Telugu States' News and Discussion

Melwyn · Post by **Melwyn** » 07 Mar 2017 11:15

^ I would agree to that. While Tamils might not say no to H1 visa, they will not duke it out in large number like Telugus do. Many fake universities have taken advantage of this tendency.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 07 Mar 2017 11:17

Completely OT:
MCC tambaram contributed very very little,if at all.Before Independence,Presidency College was the best.May be because it was Presidency and attracted best talent(CV Raman,S Chandrasekhar etc).Today its pure rowdy college.Even then Presidency under British was hardly a research institution.

After Independence,talent from TN migrated to national laboratories(TIFR,AEC) etc.The much maligned Bandit jis reign provided orders of magnitude more opportunities.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 07 Mar 2017 12:01

@Hebal sir, the EJ culture as it stands today is more to do with 6 plus yeas of YSR rule and UPA rule at Delhi. EJ activities were actively approved and supported by them and large funding was allowed.

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 07 Mar 2017 12:04

Karthik S wrote:
OmkarC wrote:One incidental benefit of mass immigration of Telugu ppl is that they ended up building large number of temples in the states thereby establishing a Hindu footprint. In general, Telugu and Tamil ppl are very religious and more culturally grounded than ROIs - frnakly only married Telugu, Tamil women still wear Bindi & Mangalasutra to work any more.
They may be doin that, but I find telugus the least of hindutvavadis. You will find lowest percentage of people willing to fight for hinduism.

Yes, it appears that way. Because AP has no independent political thinkers - people merely mimick whatever is the most politically correct paradigm that ROI decides and they meekly follow it.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 07 Mar 2017 12:12

habal wrote: And TN also has long history of STEM.

History does not stand a chance before demographics unfortunately..

Tambrams are only 2% of TN population. The castes duking out in Telugu states comprise 15 - 16% at least.

It would indeed be surprising if the emgiration numbers to US ran counter to AP performance in competitive exams, but that is not the case. The percentages are aligned.

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 07 Mar 2017 12:31

^^Its more than that, Kammas, Reddy, Kaapu, Brahmin, Vaisya, Velama, Raju - all forward castes comprise 40% of AP population (post split). Kaapus alone are 25% of AP population.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 07 Mar 2017 13:03

Though I am guilty as well,let us put an end to discussion of AP,TN etc in this thread.There are many more existential issues relevant to this thread.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 07 Mar 2017 13:06

OmkarC, interesting. Source? Let us goto AP thread.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Mar 2017 13:57

guys in which forum is the AP thread? I have some more to speak there.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 07 Mar 2017 14:01

Check Telugu states in General burkha thing sir. I think it is there.

arshyam · Post by **arshyam** » 07 Mar 2017 21:15

Bump. ATTN Singha saar..

shravanp · Post by **shravanp** » 07 Mar 2017 22:01

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ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Mar 2017 22:19

Folks enough Telugu bashing in the India-US thread.

Singha I find you started the downhill spiral.****

Don't do it in open forum next time.
Thanks,

ramana

**** I got phone calls from desh about this fratricide.

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 08 Mar 2017 06:03

^^ Guys, no singular source w/ population statistics, but here's a survey from several sources:

Kaapus ~ 27% of total population
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... eemandhra/

Rest of forward caste population % (assorted googling sources)
Brahmin 3
Kshatriya/Raju 1.2
Komati/Vaisya 2.7
Kamma 4.8
Reddy 6.5
Velama 3.0

The total is close to 48%

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 08 Mar 2017 06:13

I am not sure if Kapus are one community as such. I think there are variations in this. Most of the Sub-Communities are not BC as per law in AP. They, of course, want it now. But they are not there as of now. Some rich Kapus married into Reddies in the recent times.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 19 Mar 2017 22:14

^
balija naidu's(a kapu subset) have since ages been intermarrying with reddy's in rayalaseema its not a recent occurrence .

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An odious twisted being is being bred in septic pits of post Dravidan ideological ruins of the telugu states.His name is Pawan Kalyan .
CBN is the principal for PK babu & is propping him up from behind the scenes to delay the inevitable clarity of Hindutva dawning onto telugus besieged by the EJ & Jihadi gangs while being ravaged internally by aggravated castesim encouraged by telugu herrow's, their politico-mafia families & political parties.

