Levant crisis - III

Bhurishravas · Post by **Bhurishravas** » 29 Dec 2016 01:59

Y. Kanan wrote: The Russians were pushed into an alliance with China not just by years of US hostility but also due to India switching to US military purchases over that same time period. All those multi billion dollar Indian acquisitions helped push Russia into the Chinese camp. The last decade or so of Indian govts definitely played a big role in creating this new Russo-Sino-Pak chumminess.

It turns out that cozying up to Uncle Sam at Russia's expense actually did have consequences, despite the protestations of many sage BRF-ites that we could have our cake and eat it, too. I warned against this us taking this path for years and I still think we bet on the wrong horse.

When India was purchasing weapons from Russia, Moscow wasnt selling any to China?! Moscow was happy to hug china irrespective of any Indian concerns.
India continues to buy bulk of its military supplies from Russia, but a few contracts not going their way has pissed the Russians sufficiently to get pally with Pakistan. We should continue to buy from Russia so as to ensure their friendship!! What kind of friendship is that?!
India went into the USSR camp because of US insistence of `either with us or against us` logic in 50s and 60s. If Russia insists on the same today, we should be happy to make friends wherever we want. Independent foreign policy (military acquisitions included) are a prerogative of the Indian govt and should remain so.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Dec 2016 02:51

Mosul update

It is impossible to say when Iraqi military operations aimed at recapturing Mosul from the Daesh terrorist group will wrap up, according to a high-ranking U.S. army officer.
"It would be very difficult to accurately predict how long it will take to liberate either the eastern part of the city or Mosul in its entirety," the coalition spokesman asserted.

He went on to say that the ongoing fight for Mosul "is not a race", stressing that it would be "a hard battle for any army on this planet [to retake the city], including the U.S. Army".

Nevertheless, he was quick to emphasize that the terrorists who remain holed up in Mosul were surrounded by "superior force".

http://aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/-diffic ... cer/715628

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Dec 2016 02:54

Tensions in western Mosul as sniper kills son of IS-appointed governor

Nineveh (IraqiNews.com) A state of tension is predominating the western town of Tal Afar, Mosul, after the assassination of the town’s Islamic State-appointed wali (governor), with several armed groups belonging to the group deployed in the streets.

A local source told Alsumaria News that Ossama, the son of Abul Alaa al-Atri, was shot dead by a sniper near his residence. He said the incident infuriated the militants who blamed local fighters from the group for the killing.

Local sources had said earlier this month that divisions grew among IS fighters as the group’s supreme leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, had excluded Iraqi fighters from commanding the current battles with Iraqi government and popular forces, instead assigning foreign fighters to the lead.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Dec 2016 02:58

RT ‏@RT_com 19m19 minutes ago
Russian sappers sweep #Aleppo for mines, discovering shells made in US, Germany https://on.rt.com/7z23

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 29 Dec 2016 09:16

IndraD wrote:RT ‏@RT_com 19m19 minutes ago
Russian sappers sweep #Aleppo for mines, discovering shells made in US, Germany https://on.rt.com/7z23

Must be pre-Christmas gift from Western Nations

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 29 Dec 2016 11:37

IIRC, some time back there was a lot of anxiety whether Aleppo would be liberated (sorry, last kitten shelter genocided by poison gas) before BO left the WHOTUS.

Now the issue is whether the Debacles of Mosul and al Bab will be complete. I think Palmyra is going to get cleaned up again in short order - this time the Russkys know where the tunnels are, to send a few fuel-air missiles into them.

BO's desperation is showing in the utterly blatant support for IS being ordered by NATO. What are the Generals thinking I wonder, as they refuse to blast the ISIS who are in their full view. And they know that in 3 weeks' time the new Administration is going to be on a *itch-hunt for those who failed to prosecute the war against ISIS - despite officially announced US policy being to annihilate ISIS. The inter-Jarnail backstabbing knives are going to be out and sharp.

Note that present joys with Turkey are also because the ******* *ucked up the simple job of running a coup in a Paki-like capital. With most of the Air Force and the best units of the Army on their side!! :
That was like Bay of Pigs x 10.

The thieves have fallen out, with each accusing the other in public of being the source of ISIS. Both are right.

