Hassan Ridha @sayed_ridha 52m52 minutes ago
President Assad says good relations btw Syria-Turkey is logical, however, Erdogan is mentally unstable, no room for logic
Hassan Ridha @sayed_ridha 1h1 hour ago
President Assad: Aleppo will be a gain & significant landmark, but realistically, not the end to the war http://sana.sy/en/?p=95555
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Contrast the change from last year when ShaymD mentioned that Assad only had a few more weeks.
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Mahdi Khodabakhsh @khodabakhsh24 1m1 minute ago
#UPDATE
Pres. spox #Kalin: #Turkey is conducting intense talks with #Russia for ceasefire in #Aleppo and to allow humanitarian aid in #Syria
btw where is ShyamD, still strategically advising some royal family in GCC ?
#UPDATE
Pres. spox #Kalin: #Turkey is conducting intense talks with #Russia for ceasefire in #Aleppo and to allow humanitarian aid in #Syria
btw where is ShyamD, still strategically advising some royal family in GCC ?
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Shyamd: assadfall©™
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this is for all assad fan's on here
from this sunday
esp for shyamD,
from this sunday
esp for shyamD,
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mungeri lal ki haseen sapne continues ... like any stupid plan it does not account for a big bad bearded type sitting on a hill , using his ZSU23 to shred these gently floating JPADS if he wanted to... these EU people have not sent a morsel of dog food to the 30,000 people who have escaped jihadi areas are now huddled in overcrowded housing and receiving food and clothing from the govt.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... parachutes
Western diplomats have conceded that there are no technical obstacles to a plan to deliver airdrops of food and medicine to Aleppo using a GPS-guided parachute system, but the scheme has been stalled in the face of reluctance among military commanders and an absence of political will.
Diplomats and military from six governments – including the UK, US, France and Germany – have now seen the detailed operational plan proposed by an aid agency, which has been circulating among western officials for over a month.
The plan, which has been seen by the Guardian, relies on technology known as the the Joint Precision Airdrop System (JPads), which has been used by the US military since 2001 to supply troops in forward-offensive positions in areas of Afghanistan too difficult or dangerous to reach by road. It uses pallets dropped by parachute and guided by GPS navigation and a rudder.
According to the plan there are three identified feasible landing points inside east Aleppo. The main aim is to get some humanitarian supplies into the embattled and shrinking enclave to keep people alive in the hope that talks would lead to a longer-term solution.
The plan envisaged an initial delivery of 20 pallets and the flights could depart from RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus or the Incirlik air base in Turkey. The ICRC could potentially verify that packages were for humanitarian purposes alone.
Aircraft would keep within 25km of the Turkish border and always remain over opposition-controlled areas. The pallets can be dropped from around 25,000ft and have a drift zone of up to 25km, thereby overcoming the main objection to air drops: that it would bring Nato planes into range of Syrian and Russian jets and air defence systems.
However, although the plan has been generally embraced by diplomats, there has been resistance from western military officers.
“One military was so reticent they denied the capability even existed,” said a source familiar with the meetings. While the technology is currently only used by the US military, its existence is clearly noted on the manufacturer’s website.
Chris Harmer, retired naval aviator and a senior analyst at the Institute for the Study of War, said: “The military has not prioritised getting this out there, there’s a sense that the military doesn’t want to get drawn into this theatre. And nobody has told them to.”
Discussions about air-dropping food into Aleppo and other besieged enclaves have been under way for months in Washington between US and UK officials, but have been stalled over inter-agency disagreements. Meanwhile, rebel-held eastern Aleppo has been overrun by pro-regime forces led by Lebanese Hezbollah and Iranian-led Shia militias supported by Russian and Syrian regime aerial bombardment. Failure to agree an enduring ceasefire has stopped road convoys from getting through for more than 150 days.
The UK shadow foreign secretary, Emily Thornberry, said: “The government has made clear in the past that it regards air drops as a last resort in Syria, but that is surely now the point that we have reached. I would urge the government to make every last effort, and explore every last option, to get food and medical supplies to the civilians trapped in east Aleppo before it becomes too late.”
In the UK 201 MPs from across the political spectrum have said they would vote to airdrop humanitarian aid into the city if a parliamentary vote was held on the issue.
The foreign office minister Tobias Ellwood stated during parliamentary questions on 28 November that there was “the possibility that a British aircraft could be shot down”.
It is unclear whether Ellwood was aware of the JPads proposal when he made the comments to parliament.
It is understood that the UK, France, and Germany all possess the capability to launch aid-dropping missions in this way, though the delivery system itself is only owned by the US.
