Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Najunamar » 10 Nov 2016 07:06

Raja Nose gaaru, I also voted for Trump despite knowing it amounted to diddly squat in the People's Republic of California. More like a ABH (anybody but Hillary) vote. I'm so far stunned by the libtards' vituperative and rants on NPR and other places. Very Happy that the snakes will be somewhat defamed (hope).

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Marten » 10 Nov 2016 07:08

Ramanaji, the strategy for Gore was not bad. He was just too smug about the NE states. A simple victory in NH would have changed his fortunes. It was a matter of hardly 8,000 votes. The Indian community in Nashua alone would have changed that situation.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Singha » 10 Nov 2016 07:17

Southern democract is not a strategy its merely a admission that since jfk no ne democrat has gain traction in southern heartlands. Even any dem can win ca and north east but real battles are in south and great lakes. Trump won all there except ohio.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby vnms » 10 Nov 2016 07:21

Was rooting for DT. I've been having n US for more than years with no green card in sight. Refuse support a party that would grant GCs to illegals before legals get it.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby ramana » 10 Nov 2016 07:30

Feel sorry for HRC now. Ombaba gave a speech alongside Biden where he roots for DT!!!
And gives advice to the young people who put their trust in Democrat campaign.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby ramana » 10 Nov 2016 07:33

UB, Shiv and Philip, In EU both France and Germany will be going for lections soon. Should we have an International Elections thread to focus on outcomes of importance to India?

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Primus » 10 Nov 2016 07:33

KJo wrote:............... Muslims seem to expect people to welcome them in non-Muslim countries, but look the other way in demanding this in Islamic countries.


When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.


Frank Herbert in 'Dune'.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby krisna » 10 Nov 2016 07:36

Dipanker wrote:Given the closeness of the result in the rust belt battleground states I will credit this Republican victory to Comey. In the October 31st to Nov 5 period Hillary went down from a very comfortable 7+% lead to a precarious 2.7% and could bounce back only to about 3.9% in the remaining 2 days because there was not enough time. This drop cost her the close races in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, (and Michigan), supposedly her "fireball" states she was so sure to win that did not pay enough attention and reacted too late.


Turns out the national polls were not too off the mark, by the time all votes are counted Hillary should still win the popular vote by over a million or so, a repeat of 2000 when Gore won the popular vote, but election was stolen by SC Rehnquist and the gang, Comey is the culprit this time.



The real culrpit which killary supporters inlcuding media are hiding is the obama care.
The next year stuff came to many americans on nov 1 onwards .
There has been upto 25% increase in premiums.
many americans are grumbling --> it hits right into the pockets of every american. This is very basic health issue.

Americnas dont care about comey or his antics if their stomach is hit badly.

No wonder trumpazee was onto obamacare which resonated across many states in middle america.

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comey antics are so so . no ned to give too much importance. it is only to unbalance killary campaign.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby UlanBatori » 10 Nov 2016 07:41

I don't know how to broach this subject, but the real game-changer would be to improve engagement with the Zee administration by Yindoo jingos. This is a totally unprecedented opportunity. Issues ranging from immigration, business, technology, energy, terror, consistency in foreign policy. For instance, I wonder how many in the Transition Team have a clue that a Foreign Policy Manifesto that presumes to advise, say, India on Religious Freedom, or Russia on how their President and Intelligence Service should behave - is likely to needlessly irritate people. Especially coming from a gang that declared that it is willing to ban ppl of One Community entirely from the USA, and a build a Wall. Also from anyone who calls KSA and TSP Al-Lies. Prioritizing fast-track Green Cards for, say, STEM PhDs would probably help the USA far more than it would hurt anyone. Fast-track Green Cards for business creators is probably a good idea. Majority concerns about subversive minorities. And cross-border criminal infiltration. The plain unavoidable fact that there ***IS*** today a clear pattern in certain particular subsects of certain communities of Violent Medieval Religious Insanity over national or human civilization, are common to both the USA and India. But that needs to be refined in nuance, very carefully, to survive the tsunami of assaults from the MSM - many of which stem from genuine concern about Constitutional fundamental rights. I think Arvind Kumar's PA event was a historic one. Note that DT won PA unexpectedly. OK, time to duck for cover.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby ramana » 10 Nov 2016 07:46

Krishna, Also co pay went from $300 to $3000 in some cases. Tuesday NPR discussion was on that.

Obama Care (OC) avg increase was 25% in some states it was 33%.

Essentially they did a low price to get all the people to sign up and then raised the premiums claiming that the young did not sign up.
Young don't have jobs to pay for it. How will they pay? And send threatening letters for sign up with unyielding bureaucrats.