I think I am beginning to see the real reason for the rage against Russkie hacking/snooping.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Dec 2016 12:14

What is the real reason? Hacking came. out after elections and eminent retake of Alleppo.

Bhurishravas · Post by **Bhurishravas** » 29 Dec 2016 13:21

IndraD wrote:Tensions in western Mosul as sniper kills son of IS-appointed governor

Nineveh (IraqiNews.com) A state of tension is predominating the western town of Tal Afar, Mosul, after the assassination of the town’s Islamic State-appointed wali (governor), with several armed groups belonging to the group deployed in the streets.

Isnt Tal Afar the town where Erdoo bhai has asked the iraqis to desist from entering because it is apparently a turkmen town?! Otherwise he would intervene.

Bhurishravas · Post by **Bhurishravas** » 29 Dec 2016 13:37

Iran and Turkey had reportedly agreed on a ceasefire deal and a solution to the crisis, according to which there was supposed to be internationally observed elections after ceasefire. The role of Assad was were the problem emerged with turkey insisting that Assad cannot stand for elections while Iran maintained that if the elections are internationally observed, there is no logic in denying assad his right to stand for elections.
Here - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... 3-and-2016

I wonder if after the military victory of Assad in Aleppo, Russians and Iranians will act silly and force Assad into accepting internationally observed elections where he is just one of the candidates. That would be one big win for Erdogan and Turkey.
Turkey on its part is continuing to act smart. Turkish foreign minister had this to say -

But he still insisted that Syrian president Bashar al-Assad must eventually go, a precondition for talks that Russia has always opposed.

Here- https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... -ceasefire

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 29 Dec 2016 13:58

Russia strategic interest in Syria spans Assad and they would guard their interest irrespective Assad is there or not same goes for Iran.

So any election the winning candidate will ensure their interest is protected or they wont be in contention.

UN is jst a cover up used by Major power to guard their interest , look at Election in Iraq or Afghanistan held under UN etc

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 29 Dec 2016 17:07

ramana wrote:What is the real reason? Hacking came. out after elections and eminent retake of Alleppo.

Putin got advance warning of Turkey coup. All the noise about election hacking is garbage, even GOTUS admits that machines were **NOT** compromised. So then what was the "hacking"? Only the revelation of truths that the government wanted to hide from the voter. Even that is attributed to DNC and other insiders.

Which leaves the only option: the rage about the coup being blown. SURELY there must have been a deep investigation into how that happened, and Russky hand would have shown. That was not Snowden or Assange or that poor guy-turned-into gal in tthe dungeons. In one stroke, a GOTUS bright idea turned into total disaster in the ME. Turkey turning 180 degrees from NATO, and Europe not really protesting. KSA and Qatar now look absolutely exposed and surrounded. I have not figured out the correlation with the Israel settlements vote (Nut&Yahoo says the resolution was INSTIGATED and pushed by the US!!) So there is a total fall-out of thieves re: ISIS. And a recent report says Putin is backing a warlord who is winning fast in Libya as well. While Kerry mumbles around with the ISIS stuck squarely up his musharraf - and getting kicked there by everyone.

One sure sign is that neither Lavrov nor Putin have so much as opened their mouths in English about the Turkey coup. If they had nothing to do with blowing it, they would at least have made a few nasty statements blaming the US just for the fun of it.

Bhurishravas · Post by **Bhurishravas** » 29 Dec 2016 17:34

Austin wrote:Russia strategic interest in Syria spans Assad and they would guard their interest irrespective Assad is there or not same goes for Iran.

So any election the winning candidate will ensure their interest is protected or they wont be in contention.

UN is jst a cover up used by Major power to guard their interest , look at Election in Iraq or Afghanistan held under UN etc

An election can throw up surprise victors Like Morsi in Egypt. I wouldnt be so sure of major powers successfuly guarding their interests through elections at least.
In middle east, the struggle is between democratic islamists like Erdogan and autocratic seculars like Assad or Sisi. Of course there are many autocratic islamists as well. Democracy tends to sharpen identity politics. With a sunni majority in Syria, it could well be a sunni islamist at the helm after the elections.
Democracy is not always good, unless the interests of all communities is safeguarded through other means.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 29 Dec 2016 18:09

Bhurishravas wrote:
Austin wrote:Russia strategic interest in Syria spans Assad and they would guard their interest irrespective Assad is there or not same goes for Iran.