Those on the ground have welcomed the call. Syrian Civil Defense maintains an active presence and has responded to a call for airdrops with the following statement: “The situation in Aleppo is desperate. We have the capacity to collect aid and deliver it to humanitarian organisations and hospitals as needed. We stand ready to help our people.”
Two engineering graduates from Aleppo University, Abdulrahman and Amr Shayah, launched an urgent appeal on Friday for JPads to be used to help the surviving civilians in the city.
“Parachutes have been used by the Russian and Syrian air forces to drop bombs … on civilian areas of the besieged city. Parachutes could be used to send urgently needed food and medical aid instead,” they said.
Alison McGovern, chair of Britain’s Syria all-party parliamentary group, said: “The government should be exploring all possible options to get aid to the desperate civilians on the ground … the government should come back to the House of Commons urgently with a plan that delivers the maximum amount of aid with the minimum risk to our armed forces.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... parachutes
Western diplomats have conceded that there are no technical obstacles to a plan to deliver airdrops of food and medicine to Aleppo using a GPS-guided parachute system, but the scheme has been stalled in the face of reluctance among military commanders and an absence of political will.
Diplomats and military from six governments – including the UK, US, France and Germany – have now seen the detailed operational plan proposed by an aid agency, which has been circulating among western officials for over a month.
The plan, which has been seen by the Guardian, relies on technology known as the the Joint Precision Airdrop System (JPads), which has been used by the US military since 2001 to supply troops in forward-offensive positions in areas of Afghanistan too difficult or dangerous to reach by road. It uses pallets dropped by parachute and guided by GPS navigation and a rudder.
According to the plan there are three identified feasible landing points inside east Aleppo. The main aim is to get some humanitarian supplies into the embattled and shrinking enclave to keep people alive in the hope that talks would lead to a longer-term solution.
The plan envisaged an initial delivery of 20 pallets and the flights could depart from RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus or the Incirlik air base in Turkey. The ICRC could potentially verify that packages were for humanitarian purposes alone.
Aircraft would keep within 25km of the Turkish border and always remain over opposition-controlled areas. The pallets can be dropped from around 25,000ft and have a drift zone of up to 25km, thereby overcoming the main objection to air drops: that it would bring Nato planes into range of Syrian and Russian jets and air defence systems.
However, although the plan has been generally embraced by diplomats, there has been resistance from western military officers.
“One military was so reticent they denied the capability even existed,” said a source familiar with the meetings. While the technology is currently only used by the US military, its existence is clearly noted on the manufacturer’s website.
Chris Harmer, retired naval aviator and a senior analyst at the Institute for the Study of War, said: “The military has not prioritised getting this out there, there’s a sense that the military doesn’t want to get drawn into this theatre. And nobody has told them to.”
Discussions about air-dropping food into Aleppo and other besieged enclaves have been under way for months in Washington between US and UK officials, but have been stalled over inter-agency disagreements. Meanwhile, rebel-held eastern Aleppo has been overrun by pro-regime forces led by Lebanese Hezbollah and Iranian-led Shia militias supported by Russian and Syrian regime aerial bombardment. Failure to agree an enduring ceasefire has stopped road convoys from getting through for more than 150 days.
The UK shadow foreign secretary, Emily Thornberry, said: “The government has made clear in the past that it regards air drops as a last resort in Syria, but that is surely now the point that we have reached. I would urge the government to make every last effort, and explore every last option, to get food and medical supplies to the civilians trapped in east Aleppo before it becomes too late.”
In the UK 201 MPs from across the political spectrum have said they would vote to airdrop humanitarian aid into the city if a parliamentary vote was held on the issue.
The foreign office minister Tobias Ellwood stated during parliamentary questions on 28 November that there was “the possibility that a British aircraft could be shot down”.
It is unclear whether Ellwood was aware of the JPads proposal when he made the comments to parliament.It is understood that the UK, France, and Germany all possess the capability to launch aid-dropping missions in this way, though the delivery system itself is only owned by the US.
Those on the ground have welcomed the call. Syrian Civil Defense maintains an active presence and has responded to a call for airdrops with the following statement: “The situation in Aleppo is desperate. We have the capacity to collect aid and deliver it to humanitarian organisations and hospitals as needed. We stand ready to help our people.”
Two engineering graduates from Aleppo University, Abdulrahman and Amr Shayah, launched an urgent appeal on Friday for JPads to be used to help the surviving civilians in the city.
“Parachutes have been used by the Russian and Syrian air forces to drop bombs … on civilian areas of the besieged city. Parachutes could be used to send urgently needed food and medical aid instead,” they said.