If left unchallenged, like Saindhava he will delay the entry of BJP as the main challenger to the sikular gangs by atleast one more election cycle.More than enough time for the EJ's to convert one more district worth of population in Andhra .

As an example he recently dusted off the north vs south bogey after TsuNaMo2 in UP.
https://twitter.com/PawanKalyan/status/ ... 0580618240

This PK is a "murkhudu" who wont listen to reason, worse he thinks greatly of his naxal pasand sikular inclinations parading other shit worms like Ravi Prakash (of TV9) as his strategic advisors.
For example his recent tweets on one "commie Nagi reddy centenary"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Nagi_Reddy

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 20 Mar 2017 03:20

Lilo saar, am at loss here: I understand EJ gangs targeting AP, but Jihadi gangs ?? This is the first time I am hearing of Jihadist threats to Andhra.

PK unfortunately has a cult-following among youth despite being a "Moorkha" - he is ideologically confused.

But I believe the way forward for Hindutva is to still forge an alliance between Kaapus + OBCs, with a new leader.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 20 Mar 2017 04:20

Omkar garu,
The twin cities region (guntur-vijayawda) ,towns & cities in rayalaseema - hindupur,kurnool,chitoor, ananthapur ,kadapa etc have big muslim populations who enjoy the perennial patronage of the sikular parties like TDP & Congress.Obviously their peacefulness is by default given a wideberth by the police.
An example below which i also remember posting in brf. Zero sound was heard in the krantikari telugu media channels like TV9 etc which were otherwise doing sikular panel discussions on Dadri lynching , intolerance of Yogi raising love jihad issue in UP etc. This news at their doorstep however was simply buried.

Communal tension grips Guntur village as Muslim girl kills self due to her parents forcing her into marriage, 19 year old Hindu boy is lynched by Muslim mob
July 19, 2016

The girl, Jasmine Shaikh, was found hanging from a ceiling fan in her house in Mahammadiyapalem village by a relative who also saw two 19-year-old youths of the same village standing outside the house. Neighbours and relatives of the girl caught hold of V Srisai, a first year B.Tech, and his firend Pavan Kumar, a first year Degree student, and locked them in a room where they were beaten up with sticks and belts.
“When the sticks broke, they brought cricket bats and started hitting us without caring where we were getting hit. Srisai received several blows with the bat on his head and he was bleeding heavily and losing consciousness. Then they stripped us and took us out and tied us to a tree. They threw chilli powder into our eyes and started beating us again. When I was about to lose consciousness, they would throw water and then start beating again. By the time police arrived, Srisai fell on the ground and lost consciousness,’’ Pavan Kumar, who is recovering at the Repalle Government Hospital near Guntur, said over phone.
Srisai, who received serious head injuries, died on way to hospital. He was a first year B.Tech student at Bapatla. His father V Venkateshwarulu is a government school teacher.
Pavan said that after they were tied to the tree, people took turns throwing stones at them. When a sub-inspector and constable from the nearby Nagaram Police Station arrived, they were outnumbered by the mob which prevented them from helping the two youths.
“In some time more cops arrived. If not for police, I also would have died,’’ he said.

Due to the razor thin victory margin's of seats in assembly elections of AP - both sikular parties have been competitively appealing to muslim community leaders as they were seen as the kingmakers in the caste fractured hindu wastelands of AP.
As the situation stands now, places like Guntur & Machilipatnam have sent Jihadis for ISIS. SIMI is having sleeper cells in Visakhapatnam.
So much so that even the uber sikular CBN recently publicly warned about growing ISIS threat in AP when rajnath came visiting,yet he wanted an anti-riot RAF battalion stationed near amaravathi instead of anti-terror NSG battalion. Is it to better manage the riotous urges of the mainorities in twin cities region - or is it to clamp down on any retaliatory tendencies of the Hindus ?
One can only guess.