So any election the winning candidate will ensure their interest is protected or they wont be in contention.

UN is jst a cover up used by Major power to guard their interest , look at Election in Iraq or Afghanistan held under UN etc
An election can throw up surprise victors Like Morsi in Egypt. I wouldnt be so sure of major powers successfuly guarding their interests through elections at least.
In middle east, the struggle is between democratic islamists like Erdogan and autocratic seculars like Assad or Sisi. Of course there are many autocratic islamists as well. Democracy tends to sharpen identity politics. With a sunni majority in Syria, it could well be a sunni islamist at the helm after the elections.
Democracy is not always good, unless the interests of all communities is safeguarded through other means.

Egypt case was different there was no civil war for years there but just internal power struggle and MB was not liked by its own people.

Syrian case is different and I am sure beyond Assad there would be others in the game who would want to form a coilation government , but that's a long shot , I don't see how in next 3-4 years there could be election there if at all there is one in near term.

Russian Iran Iraq and it's supporters would have gamed in post Assad scenario be that happen during conflict or after election when that happens.

Clearly with boots on ground and airpower of Shi'a led forces in ME it's about might is right

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Dec 2016 19:07

The 'Nimr' Tiger ‏@Souria4Syrians 8m8 minutes ago
Huge explosion in Souran-Azaz in North Aleppo. Many dead & injured among Euphrates Shield jihadists & Turkish agents

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Dec 2016 19:19

Syria conflict: Ceasefire agreed, backed by Russia and Turkey http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38460127

how ever Turkey wants Hezbollah to leave Sy which Sy is opposed to : in return Turk will not ask for Assad to go. Russia apparently has agreed to these points.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 29 Dec 2016 21:23

Sounds like BBC propaganda/coverup of UK humiliation. I don't see that Erdogan has any cards to demand Assad ouster: his own musharraf is a lot shakier than Assad's. His vaunted military might is being humiliated in Al Bab, he is begging for foreign air cover and even accepted RuAF air cover as a last desperate measure.

So Russian Generals, whatever they may think of Assad, would **NOT** allow Erdogan to make any demands. Erdogan is the one who needs a ceasefire in Syria - to try and pull his stalled tanks out of Al Bab before they are all destroyed.

I'll believe it when I see it on RT.com

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Dec 2016 22:07

Is it possible they have returned with consent of European govt?

disguised as refugees and able to cross borders without being identified: ISIS general who blew up a hostage with a rocket and decapitated another prisoner is 'back in Europe with 400 soldiers' after fleeing Syria
Kosovan Lavdrim Muhaxheri is 'back in Europe with 400 of his trusted soldiers'
Intelligence source says men disguised themselves as refugees to reach Europe
Ex-NATO soldier fled from Syria warzone after ISIS suffered huge military loses
He left for Syria in late 2012 and has appeared in several propaganda videos
Intelligence sources say they 'disguised themselves as refugees' to reach Europe

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4UFHMbNyJ

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Dec 2016 22:12

Seven people arrested on suspicion of planning ISIS attacks on New Year's Eve revellers in Moscow

A FSB agents pins down a suspect

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 30 Dec 2016 05:19

top commander of IS killed in US air strike in Raqqa http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/29 ... s-say.html

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 30 Dec 2016 05:38

IndraD wrote:Syria conflict: Ceasefire agreed, backed by Russia and Turkey http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38460127

how ever Turkey wants Hezbollah to leave Sy which Sy is opposed to : in return Turk will not ask for Assad to go. Russia apparently has agreed to these points.

The 'Nimr' Tiger ‏@Souria4Syrians 15m15 minutes ago
BREAKING: Jihadists broke ceasefire and attacked Tal Biju using the ceasefire to creep towards SAA checkpoints. Clashes ongoing #Hama now
Tal Biju taken over by IS.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 30 Dec 2016 06:45

Forget Mosul even Raqqa is proving difficult for US coalition !

With a prewar population of about 220,000, Raqqa is about one-tenth the size of Mosul, but commanders still face the same challenges of waging an air war while minimizing risks to civilians in a congested city.

