn to Russia to provide his country with weapons, after the US government reportedly blocked the sale of assault rifles to police in the Philippines.

Thelle US state department recently halted the sale of 26,000 rifles due to concerns over Mr Duterte's violent war on drugs in which thousands have been kid without trial, according to Reuters.

"They are blackmailing me, saying that they won't sell weapons? We have lots of explosives here already," Mr Duterte told CNN Philippines.

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Rodrigo Duterte's war on drugs leaves Philippines mayor among 10 dead
Duterte tells US: Forget about a defence deal as long as I'm in power
Forget Duterte. The Philippines loves the United States.
Russia says it is ready to cooperate with the Philippines

"I remember what the Russian diplomat said: Come to Russia, we have anything you need here."

US state department spokesman John Kirby said he could not comment on the arms sale due to federal regulations, while Philippines police chief Ronald dela Rosa told a press conference he had not received official notice the sale had been blocked.

In October, Russia’s ambassador to the Philippines said Moscow was ready to discuss a partnership with the Philippines, after Mr Duterte announced his country was “separating” from the United States.

“Formulate your wish list,” Igor Khovaev told Mr Duterte according to GMA news agency. “Think of what kind of assistance you expect from Russia and we will be ready to sit down with you and discuss what can and should be done.”

Speaking during a state visit to Beijing last month, Mr Duterte said: "I announce my separation from the United States. Both in military, not maybe social, but economics also. America has lost."

The most controversial quotes from Rodrigo Duterte

The organisation Human Rights Watch estimates as many as 5,000 people have been killed by police in the war on drugs since Mr Duterte was elected president on June 30 this year.

Mr Duterte's approach has been repeatedly criticised by the US as tensions continue to grow between the two countries, with the Filipino president responding by telling Barack Obama to "go to hell" and claiming he "doesn't give a s*** about human rights".

During his China visit, Mr Duterte announced he believed “America has lost” and said he would “go to Russia to talk to Putin and tell him that there are three of us against the world - China, Philippines and Russia”.

In early October, Mr Duterte effectively severed 65 years of military ties between the US and the Philippines by ordering US troops out of the country.
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If duterte gets a good bargain with russia / china, then others will follow. Not very different than one "don" taking over another's territory for "hafta" (weekly protection money?).

Should one compromise with the many munnas like duterte or should one strike a single BIG compromise with the long time adversary?
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Tublai Khan wrote:^ Bart, when we give up all pretensions of morality, we would not even need the UNSC seat. A global power does not care about the opinion of others. We have, since independence, tried to take the high moral ground and taken a beating at major forums including the UNSC. The kowtowing must stop ASAP, Russia does not kowtow, America does not GUBO, be like India of Vikramaditya's lore.
Global powers care if there is a UNSC sanction. Which is why it is important to have veto power. Of course, we offered this saet and JLN in his great wisdom chose to give it China—condemning us to dig a hole and spend the last 70 years trying get out of it.

Global powers have a heightened sense of self interest and great clarity of the endgame. Does that sound like Indian foreign policy?
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Russia, Pakistan and China to hold talks on Afghanistan - The News pk
MOSCOW: Russia will hold a series of trilateral talks on Afghanistan next month, its foreign ministry said Monday, as Moscow plans to establish a wider regional partnership on the issue.

Zamir Kabulov, director of the Second Asian Department, told RIA Novosti the next consultation on Afghanistan would take place between Russia, China and Pakistan.

"We are discussing this with the Chinese, the Iranians, Indians, Pakistanis. There is work on specifics… For example, we are planning the next Russian-Chinese-Pakistani consultations in December. They will be held in Moscow," said Kabulov.

The development comes amid a series of massive assaults in Afghanistan by the Taliban, the latest one on the German consulate in Mazar-eSharif, as the militant group refuses to surrender the Afghan government.

The Taliban said the bombing late Thursday, which tore a massive crater in the road and overturned cars, was a "revenge attack" for US air strikes this month in the volatile province of Kunduz that left 32 civilians dead.

The Quadrilateral Group, consisting of Pakistan, China, Afghanistan and the United States, had gained little success in brokering peace talks between Kabul and the militant group.

The peace talks, however, collapsed after a US drone strike killed Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mansour in Balochistan in May this year. It wasn’t until September the Afghan government held secret peace talks with the militant group.