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 20 Mar 2017 04:47

^^ Sir, If you are from Andhra, you know that such incidents are quite common - just see what would've happened if the same Muslim feller touched the daughter of a Seema faction leader of a rich coastal landlord.. he'd've disappeared w/o a trace and not even that news item would appear.. My interaction w/ extended family members both in Godavari districts, Vijayawada and Ongole - they have high respect for local muslims for being industrious, minding their own business, respecting Hindu culture and speak local language perfectly - much unlike the Hyderabad/TG ones who only speak in Urdu, use Islamism to provoke conflicts (plus the entire history of being rulers and looking down up on local hindu populace w/ disgrace or jealousy). They are infact way better than the EJ scum who provoke hatred against Temples & Hindu gods. Muslim devotees of Lord Venkateswara:

Muslims in Andhra came into being due to Aurangzeb's armies converting some local BCs & SCs - they wouldn't know a word of Urdu till some munnas started migrating & mixing w/ Hyderabadis - a very recent development. But of course, new generation being drawn away and radicalized is happening across the entire qaum and we can't deny the possibility.

The concept that Muslims can threaten either the three dominant communities (Ka-Kaa-Re) or pull anything close to UP or Bengal where they ran de-facto govts on sharia principles is very improbable in AP. EJs on other hand are a totally different beast - more strategic, more cunning and more poisonous.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 20 Mar 2017 05:10

Omkar garu,
iam not referring to honor killing by some rich moneybag casteist or some feudal landlord in seema.
Its a muslim mob lynching of a Hindu kid (his father of limited means - a school teacher) the girl too of limited means in front of onlooking Police.

All this dargah worship or temple worship visuals are used to hide the true nature of the Jihadi beast on the ground - heck even the krantikari telugu news channels use them regularly nothing new here.
Anyway all these "our state muslims are exceptional" (i.e immune from the pull of the national & pannational ummah Islamists) is something i heard repeatedly in TamilNadu , Andhra & Kerala - till the reality hits home.

...Following this development, police are tracking the movements of sympathisers of various terror groups and those who underwent imprisonment on such charges in Machilipatnam, Tadepalligudem, Rajahmundry, Vijayawada, Guntur, Eluru and other places in the State.
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/te ... 934796.ece

The duo have been identified as Rehman from Machilipatnam in Krishna and a scientist from Guntur town, NIA officials told Express.

“It is for the first time that youngsters from AP have been attracted to ISIS activities. Rehman, and a scientist from Guntur left their house informing their parents that they will go to Dubai for employment. Once they reached Dubai, some handlers helped them reach Syria, where they joined ISIS,’’ the sources said.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/ ... 61185.html

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 20 Mar 2017 05:16

Faction case study:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4UObHnLsNc

Dont know if several Villages in RayalSeema are still like this - There is no employment for youth except becoming henchmen for faction leaders who throw a packet of Biryani and alcohol. If they migrate to cities, they can labor and earn a decent living. This is no way to live, villages like these have been devastated . Muslims are the last thought on people's minds when there is so much hostility within Hindus themselves - due to constant fight over resources.

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 20 Mar 2017 05:36

Lilo wrote:Omkar garu,
iam not referring to honor killing by some rich moneybag casteist or some feudal landlord in seema.
Its a muslim mob lynching of a Hindu kid (his father of limited means - a school teacher) the girl too of limited means from in front of onlooking Police.

All this dargah worship or temple worship visuals are used to hide the true nature of the Jihadi beast on the ground - heck even the krantikari telugu news channels use them regularly nothing new here.
Anyway all these "our state muslims are exceptional" (i.e immune from the pull of the national & pannational ummah Islamists) is something i heard repeatedly in TamilNadu , Andhra & Kerala - till the reality hits home.

...Following this development, police are tracking the movements of sympathisers of various terror groups and those who underwent imprisonment on such charges in Machilipatnam, Tadepalligudem, Rajahmundry, Vijayawada, Guntur, Eluru and other places in the State.
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/te ... 934796.ece

The duo have been identified as Rehman from Machilipatnam in Krishna and a scientist from Guntur town, NIA officials told Express.

