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my bet is Russians want to get a full fledged carrier group up & running, they are using this as practice run. So come what may they will keep at it. They will get better.
they will keep with this even if they lose 10 planes in the process. Personally, I feel 4-5 will be lost due to sheer inexperience.
It is very indic though to go into 'doom & gloom' at first sign of failure,
tough, battle-hardened civilizations manage things differently.
they will keep with this even if they lose 10 planes in the process. Personally, I feel 4-5 will be lost due to sheer inexperience.
It is very indic though to go into 'doom & gloom' at first sign of failure,
tough, battle-hardened civilizations manage things differently.
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Brasco_Aad @Brasco_Aad 7h7 hours ago
Confirmed by the Terrorists: The #Syria/n Army has liberated the Grand Ummayd Mosque in #Aleppo
Confirmed by the Terrorists: The #Syria/n Army has liberated the Grand Ummayd Mosque in #Aleppo
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BBC has suddenly gone neutral
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M Green
@MmaGreen
Syrian Army is entering the neighborhoods of Bab Al Haded, Bab Al Nasr & Al Farifira, Old Aleppo as militants enter the green buses to Idlib
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M Green @MmaGreen 10h10 hours ago
Oh and if you were wondering this rat surrendered in Bab Al Hadeed in Old Aleppo tonight
M Green @MmaGreen 10h10 hours ago
Militants that have not surrendered in East Aleppo are heading to reinforce positions in Sukkari, Al Fardous, & Al Salaheen for a last stand
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turkiye FSA areas hit by unidentified jets last night


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oh boy read this in full...NYT is throwing towel after towel in this op-ed
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/opini ... .html?_r=0
The United States and Russia could start by negotiating terms that would end the fighting between the regime and the moderate opposition. The terms might include an amnesty for the rebels, the right of Syrian refugees to return and equal access to reconstruction assistance. It could even include some promises of basic political freedoms, international monitoring and the removal of Syrian officials (not including Mr. Assad) responsible for the worst crimes.
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Kurdish fighters feel confident that they can take the city, but their leaders understand that they’re not in a position to govern a large Arab city. Since there is no viable Arab alternative to the Syrian government, this will mean transferring control of Raqqa to the regime in Damascus.
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One option is to establish an American-protected Kurdish safe area in northeastern Syria similar to the one created in northern Iraq after the first gulf war. That expensive option is complicated by the inability of the United States to use Turkish air bases to enforce it. (Turkey regards the Kurds as its leading enemy in Syria.) The less costly alternative is to co-sponsor a Russian plan for an autonomous Kurdish area within a federal Syria.
However, Russia’s leverage with Mr. Assad will diminish as the opposition crumbles in Syria’s west and Russian airpower becomes less important. At that point, the opportunity to extract concessions will disappear, and the field will belong to Mr. Assad and Iran.
President-elect Donald J. Trump has stated his intention to work with Russia and Mr. Assad to defeat the Islamic State. The sooner America reaches out to Russia, ideally before January’s handover of administration, the better.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/opini ... .html?_r=0
The United States and Russia could start by negotiating terms that would end the fighting between the regime and the moderate opposition. The terms might include an amnesty for the rebels, the right of Syrian refugees to return and equal access to reconstruction assistance. It could even include some promises of basic political freedoms, international monitoring and the removal of Syrian officials (not including Mr. Assad) responsible for the worst crimes.
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Kurdish fighters feel confident that they can take the city, but their leaders understand that they’re not in a position to govern a large Arab city. Since there is no viable Arab alternative to the Syrian government, this will mean transferring control of Raqqa to the regime in Damascus.

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One option is to establish an American-protected Kurdish safe area in northeastern Syria similar to the one created in northern Iraq after the first gulf war. That expensive option is complicated by the inability of the United States to use Turkish air bases to enforce it. (Turkey regards the Kurds as its leading enemy in Syria.) The less costly alternative is to co-sponsor a Russian plan for an autonomous Kurdish area within a federal Syria.

However, Russia’s leverage with Mr. Assad will diminish as the opposition crumbles in Syria’s west and Russian airpower becomes less important. At that point, the opportunity to extract concessions will disappear, and the field will belong to Mr. Assad and Iran.

President-elect Donald J. Trump has stated his intention to work with Russia and Mr. Assad to defeat the Islamic State. The sooner America reaches out to Russia, ideally before January’s handover of administration, the better.