US dependent on air surveillance mostly for lack of ground intelligence in Mosul & Raqqa

But with few spies in the city, US officials say assessing the enemy is difficult.
"We've spent a lot of time trying to understand the situation on the ground in Raqqa," Lt. Gen. Jeffrey L. Harrigian, air war commander, said in an interview from his headquarters in Qatar. "It's improving. It's still not at the level we'd like it to be."
The air operation is a pivotal component of a military campaign that has cost $12.5 million per day in Iraq and Syria. The effort has destroyed hundreds of tanks, artillery pieces, military vehicles, command centers and fighting positions, and killed more than 50,000 fighters, according to US estimates. Since the air war began in late summer 2014, US and allied aircraft have conducted about 17,000 strikes in both countries.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 186286.cms

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2016 07:15

https://mobile.twitter.com/maytham956/s ... 72/photo/1

Hezbollah conducting targeted ops on rebel idlib leaders

I don't think Iran will accept all these militias allied to it be pushed out of Syria based on Erdogan demands

Erdogan has delivered nothing great so far

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2016 07:30

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BEIRUT, LEBANON (2:15 P.M.) - Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said during a press conference on Thursday that his government is considering the partial withdrawal of their armed forces from the Humaymim Military Airport in southern Latakia.

This statement by Sergei Lavrov comes just hours after the Russian and Turkish governments agreed to the terms regarding the implementation of a nationwide ceasefire in Syria.

Russia has withdrawn some air assets and military personnel from the Humaymim Airport in the past; however, this redeployment only lasted for a few months due to the increased demand for Russian aircraft.

Regardless if the partial withdrawal does happen, the Russian military is still committed to fighting the Islamic State and other terrorist groups across Syria.

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I can’t believe that Putin is so desperate to seem powerful and effective on the ‘world stage’ that he’s willing to risk pulling a ‘Bush’; but, then, desperation does as desperation is. He’s so anxious to cut and run and fly a “Mission Accomplished” banner that he can’t see the probable negative consequences.

This has all been theater for Putin; and the ending just might be tragic, both for Syria, and for Putin’s dream! Should this adventure fail, no one will ever take Putin seriously, again; not even in desperation.

I guess this all should have become obvious when Putin was so willing to accommodate the Zionist apartheid state’s “security concerns” while supposedly defending Syrian territorial integrity. This demonstrates, clearly, why Iran is turning more to China and away from Russia. Putin is a purely Machiavellian sociopath, and not a particularly clever one, at that.

Sorry for the “book”, .338!

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2016 07:30

Putin is the next inder gujral

He will give away in talks what Syrians shed blood to achieve

Assad had better fall in with his iranian friends and not trust the new russo turkish axis. Idlib as a caliphate will bite him very bad

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 Dec 2016 07:55

Saudi Arabia has 100,000 air-conditioned tents sitting empty, still won’t take Syrian refugees

As Saudi Arabia faces mounting criticism for refusing to take in any of the millions of Syrians fleeing conflict in their homeland, it was revealed this weekend that the country has over 100,000 empty, air-conditioned tents that could house up to 3 million refugees.The tents, located roughly 2,150 miles from Syria in the city of Mina, are only used a few days a year to house pilgrims on their way to Mecca for the hajj, the news station TeleSUR reported.The huge tents are also fireproof and equipped with kitchen and bathroom facilities.But while Europe struggles to find space to take in the millions of asylum seekers making the perilous journey there, Saudi Arabia has been largely unresponsive to the crisis.According to the to the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), there are about 500,000 Syrians living in Saudi Arabia, but they are not classified as asylum seekers and it is not known when they arrived in the country.

Other reports indicate that Saudi Arabia has not taken in any new refugees, along with Kuwait, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.

As someone has observed it is part of a long term strategy to demographically change the status of Europe from Dar-ul-Harb to Dar-ul- Islam !

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 30 Dec 2016 11:24

I think any deal that brings peace in Syria is a good deal even if it means dealing with Turkey and involves some give and take , Wars can always go on for years and terrorism can go on for decades and many innocent people will end up dying for no fault of theirs and many armed personal too , Look at our own Kashmir or Afghanistan.

