Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 05 Dec 2016 22:28

Falijee wrote:[url=http://dailytimes.com.pk/pakistan/05-De ... convention]
Apart from India, and Russia, all of the other participants belong to the "Ummah Brotherhood Club" . And China ( a "deeper than ocean, higher than mountain fliend!) could be said to be an "honorary member" ; surprising that NONE of these Islamic countries objected to the final declaration which named and shamed the Islamic Republic Of Pakiland ; it is high time that Senile Sartaj admit to the growing diplomatic isolation of this "artificial entity"

Where does the declaration explictly link TSP with India specific terror. For TSP, LeT are not terrorists, so even they will sign onto this declaration.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 05 Dec 2016 22:59

Rammpal wrote:No more TFTA then !

Just FTA.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 05 Dec 2016 23:01

Falijee wrote:This publicity hungry Ex Prez in the garb of an "enlightened moderate" is a "closet Islamist"

An out of the closet islamist tried to kill him. Does he remember that?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Dec 2016 23:14

Two comments:
1) Suhasini Haidar sounds like a Paki reporter when she interviews Ashraf Ghani, President of Afghanistan. I wonder which idiot in MEA is allowing her to ask questions of the visiting Afghan President? She comes out like batting for Pakistan interests and not Indian interests. Looks like her marriage to a Muslim has deranged her as to where she is living.

2) Nirmala Sitharaman needs to take up with WTO/GATT on reciprocal MFN status. It is 20 years since India accorded the MFN status unilaterally. What was the need to accord it in such haste without ensuring TSP also accords MFN? Give an ultimatum either TSP accords MFN or its revoked. And WTO can pound sand.

Sitharaman said: "While there has been marginal decline in value of bilateral trade between the two countries from $1,208.75 million in the period April to October 2015 to $1,167.91 million in the period April to October 2016, the change in value of exports of individual commodities shows a mixed trend."

I got the data for 2010 and it shows total trade at $1.7B. So there is gradual decline of $500M from 2010.

Eventually it will be reduced to under a $1B. So do we have break down of exports vs. imports by India?

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 06 Dec 2016 00:24

ramana wrote:Two comments:
1) Suhasini Haidar sounds like a Paki reporter when she interviews Ashraf Ghani, President of Afghanistan. I wonder which idiot in MEA is allowing her to ask questions of the visiting Afghan President? She comes out like batting for Pakistan interests and not Indian interests. Looks like her marriage to a Muslim has deranged her as to where she is living.

2) Nirmala Sitharaman needs to take up with WTO/GATT on reciprocal MFN status. It is 20 years since India accorded the MFN status unilaterally. What was the need to accord it in such haste without ensuring TSP also accords MFN? Give an ultimatum either TSP accords MFN or its revoked. And WTO can pound sand.

ramana Ji :

1) Suhasini Haider - Not my Cup of Tea or even Coffee.

2) It is better that India either revokes or withdraws the MFN Status given to Cwapistan and forgets all about Land Access via Cwapistan to Afghanistan and the Central Asian Republics.

The Indian Trade :

Exports by Region X Countries

Exports to CARs in US$ Millions

5.1 CARs Countries……..362.46
1) KAZAKHSTAN………....151.91
2) UZBEKISTAN…………...094.64
3) TURKMENISTAN……...068.53
4) KYRGHYZSTAN……....025.11
5) TAJIKISTAN…………...022.26

Import by Region x Countries

Imports from CARs in US$ Millions

5.1 CARs Countries……456.91

1) KAZAKHSTAN………..352.93
2)TURKMENISTAN……..046.97
3) UZBEKISTAN………...045.26
4) TAJIKISTAN…………..009.98
5) KYRGHYZSTAN……...001.79

The Trade to and from Afghistan, Kazakhstan & Turkmenistan will be most competitive via Cha Bahar.

The Trade to the other three can be forgotten or the Transportation Heavily Subsidized. In my Opinion only Uzbekistan matters and the other two can be ignored.

PLUS POINTS : India does not have to give “Land Access” to Cwapistan to ply Oodles of Trucks or Railway Wagons and Boodles of Terrorists as well as Weapons, Explosives etc. to Nepal, Bangladesh, Bhutan and Myanmar. It is not beyond the bounds of Imagination that the Cwapistanis would ask for “Land Access” to Sri Lanka.

So no Land Transit Facilities via Cwapistan for India and No Land Transit via India to Nepal, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Myanmar and Bangladesh FOR CWAPISTAN. Basta!

