These people's sophistry is unmatched, they will either come up with most ridiculous theories. Or simply keep away from threads.Mort Walker wrote:Should Killary win those on BRF will own it when US India relations go down the Pakistan.
I am not familiar with betting systems.
Before Sith takes over, let me post this once more :Dipanker wrote: I wouldn't call it dhimmification or begging, I would call it being wise by not making an enemy of person who we have no proof of that she has been an enemy in the past.
Rudradev wrote:
FWIW...
http://india-herald.com/indian-american ... 186-64.htm
The Clintons' Quarter-Century Record on India.
1991: Arkansas Governor and presidential candidate Bill Clinton delivers foreign policy speech and describes plans to interfere in “separatist efforts” in India and Yugoslavia .
1992: Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton promises during his presidential campaign that he will use Super 301, a law designed to impose trade sanctions impacting India
1992: US Trade Representative Carla Hills who turns out to be a Hillary Clinton supporter imposes trade sanctions on India under Super 301
1992: Joe Biden Amendment blocks sale of Russian Cryogenic engines to India
1993: Bill Clinton blocks sale of Cray Supercomputers to India
1993: Bill Clinton administration to sell Cray Supercomputer to China
1993: Bill Clinton supports terrorists in Punjab leading to protests in India outside US embassy (protests happened in early 1994 but support was in late 1993)
1993: Bill Clinton writes to Pakistan lobbyist and offers to work together on Kashmir
1993-94: Bill Clinton does not bother to appoint ambassador to India for more than a year in order to insult India
1994: Clinton’s close friend and Assistant Secretary of State Robin Raphel says Kashmir should not be part of India
1994: Bill Clinton supports Pakistan on Kashmir and accuses India of human rights violations
1994: Bill Clinton administration official sets fire to Indian skirt on TV and declares them a fire hazard hurting Indian textile sector and destroying livelihoods of millions of families who depend on the sector
1994: Bill Clinton targets Indian pharmaceutical industry for destruction by foisting TRIPS provisions as part of WTO
1994: Bill Clinton administration offers F-16 planes to Pakistan and Robin Raphel announces offer from Delhi
1994: Bill Clinton administration pursues carrot and stick policy (carrots for Pakistan, sticks for India): announces F-16s for Pakistan and threatens India with trade sanctions under Super 301
1995: Bill Clinton Appointee declares Indian scarves flammable and orders recall hurting Indian textile industry
1995: Bill Clinton administration foists bad Enron deal on India and forces Indian government to provide guarantees
1996: Bill Clinton sets up ‘Advisory Committee on Religious Freedom Abroad’ with aim of forcing Hindus in India to convert to Christianity and this Committee eventually recommends the creation of the hate group USCIRF
1997: Bill Clinton’s friend and Assistant Secretary of State Robin Raphel announces Clinton administration’s policy of opposing Russian collaboration with India for electricity generation and weapons of defense
1997: Bill Clinton’s Vice President Al Gore refers to Punjab as Khalistan
1998: Bill Clinton imposes sanctions on India
1998: Bill Clinton preaches to India on nuclear tests and simultaneously announces MFN status for China
1998: Bill Clinton’s Secretary of State Madeleine Albright spews vitriol on India and calls India’s actions “felony against the future.”
1999: Bill Clinton tries to impose stringent labor standards on India that would destroy Indian businesses and eliminate competition for Clinton’s cronies
2000: Bill Clinton administration interferes in India and organizes hearing on “human rights violations” based on fabrications about violations of religious freedom
2000: Bill Clinton visits Pakistan on India trip and thus equates India with Pakistan and confers legitimacy on Musharaff who took power in a coup
2001: Hillary Clinton does not oppose Senate vote to remove sanctions on Pakistan
2001: USCIRF, a hate group and creation of Bill Clinton administration, spews vitriol and stereotypes Hindus as “serious violators of religious freedom” and demands that US government ensure that [forced] conversions be permitted in India
2002: USCIRF, a hate group and a creation of Bill Clinton administration, attacks India and Hindus and uses terms like “communal violence” while blaming Hindus; it simultaneously praises Musharaff for curbing “violence in the name of religion” in Pakistan. Note the careful usage of words to describe religious violence in Pakistan.