What is certain about such conflict is that Border States play a key role and a final deal maker , The likes of Saudis ,Barhain , US etc cant do much if they dont have any border state helping them and in case of Syria its Turkey , So deal with the Devil Directly rather then its sponsors.

Look at Saudi influence in Iraq which it borders and how Saudis funds terrorist in IS and US has been fighting the so called terrorist for the past 12 years and counting and all at cost of innocent Iraqi civilians

Look at our own conflict in Kashmir or in Afghanistan , The Devil that is pakistan still holds the high card when it comes to voilence for the simple fact that they share the borders with India and Afghanistan , Unless we can deal with the Devil or Cut the Devil in its enterity there cant be any peace.

Russian Foreign policy is very pragmatic , it aims for stability and then it aims influence , there are no black and white in real world but also shades of gray one has to deal with , no idealism but real hard politick

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 30 Dec 2016 13:59

The new Russia-Turkey axis : who gets what :

What Turkey gets :
Ru turns a blind eye to Turkey neutralising Kurds and militant groups associated . Including SDF, these are US backed groups who have given lots of trouble to Turk in past.
Turk also gets Ru air support (evident now).

What Russia gets :

US IGNORED ! Putin's massive ego satiated!
Turk moves out of West orbit (NATO) into Russia's this is spit on face of US, Ru is loving it! Doesn't matter if Turk has become Sunni radicalised.

Syria?
May lose territory & soldiers in new gambit!

Iran
Is watching from sides hoping things will not fall aprt and Shia dominance is maintained. Saudi continues to get weakened.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2016 14:02

Creating a Pakistan in idlib next to punjab ie latakia does not sound like a wise long term.decision to me...though its tempting to take a peace deal due to war fatigue.

Maybe turkey usa russia are in sync about the need to attack isis from all fronts first and keep rest of region quiet.

Syria is moving men and materials to north hama and east homs now.

So idlib offensive stands postponed

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2016 14:21

also the rebels are a conveniently heterogenous mix - who keep on renaming and reforming into new coalitions like molecules and atoms.

x,y,z will pretend to be dharmic ceasefire adherents and "bad talib" a,b,c will launch terror attacks. and vice versa.

I fear the next phase will see brutal car bomb attacks on civilians in the coastal cities if these serpents are allowed to roost in Idlib pissfully.

already first they disrupted damascus water supply for a week by damaging the headworkds in wadi barada and dumping diesel and pesticide. now they have disrupted the gas supply to damascus by unknown means - in the dead of winter.

"creative" rebels can always find some knobs to inflict pain if allowed to setup a permanent turkish/NATO protected quasi caliphate in Idlib.

Assad needs to withdraw the agreements related to Russian bases if putin does not keep syrian interests first and foremost at the table. being a condom of bigger powers playing their games is just going to hurt his people.

he really owes nothing to turkey other than payback for setting his country on fire. he should probably seek a alliance with the Kurds and make sure they are well armed and ready to be a PITA to any permanent thoughts of a turkoman partition of syria under the garb of euphrates shield.

from Kurd pov, they can live and trade with assadists under a loose federal system, but they cannot work at al with turks and their proxies. between two rough choices, assad looks better. the third option of a US sponsored rojava has already been betrayed the moment the US allowed turkey to start its euphrates shield and not lift one finger as turkey continues to hound and oppress the kurds in its border lands. towns have been razed and even livestock killed off in a bid to force a exodus and create lebensraum for land hungry turkomans. after expending blood and treasure to take raqqa, the kurds will be told to stay out as its a arab town and only arab tribes should rule over arab towns.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2016 16:29

US has expelled no less than 35 russian diplomats and closed 2 "compounds" giving them 72 hrs to depart.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2016 16:43

mosul and raqqa ops are plodding along

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2016 16:45

SDF has only limited forces capable of going toe to toe with ISIS and they have a lot of ground to cover, so local tribes and militias are slowly being trained as they go along to act as police, garrisons, to secure lines of supply etc.

ISIS shows no sign of abandoning al-bab on the west coast and SAA has so far not taken up any offensive in eastern aleppo

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 30 Dec 2016 17:12

Singha wrote:US has expelled no less than 35 russian diplomats and closed 2 "compounds" giving them 72 hrs to depart.