The Guardian had reported that a senior American diplomat was present in the meetings in Qatar, where the Islamist group has a diplomatic office. No Pakistani official took part in the latest talks, according to the Guardian, which cited Taliban sources.
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Russia apparently has no qualms about selling military equipment to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan if the Islamic Republic was in a position to put down cash for it.

Trust our foreign policy makers are aware of Russian proclivities.

Excerpt from Interview by Turkeys Andolou Agency of Russian President Vladimir Putin's special envoy to Afghanistan, Zamir Kabulov dealing with Russia – Pakistan relations.
Putin envoy: There is no quick solution in Afghanistan

Whether you like it or not, Taliban is a real political armed force, says Russian president's special envoy to Afghanistan

15.11.2016

Zamir Kabulov, President Vladimir Putin's special envoy to Afghanistan and the Foreign Ministry's director of the Second Asian Department, spoke to Anadolu Agency in Moscow about the situation in Afghanistan, developments in the region, and Russian foreign policy. ………………………

Russia and Pakistan

Kabulov stated that after a bad spell due to the Soviet Union’s long-ago occupation of Afghanistan, Russian-Pakistani relations have recently improved. "We are currently in a relationship with Pakistan. The level of political relations is quite high. Since we do not have major joint projects in the field of the economy, our commercial-economic volume is not much. Our military technical cooperation continues. We sold some military products to Pakistan. They want to buy more, but we do not work with Pakistan on credit and their economic opportunities are limited.”

He also stressed that they support the Pakistani government and are opposed to any kind of armed group, saying, "The Pakistani Taliban, the true brother of the Afghan Taliban, has only a slightly different goal. I think the Taliban poses a threat to the Pakistani democratic state. We support the Pakistani government and we are against any kind of armed group. The Pakistani Taliban also did not fight Daesh.”

Reporting by Hakan Ceyhan Aydogan ; Writing by Ilker Girit
Putin envoy: There is no quick solution in Afghanistan
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Nothing Indo-Russia but interesting, how Russia has shown the middle finger to ICC.

Russia: Vladimir Putin withdraws signature from International Criminal Court treaty
President Vladimir Putin signed an executive order on Wednesday, removing Russia's signature from the International Criminal Court's founding treaty, piling pressure on a court that is already reeling from withdrawals by some African countries.

Moscow never ratified the treaty, which it signed in 2000, meaning it never became a member subject to its jurisdiction. But the symbolic move coincided with the opening day of the general assembly of member states.

On Monday, the ICC angered Moscow by referring to Russia's 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea as an armed conflict. It is also examining allegations of war crimes committed by Russian and Georgian forces during a brief 2008 war.
"It is revealing that in its 14 years of work the ICC has pronounced just four verdicts and spent over $1 billion."
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ICC is dead. None of the larger countries India,China,US, Russia support it.
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PHOTOS: Kaliningrad from a height: the most "European" city in Russia

http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/86358/
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan ... SKBN13F03U
Japan PM Abe: way to peace treaty with Russia coming into sight
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This is the most important aspect which will describe which blog in future will strengthen. Amazing possibilities
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Bhurishravas wrote:ICC is dead. None of the larger countries India,China,US, Russia support it.
ICC is an institution dreamed and created by Europian goblist cabal which itself weakened now.
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Russi FSB chief was in Gwadar for a surprise visit. Any insights from any guru
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^^Looks like chinese are pawning gawdar to Russia.
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For all strategic purposes, Russia and China's interests seem to be aligning. India needs to diversify its defence needs more aggressively. Russia is not yet paying a price for needling India in matters of strategic concern to us.
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The speed of change in great power movement is scary. Almost resembles promiscuous flirting between all the powers.
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krishna_krishna wrote:Russi FSB chief was in Gwadar for a surprise visit. Any insights from any guru
Source?
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Rudradev wrote:Source?
Visited Islamabad actually.

Russia allowed use of Gwadar Port - The News
Earlier the sources in Islamabad suggested that Russian desire to be part of CPEC and use Gwadar Port indicated a new alignment in relations after decades’ sour ties between Pakistan and Russia.

It was being branded a welcoming development and the ice had melted to this effect in the recent meeting of spy masters of both the countries that was held in Islamabad.

Alexander Bortnikov, chief of Russian Intelligence Federal Security Services and former chief of KGB, in recent days visited Islamabad after 14 years and held meetings with intelligence and defence top officials. More importantly Bortnikov also held crucial meeting with Pakistan’s spy master — ISI chief Lt General Rizwan Akhter.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/167827 ... wadar-Port
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