2003: Democrat Tom Daschle appoints anti-Hindu zealot Preeta Bansal to USCIRF, the hate group created by the Clinton administration, and is cheered by anti-Hindu Christian activists including the violent terrorist Jayachand Pallekonda
2003: Hillary Clinton supporter and India baiter Madeleine Albright, who was Bill Clinton’s Secretary of State, calls for a plebiscite in Kashmir
2004: Hillary Clinton exhibits bigotry and claims Mahatma Gandhi ran a gas station in St. Louis
2005: Hillary Clinton causes outrage by calling for India to give up nuclear program and reconcile itself to non-proliferation treaty
2005: Bill Clinton calls for giving aid money to terror group LTTE
2006: Hillary Clinton who is part of the Senate India Caucus stabs India in the back and votes YEA on ‘killer amendment’ to bill in US Senate that deals with Indo-US Nuclear deal; the amendment is intended to kill the deal and set back Indo-US relations by 30 years
2007: Hillary Clinton booed when she defends Musharaff and attacks Senator Obama for saying he would attack Pakistan and take out Osama bin Laden
2007: Hillary Clinton’s fundraiser is organizer of LTTE Heroes Day which celebrates terrorists
2008: Hillary Clinton once again attacks Senator Obama for promising to act against Pakistan for supporting terrorists
2009: Hillary Clinton says she is proud to release report of anti-Hindu hate group USCIRF which was formed on the advice of a Committee consisting of Christians, Muslims and others but not Hindus (Click here to read about Hindus alone being excluded by Bill Clinton when the Office of Religious Freedom was created)
2009: Hillary Clinton backs talks with Taliban
2009-2012: Hillary Clinton carries on a get-Modi campaign against Narendra Modi
2012: Hillary Clinton declares ‘religious freedom,’ a euphemism for Christian proselytism (primarily in the Indian subcontinent), a foreign policy imperative
2013: Clinton Global Initiative partners with anti-Hindu evangelical Christian group World Vision
2014: Bill Clinton friend and former Assistant Secretary of State Robin Raphel investigated by FBI for spying for Pakistan
2015: Huma Abedin, a key member of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign is the daughter of a Pakistani mother and her father worked for an Islamist in Saudi Arabia with ties to Al Qaeda
2015: Hillary Clinton’s running mate, Christian missionary and India-baiter Tim Kaine admits Pakistan has connections to terror group LeT but praises Pakistan for fighting terrorists and advises India to have a better relationship with Pakistan
2016: Clinton Foundation donor linked to Pakistani arrested for corruption and harboring terrorists
2016: Hillary Clinton picks Hindu-baiter and India hater Tim Kaine as VP running mate.
Twitters users in Japan and across the US reported that the service was down on Monday morning, shortly after WikiLeaks claimed to have been the subject of a cyber-attack.
According to a Twitter status monitor, the outage began at around 6.45am GMT and continued for around half an hour, though reports suggested the impact varied from user to user.
Reports of the outage peaked at almost 14,000, according to Downdetector.com, which also suggested that many users were still experiencing problems in Japan more than a couple of hours later.
Twitter outages reported in Japan and across the US (Downdetector)
Twitter is yet to comment on the loss of service, and it has not been acknowledged via @twitter or @support.
But the incident came shortly after WikiLeaks posted a message to its Facebook account claiming an ongoing denial-of-service attack on its servers following reports of a brief outage
It said: "We are still under a DoS attack on our e-mail publication servers and it appears that Twitter is down as well, we are unable to confirm if this is an attack on twitter at this time."
Once they were able to get back on Twitter, some users were quick to link the two outages and the WikiLeaks release of a new set of hacked emails from the Democrat National Convention.
I think anybody (sane) who has been following BRF for some time or realpolitik will agree with what you are presenting as the most likely scenario of what will happen if the soulless genocidal ghoul becomes the presidentvijayk wrote:Unless hordes of white Democrats going inside booths and voting for DT after lying to pollsters, probability of DT's win is abysmally low.