REQUEST : Is there any "Proper Way" to use the "TAB Facility" - if it exists.
Cheers

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 06 Dec 2016 01:09

Fully Posted on the Islamism & Islamophobia Thread

Inequality among British Muslim communities getting worse: UK govt report[/b]

Some UK communities are "worryingly" segregated and government's failure to tackle social and economic isolation, particularly among Muslims, is playing into the hands of extremists, a government-commissioned report released Monday said.

Cheers

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 06 Dec 2016 01:28

Some social indicators where PAKISTAN IS "BEATING" INDIA HANDS DOWN :

Pakistan Has The Second Largest "Out Of School " Children In The World

‘50m Pakistanis Suffering From Mntal Disorders’

44% Of The Children Are Stunted !

All in their "mad quest" for solving the so - called "unfinished business of partition" and the equal - equal obsession

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Dec 2016 01:51

Peregrine, I agree that its high time (20 years) that MFN should be cancelled.
Since it was accorded in 1996 wonder if this is a unilateral Gujral gesture(large heart/ more like fat head) to appease TSP terrorists.

Especially since WTO does not require immediate granting of MFN status.

I think the MEA babus were sleeping on the job as usual.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Dec 2016 02:50

Falijee wrote:Some social indicators where PAKISTAN IS "BEATING" INDIA HANDS DOWN :
‘50m Pakistanis Suffering From Mntal Disorders’
44% Of The Children Are Stunted !
All in their "mad quest" for solving the so - called "unfinished business of partition" and the equal - equal obsession

Long ago we speculated 300 Millions Bhookha Nanga Pakistani with mental disorder running to cross Wagha for food and water. DId not know that allah was listening and now plotting to fruitify this conclusion.

Bheeshma · Post by **Bheeshma** » 06 Dec 2016 04:30

Mine the borders and put wiring and electrified fences in place.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Dec 2016 04:53

Peregrine, This Golem/Takla Aziz not being allowed to speak should be seen with Khalistani protestors holding stop violence in Kashmir placards which were on Twitter yesterday.

And chatter from Kaneda is that radio stations are chiming no difference in Pak and Indian Punjab. Most likely a TSP attempt to revive Khalistan before Punjab elections.

Some of our members have noted this.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Dec 2016 06:06

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Dec 2016 06:22

IF U have not eaten then watch the witch 's itch & twist. ar 12.50 Trump Told Nawaz not to earn India's anger

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 06 Dec 2016 07:30

Hard-Liners In Paki Establishment "Go After " "Senile Sartaj"

Anger over Sartaj Aziz’s botched visit to India

ISLAMABAD: The security establishment and some senior ministers have shown anger and serious concern over the humiliation of Adviser to Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz by the Indian government during the Heart of Asia conference in Amritsar, India, and demanded that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif changes policy towards India and Afghanistan.

While Isloo was "buzzing" with " anger and humiliation" at the perceived "inefficient performance" of S.A. , Ganja Sharif was busy "enjoying" the sumptuous luncheon - he hosted - for the Qatari Prince (who had earlier "tabled" a false affidavit in the Paki Supreme Court to save Ganja's hide in the Panama scandal !) at his Raiwind Estate ;

The Pakistani leadership appears to be following the 'appeasement' policy vis-à-vis India, as it has become a tradition that whenever India levels concocted allegations against Pakistan at any forum, Pakistani high-ups present on the occasion refrain from giving a matching response, security and opposition sources said. "Poor Sartaj" is unnecessarily being blamed for the "strict security/ protocol " of the Yindoos, who did not allow this "gentleman of the old school " to spout Paki Propaganda on Indian soil

Sources said that some senior cabinet ministers, including Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan ( the Paki Fauj will be happy , if this pithoo of their's is "promoted" to F.M . ) and Petroleum Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, had expressed anger over the Indian government's behaviour with the Pakistani delegation, including media persons.

They said that Sartaj Aziz had failed to present Pakistan's case in strong way in response to baseless allegations by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Afghan President Ashraf Ghani. They were of the view that the adviser should have responded to both Modi and Ghani in strong words during the conference, or should have boycotted the conference in protest. Sources said that Pakistan was the country that had sacrificed the most in the war against terrorism, yet India and Afghanistan were blaming Pakistan for regional instability.

Sources disclosed that a majority of the cabinet members and security establishment officials were not in favour of sending Sartaj Aziz to India under the prevailing circumstances, but Special Assistant to Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Tariq Fatemi and Foreign Office babus convinced the premier to allow the adviser's participation in the conference.

