Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - March 17, 2017

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Apr 2017 12:01

la.khan wrote:
yensoy wrote:
Did that sound funny?

Here's a thought, go to Attari. You will see hundreds, no thousands of trucks there, ferrying stuff back and forth. These traders have figured out some way to make it work, and to collect money. I am sure the government can work out a payment mechanism as well. We can all use an American or for that matter a Chinese bank to settle in.

Or we can do as we did during the Soviet times - barter. If the sugar shipment appears impure, drop the frequency of the power we supply to 48Hz. (Now that I said in jest).
I couldn't make out if you were being sarcastic. A few years back, traders on our side sent goods but never recd payments; I read the news item right here on BRF. These were probably small or medium sized exporters but selling power/electricity is huge, usually hundreds of millions of USD. Do we want to give credit to these turds? For a country that goes around with a begging bowl and lives on a foreign dole, paying the kaffir Hindoo bania will not be a top priority. If we can find ways to make this work, pakis will equally find ways to skip/delay/avoid payments.

For barter to work, those turds have to produce something we need. Off the top of my head, pakis produce terrorists, soccer balls, cricket items, surgical tools/implements, cotton, basmati. Anything I missed? Nothing that desh really needs.
Bart S wrote:It would have to be a prepaid SIM type transaction, except that they would pay in dollars. They can make the payment and buy electricity for the next month from a paanwala on the Wagah border
While prepaid transaction in USD may work, do they have USD to pay for this? I don't think so. While this may sound good on paper, this may be a non-starter. Sometime back, there was talk of selling diesel engines to paki railways. Nothing came of it; this may end up in the same dustbin.

Money will have to be deposited in advance in an escrow account.

When the allotted power has been consumed, money should be automatically be transferred to India and the said account should be replenished immediately.

Rates should be based on the prevailing daily price of oil subject to a floor price to protect Indian power producers.

take it or pay contract.

paki to invest in all required power transmission infrastructure. All disputes subject to Indian courts jurisdiction only.

The paki propensity for overdrawing power should not be underestimated or discounted.

Many Indian states would also overdraw on power, especially during peak consumption hours and this was very difficult to curb and control.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 28 Apr 2017 14:10

Woman shot by police during anti-terror raid in London

One shot, four arrested in London anti-terror raid

A woman has been shot by police and four people were arrested during an anti-terror operation in north west London and Kent.

Armed officers entered a property in Harlesden Road, Willesden, shortly before 7pm on Thursday evening.

During the raid the woman, who was among a number of people under investigation, was shot. No other people were injured.

In unverified footage from the scene, specialist firearms officers can be seen outside a house and several gunshots were heard.

The woman, aged in her 20s, was taken to hospital where she is under police guard.

Police said she has not been arrested "at this time" due to her condition, which is said to be 'serious but stable'.

As part of the operation, four people have been arrested on suspicion of terror offences.

A 16-year-old youth and a woman, 20, were detained at the property, while a 20-year-old man was arrested nearby.

A 43-year-old woman was held in Kent a short while later.

They are in custody at a south London police station.

Police said the Willesden property and people connected to it had been "under observation by counter-terrorism officers as part of an ongoing intelligence-led operation".

Detectives are carrying out searches there as well as at other addresses across the capital.

The shooting has been referred to the Metropolitan Police's Directorate of Professional Standards as well as the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

The raid was not connected to the arrest earlier in the day in Whitehall of a man who police say was carrying a rucksack containing several knives.

Cheers

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Apr 2017 15:40

Pakistan Obliges "Taller Than Mountain Fliend"

Pakistan refuses ADB loan for railway as China becomes sole financier

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has refused part financing from the Asian Development Bank (ADB) for the $8 billion Karachi-Peshawar Railway Line (ML-1) after China said it wanted to fund the project single-handedly.“China strongly argued that two-sourced financing would create problems and the project would suffer,” Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal told a news conference on Thursday. The Chinification of Pakistan is already under way ; one more example following the recent hoopla about the recent ad of Shan biryani "toasting" Chini-Paki dosti with its ad

The minister said he would not comment whether the Ministry of Railways has resisted the Chinese request for fears of monopoly, but said the entire financing would now come from China. The project was originally planned to be partly funded by the Manila-based ADB. This way there will be no opposition to "Chini third class maal " being dumped into the Paki railway market !