There are 2 explanations: there is this secret base which does not wan to openly say they are voting for DT or overall polls are skewed to create environment for Clinton. Both are unproven and will be proved invalid tomorrow. I am ready to eat humble pie if I am proved wrong.
DT surrounds himself with people of Briebart and National Enquirer types. They all live in LA LA land.
Now when Hillary takes over, immediately our traitorous scam kuttas of Delhi, AAPtard kuttas and mostly filthy American $cum Indian Liberal arts filth will use same tactics as they used first to influence Obama. Hitler, Fascist, Communal crazy Modi needs to be contained/assasinated.
It is not just Hillary but it is all these think tanks especially Democratic ones populated by several filthy Asian $cum American Liberal RATS. This filth lives on left over crumbs
Obama did fall for to and behaved like an idiot in Delhi. The despicable fellow spit in his host's dinner plate.
But in the end moron realized Modi is more hard working and sincere than most of the filthy Liberal RATS that surrounds DC looking for garbage bags. He also needed Modi to sell his crap or contain China.
He backed OFF but as soon as Killary comes and elections start in 5 states and I am guaranteeing the following:
1. There will be a co-ordinated Xians/Muslims under attack by rNDTV and AAP Kutta CrazyMadDog. He has been looking for dead bodies all over to scavenge and prey upon. Najib of JNU will be first victim in their murderous campaign. I heard he has been sent to Nepal.
2. As we all know trashy NYT/WaPo will give their hand to this campaign.
3. Soon human garbage of S Asian Liberal RATS led by Nobel Economist will jump in
4. There will be another PRESS freedom under attack and Award Wapasi drama
My only concern is MAD is so ill prepared and have no clue. Probably Arnab will spread his tentacles all over to fight the filth. But we need to see how the coming declaration of war by Killary will be tackled.
Update - Miami-Dade set both a single day early voting record (Sunday) and an all time early-voting record with more than 763,000 people choosing to vote early as of official close of early voting on Sunday night. Thats +338,000 (80% increase) from 2012 levels with 102% increase in in-preson early voting. Obama won this county by a margin of 23%. Between Broward and Miami-Dade Obama built a net 471,873 vote firewall against Romney..Expect that to be at a minimum 15-20% higher this time around. That is the gap trump needs to cover in North Florida. Overall the percentage of registered white voters is down 2% in FL compared to 2012, so he has to drive more out while also hopking that he polls better with them than he does nationally when it comes to those with a college degree and women.brar_w wrote:Final Florida early voting and EVM (Mailed ballots keep coming in through Tuesday) numbers for Hispanics are still coming in, but based on partial Sunday numbers - 907,000* voted early or through mail. Roughly 326,000 (36%) of these did not vote early, through mail or on election day in 2012. In 2012 the total Hispanic turnout was 1.06 million (less than half voted early) of the roughly 1.6 Million eligible to vote. This time between 1.8 and 2 million are registered to vote. It remains to be seen what the turnout is on election day but it should be pretty safe to assume that between 1.2 million and 1.5 (20-50% more than 2012) million hispanics will vote in Florida when all of this is said and done.
As I had mentioned earlier, Florida Hispanic population (including Cuban Americans) split 60:39** in favor of Obama in 2012. In 2008 it was 57:42 in favor of Obama. Hispanics in Florida generally tend to vote republican at much higher levels than elsewhere in the US. However, the Hispanic vote share of the Democrats in the state has been steadily climbing and set a new record in 2012. Recent survey's have suggested a repeat of 2012 numbers with the democrats splitting the Hispanic vote 60:37. While Florida will be darn close as always and it all matters on how the and where the White vote comes from if the hispanic turnout is at or above the 1.2 million level it will a strong firewall for democrats. If it is close to 1.5 million I can even see a situation where the Republican senatorial candidate outperforms their presidential nominee, at least in 2 of the most populous counties in the state since he polls better than Trump even though he too is loosing the hispanic polls in the state (though by much smaller margins).
* Final Sunday numbers should be available later in the day but given that 3-4 of Florida's counties set single day early voting records yesterday actual 2016 EV numbers could exceed total EV+ED voting numbers for hispanics in 2012. That would be YUUUGGGEEEE!