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Russia will atleast talk to the US and work to some extent with them,
the EU will be spat upon and shooed away by the peon outside Putinjis office.
soon all the jobless Idlib jihadis will be migrating westward to start their new life in berlin, paree and london
not exactly god save the queen and deutschland uber alles type boys these lol
the EU will be spat upon and shooed away by the peon outside Putinjis office.
soon all the jobless Idlib jihadis will be migrating westward to start their new life in berlin, paree and london
not exactly god save the queen and deutschland uber alles type boys these lol
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the bearded man is likely not a jihadi, but someone who was homeless due to shelling , lost his family and mental balance and probably just wandering around.
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SDF is pushing south from shahdadi toward deir azzor down the river


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^^ could be part of some track2 assad-usa-russia deal to open a land corridor for resupply to deir azzor until such time as Raqqa is dealt with properly...
if they close that channel, will be the 2nd block on the Raqqa-Mosul line after the PMU one
if they close that channel, will be the 2nd block on the Raqqa-Mosul line after the PMU one
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Iraqi Day
@iraqi_day
IMPORTANT
#Iraq PM @HaiderAlAbadi : An alternative plan for #Mosul will begin in the coming hours it will be swift & decisive from all axes.
@iraqi_day
IMPORTANT
#Iraq PM @HaiderAlAbadi : An alternative plan for #Mosul will begin in the coming hours it will be swift & decisive from all axes.
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But you have to wonder how many dozens of combat planes the Russians could have modernized or replaced entirely with the money they wasted on that carrier. How many missile cruisers could they have built or returned to service? How many attack subs? Thie Kuznetsov project has been an unnecessary drain on the Russian armed forces and a gross misallocation of limited funds. I get the propaganda value but that's pretty limited when everyone is laughing at you.habal wrote:my bet is Russians want to get a full fledged carrier group up & running, they are using this as practice run. So come what may they will keep at it. They will get better.
they will keep with this even if they lose 10 planes in the process. Personally, I feel 4-5 will be lost due to sheer inexperience.
It is very indic though to go into 'doom & gloom' at first sign of failure,
tough, battle-hardened civilizations manage things differently.
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If you have to get a new thing going, then you will have to get used to some laughing at by the older players.
as they say first they laugh, then they fight etc. All part of the process sir.
I would be surprised if Russians let go of this learning curve.
as they say first they laugh, then they fight etc. All part of the process sir.
I would be surprised if Russians let go of this learning curve.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_I6mri ... 0&h=360%5D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIqic6nK-A4
Syria: SAA tanks and infantry battle militants in Aleppo’s Karm al-Myasser district
Former US army colonel believes he sees evidence of great professionalism and skill in combat footage featuring Syrian army units in Aleppo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIqic6nK-A4
Syria: SAA tanks and infantry battle militants in Aleppo’s Karm al-Myasser district
Former US army colonel believes he sees evidence of great professionalism and skill in combat footage featuring Syrian army units in Aleppo
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Yusha Yuseef:
#SOHR : Syrian Army full control All old Aleppo neighborhoods.
I suppose most of it controlled , but Tiger forces didn't enter all of it yet
#SOHR : Syrian Army full control All old Aleppo neighborhoods.
I suppose most of it controlled , but Tiger forces didn't enter all of it yet
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Hassan Ridha @sayed_ridha
Pro-Opp SOHR announces that the Syrian Army & its allies have taken full control of Old Aleppo following retreat by rebel & Islamist forces
Pro-Opp SOHR announces that the Syrian Army & its allies have taken full control of Old Aleppo following retreat by rebel & Islamist forces
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kuznetsov is mostly a sunk cost from the 90s. it does not sail much, so opex is low. its planes and helis can be used from land too...like naval air stations.
the incremental opex for a couple of training cruises a year is not much.
I am sure its granit silos and SAM magazines are empty or mostly so, further reducing cost. same for peter the great - its vast missile mags are likely only 25% full
the incremental opex for a couple of training cruises a year is not much.
I am sure its granit silos and SAM magazines are empty or mostly so, further reducing cost. same for peter the great - its vast missile mags are likely only 25% full
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third Russsian medic/soldier death in Aleppo mortar attack by Al Qaeda
http://tass.com/defense/917298
Colonel Ruslan Galitsky has died in hospital after being severely wounded. Russian military medics fought for his life for several days. The officer sustained injuries in an artillery bombardment by the militants of the so-called ‘opposition’, when they shelled a residential area in the western part of Aleppo,” the ministry said.
http://tass.com/defense/917298
Colonel Ruslan Galitsky has died in hospital after being severely wounded. Russian military medics fought for his life for several days. The officer sustained injuries in an artillery bombardment by the militants of the so-called ‘opposition’, when they shelled a residential area in the western part of Aleppo,” the ministry said.
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Iranian-made unmanned drone involved in attack on Turkish soldiers in Syria, @cherryontop__ reports
http://hry.yt/KsMYr
http://hry.yt/KsMYr
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Al Bab Areas bombed by unidentified jets last night, 7 Turks & 8 jihadis claimed KIA
http://tr.hawarnews.com/babin-kuzeyinde ... tesi-oldu/
http://tr.hawarnews.com/babin-kuzeyinde ... tesi-oldu/
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AoA
So it's done for.