In the now in-the-open turf battle between the "hardliners" and the "not-so-hardliners" in the Paki Establishment, Senile Sartaj has now become a "political football" between the two sides ; it is high time, that for the sake of his dignity, this 87 year old Pathan should retire to his "stud farm" in Charsadda.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 06 Dec 2016 08:26

he In The Wake Of Ganja-Trump Phone Call , Paki Establishment Goes Into "Diplomatic Overdrive"

Efforts under way to reach out to Trump team

WASHINGTON: With the arrival of a vanguard team in the US capital on Sunday, Pakistan launched a major diplomatic campaign to establish early ties with the Trump administration.Some media reports claim that as part of these efforts, Pakistan is also considering the possibility of sending Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to attend US President-elect Donald Trump’s inaugural ceremony on Jan 20.

So, Ganja won't be waiting for an official invitation, but is going to "invite himself"; timing will be "perfect" for him and his "extended Sharif clan" ( who will surely tag along !); they can now take advantage of "Post Christmas" holiday sales in D.C and N.Y.C, and also book a "whole floor" at Trump's International Hotel at 1100 Pennsylvania Ave at an discounted rate

Officials at the Pakistan Embassy, however, say that while Special Assistant for Foreign Affairs Tariq Fatemi’s visit to the United States is the first of several planned in the early days of the Trump administration, it’s “still too early to talk about the PM’s visit”. Strike while the iron is hot (take advantage of Trump's nice words about Pakis !)

Mr Fatemi, who begins his official engagements in Washington on Monday, will also visit New York early next week for meetings with members of the Trump transition team. ( Is he invited ?) In Washington, Mr Fatemi will meet members of the new US Congress, elected last month, and officials of the outgoing Obama administration.

There are at least two people in the senior Trump team who are familiar with Pakistan and are aware of its importance in the fight against terrorism — the nominee for Secretary of Defence, James Mattis, and the proposed National Security Adviser, Michael Flynn. Mr Flynn, also a retired general, spoke about Pakistan’s role in the war against terrorism when he attended a qawali at the Pakistan Embassy in September. The famous "Pakistani hospitalilty" and charm on display !

But diplomatic observers in Washington say that while Pakistani visitors may find some ‘eager listeners’ both in Washington and New York, they will also have to face “some probing, if not hostile, questions from their hosts,” ( and the "famous" NRI lobby ) as one of the observers said.

And the incoming Trump administration’s election manifesto, so far their only official policy document, also highlights the complications that can continue to mar relations between the United States and Pakistan.The document acknowledges the relationship as “necessary” but “difficult” but it also expressed the desire to “strengthen” the “historic ties that have frayed under the weight of international conflict”.

And in the next sentence, the document warns that the process of normalisation “cannot progress as long as any citizen of Pakistan can be punished for helping the War on Terror”. This, obviously is an oblique reference to the incarceration of Dr Shakil Afridi, who helped the US track down Osama bin Laden.
The document then raises a subject that sets alarm bells in Islamabad, Pakistan’s nuclear programme.

The White House official said that when President Trump begins planning his overseas travel, “he’ll have a range of places to consider, and Pakistan would certainly be one of them” ( Diplomatic niceties ?)because “this obviously is an important relationship”.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 06 Dec 2016 10:41

Saudi Airstrikes kill Paki Sailors

https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article ... eni-coast/

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Dec 2016 13:37

Prem wrote:Long ago we speculated 300 Millions Bhookha Nanga Pakistani with mental disorder running to cross Wagha for food and water. DId not know that allah was listening and now plotting to fruitify this conclusion.

Why should the martial race not turn martial on itself hanji to corner the largest share of food and water still available in Bakiland? Why should the loud Bakis not find the answers within themselves rather than turn to India?

That will be the real blessing of arrrah.

habal · Post by **habal** » 06 Dec 2016 13:49

Chinese naval officer makes call on new general ..

look at body language, what a pathetic client state

aditya · Post by **aditya** » 06 Dec 2016 16:40

^ Gunggao Ding?

habal · Post by **habal** » 06 Dec 2016 16:43

something like that ..

Gunggao Ding meets no ding no dong

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 06 Dec 2016 19:09

ramana wrote:Peregrine, This Golem/Takla Aziz not being allowed to speak should be seen with Khalistani protestors holding stop violence in Kashmir placards which were on Twitter yesterday.

And chatter from Kaneda is that radio stations are chiming no difference in Pak and Indian Punjab. Most likely a TSP attempt to revive Khalistan before Punjab elections.

Some of our members have noted this.

ramana Ji and all BFRites :

The Cwapistanis never stopped.