Gyan · Post by **Gyan** » 28 Apr 2017 15:42

ADB Would have insisted on transparent bidding process, while Pakis only want to be screwed by Chinese.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Apr 2017 16:02

Pakistan Now Claims Vinood Khana As Its Own

Vinod Khanna had roots in Peshawar

Vinod Khanna was the son of Mehr Chand Khanna, a prominent businessman and former minister from Congress Party. He was born in Peshawar on Oct 6, 1946 at Sardar area in the Cantonment’s jurisdiction,” Mohammad Ibrahim Zia, a known film historian from Peshawar, said.

Mr Zia said that he had met Vinod Khanna in 2014 during a visit to India being a member of the delegation which went to enquire after the top Indian film industry legend, Dilip Kumar, who also belonged to Peshawar. Pakistan has a chequered history of claiming cultural icons just because they happened to be born in part of what later became Pakistan. No reflection as to why they ( as in this case !) had to flee their birthplace ! At the same time, they shamelessly take credit for Indus Valley Civilization, Gandhara Civilization - which are the legacies of India. “During the visit, we had a meeting with Vinod Khanna in New Delhi, who was very happy over reunion with people of his birthplace (Peshawar),” he recalled.

During the meeting with Vinod Khanna, Zia recalled, the delegation presented him gifts, including ‘Peshawari Chappal’ (sandals) and traditional dress, which he accepted very happily. Mr Zia added that he also presented a copy of his book, Peshawar Kay Funkar (The Artists of Peshawar), to the legend star. Basking in "second hand glory"

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Apr 2017 16:13

An Attempt To Burnish The Tainted Image Of Pakistan

Diary of a French girl in Pakistan
Johanna Michel

On my visit to Pakistan for the first time ever, I distinctly remember the day I was crossing the Wagah border from India, listening to a song by Noori while my heart was beating fast – not out of fear, but in anticipation since I had been waiting for this day for a long time.

My friends are devoted bikers and own Karakoram Bikers, a company that arranges adventure tours on motorbikes around Pakistan. When they asked me if I wanted to explore Old Lahore on bike, I didn’t hesitate to say 'yes' even for a second. We set off on our bikes at full speed that same evening toward the chaotic but amazing androon Lahore.

It was time to say khuda hafiz to the City of Gardens. Next stop: Islamabad. My university friend Sam came to pick me up from Ahmed’s place in his car. I couldn’t wait for the drive to Islamabad since I remember my roommates telling me how beautiful the route was.

In my time spent in Pakistan, all I saw was amazing hospitality, landscape, food, music, and the most welcoming people. Everyone was kind and loving, and they would do everything to make you feel at home. I haven't come across such generosity anywhere else in the world (and I have travelled quite a bit).I encourage you to go and discover Pakistan. I guarantee that you won't be disappointed by the experience. Written in the "extremely syrupy style " that is so common for farticles of these kind ! Nothing about the daily honor killings and the random shootings that are almost daily occurence in the Land Of The Pure

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 28 Apr 2017 16:24

Falijee wrote:Pakistan Now Claims Vinood Khana As Its Own

Vinod Khanna had roots in Peshawar

Delhi should claim musharraf as its own. Why stop there?

Liaqat Ali Khan - Muzaffarnagar, UP.
Mamnoon Hussain - Agra, UP.
Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq - Jalandhar.
Abdul Sattar Edhi - Gujarat.
Abdul Razzak Yakoub (ARY TV) - Surat, Gujarat.
Hanif Mohammed - Junagadh, Gujarat.
Mehdi Hassan - Rajasthan.
Abdul Qadeer Khan (photochor) - Bhopal
and hordes of other muhajirs.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Apr 2017 16:25

Pakistani MNA Accuses PIA Of Being "A Carrier Of Drugs"

PIA has incurred more than Rs341 bn in liabilities

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has incurred more than Rs341 billion foreign and local liabilities as of June 30, 2016, the airline’s finance manager told the National Assembly Standing Committee on Cabinet Secretariat on Thursday.PIA Finance Manager Omar Bin Sadat told parliamentarians foreign liabilities stood at Rs71 billion and local liabilities are over 270 billion.

