Levant crisis - III

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 02 Nov 2016 00:53

IMO Erdogan should be encourged to send all his mobile forces into Syria and Iraq and camp out there. A focused thrust from the Baltic + Syria should be able to cut Turkey into two like what happened to Georgia. Best solution to end the Erdogan regime. He can find a job as Minister in Ukraine, like the Georgian turd.

Bhurishravas · Post by **Bhurishravas** » 02 Nov 2016 03:33

https://www.rt.com/news/365006-turkey-i ... er-troops/

Ankara is deploying heavy armor, including tanks to the border near Iraq, media reports say. Turkish Defense Minister has meanwhile said that the military will tackle potential “increase” of threats to the country.

http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/011120162

Abadi warns Turkey: Don’t enter Iraq or you will pay the price

If Turkey intervenes militarily in Iraq, which it most likely will, considering Erdogan`s expansionist ambitions, neither US nor Russia will intervene. Iran will provide limited support. The kurds are on their own. So are the shias in north Iraq.
Anyone imagining Russian Federation intervening in Iraq must first ask why they didnt stop Erdogan from invading Syria.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 02 Nov 2016 04:26

Wait a sec, wasn't Turkey already in Iraq? What's new? Kurds are on record stating they will seek independent Kurdish state post Mosul op. Isn't an independent state bibi-redline for Erdo? Why in the world would Ru intervene? They would be happy to see unkil's Kurdish project go up in flames caused by its now unpleasant Na-too ally..

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Nov 2016 07:24

Ab al fida a 1973 war veteran joins saa in aleppo

https://mobile.twitter.com/leithfadel/s ... 73/photo/1

Russia woukd prefer rojava to succeed in syria and north iraq to create buffer between turkiye jihadis and shia axis now stretching to sunni cairo also.
Its the american owned erbil and kirkuk barzani empire they would not mind seeing fail as it has plans for irani kurdistan....usaf will defend them though .... its the neutral northern kurds yezedis assyrians who were thrown under bus.

Who takes al bab is key question. CAn ypg retain manbij and does usa support that pov ?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Nov 2016 07:26

I suspect these decisions obama is leaving to next potus. for now pentagon fights with ypg and isof. Cia fights with fsa jihad and nsa from jordan

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 07:47

Turkish army begins to deploy tanks and equipment in Silopi, near the Iraqi border.

A surprise visit of the Chief of Staff of Turkish army to Moscow

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 07:55

Re: Lebabnon & Saad Hariri supporting a pro-Syria & pro-hezb candidate as President

Sa’ad Hariri is shunned today by the Saudis for his failure to properly assist the Syrian “opposition” in Lebanon, especially in Tripoli, the northern capital. Without Saudi funding, Hariri knows he cannot survive much longer as a political heavy-weight. He is unable to pay many of his own apparatchiks in Beirut and has begun to slowly divest himself of all the burdensome accoutrements of being the “spoiler”. He has managed to negotiate for himself the position of Prime Minister which he will use to assuage any hurt feelings in Damascus. He has also come to the realization that the Syrian army and political system has defeated Saudi Arabia’s plan to replace Dr. Assad.

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 09:01

There was one report that the PMU near that town near the syrian border found 40 civilians running away from IS and exterminated them. I figure this was a group of 40 ISIS who managed to run away.

Meanwhile Kurdish Peshmerga & ISF are complaining that the coalition of the killing airforce isn't supporting them by targeting retreating IS as was previously agreed upon. Once PMU and allies take over a vital junction between mosul and syrian tal afar, it will close all roads out of Mosul except one. So IS has only 3-4 days available to exfiltrate before gates are slammed shut.

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 09:06

Gift from sisi to saudi ?

Egyptian soldiers arrive in Syria

Syrian news added 2 new photos, 1 hr ago --
Ali Shams Aldin ‏@Ali_Shams_Aldin
A trusted source confirms arrival of Egyptian soldiers to Syria.
They came on board the Russian Air Force plane.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 3162_o.jpg

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Nov 2016 09:08

daesh tunnel digging machine https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwNinoNW8AA0OW9.jpg

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 09:12

only missing force in Syria is North Korea.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Nov 2016 09:15

oct31 map

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Nov 2016 09:17

PMU will likely split into two soon ... one to cut the road links close to mosul and setup checkpoints while the main body heads behind that range of hills direct to tal afar

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 02 Nov 2016 09:58

Good Interview by Asaad to US Media , Read it worth it

Assad to US media on leading Syria: ‘Captain of the ship doesn’t jump into water’

https://www.rt.com/news/365036-assad-le ... ria-media/

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Nov 2016 10:53

turkish armour and arty has been able to do precious little to help their FSA munnas vs daesh/SDF. the iraqis are far more heavily armed and large in numbers and they too have kornets and toufans - lots of them. they are far less vulnerable than syria in striking back.