Alison McGovern, chair of Britain’s Syria all-party parliamentary group, said: “The government should be exploring all possible options to get aid to the desperate civilians on the ground … the government should come back to the House of Commons urgently with a plan that delivers the maximum amount of aid with the minimum risk to our armed forces.”
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-GEROMAN-
@GeromanAT
#Syria Battle for #Aleppo - Situation Map Update -
#SAA is renewing attack on #SheikSaeed !
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all actors are playing their parts in this drama
jihadis role is to keep shelling with hell cannons until they either run out of ammo or get killed - or usually both
erdoganji's role is to keep the rats fed and benched in euphrates shield, while in parallel blowing hot and cold on assad
russians role is to keep the usa engaged in endless talks until the last pocket is crushed
the USAs role is to keep talking and do nothing in the agreed upon dance with russia to talk talk talk while saa gains time to take it all
UK's role is to whine and come forth with proposals which nobody in D.C. wants to even read, let alone act on.
France's role is heave a sigh of relief that CDG with its 3 Rafales can go home now that GWB CVN is sailing to relieve it on station for mosul ops
all are playing their own interests and domestic lobbies.
jihadis role is to keep shelling with hell cannons until they either run out of ammo or get killed - or usually both
erdoganji's role is to keep the rats fed and benched in euphrates shield, while in parallel blowing hot and cold on assad
russians role is to keep the usa engaged in endless talks until the last pocket is crushed
the USAs role is to keep talking and do nothing in the agreed upon dance with russia to talk talk talk while saa gains time to take it all
UK's role is to whine and come forth with proposals which nobody in D.C. wants to even read, let alone act on.
France's role is heave a sigh of relief that CDG with its 3 Rafales can go home now that GWB CVN is sailing to relieve it on station for mosul ops
all are playing their own interests and domestic lobbies.
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SUKKARI on that map is probably the jihadis will make their last stand - looks like the most congested area.
sheikh saeed should fall soon - apparently no civilian lives there anymore and its just a ruin inhabited by jihadis only - so all firepower will be brought to bear . desert hawks have become active in this sector. the green belt of parks/river going through the pocket will be used to infiltrate and swarm into a lot of areas in parallel.
sheikh saeed should fall soon - apparently no civilian lives there anymore and its just a ruin inhabited by jihadis only - so all firepower will be brought to bear . desert hawks have become active in this sector. the green belt of parks/river going through the pocket will be used to infiltrate and swarm into a lot of areas in parallel.
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Poor Brit MPs.Parachuting relief supplies to Aleppo.What stopped them?Aren't the civilians Syrians in both sides trapped deserving of relief or only those with the humane ISIS and rebel jihadis?
What a bunch of weeping crocodiles!
What a bunch of weeping crocodiles!
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US intelligence agencies are preparing to flee from Aleppo to Turkey
Confidential information relating to the Aleppo and pretend to be a sensation, leaked to the press.
Confidential information relating to the Aleppo and pretend to be a sensation, leaked to the press.
Reporters learned about Washington's attempts to negotiate with Moscow on the organization of the security corridor in the eastern part of the city.
It is noted that the corridor is needed to for him to Turkey could run US intelligence and military advisers.
The purpose of the US high-ranking officials who are ready to negotiate with Russia, - to save US intelligence agent Abdel Karim Balalya and his colleague from the environment in eastern Aleppo, and then give them the opportunity to go on the road Castello border with Turkey. This sensational news spread Arabic website "Al-Hadas".
According to the agency, two security officers, whose name was not called, coordinated management of fighting the armed opposition against the Syrian army, and now, when the soldiers of these units leave one after the other neighborhoods of the second largest city in Syria, there is a possibility that an instructor or dies, or gets captured.
Earlier in the various social networks and news agencies it was reported that in Aleppo, a major center of the militants was destroyed, in which there were about 30 US citizens, Germany, Turkey and Israel, responsible for coordinating the actions of the militants and their training tactics of fighting. However, neither names nor to any special services they belonged to, were not known. And the first time you receive an American Muslim, Balale Abdel Karim, is located at the epicenter of the fighting, which fear for the safety of the American authorities.