However, senior officials from the PIA could not give satisfactory answers to the questions asked by members. Annoyed, the chairman of the committee, PML-N MNA Rana Mohammad Hayat Khan repeatedly raised his voice at the PIA officials for coming to the meeting unprepared.

This can be expected! The PIA, in the past , has been used as a "personal ATM", by no less than the present PM of Pakiland

“I have complained to the prime minister that the PIA is nothing more than a carrier of drugs,” MNA Khan said and asked why PIA officials did not have answers to the questions they were being asked.

He directed the secretary of the committee to lodge another complaint on behalf of the committee with the prime minister regarding the officials’ poor performance and not taking the meeting seriously. Good luck to this ! Ganja Sharif has too much on his plate nowadays to bother about such trivial matters as the ( second or third time ) impeding bankruptcy of this "headache airline"

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 28 Apr 2017 16:30

Pakistan refuses ADB loan for railway as China becomes sole financier

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has refused part financing from the Asian Development Bank (ADB) for the $8 billion Karachi-Peshawar Railway Line (ML-1) after China said it wanted to fund the project single-handedly.

“China strongly argued that two-sourced financing would create problems and the project would suffer,” Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal told a news conference on Thursday.

Cheers

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Apr 2017 16:44

Peregrine wrote:Pakistan refuses ADB loan for railway as China becomes sole financier

AoA.

USD 8Billion on top of the USD 56B? Pakistan is being gobbled up faster than we ever imagined here!

Already, we can see that Pakistan is unable to resist the Chinese. Some Pakistanis seem to have realized the danger, but simply are unable to stop the juggernaut. The Chinese determine what Pakistan must or must not do.

The question now is whether Pakistan is the 24th Province of China or just another Autonomous Region like Tibet & Xinjiang.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 28 Apr 2017 16:49

Foreign tourists barred from visiting GB without NOC

it has been reported that foreigners are frequently visiting Gilgit-Baltistan without obtaining an NOC or security clearance from the ministry, which is against the rules

the Pakistan Association of Tour Operators (PATO) has said the move is tantamount to the “economic murder” of Gilgit-Baltistan

Seventy per cent of GB people depend on tourism to earn a livelihood as there is no other industry in the region

the move would move would also tarnish Pakistan’s image abroad

foreign tourists visited the country to enjoy their holidays and they would be irked by such restrictions

Tourists visiting Khyber Pakhtunkhwa or Sindh are not required to get NOC, then why for GB,

Tourism in the region could not thrive on domestic tourists, Mr Ayub said

Wasn't SeePack going to solve all economic and local financial problems in GB? Will the chinis need NOCs to travel to GB? And, whay the disdain for "domestic" pakjabi tourists?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1329772/forei ... ithout-noc

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 28 Apr 2017 16:54

Now the pakis have a firm count of missing PhDs.

Country faces shortage of 36,000 PhDs, says HEC chairman

There is a shortage of 36,000 PhDs

We are producing good scientists, doctors and engineers but we also have to ask ourselves whether we are also producing good human beings or not.

It taught them tolerance towards the beliefs, faith, race, religion and ideas of other people. “However schools should pay special attention to moral training of students,” Mr Shah said.

36,000 PhDs and all paki problems will be solved. That's all it takes.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1329741/count ... c-chairman

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 28 Apr 2017 16:58

Police on census duty without food, transport

More than 2,260 police personnel, including additional police force, deployed on the ongoing census duty are not being provided transport, food, tea or even drinking water

“I did not take lunch for two days but on the third day went to a vendor and purchased something to eat,” a sub-inspector told Dawn requesting anonymity.

“How can we work from 8am to 4pm without taking food, tea or even drinking water,” he asked.

Weren't the pakis making fun of BSF when that BSF jawan complained about the quality of food?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1329684/polic ... -transport

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 28 Apr 2017 17:01

Builders protest ‘high’ prices of steel, cement

Pakistan is facing a shortfall of 12 million houses; the number is increasing by 250,000 units each year.

At an average of 6 faithfuls to a house, that's 72 million homeless, increasing @ 1.5 Million every year.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1329649/build ... eel-cement

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Apr 2017 17:42

"Damage Control" From Mashal's Murder .