So it's done for.

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the tigers , repub guard and T72 tanks look like grizzled veterans of many a fight. while the T72 chassis might not be a heavily cage armoured as the ones near damascus - the famous "Jobar Turtles" , their crews could be from such units. takes a lot of skills to fight in such congested areas.
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people have to take their time to understand what just happened here.
After 2001, the US had the chance to move the world from the old order of chaos and darkness into a different future of humanity. & this is huge.. Instead of creating a perception that was not real but destructive to control and power over people. Like after the Iraq invasion it was widely talked about how an empire creates its own reality. A foreign funded, trained and controlled gang of mercenaries are passed off as peaceful homegrown rebels fighting against tyranny when in reality it was the exact opposite.
Now that the project has failed, they want to control how people will get access to information which they had a monopoly on before. Figuring if they only get lies then people are stupid enough to believe it as the truth. These very same countries that talk about freedom, equality, democracy and things that people want are nothing but lies. What the people get are the exact opposite and what is brought is just more exploitation.
After hundreds of countries are destroyed, at last one is still standing. The war against Syria is not over. But it shows that if enough people oppose it and expose the truth, the forces of darkness can be defeated. They can try to stop the people from learning the truth. But even with the power they hold over the masses, this has shown that the people wont stand for their lies.
Words to describe these elites who want power over the rest of us fail me. Evil is too nice a term, these are the depraved scum of low lives who think because of the power they wield over humans, we only live for them and their whims and their games.
If you look at the universe, we are not even a spec of grain of sand. So imagine how small these elites think. For them controlling that spec of sand and the sand box is an achievement. But we have far bigger plans.. We are like a virus, we want to be free.. To control far more than a spec of sand.. we want to be masters of the universe.. It is an enormous step for man kind.
After 2001, the US had the chance to move the world from the old order of chaos and darkness into a different future of humanity. & this is huge.. Instead of creating a perception that was not real but destructive to control and power over people. Like after the Iraq invasion it was widely talked about how an empire creates its own reality. A foreign funded, trained and controlled gang of mercenaries are passed off as peaceful homegrown rebels fighting against tyranny when in reality it was the exact opposite.
Now that the project has failed, they want to control how people will get access to information which they had a monopoly on before. Figuring if they only get lies then people are stupid enough to believe it as the truth. These very same countries that talk about freedom, equality, democracy and things that people want are nothing but lies. What the people get are the exact opposite and what is brought is just more exploitation.
After hundreds of countries are destroyed, at last one is still standing. The war against Syria is not over. But it shows that if enough people oppose it and expose the truth, the forces of darkness can be defeated. They can try to stop the people from learning the truth. But even with the power they hold over the masses, this has shown that the people wont stand for their lies.
Words to describe these elites who want power over the rest of us fail me. Evil is too nice a term, these are the depraved scum of low lives who think because of the power they wield over humans, we only live for them and their whims and their games.
If you look at the universe, we are not even a spec of grain of sand. So imagine how small these elites think. For them controlling that spec of sand and the sand box is an achievement. But we have far bigger plans.. We are like a virus, we want to be free.. To control far more than a spec of sand.. we want to be masters of the universe.. It is an enormous step for man kind.
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hat tip SAA.
the most battle hardened & capable unit in the middle east. You took on the combined might of the borg and stopped it in it's path and looked it in it's eye and punched it in it's face.
for rest of humanity, you removed the fear of the enemy.
The US eagle has become the US turkey.
and the biggest turkey is the CIA.
the most battle hardened & capable unit in the middle east. You took on the combined might of the borg and stopped it in it's path and looked it in it's eye and punched it in it's face.
for rest of humanity, you removed the fear of the enemy.
The US eagle has become the US turkey.
and the biggest turkey is the CIA.