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heavy clashes erupt on ukraine front
the DPR militia seem rather well equipped with a pile of kornets
https://southfront.org/heavy-clashes-er ... um=twitter
the DPR militia seem rather well equipped with a pile of kornets
https://southfront.org/heavy-clashes-er ... um=twitter
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SouthFront @southfronteng 3h3 hours ago
ISIS Launches Large-Scale Attack On Syrian Govt Forces Near Palmyra, Claims To Kill 60 Soldiers http://dlvr.it/Mr1YQT
ISIS Launches Large-Scale Attack On Syrian Govt Forces Near Palmyra, Claims To Kill 60 Soldiers http://dlvr.it/Mr1YQT
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kuznetsov TF seems to have docked in tartous port
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https://southfront.org/iraqi-special-fo ... um=twitter
photo essay of the heavy losses taken by the iraqi army in mosul.
misdirected usaf / nato bombing has also killed some 100 soldiers it seems
photo essay of the heavy losses taken by the iraqi army in mosul.
misdirected usaf / nato bombing has also killed some 100 soldiers it seems
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kuznetsov seen from tartous
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http://www.alraimedia.com/ar/article/sp ... 7/nr/syria
so the secret is out - fuah and kufraya are protected by holding hostage the jihadi owned enclaves of zabadani and madaya
i wonder how this will play out when the invasion of idlib starts...
so the secret is out - fuah and kufraya are protected by holding hostage the jihadi owned enclaves of zabadani and madaya
i wonder how this will play out when the invasion of idlib starts...
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Singha ji I wonder why do you call it a secret, most of the people studying syria conflict know about that deal.Singha wrote:http://www.alraimedia.com/ar/article/sp ... 7/nr/syria
so the secret is out - fuah and kufraya are protected by holding hostage the jihadi owned enclaves of zabadani and madaya
i wonder how this will play out when the invasion of idlib starts...
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hmm. never heard of it. or maybe forgot about it. I thought iran was paying them in $$
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ISIS is trying to take advantage of the situation by pushing on Palmyra and/or creating a diversion to save aleppo rebels as well.
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i wonder why they do not swap the residents of these 4 towns already - less headache for both sides.
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UK spy chief warns of Russia's role in Syria 'tragedy
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/08/europ ... index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/08/europ ... index.html
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beginning of British covert intervention in Sy: in what way , are tax payers aware of this?Austin wrote:UK spy chief warns of Russia's role in Syria 'tragedy
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/08/europ ... index.html
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Brits covert mission in Syria was always there , He is complaining now they had to run away from AleppoIndraD wrote:beginning of British covert intervention in Sy: in what way , are tax payers aware of this?Austin wrote:UK spy chief warns of Russia's role in Syria 'tragedy
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/08/europ ... index.html
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All the English Press Walah and Politicians are moaning about E Aleppo rout , They are taking Moderate Be-headers Defeat as their own personal defeat.
Just watch BBC and CNN to know what I mean.
Fund and Support Terrorist and then cry these folks gets defeated , Talk About Them Talking in early 90's About Being "A Honest Broker" on Kashmir Issue
Just watch BBC and CNN to know what I mean.
Fund and Support Terrorist and then cry these folks gets defeated , Talk About Them Talking in early 90's About Being "A Honest Broker" on Kashmir Issue
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BEIRUT, LEBANON (5:45 P.M.) - Palmyra (Tadmur) is facing a grave threat, as a large quantity of Islamic State terrorists attempt to enter this ancient desert city located in the eastern countryside of Homs.
ISIS has already seized several sites around the city today, including a number hilltops and checkpoints that were originally under the control of the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and National Defense Forces (NDF).
According to a military source in T-4 Airport, ISIS has already seized Jabal Hayyan (overlooks Palmyra) and the Al-Mahr Oil Fields (north of city) after overrunning the National Defense Forces defenses this afternoon.
The Syrian Arab Army, backed by the Russian Air Force, liberated Palmyra earlier this year; however, since its capture, the government forces have remained idle at this front.
The Russian Air Force has reportedly transferred 4 attack helicopters to the T-4 Airport in order to help drive the terrorist forces east towards Deir Ezzor.
ISIS has already seized several sites around the city today, including a number hilltops and checkpoints that were originally under the control of the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and National Defense Forces (NDF).
According to a military source in T-4 Airport, ISIS has already seized Jabal Hayyan (overlooks Palmyra) and the Al-Mahr Oil Fields (north of city) after overrunning the National Defense Forces defenses this afternoon.
The Syrian Arab Army, backed by the Russian Air Force, liberated Palmyra earlier this year; however, since its capture, the government forces have remained idle at this front.
The Russian Air Force has reportedly transferred 4 attack helicopters to the T-4 Airport in order to help drive the terrorist forces east towards Deir Ezzor.
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Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel 2h2 hours ago
Russian & Syrian air forces now pounding Jabal Hayyan. Some sources say absorbing attack. Others are panicking about possible besiegement
Russian & Syrian air forces now pounding Jabal Hayyan. Some sources say absorbing attack. Others are panicking about possible besiegement
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just the NDF alone will not be able to stand off against determined attacks and VBIEDs - past record proves it. they need more seasoned regular military units to stand with them.