Mashal murder report: ISI, MI, FIA men[*] included in JIT, SC informed [/b]

[*]Deep State also included in probe ! To make sure that it's "good name" is not sullied in the report

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The AAG told that all evidences which were collected from the crime spot had been sent for Forensic Laboratory in Peshawar. The chief justice said that a forensic lab in Lahore was also featured with the modern and advance technology, adding the court had not wanted to pass remarks but it should be kept in mind that the matter should not be delayed. The case was adjourned for 15 days. afterwards "everything" will be forgotten and the case will be put in "cold storage" and / or the report will gather dust in someone's office

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Apr 2017 17:49

As Expected - Ganja Goes After Immy

Rs 10b bribe claim: PM decides legal action against Imran

Of course, the nitty-gritty and planning of such an action is beyond the managing/ intellectual capacity for this dehati politico ! Therefore, the task will surely be assigned to the "clever brother" AKA Shahbaz . Now there are rumours that he ( Shahbaz ) is a cancer surivivor and whether what (legal ) action this will do to his "stress levels", is anybody's guess

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 28 Apr 2017 18:02

Peregrine wrote:Pakistan refuses ADB loan for railway as China becomes sole financier

SSridhar wrote:AoA.

USD 8Billion on top of the USD 56B? Pakistan is being gobbled up faster than we ever imagined here!

Already, we can see that Pakistan is unable to resist the Chinese. Some Pakistanis seem to have realized the danger, but simply are unable to stop the juggernaut. The Chinese determine what Pakistan must or must not do.

The question now is whether Pakistan is the 24th Province of China or just another Autonomous Region like Tibet & Xinjiang.

SSridhar Ji :
Sir Ji, Clapjiang will be the 24th Province of China!
Cheers

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 28 Apr 2017 18:18

X Posted on the PESW Thread

Pakistan adds another $115m loan to its growing debt

ISLAMABAD: Expensive unconventional borrowing continues unabated, as Pakistan obtained another short-term foreign loan of $115 million from Dubai-based Noor Bank, taking the federal government’s total external borrowings to $5.3 billion in the last nine months alone.

The fresh loan amount may not appear large, but indicates towards serious problems in attracting non-debt creating inflows and arranging funds from traditional and relatively cheap source of foreign financing. The $115 million lending was 60% of the total new loans that the government obtained in March.

The PML-N government has so far obtained $655 million from Noor Bank of the UAE at an annual interest rate ranging from 4.1% to 4.71% after it came into power four years ago.

The government took these loans after it failed to attract sufficient non-debt creating inflows, like enhancing exports and foreign direct investment to meet its external financing requirements. In September last year, the Ministry of Finance admitted in a summary moved to seek tax exemptions on issuance of Islamic bond that “the trade account has been worsening and consequently, pressure is building on the balance of payments”.

Pakistan’s official foreign currency reserves – largely built by borrowings – have again started depleting after the end of the International Monetary Fund programme. As of April 14, the foreign currency reserves held by the central bank stood at $16 billion, a depletion of $2.4 billion since the IMF programme ended.

Government’s borrowing track

So far, the government has obtained over $3 billion from the Credit Suisse AG, United Bank Limited, Allied Bank Limited, Noor Bank of UAE, Standard Chartered, Dubai Islamic Bank, China Development Bank and Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, according to official documents.

Despite an overall low interest rate environment, the government’s interest payments are likely to increase in the coming years besides exposing it to the rollover risks. All these loans are for short periods and now the government is borrowing more to repay the previous debt, according to independent economists.

Pakistan obtained these short-term expensive loans from these banks between November 2013 and March 2017. These loans were obtained at an interest rate ranging up to 4.71% in dollar terms. Most of these loans were obtained on London Interbank Offered Rate (Libor) of three-month floating average plus 4%, which comes to around 4.71%. In one case, the loan was obtained at three-month floating Libor plus 3.25%, which translates into roughly 3.6%.

From July through March of this fiscal year, the government got $5.27 billion foreign economic assistance, according to the official documents. More than half of it was borrowed through unconventional sources like foreign commercial banks and issuance of $1 billion Sukuk bonds in September last year.

Pakistan to repay $6.5b debt over next 15 months

The government has estimated receiving $8 billion in foreign economic assistance during the current fiscal year 2016-17 and borrowings during first nine months were two-thirds of the annual estimates.

The government is expected to borrow another $750 million from China to pay back $750 million to Eurobond investors.