“It is for the first time that youngsters from AP have been attracted to ISIS activities. Rehman, and a scientist from Guntur left their house informing their parents that they will go to Dubai for employment. Once they reached Dubai, some handlers helped them reach Syria, where they joined ISIS,’’ the sources said.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/ ... 61185.html

I share your concern about young muslim youth - I am no way suggesting we indulge in bury-collective-heads-in-sands-due-to-popular-conceptions w/o reviewing ground realities. If there is any initiative to do Ghar Vapsi for young Muslim Yuvatha - am all for it.

But at the same, its also our duty to understand and strengthen a narrative aimed at Indigenization of Muslims.

And BTW, these are not photo-ops.. there is a deep faith in Muslim community in most of Rayalaseema that their daughter - "Bibi Nancharamma" wife of Lord Venkateswara and therefore, he is their "Son-in-law".. this is not Taquiya - they have been praying at Venkateswara Swami temples in Kadapa for a centuries now - even before Hindus started praying at Dargahs. Incidentally, if you believe in Ironic Divine fate: Bibi Nancharamma is supposed to be the daughter of the Alauddin Khilji's Commander-in-Chief Malik Kafur (who destroyed several Hindu temples of South India) who became a Meera-like devotee of Lord Sriranga/Venkateswara and merged into the Lord.

And yes, there is a difference between Muslims of Kerala who do have sufficient muscle power - with close to 25% of state population. Muslims in AP are ~ 7% and incidents like these happen way below the noise floor. Not suggesting carelessness, but I hope there is enough realization that the elephants in the room are still EJs who preach Hindu Gods are Demons & Devils and have succeeded in perverting 1/4th the population of the state.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 20 Mar 2017 06:06

I lived in Kadapa city for 3 years omkargaru , and i hail from guntur city(25% muslim pop), the narratives & dynamics in city (where muslims enjoy double digit numbers) is different to rural where they are often <5% .
Look up how the situation has always been in Hindupur town for instance.
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Coming back to my main point
I reiterate that CBN is propping up Pawan Kalyan to stop the pan caste USHV vote consolidation in Andhra for Hindutva.

Their continuous dog & pony show where PK suddenly decides to visit some district in AP & raises some local issue - only for CBN to respond immediately to solve it -- is to build up the aura around PK amongst his idiotic Kapu caste based "fans" as someone who is "capable" of standing up against "rival" caste Kamma CBN.

This is similar to how Chiranjeevi used caste based Kapu mobilization initially in an antiCongress platform only to split votes from going to NDA-TDP. He extended the EJ YSR's rule by 5 more years and even merged his PRP into YSR's party after election.
Similarly PK being the younger brother of Chiranjeevi is now in a deal to strategically support TDP against BJP's entry into the mainstream of Andhra.

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BJP (or Sanghparivar) should invest in a telugu News channel in AP. Telugus being suckers for News shows will be more receptive to alternate viewpoints if they see it in News .

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 20 Mar 2017 06:19

^^ Lilo garu, yes - what you say makes sense.. the core of the problem is - are Telugu people even ready to be Hindutva wadis ? EJs while attacking Hindu culture & religion, know how to navigate the caste minefield very well and never offend any caste. Muslims are not perceived as a threat. What can prompt Andhra people to buy Hindutva-waad ?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Mar 2017 09:01

Yes. If we can make development trump caste like in UP.

kiranA · Post by **kiranA** » 21 Mar 2017 08:25

I think the brutal division of AP has buried any chance of hindutva for a long time to come. People of andhra were shaken by the ruthlessness of delhi and are now highly suspicious of anything originating in delhi - even though it was sonia cabal who architected it(division) - people took big notice of "chinnamma" shenanigans of sushma. People had some hopes on modi but now resent the way they see their CM being humiliated by forcing him to make multiple visits to secure the promises made in re-organiztion bill.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 21 Mar 2017 10:54

The Stupid special status demand is to be given. Nothing in real is going to gain by AP people, but the promise was made and is to be kept by NM. It is not being done. If seems as if NM is not ready to keep his work to people of AP who were cheated by INC. Loss of capital after a decade of insults from the leaders of TS areas ( this includes leaders of BJP in those areas) there was a promise from NM that he will take care of AP. There was a promise from BJP that special status will be given for ten years. Now all kinds of reasons are being shown for not giving. BJP is well aware of those reasons at that time. It proceeded to lie to people. Now is hiding under technicalities of one kind or another.