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Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel 4h4 hours ago
Clashes in Aleppo has now spread to Bustan Al-Qasir. Gains overstated. Syrian Army is pushing to get them to surrender there and Sukkari.
Clashes in Aleppo has now spread to Bustan Al-Qasir. Gains overstated. Syrian Army is pushing to get them to surrender there and Sukkari.
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ME version dhoti shivering ...
Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel 5h5 hours ago
Syrian Army and NDF are too few in numbers at this front. Too many forces sitting idly in Aleppo. Poor allocation of military personnel.
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Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel 5h5 hours ago
Source in Homs: ISIS now attacking Al-Mahr Oil Fields.
Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel 5h5 hours ago
ISIS seizes Jazal Oil Fields 10km northwest of Palmyra. ISIS also seized several checkpoints southwest of Palmyra today. Big development.
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^^^ imo ISIS as usual is tactically brilliant and adventurous but strategically stupid. here in eastern Homs and Palmyra was a idle front, not under threat...instead of fortifying raqqa and fighting in Al-bab, they have activated these new fronts against a enemy who was tied up elsewhere and not attacking them...end result - syrians will send more forces there from aleppo, kill precious ISIS munnas who cannot easily be replaced and send them packing after a while.
Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel 5h5 hours ago
Syrian Army and NDF are too few in numbers at this front. Too many forces sitting idly in Aleppo. Poor allocation of military personnel.
15 replies 14 retweets 22 likes
Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel 5h5 hours ago
Source in Homs: ISIS now attacking Al-Mahr Oil Fields.
Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel 5h5 hours ago
ISIS seizes Jazal Oil Fields 10km northwest of Palmyra. ISIS also seized several checkpoints southwest of Palmyra today. Big development.
12 replies 88 retweets 35 likes
^^^ imo ISIS as usual is tactically brilliant and adventurous but strategically stupid. here in eastern Homs and Palmyra was a idle front, not under threat...instead of fortifying raqqa and fighting in Al-bab, they have activated these new fronts against a enemy who was tied up elsewhere and not attacking them...end result - syrians will send more forces there from aleppo, kill precious ISIS munnas who cannot easily be replaced and send them packing after a while.
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U.S.-Led Coalition Hits Main Mosul Hospital With Airstrike
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Just like the funeral processions and wedding parties in Yemen were a "legitimate military target", hospitals in Mosul (but not Aleppo) are also now added to the list. TSJones will be happy.
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no. not hospitals.nachiket wrote:Just like the funeral processions and wedding parties in Yemen were a "legitimate military target", hospitals in Mosul (but not Aleppo) are also now added to the list. TSJones will be happy.
funerals however are fair game. especially when big wigs show up.
you want to honor the dead? tough titty. wait until the war is over.
en garde evil doer.....
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Boris Johnson's Saudi 'proxy wars' comment 'not UK's view'
Downing Street has said Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson's comments on Saudi Arabia do not represent "the government's position".
CheersFootage has emerged from an event last week at which Mr Johnson said UK ally Saudi Arabia was engaging in "proxy wars" in the Middle East.
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UKs view is always obstructed by the fact its tongue is always kissing the saudi feet or licking some other regions that cannot be named here or head inside a gunny sack counting the days takings from saudi baksheesh account. so why blame them for not being able to see properly.
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Peto Lucem @PetoLucem 8h8 hours ago
NEW MAP: #ISIS forces launched a series of attacks in Eastern #Homs Governorate in order to isolate and capture #Palmyra city. #Syria
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http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-projec ... th-produce
British Govt-Funded Outlet Offered Journalist $17,000 a Month to Produce Propaganda for Syrian Rebels
Emails reveal that a popular source for mainstream Western media is a U.K.-backed propaganda outlet.
The Revolutionary Forces of Syria (RFS) media office, a major Syrian opposition media outfit and frequent source of information for Western media, is funded by the British government and is managed by Westerners operating out of Turkey, according to emails provided to AlterNet by a Middle East reporter RFS tried to recruit.
British Govt-Funded Outlet Offered Journalist $17,000 a Month to Produce Propaganda for Syrian Rebels
Emails reveal that a popular source for mainstream Western media is a U.K.-backed propaganda outlet.
The Revolutionary Forces of Syria (RFS) media office, a major Syrian opposition media outfit and frequent source of information for Western media, is funded by the British government and is managed by Westerners operating out of Turkey,
according to emails provided to AlterNet by a Middle East reporter RFS tried to recruit.