** PEW
Its quite clear that the US gets screwed either way even if the only thing one looks at is how unfavorably each candidate is viewed across all demographics. The real fight is to see whether there will be a legitimate 2 party system left at the Presidential level, since one party is stuck fighting elections as if this was still the 1980's while the other party can keep pushing unpopular candidates because their opponent keeps handing gift-wrapped elections to them.Lalmohan wrote:seems to me that both the pro-cheeto and pro-hillbilly camps on this dhaga are off their heads...
looking from the outside in, the trump option is worse than the Hillary option from every angle - neither gives a rat's mush about india and apart from vote banks, one hates NRI's the other doesn't really care much
NRI's voting should do so on the basis for what it will mean for their lives and their children's living in massa, not for what it might mean for india. in the trump option, I can see many many scenarios where it gets worse for india by default. it definitely gets worse for NRI's
still - you guys have a good time!
Will agree with this one for sure.Dinesh S wrote: After all, the body count of Commie /left wing cabal is unmatched even by Xtians or Muslims, least of all Nazis. But the worrying thing is, it is highly frowned upon to be identified as a Nazi while these morally bankrupt sad excuse of human existences can proudly identify as Marxists/socialists etc with no problem and claim to be morally superior. ...............
I notice that Churchill is left out.Primus wrote: From Table 1.4, page 8 "This Century's Bloodiest Megamurderers"
Numbers are in millions (rounded)
Joseph Stalin: 42.7
Mao Tse-Tung: 37.8
Adolf Hitler: 20.9
Chiang Kai-shek: 10.2
Vladimir Illich Lenin: 4.0
Tojo Hideki: 3.99
Pol Pot: 2.4
Yahya Khan: 1.5
Josip Tito: 1.17
Donald Trump’s campaign has always understood that Florida is key to his electoral chances. At Trump’s data headquarters in San Antonio, staffers run daily simulations that weight and rank the importance of each state to building a path to 270 electoral votes. Florida is invariably on top. And within Florida, Trump’s analysts have pinpointed the area that’s most critical of all.
Miami-Dade County is the most important county in the country for Trump's chances, according to a campaign official familiar with the simulations.
Brad Parscale, Trump’s digital director, prefers the slightly broader measure of “designated market area,” but agrees Miami-Dade is “the most important DMA”—ground zero for the Trump campaign. “When I speak of importance,” Parscale said, “I am stating that we have large numbers of persuadable” voters there.
For weeks, both campaigns have fixated on the question of whether Miamians would turn out in force to vote—and, if so, who they’d vote for. The first question has already been answered with a resounding yes. Florida has seen a surge of early voting.
“It’s been just massive,” said University of Florida political scientist Daniel A. Smith. Whether Trump can win over enough voters in Miami-Dade is another question. Nothing will be settled until Election Day. But a study of Miami-Dade’s early voters that Smith conducted for Bloomberg Businessweek suggests Clinton is poised to benefit from an unprecedented surge of Hispanic voters.
There are 1.5 million registered voters in Miami-Dade county (56 percent of whom are Hispanic), including nearly 30,000 added during a last-minute voter-registration drive in October, after Democratic Party officials went to court to extend the deadline in the wake of Hurricane Matthew. Through Saturday, according to Smith, 707,844 county residents had already voted: 44 percent were Democrats, 30 percent Republican, and 25 percent had “no party affiliation," a group that tends to skew younger and Hispanic, and thus toward Clinton. The demographic mix of early voters also looks highly favorable to Clinton: 58 percent Hispanic, 17 percent African-American and 20 percent white.
But the late registrants, Smith says, give the clearest indication that sentiment in Miami-Dade is running strongly against Trump. Of the 29,657 voters who registered last month, 41 percent are Democrats, 44 percent are unaffiliated, and only 12.5 percent are Republicans. “That’s nuts,” said Smith. “These are the barometers that indicate the hostility toward the GOP candidate.”
Back in mid-October, Trump’s data officials noticed that African-American turnout in Miami-Dade was lagging behind its 2012 pace, a potentially worrisome sign for Clinton.
