Understanding the United States of America (USA) - IV

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 19 Nov 2016 11:22

Mort Walker wrote:
Dipanker wrote:^
Basic math should tell you that 2% shift in 11% Latino population, or a 5% shift in 12% Black population is orders of magnitude smaller than a 5% shift in 70% of the white population when total caste votes are ~131 million.

What is true though that a 2% shift in Latino vote, or a 5% shift in Black vote alone was sufficient to be responsible for Hillary's loss given that the total vote difference in 13 of the swing state was about 80,000 votes!

A 5% shift in white votes who are 70% of the population roughly translates to ~4.5 million additional white votes, I am not surprised if it is being labeled as WHITELASH.

7% Indian American does not mean 7% Asian.
Wrong again.

There wasn't a +5% shift in white votes. It was a +1% shift of whites by race. There was +5% shift by males. To blame this on blacks not voting is a bunch of crap as they still voted heavily in favor of HRC. The black vote was however +7% for DT.

Oops..my bad this time, I will accept that. The posted link above talked about less than 5% shift in white votes and I used the 5% number hurriedly for some quick back of the envelope calculation, turns out the actual shift is much less as you point out.

5% shift in male vote definitely explains at least where some of the democrat missing millennials went.

I personally think the missing millennials are much more responsible as they are missing by the millions than 5% blacks or 2% latino and I wouldn't blame them.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 19 Nov 2016 12:16

Per twitter, Dems asking Trump to consider HRC for UN ambassador post!

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 19 Nov 2016 16:54

UN ambassador is so she can claim asylum in the UN bldg when her passport is cancelled. Shall we start a campaign/Petition for HiC as Ambassador to Somalia? Maybe Syria? Libya? Or... hey, why not Qatar?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Nov 2016 16:56

That is madness .... why should TrumpZee accommodate HRC? Let her stick to her speaking circuit.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 19 Nov 2016 17:03

CNN:

Donald Trump has agreed to pay $25 million to settle three lawsuits against Trump University.

The deal will keep the president-elect from having to testify in a trial in San Diego that was set to begin November 28.
The settlement ends a suit brought by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, as well as two class action suits in California.
About 6,000 former students are covered by the settlement. The victims will receive at least half of their money back, said plaintiff attorney Jason Forge at a court hearing Friday.
About $21 million will go to settle the class-action suits and $4 million will cover the victims of the suit brought by Schneiderman, Forge said. The attorneys waived all fees.
"We are pleased to announce the complete resolution of all litigation involving Trump University," a Trump Organization spokesperson said.
"While we have no doubt that Trump University would have prevailed at trial based on the merits of this case, resolution of these matters allows President-Elect Trump to devote his full attention to the important issues facing our great nation."
Trump did not acknowledge any liability in the settlement.
Trump University is the defunct, for-profit real estate seminar business Trump created in 2005. It promised to teach students investing techniques they could use to get rich on real estate, just like Trump.
It advertised that instructors were hand-picked by the mogul himself, but former students claimed that wasn't true. In fact, Trump has suggested under oath that he was not very involved in hiring instructors, despite what the promotional materials suggested.
Some students ended up paying tens of thousands of dollars. While the initial Trump University seminar was free, teachers would then upsell them for another program. A "one year apprenticeship," which was effectively a three-day seminar, cost $1,495, according to court documents. A "mentorship" cost at least $10,000 and the most expensive, the Gold Elite program, cost $35,000.
The settlement is a complete turnaround from Trump's earlier position on the lawsuits.
"This is a case I could have settled very easily, but I don't settle cases very easily when I'm right," he said in March.
But since Trump was elected, U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel urged the parties to settle the case to avoid the immense complications of a president-elect facing trial while preparing to take office.
Last week, one of Trump's attorneys indicated that he might change his position on settling.
Schneiderman said Friday that he was pleased with the terms of the settlement. He first filed the suit in 2013.
"The victims of Trump University have waited years for today's result and I am pleased that their patience -- and persistence -- will be rewarded by this $25 million settlement," he said in a statement.
CNN's Paul Vercammen contributed to this story.
CNNMoney (San Diego) First published November 18, 2016: 3:38 PM ET

Having a lot of money enables some freedoms. His position made sense: Settling b4 winning the election would have played into the HiC gang's hands. Now it's just money. His stocks have probably gone up by 2.5 billion.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 19 Nov 2016 17:04

pankajs wrote:That is madness .... why should TrumpZee accommodate HRC? Let her stick to her speaking circuit.

Think of HiC taking orders from Bannon, Priebus etc

No more Dawnaaald this and Dawnaald that, sneering. It will be all

President Trump, Sir! May I kiss ur ***, Ssir?