That is Ombaba Parting Gift to Putin

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 30 Dec 2016 17:46

Russia Will Respond to US Sanctions on Russia Over Alleged Hacking - Lavrov

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/politics/201612 ... ns-lavrov/

"The outgoing US administration of Barack Obama, accusing Russia of all mortal sins, trying to blame us for the failure of its foreign policy initiatives among others, as you know, groundlessly pushed further allegations that Russia intervened in the US election campaign at the national level," Lavrov told reporters.

The Russian Foreign Ministry proposed Russian President Vladimir Putin to expel 31 staff members of the US Embassy in Moscow and 4 workers of the US consulate in St. Petersburg, Lavrov said.

US administration's manners are quite obvious. In this and in another cases, the compounds were meant to let children rest there during winter holidays, traditionally, camps have been opened there and these compounds have been declared 'spy nests', as I understood according to the statements of the US administration. We, of course, cannot leave these tricks [new US sanctions against Russia] unanswered. Reciprocity is the law of diplomacy and foreign relations," Lavrov said.

Lavrov said that the Foreign Ministry also offered to ban US diplomats from using Serebryany Bor retreat near Moscow.

Y. Kanan · Post by **Y. Kanan** » 31 Dec 2016 03:33

Bhurishravas wrote:
Y. Kanan wrote: The Russians were pushed into an alliance with China not just by years of US hostility but also due to India switching to US military purchases over that same time period. All those multi billion dollar Indian acquisitions helped push Russia into the Chinese camp. The last decade or so of Indian govts definitely played a big role in creating this new Russo-Sino-Pak chumminess.

It turns out that cozying up to Uncle Sam at Russia's expense actually did have consequences, despite the protestations of many sage BRF-ites that we could have our cake and eat it, too. I warned against this us taking this path for years and I still think we bet on the wrong horse.
When India was purchasing weapons from Russia, Moscow wasnt selling any to China?! Moscow was happy to hug china irrespective of any Indian concerns.
India continues to buy bulk of its military supplies from Russia, but a few contracts not going their way has pissed the Russians sufficiently to get pally with Pakistan. We should continue to buy from Russia so as to ensure their friendship!! What kind of friendship is that?!
India went into the USSR camp because of US insistence of `either with us or against us` logic in 50s and 60s. If Russia insists on the same today, we should be happy to make friends wherever we want. Independent foreign policy (military acquisitions included) are a prerogative of the Indian govt and should remain so.

It's not that simple and you know this; suffice to say that successive Indian govt's definitely contributed to the current realignment taking place and left us worse off than we were already. You and I will have to agree to disagree as this is not even the correct thread for it. This is a topic for the Geopolitical thread, not here.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 31 Dec 2016 08:37

agitpapa ‏@agitpapa
@mtndln21 Al Bab: Big ISIS attack on Turks tonight after both sides built up forces for 2-3 days. Claim 10-15 Turks killed by VBIED.

agitpapa
7h
agitpapa ‏@agitpapa
Tayyip is handing over 2 Chechen terrorists to Putin tomorrow: Imran Midaev & Soburali Kujulov.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 31 Dec 2016 08:41

The 'Nimr' Tiger – ‏@Souria4Syrians

3 "rebel" warcriminals were assassinated in Idlib today. Unclear who did it but Russian newspaper izvestia suspect its pro-SAA sleeper cells

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 31 Dec 2016 10:19

russian trooper found wandering in aleppo with hezbollahi patch...

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 31 Dec 2016 10:20

the real hezbollah are very camera shy though..no grp photos or selfies unlike other formations.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 31 Dec 2016 10:22

BTW, Putin dramatically nixed Lavrov's demand to retaliate against US diplos.
Meanwhile 'Zee is confronting the "spy agints" who claim that Putin is bad. Stay tuned,tamasha not over. Zee has a tough act of brinkmanship to do, to restore good relations with Russia while looking "tough on Reds" to the RightWing. My guess is that he MIGHT point to Russia's role as Onward Xtian Soldiers, but I don't know how that can be done under the radar.
BO has set it up so that if 'Zee relaxes the sanctions he looks like a commie Roosky agint. This calls for some KellyAnn Conway trapeze acts. Are they really going to declare the Spy Agency Heads to be dolts and ask for broad resignations?