At least I have not expected this from NM. But life goes on and 25 MP seats are there for non-NDA parties to pick up in 2019 and CBN with his Kamma dramas will make for EJ criminal gangs of Jagan or cheating Kapu gangs of PK and Chiranjivi.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 21 Mar 2017 11:08

Yagnasri wrote:The Stupid special status demand is to be given. Nothing in real is going to gain by AP people, but the promise was made and is to be kept by NM. It is not being done. If seems as if NM is not ready to keep his work to people of AP who were cheated by INC. Loss of capital after a decade of insults from the leaders of TS areas ( this includes leaders of BJP in those areas) there was a promise from NM that he will take care of AP. There was a promise from BJP that special status will be given for ten years. Now all kinds of reasons are being shown for not giving. BJP is well aware of those reasons at that time. It proceeded to lie to people. Now is hiding under technicalities of one kind or another.

At least I have not expected this from NM. But life goes on and 25 MP seats are there for non-NDA parties to pick up in 2019 and CBN with his Kamma dramas will make for EJ criminal gangs of Jagan or cheating Kapu gangs of PK and Chiranjivi.

If this "promise" is fulfilled, how many other states whose own special status demands predates AP's demand would pile on and demand the same??

Anyone care to explain how CBN's son's assets increased so much in such a short time??

Anyone remember how CBN callously used and threw ABV away like a used condom??

Did CBN ever account for all the money that he blackmailed and grabbed from the ABV govt??

He has to pay for his sins. A crook like him will never change.

all "promises" were made by the D4, anticipating handsome electoral gains which CBN ensured that was not forthcoming.

Modi was never part of any such promise and he will not pay for anyone else's foolishness, neither that of the congis nor the D4 who certainly did not have any authority nor the political credibility to make such costly promises.

CBN has behaved like a more polished version of mamta and has tried all the same crude tactics to bludgeon the BJP into supporting him while simply brushing all his perfidy under the carpet hoping that no one would see it or rake it up.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 21 Mar 2017 13:30

NM had promised a lot of things to A. It is there on youtube. He has promised that he will take care of AP and will not abandon AP like INC did. BJP leadership promised special status in RS at the time of division. About special status, it was promised to AP for having to lose their capital for the 3rd time since independence. I do not expect non-AP residents here to understand this. AP did not ask for it before the division and did not ask for the division. It was done at the wish of MQ.

I agree CBN is not a good guy and all that. But promise was made to AP and not to CBN. As for as election results in AP are concerned, the numbers speak for themselves. BJP and TDP did exceedingly well in spite of all the bad feeling towards them as both of the supported division of the state. The main reason for that is the faith people had in NM. He needs to keep the faith.

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 22 Mar 2017 05:55

w/ or w/o special status - BJP winning AP is not going to happen.

If Modi gives special status, CBN will steal credit for it or Jagan will say its due to his long dharnas & struggle. Did congress win TG after granting it statehood ? No, KCR got credit for it.
If Modi doesnt give special status, CBN loses but Jagan gains for being the opposition.

BJP would've emerged as an alternative 10-20 yrs ago had TDP not grown and the way TRS is growing in TG.

BTW, here's another take at this - if you can't compete, how about acquiring/merging these parties instead ? Specifically:
- Get both TRS & TDP to merge into BJP
- Remove the dynasts in both parties - CBN & KCR - give their children plum cabinet posts and retire them
- Build a wider social grouping of pan-Hindus; work via soft-Hindutva + development

Same strategy w/ Orissa - get BJD to merge into BJP. Winning over Andhra, TG & Orissa - where Dharmics have high demographic majority - must be accomplished within this decade.

TN is more complex & requires a different approach, Kerala looks impossible at the moment.

kiranA · Post by **kiranA** » 25 Mar 2017 19:44

OmkarC wrote:w/ or w/o special status - BJP winning AP is not going to happen.