One hakim was saying about 50 to 60 million subscribers in Obama Care and its quite large by European standards and would drive medical care standards in a Gresham's Law perverse way.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby MurthyB » 10 Nov 2016 07:55

I don't know how to broach this subject, but the real game-changer would be to improve engagement with the Zee administration by Yindoo jingos. This is a totally unprecedented opportunity.


Agree. We have first mover advantage here. Hopefully Shalabh Kumar who organized the Trump rally in NJ is aware of these issues and has Trump's ear. Anyone know what this gent is like? He is close to Newt Gingrich as well.

http://www.rhcusa.com/

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Singha » 10 Nov 2016 07:58

Betrayal of hillary by deep state is complete. Wall street did not crash and upticked slightly.

Perhaps two factions the anglo zionist nyc group and the southern midwest resources play group had a fallout and the second group got players in pentagon fbi and wall Street onto their project as well

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby UlanBatori » 10 Nov 2016 08:05

Wall Street didn't crash because TSJi put in a Quantitative Easing and bought up defence and financial stocks. May come sliding back down tomorrow when reality hits.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby chanakyaa » 10 Nov 2016 08:08

Although Wall Street did not go down, some in Oakland, California are down with rage..

Anger Over Trump Explodes; Protesters Set Fires, Smash Glass

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby BajKhedawal » 10 Nov 2016 08:14

Where is the 93% desi voters democrat coming from?

I am not eligible to vote, but 4 family members in a very blue east coast state voted for DT knowing full well the futility of voting red in a blue state; as did many other BR forumites.

That percentage of DT voters surely has to be more than 50% going by geopolitical awareness of the modibhakts on east coast.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby vera_k » 10 Nov 2016 08:18

krisna wrote:Americnas dont care about comey or his antics if their stomach is hit badly.
comey antics are so so . no ned to give too much importance. it is only to unbalance killary campaign.


Think the FBI chief just wanted to be on the right side of the incoming administration. As an intelligence agency, they would have known what was up ...

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby UlanBatori » 10 Nov 2016 08:22

I don't see how Comey is on the right side of anyone. The Trump sites said FreeBiscuit rank and file were ready to revolt, so Comey was doing the absolute minimum to placate them. He had no intention of filing charges - his bosses the Justice Dept had already nixed that. What he said was "no REASONABLE prosecutor would file charges". As in "One Who Wants to Keep Being a Prosecutor Under Obama". Now he cannot U-turn again, so he must leave b4 they can proceed.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby vera_k » 10 Nov 2016 08:25

They can find him another job. Even that might not be necessary if the president pardons HRC.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Raja Bose » 10 Nov 2016 08:29

UB ji, better us lining up at concentration camps than Killary going after India. :lol:

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Postby UlanBatori » 10 Nov 2016 08:43

Spk 4 urself, I feel no such herrowism. :( Reading reactions in India, one almost feels like they need a good sharp lesson there.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby sum » 10 Nov 2016 08:45

chanakyaa wrote:Although Wall Street did not go down, some in Oakland, California are down with rage..

Anger Over Trump Explodes; Protesters Set Fires, Smash Glass

Atleast India was better in this regard.

Despite the severe ( and almost mind-numbing) hatred which certain folks and communities had for Modi, everyone shut their holes and slinked away into their corners once the mandate was known. No display of such "liberal tolerance" like in the great Amrika.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Raja Bose » 10 Nov 2016 08:48

UlanBatori wrote:Spk 4 urself, I feel no such herrowism. :( Reading reactions in India, one almost feels like they need a good sharp lesson there.


In which case better to buy some medieval iron maiden haute couture chaddis. :mrgreen:

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby habal » 10 Nov 2016 08:54

Raja Bose wrote:UB ji, better us lining up at concentration camps than Killary going after India. :lol:


spoken like a true jingo, even if in jest.
respect !

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Rammpal » 10 Nov 2016 09:21

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... egulations

"..Icahn, a backer of Trump, has called trading of Renewable Identification Numbers, or RINs, which requires refiners to buy credits to meet biofuel blending requirements, a "rigged" marketplace. The current system has added hundreds of millions of dollars in costs to refiners that don’t own retail arms. There’s also been allegations of malfeasance..."

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Yagnasri » 10 Nov 2016 09:53

Statement of Michel Moore about what will happen on the election day.