Besides, begging to become UN Amby is a HUUUUUGE comedown for someone who was SoS, hain? Maybe she can be Pedestrian Crossing Guard in front of the WHOTUS, after all she wanted to be there, hain? In February and in July?

bharotshontan · Post by **bharotshontan** » 19 Nov 2016 18:00

With missing turnout, talk of "shift" in vote is misleading. If tomorrow only Bohra and Shia and Ahmediya Muslims go vote and Sunnis stay home, it won't be fair to say Muslim vote has shifted by 20% to BJP. Millennial is also a largely white category, so that missing millennial also results in shift in overall white vote...whether it is "fair" to target blacks or Latinos or a non-racial category like millennial for failing to turn out, it doesn't matter. Maybe it is better to realize that the people who didn't turn out are passively okay with DT anyway and could care less for Hillary. Anyway, these kinds of hissy fits were thrown around in India also about how Muslim vote division allowed for Modi sweep. "Left" needs to realize that no group no person likes to be taken as their political pawns or cannon fodder anywhere in the world, and the entirety of their behavior during election, whether they show up to vote, or show up and vote 3rd party candidates or NOTA, or strategically vote as a community in certain direction, the entire sum of their behavior is a political message from those groups.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 19 Nov 2016 18:25

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/19/us/po ... .html?_r=0
Mike Pompeo, Sharp Critic of Hillary Clinton, Is Trump’s Pick to Lead C.I.A.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 19 Nov 2016 18:36

Paul wrote:Per twitter, Dems asking Trump to consider HRC for UN ambassador post!

The delusion of the entitled left is cute and laughable. HRC could be indicted for CF and email server wrongdoings and the only way she stays out of jail is if Obummer pardons her or she gives up some of her minions, and that is exactly what she is going to do. People like Cheryl Mills are currently being considered for 'suicide' with two shots to the back of her head .. just like Vince Foster

. They are in no position to ask, leave alone demand anything from the Trump Administration. For the time being the far left should just GUBO.

-M

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 19 Nov 2016 19:24

So early in the game.

'Hamilton' cast urges Pence to 'uphold our American values'

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 19 Nov 2016 19:26

Amal Clooney: Trump's ideas would break international human rights laws

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Nov 2016 19:53

Bannon seems like wolfowitz cum cheney cum karl rove hybrid.

Gotta admire the guy. Straight up and unapologetic.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 19 Nov 2016 20:13

Trump indicates he will maintain ties with NATO
RT

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Nov 2016 21:26

VP Elect Pence went to a broadway musical. but got booed by the crowd and lectured by the cast on "inclusiveness" at the end.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 19 Nov 2016 22:30

UlanBatori wrote:UN ambassador is so she can claim asylum in the UN bldg when her passport is cancelled. Shall we start a campaign/Petition for HiC as Ambassador to Somalia? Maybe Syria? Libya? Or... hey, why not Qatar?

HRC is just like our termite queen in India. They need a steady revenue stream. If she was UN Ambassador, the Clinton Foundation could still draw in hundreds of million from the Sunni regimes in the middle east. All is well. DT needs to tweet back to those Democrats they should be happy he doesn't prosecute the Clinton Crime Family (CCF).

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 19 Nov 2016 22:53

Singha wrote:Bannon seems like wolfowitz cum cheney cum karl rove hybrid.

Gotta admire the guy. Straight up and unapologetic.

The news portal wants to become global news. The is the indication that western economies are going to get displaced by Asian economies.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywo ... story.html

It is rumored that hedge fund billionaire Robert Mercer has been a major backer of Breitbart. Mercer, who couldn’t be reached for comment, was a major supporter of Trump’s campaign, and his daughter, Rebekah, has been a part of the president-elect’s transition team.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 19 Nov 2016 23:26

I love this whole tamasha (so far). The Lepubricans, esp. T-Party/KKK/HitlerJugend, getting whacked on the cheeks left and right by ppl concerned about "American Values", "Western Traditions", "Christian Values". Booed. High time.

shyam · Post by **shyam** » 19 Nov 2016 23:39

When MSM says something about Trump as rumor, then it has to be fake news.

ldev · Post by **ldev** » 20 Nov 2016 00:07

Singha wrote:Bannon seems like wolfowitz cum cheney cum karl rove hybrid.

Gotta admire the guy. Straight up and unapologetic.

And a true believer in his strategy and in Trump to the very end as this quote from his interview with the Hollywood Reporter demonstrates:

Indeed, during the worst days of the campaign, even down to the last day when most in Trumpland thought only a miracle would save them, "I knew that she couldn't close. They out-spent us 10 to one, had 10 times more people and had all the media with them, but I kept saying it doesn't matter, they got it all wrong, we've got this locked."