If Modi gives special status, CBN will steal credit for it or Jagan will say its due to his long dharnas & struggle. Did congress win TG after granting it statehood ? No, KCR got credit for it.
If Modi doesnt give special status, CBN loses but Jagan gains for being the opposition.
t.

Special Status was a promise made by PM of India on floor of parliament to assuage the brutual division of the state which the state did not want. It doesnt matter who takes credit for it. Infact if Indian government acts promptly what it owes to nobody will even talk about giving political credit. Maybe then we can really have a nation which acts then rather than a bunch of tribes joslting with each other for a share of the pie.

kiranA · Post by **kiranA** » 25 Mar 2017 19:50

chetak wrote:
If this "promise" is fulfilled, how many other states whose own special status demands predates AP's demand would pile on and demand the same??

Anyone care to explain how CBN's son's assets increased so much in such a short time??

Anyone remember how CBN callously used and threw ABV away like a used condom??

Did CBN ever account for all the money that he blackmailed and grabbed from the ABV govt??

He has to pay for his sins. A crook like him will never change.

all "promises" were made by the D4, anticipating handsome electoral gains which CBN ensured that was not forthcoming.

Modi was never part of any such promise and he will not pay for anyone else's foolishness, neither that of the congis nor the D4 who certainly did not have any authority nor the political credibility to make such costly promises.

CBN has behaved like a more polished version of mamta and has tried all the same crude tactics to bludgeon the BJP into supporting him while simply brushing all his perfidy under the carpet hoping that no one would see it or rake it up.

CBN is a crook ? what makes you so arrogant to judge a man universally respected and praised like that. Do you know the respect CBN had from ABV or LKA or MMJ ? Recently he visited Yogi CM ceremoney - just see how they treated him.

When USA when the cold war and the entire world was available for them , CBN bought bill gates to Hyderabad. That man singlehandedly did for the only real mass corporate secotr in India - IT software - than all of the PMs (not CMs) in India put together did.

Regarding lokesh assets, did you care to apply even the minimum of care to know ? he previously declared his share value and real estate value at cost which is generally accepted accounting practice. But later the norms required him to declare at market price which led to the increase. Learn to respect facts before arrongantly bloviating like this.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 25 Mar 2017 20:01

kiranA wrote:
chetak wrote:
If this "promise" is fulfilled, how many other states whose own special status demands predates AP's demand would pile on and demand the same??

Anyone care to explain how CBN's son's assets increased so much in such a short time??

Anyone remember how CBN callously used and threw ABV away like a used condom??

Did CBN ever account for all the money that he blackmailed and grabbed from the ABV govt??

He has to pay for his sins. A crook like him will never change.

all "promises" were made by the D4, anticipating handsome electoral gains which CBN ensured that was not forthcoming.

Modi was never part of any such promise and he will not pay for anyone else's foolishness, neither that of the congis nor the D4 who certainly did not have any authority nor the political credibility to make such costly promises.

CBN has behaved like a more polished version of mamta and has tried all the same crude tactics to bludgeon the BJP into supporting him while simply brushing all his perfidy under the carpet hoping that no one would see it or rake it up.
CBN is a crook ? what makes you so arrogant to judge a man universally respected and praised like that. Do you know the respect CBN had from ABV or LKA or MMJ ? Recently he visited Yogi CM ceremoney - just see how they treated him.

When USA when the cold war and the entire world was available for them , CBN bought bill gates to Hyderabad. That man singlehandedly did for the only real mass corporate secotr in India - IT software - than all of the PMs (not CMs) in India put together did.

Regarding lokesh assets, did you care to apply even the minimum of care to know ? he previously declared his share value and real estate value at cost which is generally accepted accounting practice. But later the norms required him to declare at market price which led to the increase. Learn to respect facts before arrongantly bloviating like this.

everyone has to have an opinion, even you have one it seems.

how very democratic onlee

kiranA · Post by **kiranA** » 25 Mar 2017 20:15

chetak wrote:

everyone has an opinion, even you have one it seems.