From July through March, Pakistan also got $1.1 billion project loans from China, which was exclusive of money obtained for balance of payments support. The project loans from China during the first nine months were 180% of the annual projection of only $565 million.

There is a clear shift in borrowing sources and pattern as in recent years Pakistan’s reliance on China has significantly increased.

Pakistan also borrowed $851.5 million from Asian Development Bank (ADB), which was 81% of the annual budget estimates. The government is also trying to get another $600 million from the ADB before end of this fiscal year.

The loans from the World Bank stood at only $333 million or 22% of the annual estimates of $1.5 billion. The Islamic Development Bank gave $390 million, largely commercial borrowing for crude oil payments.
Cheers

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 28 Apr 2017 19:30

anupmisra wrote:
Falijee wrote:Pakistan Now Claims Vinood Khana As Its Own

Vinod Khanna had roots in Peshawar

Delhi should claim musharraf as its own. Why stop there?

Liaqat Ali Khan - Muzaffarnagar, UP.
Mamnoon Hussain - Agra, UP.
Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq - Jalandhar.
Abdul Sattar Edhi - Gujarat.
Abdul Razzak Yakoub (ARY TV) - Surat, Gujarat.
Hanif Mohammed - Junagadh, Gujarat.
Mehdi Hassan - Rajasthan.
Abdul Qadeer Khan (photochor) - Bhopal
and hordes of other muhajirs.

You don't claim feces as your own once squirting it out of the @sshole

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Apr 2017 20:43

'Hello, I am an ISI agent; want to stay in India': Pakistani man makes startling claim at Delhi's IGI airport - PTI

NEW DELHI: 'Hello, I am an ISI agent. But I don't wish to continue any further and want to remain in India,' said a passenger after he got off an Air India flight from Dubai at the IGI Airport here on Friday.

Muhammad Ahmad Sheikh Muhammad Rafiq, a Pakistani passport holder, approached a help desk at the airport and conveyed to a lady at the counter that he wanted to share information about Pakistan's snooping agency, ISI.

Taken aback by his statement, the lady quickly informed security officials who detained him immediately and informed the central intelligence agencies.

38-year-old Rafiq had arrived here by Air India's flight from Dubai and was further booked for Kathmandu. However, he did not take the next flight and decided to break journey and walked up to the help-desk counter at the airport.

During questioning, Rafiq said he was connected with the ISI but had decided to call it a day and remain in India, officials said.

He was whisked away to an undisclosed destination where he was being questioned by sleuths from various central intelligence agencies, they said, adding his claims were being verified.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 28 Apr 2017 20:50

^^^ I am sure our guys are not foolish enough to fall for such pranks, if thats what this is. But beyond that, this could be an ISI operation itself as a decoy, for reconnaissance etc. I smell a rat.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 28 Apr 2017 22:21

Pindi Metro Bus Runs Over Medical Student

Metro bus runs over medical student in Rawalpindi

A medical student was killed when a Metro bus she was travelling on ran her over in Rawalpindi Friday, police said.Sameera, a 19-year-old student of the Shifa College of Medicine, was travelling to Islamabad when the driver pulled the emergency brakes near the Rehmanabad bus station, apparently due to ongoing construction work in the area. ( Hope that this kind of accident does not happen to the components of Paki "family jewels" ( Islami Bum !) which are roaming the highways and byeways of rural and urban Pakistan to evade prying Amreeki eyes from the sky as well as on the ground, if reports by Bruce Reidel are to be believed ) the Due to the impact, the bus hit a pole and the door of the metro bus flung open, throwing Sameera out of the vehicle and onto the road. The student then was run over by the same bus, eyewitnesses and police said. She died on the spot.A police team from Sadiqabad Police Station reached the scene after the accident and shifted the girl's body to District Headquarters Hospital (DHQ).

Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif took notice of the tragedy and ordered an inquiry into the accident. Metro Bus ( And Taxi Giveaway Scheme) are pet projects for the Sharif Brothers. Apart from "getting commission" from the deals, it is another way to "buy" Pakjabi votes

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 28 Apr 2017 23:32

SSridhar wrote:'Hello, I am an ISI agent; want to stay in India': Pakistani man makes startling claim at Delhi's IGI airport - PTI
Muhammad Ahmad Sheikh Muhammad Rafiq, a Pakistani passport holder

A paki passport holder, with two Muhammads to his name, flying in from dubai, transiting through Delhi on his way to Nepal. Hmmm...Why does this smell of a set up? It is too easy.