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 20 Nov 2016 00:30

Hindsight is always 20/20. Banon should thank Giuliani for his self professed deep connection to FBI and his hint of bombshell of an impending October surprise three days in advance on Fox News.

As Trump Ally, Rudy Giuliani Boasts of Ties to F.B.I.

ldev · Post by **ldev** » 20 Nov 2016 00:49

^^
Guiliani's best days are behind him. He is like a watered down version of Subramaniam Swamy on the political front. HIs private business is doing very well though. Take what he says with a spoonful of salt. I will be surprised if he gets a major cabinet position with Trump, may not even get into the Cabinet at all because of his bombastic talk as well as conflicts of interest with his non US customers in his security consultancy.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 20 Nov 2016 08:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx4iKjWNAf8

Ron Paul says it as it is on Syria,Russia,ISIS & interventions.

saip · Post by **saip** » 20 Nov 2016 09:47

You only need to win 11 states having 180 million population. Out of that only 70% are voters. So 126 million. Just 55% vote. So 70 million. Out of that 50% is 35 million. So if you get 35 million votes you can be the POTUS. If you assume he got zero votes in the other 39 states that means you can be potus if 12% of the population vote for you. Hypothetically speaking.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 20 Nov 2016 10:02

So if you get 35 million votes you can be the POTUS.

Let's extend that thought. A 0.5 percent victory margin in each state is enough to prevent a recount, so that means 175,000 voters totally.
IOW, if any given block of 175,000 voters votes one way, they can swing a POTUS election. And there is some evidence that a certain minority did their share this time to seal the Trump win.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 20 Nov 2016 11:40

by ldev
Guiliani's best days are behind him. He is like a watered down version of Subramaniam Swamy on the political front. HIs private business is doing very well though. Take what he says with a spoonful of salt. I will be surprised if he gets a major cabinet position with Trump, may not even get into the Cabinet at all because of his bombastic talk as well as conflicts of interest with his non US customers in his security consultancy.

Before Guiliani NY city was against capital punishment.
Before Guiliani NY city had maximum number of sex based shops (nude women and videos, etc)
Before Guiliani NY city had lots of drugs related issues (murders, children getting drugs, prostitution, etc).
Before Guiliani NY city had lots and lots of crime issues that were deemed impossible to solve (like NAMO is solving now)

But he solved all those like he

made 42 street (sex street meaning all sex toys, women showing their bodies, touching for money, etc, before him) into family children's street (disney and all).

He is a great politician!

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 20 Nov 2016 11:43

and will go places!!!

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 20 Nov 2016 12:21

Ron Paul Reveals "The Real Fake Media News List"

http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/arc ... -news-list

https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/800037292610043909

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 20 Nov 2016 13:11

Something will crack': supposed prophecy of Donald Trump goes viral

habal · Post by **habal** » 20 Nov 2016 19:04

Jimmy Dore, the guy in glasses basically says that Obama who has a "pretty face" (his words) repealed Habeas corpus, cracked the heads of American protestors in Occupy Washington but gets away with it as he is seen as "liberal" and has a "pretty face". Obama has deported more Mexicans, millions, than any other US president in history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNMQpj8qIIw

Obama & Trump are not that different and just different faces to implement the policies of the American establishment.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 20 Nov 2016 20:44

Video shows Hillary and Bill Clinton premature celebration

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2ea_1479328823

Amitava · Post by **Amitava** » 20 Nov 2016 21:14

Guiliani's contribution is over estimated. Yes, he should get some credit, but far, far less than his supporters project. The crime rate have been decreasing all over the country during the same time, for various other reasons; he was there at the right time.

I have grave reservations on his leadership, he overruled NYPD's objection to locating the emergency control center at 7 WTC

“Seven World Trade Center is a poor choice for the site of a crucial command center for the top leadership of the City of New York,” a panel of police experts, which was aided by the Secret Service, concluded in a confidential Police Department memorandum.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/26/us/po ... gency.html

this directly contributed to increased chaos and lack of coordination during the Sep 11 attacks.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 20 Nov 2016 21:16

Not sure if this goes here but quite informative report on Benghazi

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 20 Nov 2016 22:13

Amitava wrote:Guiliani's contribution is over estimated. Yes, he should get some credit, but far, far less than his supporters project. The crime rate have been decreasing all over the country during the same time, for various other reasons; he was there at the right time.

I have grave reservations on his leadership, he overruled NYPD's objection to locating the emergency control center at 7 WTC

“Seven World Trade Center is a poor choice for the site of a crucial command center for the top leadership of the City of New York,” a panel of police experts, which was aided by the Secret Service, concluded in a confidential Police Department memorandum.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/26/us/po ... gency.html

this directly contributed to increased chaos and lack of coordination during the Sep 11 attacks.