Some opinions when broadcast in public forums do elicit strong reponses

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chetak · Post by **chetak** » 25 Mar 2017 20:19

kiranA wrote:
chetak wrote:

everyone has an opinion, even you have one it seems.
Some opinions when broadcast in public forums do elicit strong reponses .

I have toned down my response.

I can write much more about CBN, chapter and verse, with irrefutable and public instances.

starting with heritage foods.

The man is not worth my getting a warning

vnms · Post by **vnms** » 25 Mar 2017 21:06

Can someone elaborate on what special status translates to? Does having that status entitle the state to get more funds from the center or is it something else?

kiranA · Post by **kiranA** » 25 Mar 2017 21:34

chetak wrote:
kiranA wrote:
Some opinions when broadcast in public forums do elicit strong reponses .
I have toned down my response.

I can write much more about CBN, chapter and verse, with irrefutable and public instances.

starting with heritage foods.

The man is not worth my getting a warning

If going by what you already wrote is any indication of what is to come - yes its certainly not worth writing - warning or no warning.

kiranA · Post by **kiranA** » 25 Mar 2017 21:39

vnms wrote:Can someone elaborate on what special status translates to? Does having that status entitle the state to get more funds from the center or is it something else?

It has some such provisions - here and there. But I dont think it amounts to much - but the promise was made to a beleagured state. Not by a political candidate but by the PM of India, not in media but on floor of the parliament. They should have kept it if they cared about reputation of Indian govt. I used to flood many forums with posts about how Kashmir belongs to India etc .. I was pretty stunned myself when Indian govt divides AP just like that -no reason nothing. THe promise was made in that context and Indian govt failed to deliver it.

vnms · Post by **vnms** » 25 Mar 2017 22:58

Kiran Saar, thanks for the response.

Based on what you have said, the special status doesn't amount to much? Then why do I see so much discussion on this? So far, what has the central government given AP?

There is no point in discussing the separation. Telanaga didn't want to merge to begin with. Movement for separate Telanga was squashed in late 60s early 70s. Current day, most people did not want a separate state but vested interests on both sides wanted this.

Regarding promises made, I'm trying get a better picture of what exactly those promises are. Need to take google chachas help. Will do so later.

Andhra too had made promises to Telangana prior to merger in 1956. In 60 years not one of the promises were kept. Having said that, two wrongs don't make a right.

Can you make a list of things that the center needs to do for AP? We can keep track of these things rather than getting into a fatricide?

At the end of the day all AP politicians are bad. If it is not corruption, it will is nepotism. At this time, my expectations for these politicians is so low that, I would be happy if deliver results even if they are corrupt.

kiranA · Post by **kiranA** » 25 Mar 2017 23:23

vnms wrote:Kiran Saar, thanks for the response.

Based on what you have said, the special status doesn't amount to much? Then why do I see so much discussion on this? So far, what has the central government given AP?

There is no point in discussing the separation. Telanaga didn't want to merge to begin with. Movement for separate Telanga was squashed in late 60s early 70s. Current day, most people did not want a separate state but vested interests on both sides wanted this.

Regarding promises made, I'm trying get a better picture of what exactly those promises are. Need to take google chachas help. Will do so later.

Andhra too had made promises to Telangana prior to merger in 1956. In 60 years not one of the promises were kept. Having said that, two wrongs don't make a right.

Can you make a list of things that the center needs to do for AP? We can keep track of these things rather than getting into a fatricide?

At the end of the day all AP politicians are bad. If it is not corruption, it will is nepotism. At this time, my expectations for these politicians is so low that, I would be happy if deliver results even if they are corrupt.

I think you are referring to "gentlemens agreement" which is an understanding between congress politicians. Not a governmental promise (there was no government of telangana then). But even there, despite what was told you, all of them were mostly kept.

This is not a gentlemens agreement. But came from the government. What can be done ? Nothing really - Andhra pradesh was weaker entity and it will suffer. delhi is stronger entity and looking at its track record it will forget everything about its promises.

The main consequence is how it will shape the opionions of andhra people. Other people atleast need to stop acting childlike and wonder ..oh why the dont vote BJP..why they dont die for hinduism etc...when there is no respect for wishes of andhra people in their own country and no sense of holding country responsible for its promises.