Trump’s campaign has directed targeted ads at African-American voters in the Little Haiti section of the county to depress enthusiasm for Clinton. But in recent days, turnout has picked up. “It doesn’t appear that black turnout is underperforming,” said Smith, who noted that Sunday, Nov. 6—for which data is not yet available—was likely to be the biggest voting day yet for African-American voters.
An important question about the surge of early votes is whether the increased numbers represents new voters or merely “cannibalizes” the votes of people who would have turned up at the polls anyway on Election Day. To find the answer, Smith used a database he’s built to compare this year’s early voters against a list of people who voted in 2012. His conclusion: hundreds of thousands of new black and Hispanic voters are casting ballots, an ominous sign for Trump. “Of the 707,844 voters in Miami-Dade, 201,000 did not vote in 2012—and 127,000 of them are Hispanic,” he says. “Hispanic voters are over-performing their share of the electorate.”
Among the 117,000 African Americans who voted early, 22,500 didn’t vote in 2012. “Basically, one in five blacks and one in three Hispanics didn’t vote in 2012 in Miami-Dade and have already cast a ballot,” said Smith. “I have a hard time believing that many of these first-time voters are in the Trump camp after his scorched earth campaign against immigrants and, specifically, Hispanics.”
Broadening the lens to Miami’s designated market area (which includes Broward and Monroe counties) doesn’t improve Trump’s performance. Of the area’s 1.3 million early voters, nearly 351,000 did not vote in 2012—and 47 percent are Hispanic. “The numbers are even worse for Trump,” said Smith.
Still, the Trump campaign is hoping that come Election Day, the profile of the voters who turn up at the polls will be more favorable to their candidate, enough to tilt this pivotal state into the Trump column. "It will be close," Parscale said. But even he can’t know for sure. “It’s like predicting your wife’s mood. You have no idea what you’re going to get until you get home.”
Ah! Let UBCNews explain as a Public Service.What does it mean?
HRC wins = If you bet 5 dollars you get 1 dollar?
Trmp wins = If you bet 1 dollar you get 4 dollars?
Yup. I have a feeling that the hordes rushing in to vote after hours in Nevada and FL were using credentials supplied by the State Department - but not from their official passport and Naturalization Certificate printing presses. Probably from a printer tied to Humbedin's laptop computer in the New York Apartment.An important question about the surge of early votes is whether the increased numbers represents new voters or merely “cannibalizes” the votes of people who would have turned up at the polls anyway on Election Day.
The first US Election won by Mexicans. Long wait since The Alamo, hain?Hurry Up!!! Why is this line moving so slowly? We would like to go home by midnight! Why are you looking at voters' ID cards and Naturalization Certificates like you've never seen them before? Are you some kind of Republican Racist?
If that is true, Trump should be getting approximately 78% of the total Hispanic vote (as per Walker saab). It would also mean that his candidacy is driving hispanic turnout at record numbers (subscribing to the same narrative this would mean they are comming in droves to elect him) since a lot of these folks sat out in 2012. Must be the Taco Bowl !
Waah what sanctimonious post. No reason given on why Trump will be worse.Lalmohan wrote:
NRI's voting should do so on the basis for what it will mean for their lives and their children's living in massa, not for what it might mean for india. in the trump option, I can see many many scenarios where it gets worse for india by default. !
Lalmohan wrote:seems to me that both the pro-cheeto and pro-hillbilly camps on this dhaga are off their heads...
looking from the outside in, the trump option is worse than the Hillary option from every angle - neither gives a rat's mush about india and apart from vote banks, one hates NRI's the other doesn't really care much
NRI's voting should do so on the basis for what it will mean for their lives and their children's living in massa, not for what it might mean for india. in the trump option, I can see many many scenarios where it gets worse for india by default. it definitely gets worse for NRI's
still - you guys have a good time!
Sorry to nitpick but the arithmetic seems a little off to me. You know Chiang Kai-shek & Tojo Hideki were nationalists right?Primus wrote:Joseph Stalin: 42.7
Mao Tse-Tung: 37.8
Adolf Hitler: 20.9
Chiang Kai-shek: 10.2
Vladimir Illich Lenin: 4.0
Tojo Hideki: 3.99
Pol Pot: 2.4
Yahya Khan: 1.5
Josip Tito: 1.17
From the above, it is evident that the commies killed almost 100 million people in the 20th century, most of them their own citizens. Pol Pot was the worst in terms of percentage, killing 8% of the population per year. Yet leftists are not just quiet on this but idolize the perpetrators as their heroes.