This logic can be extended to anyone and everyone from 9/11 report. Hindsight. Was such a terrorist attack scenario made public or presented by anyone to make decision one way or another whether it was Guiliani, FBI, local police, Immigration, etc.? Did strategist that may be ever inform anyone about the side effects of their policies from 80s and 90s? They did not even bother to tighten up security at airports let alone inform mayor of some major city. Being at right place and right time is hardly enough to see things to success. Not messing up is bigger than anything.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 20 Nov 2016 22:57

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/p ... -us-231681

Citizens of countries suspected of harboring or training terrorists will be temporarily barred from immigrating to the U.S., Reince Priebus, who will be Trump’s chief of staff, said Sunday.

Speaking on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Priebus responded to questions about Michael Flynn’s suggestions that fearing Muslims is rational. Flynn is Trump's choice to be his national security adviser.

“There are some people within that particular religion that we do fear,” Priebus said of Islam. “We don’t believe in religious tests and that we are not blanketly judging an entire religion, but, in fact, we will try to pinpoint the problems and temporarily suspend those areas from coming into the United States until a better vetting system is in place.”

will they man up and name pakistan or just be same same like hilary just pretending to be not one..

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 20 Nov 2016 23:09

Seems like the WTC was one of the best-protected places in Noo Yoik after the initial van-bomb attack - protected from ground attack, I mean.
Protection from air attack is the province of the USAF, so no one does that in the civilian population. So this new and wonderful criterion for Giuliani's "suitability" is a truly remarkable piece of logic. Suppose they had located it somewhere else and a meteorite had fallen on it, hain? Oh, of course, they SHOULD have located it underground. Until the termites, floods, rats, bank robbers and ISIS tunnelers got there.

But that's not why I came here:

"WHITE NATIONALIST BLOODIED". Wonder why they don't start calling them "Xtian Nationalists"??
The Rainbow Mahdis are at it again.

BTW, I HOPE the racist Trump moves away from the WHITE

house to say, the RAINBOW Mahal.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 20 Nov 2016 23:16

Obama has deported more Mexicans, millions, than any other US president in history.

Given the Nobel Peace Prize Winner and Rainbow Coalition Neta his due: He has deported **** OVER THREE MILLION*****, and earned the accolade "Chief Deporter". IOW, of the 11 million suspected undocumented ppl, he has already deported like 30%!!!! While his gang pointed the finger at Trump & Co for arguing that the criminal element be deported.

Which of course pales into insignificance compared to the tens/hundreds of millions killed, raped, wounded, mutilated, starved or driven from their homes all over the world due to BO's kind support of the Wahabi Ummah.
All in all, a productive 8 years of Nobel-certified, Mahdi-quality Peace!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 21 Nov 2016 00:25

Gus wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/p ... -us-231681
Citizens of countries suspected of harboring or training terrorists will be temporarily barred from immigrating to the U.S., Reince Priebus, who will be Trump’s chief of staff, said Sunday.

Speaking on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Priebus responded to questions about Michael Flynn’s suggestions that fearing Muslims is rational. Flynn is Trump's choice to be his national security adviser.

“There are some people within that particular religion that we do fear,” Priebus said of Islam. “We don’t believe in religious tests and that we are not blanketly judging an entire religion, but, in fact, we will try to pinpoint the problems and temporarily suspend those areas from coming into the United States until a better vetting system is in place.”
will they man up and name pakistan or just be same same like hilary just pretending to be not one..

They will name a group of countries including TSP.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 21 Nov 2016 00:40

Sorry, ramana. The excuse I heard the other day was that the above list of countries was "unlike Pakistan where we have excellent vetting in place"

Too many US jarnails and baboon/baboonis are 'on the take' from TSP. Elephant and donkey alike.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 21 Nov 2016 00:50

UlanBatori wrote:
Obama has deported more Mexicans, millions, than any other US president in history.
Given the Nobel Peace Prize Winner and Rainbow Coalition Neta his due: He has deported **** OVER THREE MILLION*****, and earned the accolade "Chief Deporter". IOW, of the 11 million suspected undocumented ppl, he has already deported like 30%!!!! While his gang pointed the finger at Trump & Co for arguing that the criminal element be deported.

and further hyped up Russian agitprop rant deleted........snip.....

the problem with the 3 million deported? .....is that a lot of them come right back and live in sanctuary cities.......we have very porous borders.....

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 21 Nov 2016 01:16

and further hyped up Russian agitprop rant deleted........snip.....