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the palestinians of handarat camp cannot have had a lavish or great upbringing, but they have repaid their debt 100x to the adopted homeland. no less sons of the soil.
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Yusha Yuseef @MIG29_ 2h2 hours ago
Breaking Rusian Mod : Russian colonel was killed due to bombing carried out by the armed opposition missiles on a neighborhoods of Aleppo
Breaking Rusian Mod : Russian colonel was killed due to bombing carried out by the armed opposition missiles on a neighborhoods of Aleppo
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the black flags of khorasan have risen,
but it ain't the make-believe, insider assembly of drug addicts called Taliban/ ISIS/ Al Qaeda/ US Navy Seals dressed in black/ Mossad dressed in black/ Saudi, Qatari trouble makers, prisoner, drug addicts dressed in black/SAS with beard and dressed in black.
It is indeed Hezbollah/ PMU/ Mahdi Army/ SAA/ Liwa al quds/ Russia/ Ramzan Kadyrov/ IRGC/ Houthi/ Afghan Hazara/ Armenian/ PRC who are assembling behind this black flag.
but it ain't the make-believe, insider assembly of drug addicts called Taliban/ ISIS/ Al Qaeda/ US Navy Seals dressed in black/ Mossad dressed in black/ Saudi, Qatari trouble makers, prisoner, drug addicts dressed in black/SAS with beard and dressed in black.
It is indeed Hezbollah/ PMU/ Mahdi Army/ SAA/ Liwa al quds/ Russia/ Ramzan Kadyrov/ IRGC/ Houthi/ Afghan Hazara/ Armenian/ PRC who are assembling behind this black flag.
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Alaa Ebrahim @Alaa_Ebrahim_tv 11h11 hours ago
Rebel sources confirm that factions operating in eastern #Aleppo have now agreed to pullback completely.
^^ time to refuel the green buses. this time the trip to Idlib is short around 40km
^^ I do hope the enclaves of Fuah and Kafraya near Idlib which are being shelled in retaliation are evacuated in exchange for letting the Aleppo dregs go and every single resident there evacuated to Govt held lands....they will be massacred soon if not. the track3 agreement with Iran to let them live and be resupplied by UN and Iriaf C130 is probably not going to be honoured now.
Rebel sources confirm that factions operating in eastern #Aleppo have now agreed to pullback completely.
^^ time to refuel the green buses. this time the trip to Idlib is short around 40km
^^ I do hope the enclaves of Fuah and Kafraya near Idlib which are being shelled in retaliation are evacuated in exchange for letting the Aleppo dregs go and every single resident there evacuated to Govt held lands....they will be massacred soon if not. the track3 agreement with Iran to let them live and be resupplied by UN and Iriaf C130 is probably not going to be honoured now.
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Europeans are quite worried that IS fighters deserting East Aleppo and else where will pop up in Europe eventually and they are not 'moderate rebels' once out of ME.
@Singha Why they are being allowed to go to Idlib, isn't that town to be taken back as well?
@Singha Why they are being allowed to go to Idlib, isn't that town to be taken back as well?
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Later brother later....think of it as a wastebasket for the rest of western syria to be cleaned up before its flushed down toilet.
While eu have head where sun never shines, the pentagon surely realizes the kind of west afghanistan that idlib will become if a caliphate is allowed to flourish there. They might advise trumpji to just sit by and let the assadists finish the dirty job..why waste blood and treasure if assadists will do it for free.
While eu have head where sun never shines, the pentagon surely realizes the kind of west afghanistan that idlib will become if a caliphate is allowed to flourish there. They might advise trumpji to just sit by and let the assadists finish the dirty job..why waste blood and treasure if assadists will do it for free.
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Next major battles are plains of western aleppo toward saraqib and al bab area in safira plains.
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Unlike aleppo, a good segment of population in idlib is pro jihadist so no lack of fighters or access to turkey border to bring more boots in from euphrates shield
I suspect erdoganji will settle for his little fiefdom in north syria and slowly let iblib revolution wither and die. He is a survivor like assadji
I suspect erdoganji will settle for his little fiefdom in north syria and slowly let iblib revolution wither and die. He is a survivor like assadji
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Latest map. Bab al nayrab has fallen...its like stalingrad with growing tighter daily and ammo running low
https://mobile.twitter.com/sayed_ridha/ ... 04/photo/1

https://mobile.twitter.com/sayed_ridha/ ... 04/photo/1

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North part of sheikh saeed and two large locales in old aleppo is left
By weekend the show is over
By weekend the show is over
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Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel 2h2 hours ago
This is what happens when your statistics come from groups like the @snhr and White Helmets.
Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel 2h2 hours ago
Where the f*** are these 250k people in east Aleppo? We are liberating empty neighborhoods.
^^^^ so far some 29000 people have appeared from liberated areas. the remaining areas might have 10k and thats it, nowhere like 250k
those with any sense or means left right when the rebels took over the town
This is what happens when your statistics come from groups like the @snhr and White Helmets.
Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel 2h2 hours ago
Where the f*** are these 250k people in east Aleppo? We are liberating empty neighborhoods.
^^^^ so far some 29000 people have appeared from liberated areas. the remaining areas might have 10k and thats it, nowhere like 250k

those with any sense or means left right when the rebels took over the town
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most of it these areas are like ruins and wrecks inhabited only by orcs ... Mordor