Cheers

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 06 Dec 2016 19:12

habal wrote:Chinese naval officer makes call on new general ..
look at body language, what a pathetic client state

My Oh My! Gubboing flom Chinaman Vely Vely Hultful!
Cheers

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 06 Dec 2016 19:24

Fully Posted on the Managing Chinese Threat Thread

Want to treat us like your fat lamb? Forget about it: China's state-run media to Trump

NEW DELHI: Just days after US President-elect Donald Trump ranted against Beijing using his favourite medium, Twitter, Chinese media, which is a mouthpiece for its government, has a message for the American: "Trump wants to treat China as a fat lamb... Forget about it!"

It might as well have said 'fuggedaboutit!' ,which is how New Yorkers say that phrase, and which essentially means 'won't happen' or 'ain't happening".

Cheers

Suresh S · Post by **Suresh S** » 06 Dec 2016 19:25

He looks "very professional " only per a ex Indian COAS

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 06 Dec 2016 21:36

Pakistan Suffers From Cancer But Refuses Chemotherapy

The cancer of ‘sifarish’

(Old but still relevant! )

It is hardly realised that the almost universal practice of sifarish does not raise any eyebrows and has become an accepted social norm. It is surprising that a majority of people who otherwise consider themselves quite honest and above any pecuniary temptations think that there is nothing wrong about resorting to sifarish for appointments, postings, transfers, admissions and contracts.

Sifarish is a routine matter for the majority because of the societal norms of lihaz, sharam and murawwat that are expected from all those who are in a position to exercise influence. Sometimes it is a reciprocal arrangement whereby I help your son get admission to a prestigious institution while you repay me by getting mine appointed to a lucrative public-sector job.

If a person refrains from sifarish he faces the wrath of his family, circle of friends, biradari, kinship etc. That is why sifarish has become so ingrained in our national DNA and is spreading like cancer ( and the patient ie Pakistan refuses the prescribed Chemo treatment!) making our institutions dysfunctional and weakening the state’s writ.

And this "gem" reported by a Foreign News Agency ( AFP) to reinforce the "cancer scare "

:

Supreme Court to probe hiring of 50 govt employees from one family

Pakistani authorities promised an inquiry on Tuesday after the Sindh government was found to have employed almost 50 members of the same family in various health ministry jobs, many in the same hospital.

The provincial health minister Sikandar Ali Mandhro said he was unaware of the matter but would look into it.Pakistan ranks 117th out of 168 on Transparency International's list of global corruption, where a higher number denotes greater graft.

Society corrupt to the core - from top to bottom ; examples abound ( Ex COAS -stopped from "fleeing to Australia", present PM -unable to explain source of funds used in purchasing oversees properties; Ex Prez - AAZ- spent time in jail on corruption charges ; and the list goes on and on !)

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 06 Dec 2016 21:54

Ganja Sharif's Relative And C.M.L ( Chief Money Launderer ) And F.M To Join O.P.G. Against Corruption

Ishaq Dar off to Paris to join Open Government Partnership (OGP) against Corruption

ISLAMABAD: Federal Minister for Finance Ishaq Dar will announce Pakistan’s decision to join Open Government Partnership (OGP) initiative at Paris on Wednesday (tomorrow) to demonstrate commitment at top level to make government’s functioning transparent and responsive in shape of launching anti-corruption drive at all tiers of government.“Dar will declare the government’s decision for joining OGP initiative at Paris summit on December 7, 2016 in the scheduled meeting from Dec 6 to 9,” official sources confirmed while talking with The News here on Monday.

In this day and age of public relations, " optics" is very very important - substance might be zero !

The Finance Minister will attend Open Government Partnership (OGP) summit where leaders of over seventy countries will debate principles of transparency, accountability and citizen participation which contributes to good governance and socio-economic development of member countries. In the true spirit of good governance and accountability, it is hoped that his extended family is not "tagging along " with him on government expense to see Paris and do some shopping

The minister is also likely to hold bilateral meetings with Managing Director AFD and the management of Renault besides interacting with French and Paris-based Pakistani media.

Of course, "some impression" should be conveyed to the Aam Abduls that "government business" is also going to be conducted and it is strictly NOT all pleasure !

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 06 Dec 2016 21:55

Falijee wrote:Some social indicators where PAKISTAN IS "BEATING" INDIA HANDS DOWN :

Pakistan Has The Second Largest "Out Of School " Children In The World

Because Bharat not giving Kashmir

‘50m Pakistanis Suffering From Mntal Disorders’

Because Bharat not giving Kashmir

44% Of The Children Are Stunted !