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 12:01

Turkey army kiske saath hain, un besharmon ko erdogan ne rape kiya lekin phir bhi muh latkaaye erdogan ka kaha sun rahein hain. Never seen a more luck-less so-called army.

One slap and this useless army will run back to their rat hole in Istanbul from where they emerged.
this is a force that was beaten up, kicked, raped by the very civilians they were supposed to protect.

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 12:11

the combined Iraqi militias, Hashd al Sha'abi made an impressive advance in few days, they are 45 kms from Tal Afar, which by then they would have cut off all ISIS way out from Mosul. ISIS from Hawija pocket are already encircled and trapped.

The Iraq Militia is approaching the cross roads, actually some 10 kms away from it, once they reach and control it, ISIS will only have 1 road out of Mosul, the one closer to Tal Afar, which it could have some sort of of fire control from the Yazidis and PKKs.

It seems ISIS has 3-4 days of way out, meanwhile RuAF, SAAF and Iraq airforce are destroying most of convoys moving to Syria, as expected the Coalition of the Killing is not bombing fleeing ISIS. Both ISF and Peshmergas have complained that the coalition of the killing is not supporting, as expected and agreed, ISIS in and around Mosul, some sources say they are 20% of they were supposed to be.

https://twitter.com/A7_Mirza/status/793205100101632000

The Iraqi victory on Mosul and around will have profound implications to Syria, ISIS will have its terrorist recruit pool reduced dramatically and losses won't be replaced as it used to be 2 years ago, even now ISIS has a hard time to replace KIA and WIA, this has only one fate, they will lose ground and go underground as soon as they notice they can not hold cities and areas again, but before it happens, they will try hard to find sweet spots where they can lay for longer, and that is central Syria for now, such as central Homs and Mashkaneh-Raqqa area.

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 12:21

Austin wrote:Good Interview by Asaad to US Media , Read it worth it

Assad to US media on leading Syria: ‘Captain of the ship doesn’t jump into water’

https://www.rt.com/news/365036-assad-le ... ria-media/

they are questioning Asad on fate of political prisoners.

Like any Western govt, especially the US has the right to question Assad.

The US has the highest incarceration rate in the world...including political ( Guantanamo bay!), state, federal, country and city jails & prisons (often run by for-profit corporations)....it amazes me that these reporters & media are so shameless. The US tortured "detainees" in Iraq, throughout South America, and elsewhere.

HUH????? Assad is a statesman. He could have said he has no "detainees" unlike the West.

USA has been developing the underground logistics for the Syrian rebellion for a decade before it actually began in 2011. It was vastly sped up and financed after 2006 like someone's life depended on it.

Also the first protests were not for freedom or anything but for government help due to the drought.

The foreign terrorists then started shooting law enforcement and protesters (viz circa Ukraine Maidan shootings) to start this. This is very well documented that the foreign terrorists brought into Syria using blind, yes blind Syrians to act like real local protesters on the sly took up arms to give the impression of an uprising.

Every writer and editor at The New York Times can suck balls in between a ferocious shit. A bunch of slimy, lying, war-mongering Zionist scumbags

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 12:24

The SAA gives the poor hard pressed Damascus takfiris a present - an alarm clock to wake them up for their early morning prayers.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 02 Nov 2016 12:31

A trusted source confirms arrival of Egyptian soldiers to Syria. They came on board the Russian Air Force plane
https://twitter.com/Ali_Shams_Aldin/...83982105493504

Syrian Army Officer tells me Egyptian officers came to "gain experience in tunnels & guerrilla warfare"
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/s...93645282844672

Egyptian soldiers and commanders have been reportedly observed in Syria with all their military equipment. We will see.
Notably, jihadists captured some Egyptian ammunition when they first attacked Assad District in west Aleppo.Proves presence of Egyptian aid.
https://twitter.com/AbuHantala/statu...75742609162240

Also, Iraq is going to supply Egypt with a million barrels of oil per month, as Saudi in all its anger (due to Egypt voting for the Russian UNSC resolution on Syria) halted oil shipments in October. Seems like an Egypt-Syria-Iraqi axis is slowly taking shape.