VKumar · Post by **VKumar** » 28 Apr 2017 23:46

Offer him back to TSP as a gesture of friendliness and see the reaction.

Bheeshma · Post by **Bheeshma** » 28 Apr 2017 23:47

Exactly. Just deport this joker and don't open your mouth about any real ISI agent who may or may not be in our custody.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 28 Apr 2017 23:56

Put him in the same room as retired col shabir. See if they recognize each other. Also, there are non-stop flights from dooobai to kathmandu. Why did he choose a flight with a stopover in Delhi? Hain?

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 29 Apr 2017 00:08

Probably a nut case or publicity seeking moron.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 29 Apr 2017 01:24

SriJoy wrote:^^
Provides us with golden opportunity to do 'operative exchange' !!
Give this fake self-confessed operative back to ISI and demand one of our own back.

May be he was picked up in location from near abroad and this arrival drama is to send the message to his handlers.

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 29 Apr 2017 01:32

SSridhar wrote:'Hello, I am an ISI agent; want to stay in India': Pakistani man makes startling claim at Delhi's IGI airport - PTI

Do not trust Haraam**

saip · Post by **saip** » 29 Apr 2017 01:43

If he is an ISI why would he go to the info kiosk rather than to RAW office, a genuine pig would know RAW office, won't he? Here is my take. An ISI agent was 'taken' by RAW from the aircraft and this guy an actor (a RAW agent?) was asked to go to PYT at the info kiosk and confess. The PYT wont remember anything anyway. Good Bollywood script.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Apr 2017 03:51

In Delhi ariport?

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 29 Apr 2017 04:03

Pakistan female clerics participate in World’s largest female clerics congress in Indonesia

Female Islamic clerics in Indonesia declared a series of fatwas Thursday, including one to tackle child marriage, a rare example of women taking a leading religious role in the Muslim-majority country.The fatwas were issued at the end of a three-day congress of female clerics in the country with the world's biggest Muslim population.The meeting in Cirebon on Java island, billed as the world's first major gathering of female Muslim clerics, attracted hundreds of participants. Most were Indonesian but there were also clerics from Pakistan, India and Saudi Arabia. ( are the Saudi female clerics accompanied by a mahram as per Sharia Law Did the Paki "female maulanas" graduate from the infamous Lal Masjid seminary run by Maluana Ghazi

They issued a series of fatwas at the end of the gathering, the most eye-catching of which was aimed at tackling child marriage. It urged the government to raise the minimum legal age for women to marry to 18 from the current age of 16. Is the fatwa actionable ( in Pakistan and Saudia ) or is it just for "show "!

The problem is widespread in Indonesia, with one in four women marrying before 18, according to the agency.Religious Affairs Minister Lukman Hakim Saifuddin, who attended the meeting, suggested authorities would examine the proposal: "I will take this recommendation to the government."He also praised the gathering: "This congress succeeded in fighting for justice in the relationship between men and women."

Among the other fatwas issued was one against women being sexually abused; and one against environmental destruction, in a country that struggles every year with huge fires that are started illegally and devastate vast swathes of rainforest.Fatwas are regularly issued in Indonesia but it is usually the male-dominated Indonesian Ulema Council—the country's highest Islamic authority—that declares them.About 90 percent of Indonesia's population of 255 million people are Muslim. When and where is the next female congress - Saudia or Pakistan ?

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 29 Apr 2017 04:12

saip wrote:If he is an ISI why would he go to the info kiosk rather than to RAW office, a genuine pig would know RAW office, won't he? Here is my take. An ISI agent was 'taken' by RAW from the aircraft and this guy an actor (a RAW agent?) was asked to go to PYT at the info kiosk and confess. The PYT wont remember anything anyway. Good Bollywood script.

