Well, in the same tone "who cares about free markets if you can't afford health care?"KJo wrote:.. I mean lobbied to allow this hollowing of US IT industry in the name of capitalism and "free markets". Who cares about free markets if you are unemployed after all the education and experience?
I agree, and BTW, apologies to amitkv. I quoted you in firing off a rant, but in no way intended that your post was bad!!!! Yours was actually a sensible post, a rarity these days on these threads.amitkv wrote:This whole thread has been derailed by h1b discussion. Maybe a nukkard or h1b thread is more appropriate for this discussion.
'selective listening' is a term used to describe this...people only hear what they want to hear and simply ignore all else or explain it away as 'oh that's just stuff he says to get to power, he will only do what I think he will do or what I want him to do'A_Gupta wrote:Trump has gamed the US income tax and bankruptcy laws. Similarly Trump has used the services of innumerable small businesses and then not paid them, and held them at bay with his formidable legal team. Trump University was a fraud.
Indian IT companies have legally gamed the H1-B system, and so may have some of the workers.
The varied reactions to these two sets of facts is fascinating to observe.
ICE agents will be enforcing laws put in place during the George W. Bush administration and changed in the Obama administration that will allow them to identify and remove people here legally who are convicted of a certain group of crimes and people here illegally and in police custody for any reason
People in the U.S. legally with a green card, but have a conviction of certain offenses -- domestic violence, unlawful carrying of a weapon, multiple thefts, possession of a controlled substance – will be placed in deportation proceedings.
A government attorney disclosed during a Friday hearing in federal court in Virginia that 100,000 visas have been revoked in the chaos generated by President Donald Trump signing an executive order on immigration last week.
The State Department told the Associated Press, however, that the actual number of revoked visas is less than 60,000 and that the number given out in court Friday likely included exempt visa holders like "diplomatic and other visas that were actually exempted by the travel ban."
In a statement to TPM, State Department Bureau of Consular Affairs spokesman William Cocks said the number of revoked visas was less than 60,000.
"Fewer than 60,000 individuals’ visas were provisionally revoked to comply with the Executive Order," Cocks said in the statement. "We recognize that those individuals are temporarily inconvenienced while we conduct our review under the Executive Order. To put that number in context, we issued over 11 million immigrant and non-immigrant visas in fiscal year 2015. As always, national security is our top priority when issuing visas."
The Washington Post first reported that in court Friday morning, a the government's lawyer explained that 100,000 visas had been revoted, but it was unclear how many of those visa holders had been returned to their home countries. Now, the number itself appears to be in question.
The court case in Virginia centers around two Yemeni men who landed Saturday at Dulles Airport and were returned to Ethiopia. They were detained coming to the United States to be with their father, who is a U.S. citizen in Michigan, and were then "coerced into renouncing their claims to legal permanent residence in the United States," according to the Post.
The US wrestling team won't be able to compete in this month's Freestyle World Cup in Iran because visas were denied to its members,
This Stern is a class A jerk himself, hain? I think Trump may not mind handing over to Bernie Sanders after he does what he set out to do, which is to sign 100 Executive Orders in a month. One day he will look in the mirror and imagine having to kiss snot-nosed babies instead of P.B.'s for the next 3.9 years and that is going to send him over the edge. Probably will sign an Exec Order closing the WHOTUS and moving to Atlantic City.He's pissed he won. He still wants Hillary Clinton to win. He's so f—ing pissed, he's hoping that he can find some voter fraud and hand it over to Hillary."
And that Trump is his good friend shows what a jerk Trump himself is.UlanBatori wrote:This Stern is a class A jerk himself, hain?He's pissed he won. He still wants Hillary Clinton to win. He's so f—ing pissed, he's hoping that he can find some voter fraud and hand it over to Hillary."
where?UlanBatori wrote:Keep fingers crossed or whatever through midnight CST. 80,000+ evil Great Satanites congregating in one nice confined space. They HAVE banned all aircraft flight including drones, and grounded one who tried flying over the practice field. Declared a No Drone Zone. But have they declared it a No Truck Zone? Stay out of the city is my advice.
Good thing it is not in Rooskystan.
Scare-mongering.A_Gupta wrote:Rural areas in Georgia are going to be even shorter of physicians than they are now, because Americans don't want to work as primary care physicians in rural areas; and most of the physicians are immigrants; and of these, a significant percentage are from the Trump-banned countries. These rural areas are, of course, strongly pro-Trump.
http://www.wnyc.org/story/immigrant-doc ... ation-ban/
Good riddance if true. In many of these states, from AZ to FL, pakis and BDs have taken over these areas from state prisons to native american territories. Singha had earlier posted a link about opoid issues and these rural facilities combined with similar community running pharmacy joints are huge part of it. Like Kakkaji said, that India may become a benefactor of this if these pakis et al are sent home packing.A_Gupta wrote:Rural areas in Georgia are going to be even shorter of physicians than they are now, because Americans don't want to work as primary care physicians in rural areas; and most of the physicians are immigrants; and of these, a significant percentage are from the Trump-banned countries. These rural areas are, of course, strongly pro-Trump.
http://www.wnyc.org/story/immigrant-doc ... ation-ban/
This year's matching process of residencies is already in disarray. Do listen to the broadcast.Kakkaji wrote:Scare-mongering.A_Gupta wrote:Rural areas in Georgia are going to be even shorter of physicians than they are now, because Americans don't want to work as primary care physicians in rural areas; and most of the physicians are immigrants; and of these, a significant percentage are from the Trump-banned countries. These rural areas are, of course, strongly pro-Trump.
http://www.wnyc.org/story/immigrant-doc ... ation-ban/
Doctors from India alone can fill all the vacancies caused by the ban on these 7 countries.