Remember when Saudi (as in Bandar bin Sultan) claimed that Russia would antagonize the whole Sunni world with its support for Assad? Not only is Russia is pulling Egypt away from the Saudis, it appears to have managed to pull in the largest Arab and Sunni country in Syria, in support of the government

http://themess.net/forum/military-discu ... post201914

Rammpal · Post by **Rammpal** » 02 Nov 2016 12:33

^^^all the twitter pages are off !

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 12:38

Before erdog made his pilgrimage to St. Petersburg to meet Putin over 1300 hotels were up for sale on the Turkish coast due to no Russian tourists. Putin knows how to apply pressure.

The turks have made a deal with Somebody because & It is important to note here that since their adventure into Syria , the Turks have not taken not even one shot at the Syrian military.

Infact one of the main reasons for USA getting rid of Maliki, was to get in someone as weak and indecisive as Abadi, Abadi, it seems can be pushed around and the turks knows it, not so Maliki , Maliki was closely aligned with Iran and did not even take a piss without consulting Iran , he would have none of this Turkish nonsense, in any case thinngs is going to go bad for Turkey soon , very soon. I reckon post US elections between Nov-Feb.

The Iraqis are helping Syria wrap things up in Syria, then they both will refocus on turkey, no matter what deal they have with Russia

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 12:40

Turkey under Ergoofy and after the Turked coup,
has reached a greedy megalomaniac status
like a village idiot in the world community.

A greedy criminal family clan as entourage
of an anointed Ergoofy
is capable of anything but for nothing of use.

Meanwhile nothing here we didn't know but it's nice to have it confirmed by that demon, Hillary herself:

http://yournewswire.com/clinton-email-w ... or-israel/

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 02 Nov 2016 12:50

Rammpal wrote:^^^all the twitter pages are off !

http://themess.net/forum/military-discu ... r/page1643

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 02 Nov 2016 12:50

The TV channel "Star" published footage of takeoff and landing aircraft Su-33 and MiG-29KUB with the aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov".

Gyan · Post by **Gyan** » 02 Nov 2016 13:22

I think Ergodan is an idiot. He first jumps then hopes to make a deal before he hits the ground. Iraq and Syria are having difficulty taking out DUG IN Daesh from URBAN BUILT UP areas. Turkish armour and infantry in open will be slaughtered by Kurds, Iraqis, Syria acting together. The only thing he can do is:-

Recover Turkish SF
Let Daesh be massacred by cutting off their supplies
Retreat back to Turkey border
Cut a deal to control Kurds with Iran, Iraq, Syria
Become an international tourist hotspot and gas & crude conduit

If he has territorial ambitions then God cannot save Turkey. They will be Christmas Dinner.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Nov 2016 14:26

al masdar news. earlier the tigers and hawks had a uneasy relation and never deployed together. this time its all in for aleppo interior. imo SDF could surge out of Afrin or let the syrian army deploy into afrin from nubl-zahraa channel and hit the rebels from the rear too in parallel.

DAMASCUS, SYRIA (10:00 A.M.) - The Syrian Arab Army's "Tiger Forces" have been tasked to lead the new Aleppo offensive that is expected to begin in the coming days as the jihadist attack winds down in the western suburbs.

Led by their charismatic commander, Colonel Suheil Al-Hassan, the Tiger Forces will concentrate on the western and southern suburbs of Aleppo, despite ongoing operations inside the rebel-held eastern districts.

Joining the Tiger Forces will be the elite paramilitary group, Liwaa Suqour Al-Sahra (Desert Hawks Brigade); they were recently deployed to Aleppo after a long deployment in the northern countryside of the Latakia Governorate.

Unlike the previous offensives in Aleppo City, this assault will not be halted for any reason, a military source told Al-Masdar News this morning.

The Syrian Armed Forces have been scrutinized by western regimes for their ongoing military operations against the jihadist rebels inside the provincial capital of Aleppo.

Bhurishravas · Post by **Bhurishravas** » 02 Nov 2016 14:49

Before erdog made his pilgrimage to St. Petersburg to meet Putin over 1300 hotels were up for sale on the Turkish coast due to no Russian tourists. Putin knows how to apply pressure.

Erdogan knows when to shoot Russian plane and when and how to massage ego of a dictator.

Turkey has a trained military man power of half a million men. Neither Syria, nor Iraq can match that. Conventional warfare terms, there is no match. But the kurds and the various other guerilla fighters will bleed turkey to death. So, Turkey invading Iraq and Syria is not so bad.