If I read it correctly, he was on his way to Kathmandu to spread love and good will. Once the plane landed at Delhi, he jumped ship at the first chance. Info kiosk is open and full of people, I think he felt safe to go there. Going to RAW office in Delhi was not possible, he was in transit. Going to RAW in Nepal was going into the unknown.
Gautam

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 29 Apr 2017 04:54

This seems too good to be true. Few possibilities
1. He got to know his cover was blow and to save his mush he sought instead of meeting the likely fate of Kulbhushan. Likely to be noob and may be doesnt know much
2. The guy always had the plan to defect to india, was not as talented as Adnan Sami, didnt want to be another kasab, so either double crossed papis, plans to live off the biryani of indian state and be useful to anyone for few pennies
3. Ruse by ISI, to distract or misdirect or deny the credibility
Somehow dont agree this is staged by us because taking a transit flight in india seems very unlikely

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 29 Apr 2017 05:32

No Pakistani paper has yet reported about this " hello I am an ISI agent; I want to stay in India ....So, there is a good possibility that it might be an ISI operation.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 29 Apr 2017 06:18

Vinod Khanna to be honoured through special event in his hometown Peshawar

Lahore: Remembering Vinod Khanna as a proud Peshawari, people in his birth place here today paid tributes to the veteran Hindi film actor and said the Cultural Heritage Council will organise an event in his honour. Ever since his death became known, Pakistan has been claiming him as one of it's own

Khanna wanted to visit Peshawar to see the area where his parents and forefathers lived. He had sent a request for his visit to Pakistan, but could not succeed, ( visa not issued ? ) Shakeel said. Shakeel said the Cultural Heritage Council Khyber Pakhtunkhwa will soon hold an event in honour of Khanna. Probably worked out for the better in the end that he did not visit. Would have been disappointed ! In Pakistan, there is no concept of cultural or heritage preservation, specially for non -Muslims ! [/quote]

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 29 Apr 2017 06:31

Militant's "Confession" Used For Propaganda

Confession of militant renews pain of APS attack victims’ parents

PESHAWAR: The confession of Ihsanullah Ihsan, a former commander of banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), is of no interest to Auragzeb Khan and his wife, who lost their son in one of the country's most gruesome terror massacres — Army Public School attack.His disclosure as to how Indian and Afghan intelligence agencies are funding terrorist outfits, responsible for so many attacks, is of no solace or interest to them.

Ihsanullah Ihsan, who was a former senior TTP commander and spent almost a decade with the group before turning himself in last week to military authorities, publicly admitted in the confession released by the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) that RAW and NDS were harbouring anti-Pakistan terrorist groups. The whole thing smells fishy from start to finish ! So, since he has now confessed , he will be rehabilitated

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 29 Apr 2017 06:38

Imran Khan meets top Indian politicians delegation in Islamabad

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman held an important meeting with the Indian delegation in Islamabad.An Indian delegation led by Shashi Tharoor, an Indian politician called on Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan in Islamabad, according to the party statement.According to the PTI statement released on micro-blogging website, Imran Khan met the Indian delegation led by the Lok Sabha member. Why is Sashi Tharoor in Islamabad; why did he meet Immy ; chai biskoot session? ( both Oxford men ?)

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 29 Apr 2017 07:34

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A previously unheard-of group called the “World Muhajir Congress” has told the US lawmakers that Pakistan’s ISI is supporting terrorist organisations inside the country, according to a report by the Indian media.The report claims that the representatives of the World Muhajir Congress met members of The House Foreign Affairs Committee. Claiming to speak for Muhajirs of Pakistan they told US lawmakers, “We fear for the safety of Karachi, Muhajir Nation and especially children, as these jihadi outfits are kidnapping/abducting young poor children and after brainwashing them, turning them into suicide bombers and religious fanatics”. Nothing new here ! "Everyone" in Pakistan knows that the Deep State is trying to break down MQM in Karachi !The report further alleged that the previously unknown organization told US lawmakers that terror outfits like Taliban and al-Qaida are trying to take control of Karachi.

Appearing as a shadowy group out of thin air in the wake of Ehsanullah Ehsan’s confession about Indian RAW’s support of terrorism in Pakistan, “World Muhajir Congress” has all the hallmarks of being a R&AW psychological operation aimed at creating ethnic tensions in Pakistan locally and to vilify it globally. Ethnic tensions are promoted by the Deep State at the local level ; there is no need for any nation to vilify Pakistan. They do it themselves when they give sanctuary to OBL, KSM , Mullah Omar etc etc !