Because Bharat not giving Kashmir

All in their "mad quest" for solving the so - called "unfinished business of partition" and the equal - equal obsession

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 06 Dec 2016 23:58

Afghanistan embarrassed Pakistan by refusing to accept Pakistani aid of $500 millions

Good that Ghani refused the "generous" offer ; a "bhooka nanga" mulk like Pakistan - where is it going to get 500 Million Dollars in the first place ! Ever since coming into existence, it has followed the principle of "robbing ~~Peter~~ Amir to pay~~Paul~~ Abdul . Robbing the erstwhile East Pakistan of its jute revenue to finance the industrialization of West Pakistan ; in more recent times, it has been playing a "double game" with Massa; "padding" Coalition Support Reimbursement Expenses , "stealing" Afghan bound US arms consignments and passing the loot to non-state actors to use against India . Ghani rightly "advised" them to use the amount in controlling terrorism in their own nation

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 07 Dec 2016 00:13

Voting rights for transgender passed in KP Assembly : Resolution passed

So, "progress" has at last been made in this "most conservative" province of Pakiland ; In all these years, these she-males were kept under "lock and key" by their "managers" and were denied "their most basic human right"; the question now remains as to who will "bell the cat" on this one ! Is implementation going to be easy ?; Will their names appear on the voting list and will they not be taunted and allowed to vote without duress ; maybe, they should approach Imran Khan to ensure implementation ( His party is in charge in KP). Lots of unanswered questions.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 07 Dec 2016 00:23

CPEC completion to bring $150 billion investment from China

Lahori Logic (LL) or Sialkoti Statistics (SS) ; time will tell

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 07 Dec 2016 00:33

First Lady Of Pakiland (FLOP) "Raked Over " The Coals By An" Isloo Judge "

Maryam Nawaz carries hen that lays golden eggs: Judges

ISLAMABAD – Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) spokesman Fawad Chaudhry said Maryam Nawaz got a profit worth Rs.19.6 million on a BMW vehicle that she received in 2006.On this, the judges likened the vehicle to a hen that lays golden eggs.He said that Maryam is dependent on her father as her Income tax return was ‘zero’, adding all her expenses were afforded by her father. “Her travelling expenses surpassed her income,” Fawad added.

Of late, the Paki media has been comparing Ganja with Trump and the inevitable pairing of Ivanka (Trump) and Maryam (Nawaz)

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 07 Dec 2016 00:47

Punjab government denies giving approval for Basant celebrations

Ostensible Reason Given :

In 2005, the Supreme Court had banned the spring festival over a number of deaths caused by the use of sharp and glass coated strings.

Real Reason For Ban :

Reports about the approval of the Basant in Punjab surfaced on different news channels, leading many religious personalities, including Mufti Muneeb ur Rahman, ( the Mullah Brigade )to criticise the decision.

"Hindu Festival " cannot be allowed in a "Muslim Nation"

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 07 Dec 2016 01:00

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anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 07 Dec 2016 02:35

habal wrote:Chinese naval officer makes call on new general ..look at body language, what a pathetic client state

Never believe what you see. Remember this "compliant" general? Besides, how would you expect a paki "genrail" to behave when the banker/lender/investor who owns the title to your nation comes to your office?

Hainji?

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 07 Dec 2016 06:16

US Magazine Issues "Clean Bill Of Health"To Paki Agent Robin Raphael

Risking Diplomacy- The Sad Tale Of Robin Raphael

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 07 Dec 2016 06:22

The Rehabilitation Of "Engineer" Hekmatyar

Hekmatyar Expected To Move To Nangarhar

Nangarhar governor Gulab Mangal on Tuesday said the Hizb-e-Islami leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar will move to the province in the near future and they are ready to welcome him.Mangal said Hekmatyar will live in Nangarhar until his name has been removed from the UN's black list.

Hekmatyar will do Pakistan's bidding in the guise of protecting "Pashtun interests"!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Dec 2016 08:10

FOR CRS sake.

I hear Unfair has been abusive of a voter after recent election.
And someone complained of the abuse and the UTy is looking into it.
Know about the complainant and the Uty contract wont be renewed or worse.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 07 Dec 2016 08:26

RamanGaru,

Not getting it. You mean Fair did when you say Unfair? And what is UTy? And whats the complaint about?

GShankar · Post by **GShankar** » 07 Dec 2016 08:29

UTy - university.

Complaint seems to have been about verbal abuse and harassment from what I glean from ramana's post

habal · Post by **habal** » 07 Dec 2016 10:23

AoA

the day starts away on a positive for pakistan.

terrific country, terrific people, terrific society

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