It is the same line that was taken by Angela Merkel - that she wanted to let in the refugees from Middle East and North Africa or else there will not be enough labour to fill the jobs in Germany. Heck, she can fill all those jobs if she allows in immigrants from India - and they will not be driving trucks in crowds either.
doctors from India are never found in India.Kakkaji wrote:Scare-mongering.A_Gupta wrote:Rural areas in Georgia are going to be even shorter of physicians than they are now, because Americans don't want to work as primary care physicians in rural areas; and most of the physicians are immigrants; and of these, a significant percentage are from the Trump-banned countries. These rural areas are, of course, strongly pro-Trump.
http://www.wnyc.org/story/immigrant-doc ... ation-ban/
Doctors from India alone can fill all the vacancies caused by the ban on these 7 countries.
So very true. And so sad that encouraging the deployment of Indian workers overseas seems to have become a central plank even in Indian think tanks and in fact even with GOI. Of course it is no surprise that it is a priority for the Indian body shopping industry!!UlanBatori wrote: Because Indian companies are too lazy to invest in developing their own and beating the world with those. So much easier to body-shop someone to do the grunt work at those companies, and sit back and collect the money saved by cheating them out of a decent world-class wage for wold-class work.
Hey, how about ensuring that Indian per capita income surpasses China in the next 10 years. Because that will ensure that all Indians, especially those living in India benefit from a higher wage. And will ensure that skilled workers will stay in India to contribute their skills without sacrificing anything in terms of income. Or that is not a priority because then what will happen to the wage arbitrage which is the basis for the business model for the Indian IT industry.Flowing from these, we can identify three major priorities for Indian foreign policy. For starters, India can no longer presume to benefit automatically from globalization. Our trade policy will have to be a lot more nimble in the years ahead to face the challenge of slowing globalization and related developments like China’s Belt and Road Initiative (an international transport network that aims to connect the continents of Asia, Africa and Europe). We would also need to focus on building our domestic markets and integrating the rest of South Asia with it. And we have to ensure the international mobility of our skilled workers.
What next? COLT Peacemaker factory refuses to fly Old Glory? Beef Jerky + Spitting Tobaccer/Chewing Gum Factory bans baseball caps, red pickups and checked flannel Logger shirts and requires long skirts and high heels instead?President Donald Trump will not head to Milwaukee for a previously scheduled visit of a Harley-Davidson factory after the company decided it wasn't comfortable
Trump had been scheduled to tour the factory Thursday where he also planned to sign executive orders related to American manufacturing.
Ulanbatori - You're conflating two different issues.UlanBatori wrote: Not to interrupt the hate-fest, but I think the point about sdre companies "gaming" etc was not sanctimonious re: US interests, but the fact that they chose to sit back and get fat (sfdre?) on the low-hanging fruit rather than scramble up the food chain and to higher levels in the floodplain. <SNIP>
rohit, it you are talking about me, come out and say it. Why hide behind calling me "people"?rohitvats wrote:Ulanbatori - You're conflating two different issues.UlanBatori wrote: Not to interrupt the hate-fest, but I think the point about sdre companies "gaming" etc was not sanctimonious re: US interests, but the fact that they chose to sit back and get fat (sfdre?) on the low-hanging fruit rather than scramble up the food chain and to higher levels in the floodplain. <SNIP>
One is about the lack of innovation by Indian IT/ITES companies and not doing anything to rise-up the value chain. That is a business call and your mango SDRE H1B visa holder working in US is not exactly responsible for it. I can understand the lament about IT/ITES sector in general and missed opportunities due to myopic business calls. But can't fathom the logic somersault to somehow pin that to the chest of IT/ITES 'Coolie' working in India or USA.
Second is the 'LOOOOOVVVEEEE' that some PIO with American citizenship on this forum tend to show for these mango 'Coolies' working in USA on H1B visa. That has and had nothing to do with lack of innovation by Indian IT/ITES companies; it was pure and simple whine-fest about these cyber Coolies disrupting their big American dream. The hate-fest is there.
For them, restriction on H1B visa might mean better pay and more opportunities. Be that as it may, people at least should've guts to spell it out as it is. And not couch it in some BS about how Indians had it coming because they aren't good enough. And how each of them 'Gundaswamy' and 'Keshavraju' are worthless pile of sh1t.
As I said earlier, it is perfectly all right to look out for yourself. After all, it is you who has to put bread on the table. But don't belittle others when you do that.
ing he had no experience being WebSphere admin (though he was placed there as Admin) and wanted me to help him out by telling him to click. He should have mailed me his salary too. Before installs, he and his gang wanted us to give them detailed information with screenshots on "where all to click" . I think he was a Saravanan from TCS Chennai office.