Despite all this, Indian media claims “World Muhajir Congress” was still able to get an audience with members of US House Foreign Affairs Committee, which is impossible for such an organisation to achieve without support from an intelligence agency or a foreign government.It seems that this fictitious organisation has been created to counter recent confession of TTP Spokesperson Ehsanullah Ehsan who claimed that terrorism in Pakistan was being supported by Indian RAW and Afghan NDS. There is an MQM - Massa Chapter ; Altaf regularly keeps in touch with his followers there ; there is no need to "get support from an intelligence agency"

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 29 Apr 2017 15:32

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Donald Trump: Saudi Arabia has not treated US fairly

WASHINGTON: President Donald Trump complained on Thursday that US ally Saudi Arabia was not treating the United States fairly and Washington was losing a "tremendous amount of money" defending the kingdom.

In an interview with Reuters, Trump confirmed his administration was in talks about possible visits to Saudi Arabia and Israel in the second half of May. He is due to make his first trip abroad as president for a May 25 NATO summit in Brussels and could add other stops.

"Frankly, Saudi Arabia has not treated us fairly, because we are losing a tremendous amount of money in defending Saudi Arabia," he said.

Trump's criticism of Riyadh was a return to his 2016 election campaign rhetoric when he accused the kingdom of not pulling its weight in paying for the US security umbrella.

"Nobody's going to mess with Saudi Arabia because we're watching them," Trump told a campaign rally in Wisconsin a year ago. "They're not paying us a fair price. We're losing our shirt."

The United States is the main supplier for most Saudi military needs, from F-15 fighters to control and command systems worth tens of billions of dollars in recent years, while American contractors win major energy deals.

The world's top oil exporter and its biggest consumer have enjoyed close economic ties for decades, with US firms building much of the infrastructure of the modern Saudi state after its oil boom in the 1970s.
Saudi officials could not immediately be reached for comment on Trump's latest comments.

But Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir rejected similar comments from Trump during his election campaign, telling CNN during a visit to Washington last July that the Islamic kingdom "carries its own weight" as an ally.

Saudi Arabia's powerful deputy crown prince Mohammed bin Salman met with Trump last month in a meeting that was hailed by a senior Saudi adviser as a "historical turning point" in relations. The talks appeared to signal a meeting of minds on many issues, including their shared view that Iran posed a regional security threat.

Riyadh and other Gulf allies see in Trump a strong president who will shore up Washington's role as their main strategic partner and help contain Riyadh's adversary Iran in a region central to US security and energy interests, regional analysts said.

Islamic State "humiliation"

Asked about the fight against Islamic State, which Saudi Arabia and other US allies are confronting as a coalition, Trump said the militant group had to be defeated.

"I have to say, there is an end. And it has to be humiliation," Trump said, when asked about what the endgame was for defeating Islamist violent extremism.

"There is an end. Otherwise it's really tough. But there is an end," without detailing a strategy.
A visit to Israel would reciprocate a White House visit in February by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas is due to meet Trump next Wednesday in Washington.

Trump has set a more positive tone with Israel than his Democratic predecessor, Barack Obama, who often clashed with the right-wing Israeli leader, and has raised concerns among Palestinians that their leaders may not get equal treatment.

Trump has also asked Israel to put unspecified limits on its building of Jewish settlements on land the Palestinians want for a state, and has promised to seek a Middle East peace deal that eluded his predecessors. However, he has offered no new diplomatic prescriptions.

"I want to see peace with Israel and the Palestinians," he said. "There is no reason there's not peace between Israel and the Palestinians - none whatsoever."

Trump brushed aside a question of whether he might use a possible trip to Israel to declare US recognition of the entire city of Jerusalem as Israel's capital, a reversal of longstanding US foreign policy likely to draw international condemnation.

"Ask me in a month on that," he said, without elaborating.

If Trump ties an Israel visit to next month's Brussels trip, it would be around the time Israelis are celebrating the 50th anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem, when Israel captured Arab East Jerusalem in the 1967 Middle East war.

Successive US administrations as well as the international community have not recognized Israel's annexation of the eastern part of the city, and the future status of Jerusalem remains one of the thorniest issues in the Israeli-Palestinian dispute.

Israel claims all of Jerusalem, which contains sites sacred to the Jewish, Muslim and Christian faiths, as its capital. Palestinians want East Jerusalem as the capital of a future state of their own.

QUESTION : Which Islamic Country has every treated Non-Islamic Countries in General and the United States in Particular FAIRLY?
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