So weird. Almost as if Hispanics didn't appreciate being called criminals, drug dealers & rapists.brar_w wrote:Bloomberg's catching on to the high Miami-Dade Hispanic turnout and high turnout in general -
In Trump’s Most Important County, a Surge of Hispanic Voters
Nitpick. 'Coba' aka Stalin was a nationalist too, and a psychopath. So was ch000thchillViv S wrote:Sorry to nitpick but the arithmetic seems a little off to me. You know Chiang Kai-shek & Tojo Hideki were nationalists right?
Shhhhh. Trump is going to double Romney's Hispanic numbers..Romney was at 27%, Trump should be right around 54%So weird. Almost as if Hispanics didn't appreciate being called criminals, drug dealers & rapists.
. If he isn't it will all be rigged 
It works like this.Manish_Sharma wrote:I am not familiar with betting systems.
What does it mean?
HRC wins = If you bet 5 dollars you get 1 dollar?
Trmp wins = If you bet 1 dollar you get 4 dollars?
Use a different User ID/ browser/ computer each time.Vote Early. Vote Often
. But People are also saying that Trump would double Romney's #'s with hispanics which should put him at 54% nationally and a jaw-dropping 78% in Florida. Trump needs more Hispanics to come out or each to vote 20 time That is certainly a possibility but would be entirely the making of Trump. All the GOP had to do was improve Romney's numbers with hispanics from 39% to say 42% and Florida would have been won since the AA community is not expected to come out in the sort of numbers they came out for Obama. Even though the thought looks/sounds scary even Crazy Cruz could have managed that bouncing his father across the state channeling his inner jesus. As things are looking that 39% is likely to be closer to 30-35%.If the Latino vote is a bloc vote and the whites and AA are split, seems like a powerful Latino wave is on the way. From what little I can imagine of the dynamics, the white (majority still?) should get their undies seriously in a knot about this development.
While he had no qualms about employing nationalist themes for propaganda 1941-45, Stalin was actually an ethnic Georgian (born Iosef Dzugashvili) not a Russian.LokeshC wrote:Nitpick. 'Coba' aka Stalin was a nationalist too, and a psychopath. So was ch000thchill
dead donkey, braying donkey...fact is, she has Indian descent. Whether that means she cannot be anti-Indian or not is not an argument I am making.Rudradev wrote:As I recall, the "argument" advanced by our Clintonistas was fairly typical: Hindu Americans should not call out Huma Abedin on her Paki and Saudi connections, but rather stay dhimmified in the hope of getting on her good side, because after all she is "1/2 Indian" (sic). It was not specified whether this was supposed to mean 1/2 Indian citizenship or 1/2 Indian descent.
*cutting out irrelevant stuff*
End of argument, until you saw fit to flog that poor dead Donkey once again... but don't let me interrupt your efforts
If she tweets to Sushma Aunty, she might even get a waiverA foreign national, - (i) who was a citizen of India at the time of, or at any time after 26th January, 1950; or (ii) who was eligible to become a citizen of India on 26th January, 1950; or (iii) who belonged to a territory that became part of India after 15th August, 1947; or (iv) who is a child or a grandchild or a great grandchild of such a citizen; or (v) who is a minor child of such persons mentioned above; or (vi) who is a minor child and whose both parents are citizens of India or one of the parents is a citizen of India - is eligible for registration as OCI cardholder.
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However, no person, who or either of whose parents or grandparents or great grandparents is or had been a citizen of Pakistan, Bangladesh or such other country as the Central Government may, by notification in the Official Gazette, specify, shall be eligible for registration as an Overseas Citizen of India Cardholder.
Aren't you letting your impatience get in the way of thinking through your chain of arguments?I appreciate your pointing us to the conclusion that India allows "dual citizenship" to born US citizens, by the way... hadn't noticed this on the MEA website. You learn something new from Killary's fact-checkers every day