"Whether Trump means it or not (his threat to corporate America for outsourcing jobs and promises to bring it back) is kind of irrelevant because he's saying the things to people who are hurting. And it's why every beaten-down, nameless, forgotten working stiff who used to be part of what was called the middle class loves Trump. He is the human Molotov cocktail that they've been waiting for. The human hand grenade that they can legally throw into the system that stole their lives from them. And on November 8th, Election Day - although they've lost their jobs, although they've been foreclosed on by the bank, next came the divorce and now the wife and kids are gone, the car has been repo'd, they haven't had a real vacation in years, they're stuck with the s***** Obamacare Bronze plan where you can't even get a f****** Percocet - they've essentially lost everything they had. Except one thing. The one thing that doesn't cost them a cent and is guaranteed to them by the American Constitution: the right to vote. They might be penniless. They might be homeless. They might be f***** over and f***** up. It doesn't matter. Because it's equalized on that day. A millionaire has the same number of votes as the person without a job - one. And there's more of a former middle class than there are in the millionaire class.
So on November 8th, the dispossessed will walk into the voting booth, be handed a ballot, close the curtain and take that lever, or felt pen, or touch screen and put a big f****** X in the box by the name of the man who has threatened to upend and overturn the very system that has ruined their lives. Donald J Trump. They see that the elites, who ruined their lives, hate Trump. Corporate America hates Trump. Wall Street hates Trump. The career politicians hate Trump. The media hate Trump - after they loved him and created him and now hate him. Thank you, media. The enemy of my enemy is who I'm voting for on November 8th.
Yes, on November 8th, you, Joe Blow, Steve Blow, Bob Blow, Bill Blow, Billy Bob Blow, all the Blows - get to go and blow up the whole God damn system because it's your right. Trump's election is going to be the biggest f*** you ever recorded in human history. And it will feel good (for them)."

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Postby shravanp » 10 Nov 2016 10:00

Primus wrote:
KJo wrote:............... Muslims seem to expect people to welcome them in non-Muslim countries, but look the other way in demanding this in Islamic countries.


When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.


Frank Herbert in 'Dune'.


That summarizes history of India. Be it Muslim or Portuguese invasions.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Rishi Verma » 10 Nov 2016 10:20

Rudy seems to be a hot fav for sec. of def. He should remember the paki mofo who "masterminded" the 9/11 and the paki idiot who left his car with smoke and wires sticking out in the middle of a busy junction in manhatten then got caught on the airplane trying to flee. With Christie and his hindu vote bank one thing is for sure. Pakis can kiss their aid and f-16s goodbye. We should monitor Obama that he doesn't give away freebies under paki blackmail in the next two months.

One can imagine Trumps expression when he gets the first bill from jernails for Coagulation Support Fund.

The jernails will want the funds coming, they will offer to "re-open" the air base for drone operations, they will offer to hand over Chinese secrets to the CIA etc etc. I hope Trump won't be fooled by paki double deals.

All modi has to do is to keep raising the temperature on Bakis until they go more irrational and threaten to donate the bum to the beards. Then it becomes everyone's game.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby vina » 10 Nov 2016 10:20

Marten wrote:Ramanaji, the strategy for Gore was not bad. He was just too smug about the NE states. A simple victory in NH would have changed his fortunes. It was a matter of hardly 8,000 votes. The Indian community in Nashua alone would have changed that situation.

That Buffoon couldnt carry even his home state Tennessee! The Gorilla from the local zoo in his place would have won over GW Bush.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby habal » 10 Nov 2016 10:20

Rigging election machines:

Election machines can not be rigged en masse. Rigging has to be done in certain strategic swing booths, and then hope for best results. But when there is a wave, then concept of swing booths do not exist. You pick up EVM after EVM it will give same result thus decimating & overwhelming the rigged EVMs strategically placed.

In reality, if the elections are really close, then these swing constituencies in swing states matter a lot. Not when one is seeing a landslide verdict dished out. So we have no way of knowing whether reason behind Hillary getting as many votes as she has now was result of rigging. And Trump won inspite of rigging.

Like what happened in GE2014 in UP, they counted polling booth after polling booth, it was only Lotus. You do know how RG won his Amethi election.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby vina » 10 Nov 2016 10:23

UlanBatori wrote:All you ppl writing long :(( starting with "I didn't vote for Trump because...." I have just one thing to say: :rotfl:

U have to do ur homework BEFORE you vote, if u want to be "In Tune With the HeartBeat of America" and strut around feeling so. My 6th coujin thrice removed did. EV'ed DT and the local KKK/Hitler Jugend candidates 2 weeks b4 the election. All won. Q.E.D.
Only remaining issue is whether all the taxes that he voted down, crashed. TSPLOST, PSPLORET, all scams.