Rishi Verma · Post by **Rishi Verma** » 02 Nov 2016 14:56

After the failed coup in Turkey the Islamist Ergo may think twice about going to war. Total distrust must be prevailing in the Turkish military and no loyalties could be assumed.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Nov 2016 15:04

iraqi columns have penetrated into the eastern suburbs of mosul on multiple axes..but so far no real sign of ISIS.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwFfuRjW8AAmvY9.jpg

these are scout columns designed to find nodes of resistance...

I think if the est of 5000 fighters in Mosul be true, that is very less to command a city whose diameter is 15km. probably they are concentrated in a belt along the river on both sides and have left behind svbied drivers and buried mines for the rest.

the rats who are further south of mosul along the tigris in areas not yet touched by the iraqis must be thinking what to do - stay put, run back and face possible execution or charge out and die.

unlike the sleek and polished shams/nusra/turkestani SF elites, in palmyra or manbij the ISIS showed no sign of being able to fight a conventional military battle properly...1000s of unused mines were left behind in palmyra.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Nov 2016 15:14

not much news coming out of aleppo as well. assuming 500 jihadis kia, where have the rest of 4500 gone to ground or gathering and what are their plans?

syrian govt is well underway to complete their victory over the damascus enclaves. ghouta and other holdouts will probably surrender and take the Idlib green BMTC bus before the year is out.

this will free up some good units of repub guard for palmyra+

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 02 Nov 2016 15:21

Putin orders 10-hour humanitarian pause in Aleppo on Nov. 4 – Russian military

https://www.rt.com/news/365047-aleppo-h ... corridors/

General Valery Gerasimov, the chief of the Russian General Staff, said the militants failed to break through the blockade around the city last week and accept Russia’s proposal to leave eastern Aleppo through two specially designated corridors, while reiterating that they would be allowed to keep arms.

“Considering that our American colleagues were unable to separate the opposition from terrorists, we are addressing all militant leaders directly, urging them to cease hostilities and leave Aleppo with their arms,” he said. “Two corridors will be opened, from which Syrian troops and weapons would be pulled back.”

One of the corridors for the militants leads to the Turkish-Syrian border and another one to Idlib, the general said.

“All attempts by the militants by break through the blockade of Aleppo failed. The terrorists sustained serious loss of manpower, arms and vehicles. They no longer have any chance to break out of the city,” Gerasimov said.

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 15:36

I am extremely interested to know how many of these half a million men have not been impacted by seeing their colleagues beheaded on the streets of Istanbul by Erdog's chavanni-chaap thugs. Also interested to know how a professional military, if the Turkish military is one, deals with such blows to it's morale, it's regimental pride, it's respect for hierarchy etc.

Syrian & Iraqi armies on the other hand are battle hardened, and have no issues with respecting hierarchy and the seniors have the respect of their juniors because they lead from the front and take care of their men. Case in point is General Zahreddine in DeZ who lives amongst his men and does battle with them instead of managing the battle via maps from a distant room.

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 15:38

Russian General Staff: All attempts by militants to progress in Aleppo has failed and suffered significant losses.

Russian General Staff: Putin orders to declare a truce in Aleppo from nine in the morning until seven Friday evening.

Russian General Staff: We call on the armed factions to stop fighting and get out of Aleppo due to the failure of Washington in separating opposition from terrorists.

Russian General Staff: will open crossing out for insurgents from Aleppo after the withdrawal of Syrian troops

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 15:43

Singha wrote:not much news coming out of aleppo as well. assuming 500 jihadis kia, where have the rest of 4500 gone to ground or gathering and what are their plans?

From what I read for four days now al-Qaeda in Syria (aka Jabhat al Nusra aka Fatah al-Sham) and assorted other "rebel" groups have tried to attack Aleppo from the west to break the siege on al-Qaeda associated groups in east-Aleppo. The New York Times in now openly admitting that CIA supported groups are acting under al-Qaeda's operational command. The piece though, which belonged on page one, was in the back of the paper. There is no public outcry over this disturbing fact.

As can be seen on the map above the areas al-Qaeda and its allies managed to capture so far are only small rural outskirts. Every attempt to attack actual city estate under roof was repelled by the defenders. Small infiltrations like shown in the map were immediately cleaned up. The marked area is back in the hands of the Syrian army. It is estimated that the several thousand attackers have so far lost more than 500 men. A 1,000 more are likely injured. Every attack has to be carried over mostly open land and is received by heavy artillery fire. Air attacks ravage their supply and preparation ares.

The attackers launched over 20 suicide-vehicle bombs so far but only a few reached their targets and their damage was limited. Yesterday one suicide vehicle bomb, ready to be launched for a new attack, was hit by a missile from a Syrian helicopter and exploded at its preparation and launching position. Over 60 "rebels" were killed by it and their attack had to be called off.

Other fronts in Syria are relatively quiet. The Turks have been told by Russia to stop all air attacks within Syria.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/10/al ... tinue.html

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 15:49

Local sources disclosed that a massive explosion has occurred at a meeting of ISIS (ISIL, IS, Daesh) commanders at the center of the city of Mosul on Monday.
"The explosion occurred at the ISIL commanders meeting in al-Sarjkhaneh in Mosul city center," a local source said.

The source noted that the commander of Jeish al-Asreh and some other ISIL commanders have been killed in the blast, and said, "It is not yet clear what caused the blast at the secret meeting of the ISIL commanders."
Jeish al-Asreh is one of the ISIL's special battalions and is under the direct supervision of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (sic).

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 15:50

Army sappers blow up a rodent burrow in Dier el-Zor (animated GIF)

http://ow.ly/SXVU305FPl3
"We observed lately a large movement of IS fighters, especially those coming from Iraq after the Mosul battle" explained a Syrian Army officer. "We dug a tunnel and blew it up under their headquarters" said one of the National Defence Force leaders, adding "IS fighters are definitely unable to access the area now."

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Nov 2016 15:52

Battle for Aleppo. 01/11/2016

colonelcassad

Briefly on the military situation in the western part of Aleppo, to November 1, 2016.

1. Fights today finally received positional and side serious progress for the day to the west and south-west of Aleppo had. The front was stabilized in the eastern part of the district of Al-Assad and the eastern part of the building 1070. Wedge in 3000 and granted Hamadani militants failed, a full assault Academy Al-Assad has not begun.

2. Resources militants say that during the day of their position to the west of the city were subjected to a strong impact of aviation - went to the Al-Assad, building 1070, Rashidin areas 4 and 5 Rashidin, as well as fog and Kafr Han Nam-ru. As discussed further in the first day of the attack the militants, this development is beneficial primarily CAA - offensive fighters bogged down in street battles, the rate of lost and air strikes are becoming more annoying for attacker. Apparently, the Syrian command was not averse to repeat the scenario Ramuseha for events are now developing in the spirit of the second half of August. So far, the rebels are quite straightforward and therefore ineffective, however, they still have the power to try to reverse the unfavorable for them tends to point mode.

3. Promotion of militants in 1070 eventually led to a kind of deja vu, as well as about the balance of control over the area was observed in the first half of August. CAA moved to the north-east region. Militants have taken badly damaged center, but then can not move forward as barriers preventing suicide customized to homes and undermine them with defenders. Surely there will be attempts to undermine these obstacles or used armored bulldozers, Shaheed. Due to the fact that fully occupy 1,070 militants can not, and the attacks of building 3000 does not add up. If the 3000 attack at the current position of the front line, the attackers will fire not only from 3000, but also in the flank of the north-eastern part of 1070.

Strategically well against all the same.
SAA will bring to an end a defensive operation to the west of the city, and then resume the assault on the eastern neighborhoods. To the north of Aleppo continues race to Al-Baba, which is still far from being solved due to ongoing clashes with Kurds PAS. Turkey, in turn, expands a permanent base in the Al-Rai, which is to become a major hub of Turkish influence in Syria. At the same time Turkey pulls troops to the border with Iraq, where Erdogan wants to take part in "defeating LIH," official Baghdad but he denied this. US under Obama in Syria has openly come to the shore current term administration of the White House. Russia, in turn, expects to complete the deployment of naval forces from the coast of Syria and the elections in the US, then it just will generate a new strategy of behavior depending on who takes the White House, and what will be the level of the ongoing confrontation.

PS. Yet it is worth noting that in the media reported that the Aleppo and Volgograd could become twin cities. According to the degree of destruction of Aleppo have approached Stalingrad by count of the dead in the battle remains strong, but on terms much of the battle ahead. But in general, at the moment it is the biggest battle of the XXI century, so that a certain logical connection completely traceable. Hardly, when students took to the streets to demand "more democracy" they assumed that from Aleppo arrange mini-Stalingrad, which is reduced all to a choice - either Assad or the gang of bearded ghouls. About the "freedom and democracy" on the Western model is already not particularly remember.

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3040712.html

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Nov 2016 16:23

iraqi AF is suspected to have struck that hotel in Mosul and killed some dozens of IS

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 02 Nov 2016 16:34

Video footage of the Syrian Army capturing the strategic town of Tal Kurdi https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/vi ... tal-kurdi/