But hey! It was great fun reading all the long rants of the HiCFans. Sorree onlee, I really feel 4 u (4 a microsecond b4 I go back to :rotfl: ) You choose a biss-boor candidate. In the end it was sheer "By The Grace of ATM" that DT won despite being 0.2% behind in the total popular vote.

Satyam Eva Jayate. Not that the Hitler Jugend would recognize Satyam, but the hyena HiC thoroughly deserved that LossDespite0.2%Win result, after what she did to poor Bernie Sanders. Now she has all the rest of her life to relive every moment of that. So close, yet sooooooo far. She should have been more honest during the Debates.


You are right. Thank GOD that Trump is such a clumsy clown. A half way smart guy who knew how to hold his tongue and be a little more polished and we would have seen a crowd of elephants like in the Mysore Dusshera or Trishoor Pooram rampaging wild in the Senate and the House, running amuck . Those wing nuts would have been absolutely bonkers if they had the strength to convene another constitutional assembly.

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Postby Yayavar » 10 Nov 2016 10:26

^^like i said it is only Trump who won. Republicans and Democrats lost.
Hopefully the nasties he encouraged are curtailed - his speech was conciliatory - and dont wreak ire on non-goras and chasma-wallahs (since they are ejucated)...

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Postby vina » 10 Nov 2016 10:26

MurthyB wrote:Pramila Jayapal is a social justice warrior who founded "safe zones" for "people of color" (read Muslims) after 9/11, and fought the Bush administration on deporting Somalis.

Saw in today's AL-Hundi that her parents live in Bangalore and that she is a regular visitor here. Seems like another clue less tilting at the windmills self righteous (and basically dishonest to claim "colour', I would put Kamala Harris and even OBL in that category, their history is NOT the same as the deep multi generational suffering of African Americans) JNU type whack job.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Skanda » 10 Nov 2016 10:29

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Anit Trump protests in SF this evening. About 500 folks easily. Teens and Youth mostly.

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Postby habal » 10 Nov 2016 10:29

Trump could have gone into great detail and depth of Hillary's malfeasance, her celebrations after Gaddafi's murder.

but Trump didn't do any of that sort. A siimpler soul would have definitely picked up these points and highlighted them. What this tells me is even in jaw-jaw Trump is playing it safe from annoying people who really matter in USA.

So that is definitely not clumsy. And he is not clowning around, he is using his limited talking points in a free way which seems clumsy, but he is a practiced artiste who will not trip when delivering those lines like mere mortals often do.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Skanda » 10 Nov 2016 10:41

krisna wrote:
The real culrpit which killary supporters inlcuding media are hiding is the obama care.


Obamacare had become a headache for hospitals too. Most hospitals had very little success in extracting the money from individuals when the insurance paid partial amount. Lets face it, Obamacare is predominantly used by folks who have very little earnings and in order to keep premiums low, they had enormous deductibles.

No on DC thought, how will folks who are struggling to pay premiums would pay deductibles. It was left upon Hospitals and Clinics to collect the money from the patients, once Insurance had paid their part.

Added: Ramana makes a similar point.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Raja Bose » 10 Nov 2016 10:49

OK irony of ironies....the Jacob Javits center where all Killary supporters gathered to follow the results is built on land sold by.....Trump. :rotfl:

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Gus » 10 Nov 2016 10:54

UlanBatori wrote:Issues ranging from immigration, business, technology, energy, terror, consistency in foreign policy..... OK, time to duck for cover.


Well you asked for him and now you are hoping that the unknown god turns out to be benign instead of being worse than the known devil. :lol:

I sure hope so as well as we saw from W , the damage potential the prez wields.

He is not beholden to anybody except his core group that were loyal to him when all else balked or deserted. Remains to be seen how policy is influenced by that group.

Real positive change is tremendously slow and painstakingly hard work with laser focus etc - we see that in Modi and how much thought and work he puts in to drive change from top down.

Negative change can come so fast and so quick...ducking for cover won't be enough..

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby habal » 10 Nov 2016 10:54

the tale of 2 polls.

Alex Jones went as far as saying even after they biased the polls by > -10% Trump was eventually winning by < 10% even then.

this gives me the feeling, the pollsters make 2 polls from same sample. One they oversample and make the polls public.

the other poll, which is far more indicative is not based on oversampling but the result of that poll are kept private or send to dems themselves for internal circulation.

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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Postby Arjun » 10 Nov 2016 11:00

As expected, "liberals" from Berkeley and across the US declare Trump "not my President", do not accept democratic election results, start vandalizing property and get into rage-boy mode. No difference between these Berkeley morons and this idiot:

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