Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - March 17, 2017

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 14 May 2017 16:34

Alarm bells - Capital suggestion

Over the past nine months of the current financial year, the government’s revenues amounted to Rs3,145,000,000,000 (Rs3.1 trillion). But the government ended up spending Rs4,383,000,000,000 (Rs4.3 trillion). So, the government’s expenditures exceeded its revenues by a colossal Rs1.24 trillion – and that’s the government’s budget deficit.

Alarmingly, the financial year-end budget deficit will hit Rs1.7 trillion or five percent of the GDP (as opposed to the budgeted deficit of 3.8 percent of the GDP). That indeed is scary.

What is even scarier is that the circular debt of around Rs400 billion has not been included in the deficit. What is even scarier is that tax refunds of around Rs250 billion are being held back by the Federal Bureau of Revenue (FBR). What is even scarier is that loans worth Rs173 billion taken on by public sector enterprises (PSEs) have not been included in the deficit. PRs 1700 Billion + PRs 400 Billion+ PRs 250 Billion + PRs 173 Billion a Total of PRs 2,523 Billion i.e. PRs 2.5323 Trillion

What is even scarier is that if the outstanding circular debt, the yet-to-be refunded taxes and the PSE debts are also taken into account, the budget deficit will approach an alarming 7.5 percent of the GDP. That indeed is scary.

For the record, Budget 2016-17 had allocated Rs 860 billion for defence affairs and services. Intriguingly, over the past nine months of the current financial year, the government has spent only Rs 535 billion or 62 percent of the allocation. This is the only major item where actual spending is lower than the allocated budget.

Budget 2016-17 had allocated Rs1.36 trillion for interest payments on debt. Over the past nine months of the current financial year, the government has already spent 80 percent of the allocation. By the financial year-end, the government is projected to spend a wholesome Rs1.5 trillion for interest on our national debt.

Budget 2016-17 had projected privatisation proceeds of Rs50 billion. Nothing has been done on that. And that’s because the minister of state for privatisation was busy defending the PM on the Panama leaks front. Budget 2016-17 had projected Rs75 billion from the auctioning of telecom licences. The government will be lucky if it gets even half of the amount projected.

As a consequence, Budget 2017-18 has to be about new taxes and additional debt. New taxes could result in a burden on the current generation and additional debt could lead to an additional burden on the future generation of Pakistanis. Both are inevitable. No Worries. CPEC will solve this imbroglio!

There are only three ways to bridge the ballooning budgetary deficit: cut government spending, increase taxes or economic growth. The government has absolutely no intention of cutting government expenditures and economic growth shall remain constrained because of a host of factors, including energy shortage and the absence of any growth driver.

All we are left with are more and more taxes. For the record, the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) lacks the capability to collect direct taxes and that will result in a host of new indirect taxes. Remember, indirect taxes are regressive in nature and take a much larger percentage of income from low-income families than from high-income earners.

To be certain, the budgetary deficit – essentially the root of all financial evil – is out of control. Yes, the financial gimmickry – of which we have become masters of – will hide the true budget deficit in layers and layers of shelves. Yes, the budget for 2017-18 guarantees more salt into the open wounds of Pakistanis.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 May 2017 17:12

Pakistan's Likely "Strategy" At ICJ . Re. Jadhav

Jadhav case to be forcefully pursued: Ausaf

ISLAMABAD: A set of recommendations has been sent to the Prime Minister’s Office and the Foreign Office, strategising how to plead Pakistan’s point of view in the public hearing on Monday before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on the conviction of Indian spy Kulbhushan Jadhav.“We have sent our recommendations to the Prime Minister’s Office and the Foreign Office,” Attorney General Ashtar Ausaf told Dawn on Friday, emphasising that it was necessary to keep all measures and options confidential ( RAA agents in Phoren and Ganja's office ) so that the other side might not know the strategy being devised.

Mr Ausaf who headed marathon meetings for two days, which were attended by the bosses of the Foreign Office and the law ministry, is expected to lead the Pakistan side before the ICJ.

But he did not rule out the possibility of engaging someone from abroad, ( is the foreign lawyer aware of Pakistan's credit rating !)saying the endeavour would be to hire the best minds on international law to advance Pakistan’s standpoint. However, he acknowledged that time was short since the hearing would begin on May 15. ( So, the FO was as usual, "sleeping on the job" )

The attorney general said a robust reply would be advanced by Pakistan in a forceful manner, refuting all allegations levelled against it and also pointing out atrocities India was getting away with committing in India-held Kashmir. Will the ICJ allow such diversion tactics

Moreover, Pakistan has a list of reservations about the court’s writ pertaining to cases that may be brought before it.The expert recalled that national security now figured among Pakistan’s listed reservations about ICJ jurisdiction which had been updated on March 29, a fortnight before Jadhav’s conviction.Indians have been claiming that the ICJ president has stayed the execution of Jadhav, although the notification of initiation of the proceedings on Monday had categorically stated...

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 May 2017 17:34

Some Claim That DJinnah Was "Progressive" But Was "Repacked As A Pious Leader" ! Controversy Over His "Famous First Speech" Still Carries On After 70 Years After Birth Of Pakiland , Amidst Accusations Of Cover-up (To Please The Islam Brigade), Doctoring The Recording, And Giving An Image Makeover To The So Called "Father Of The Nation"

Smokers' Corner: The lost recordings of Jinnah

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 May 2017 17:42

Two FC personnel injured in Quetta roadside blast

Two Frontier Core (FC) personnel injured in a road side blast at Quetta today, reported Waqt News.According to details, the bomb exploded at roadside in area of Marget.The FC vehicle was on routine petrol when it was targeted by the militants.The security forces have cordoned off the area as a search operation is underway.The injured security personnel have been rushed to the nearby hospital.The terrorist attacks have increased in Balochistan in last few days. Three days ago, the convoy of JUI-F leader and Deputy Speaker of Senate Ghafoor Haidri was targeted by militants in Mastung. At least 27 people were killed in the attack while Haidri got injured. Yesterday, the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) killed 10 labourers in Gwadar when they were working on a road. The provincial government has stated that foreign actors ( RAA must be one of the "main actors" ) are behind this recent surge.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 May 2017 17:50

Lahore Zoo faces backlash as 'Suzi' dies of sheer negligence

Pakistan is an Islamic State. In Islam the concept of "equal rights for non-humans" does not exist . The Book and the so-called Hadiths are silent on this issue; to the best of my knowledge, I do not think that any Mullah has come out with a fatwa supporting animal and bird rights. So, the "bleeding hearts" (i.e liberals ) of Pakiland can shout as much as they want. Unless the Islam Brigade takes notice of "Suzi", nothing is bound to happen

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 14 May 2017 17:54

Falijee wrote:Some Claim That DJinnah Was "Progressive" But Was "Repacked As A Pious Leader" ! Controversy Over His "Famous First Speech" Still Carries On After 70 Years After Birth Of Pakiland , Amidst Accusations Of Cover-up (To Please The Islam Brigade), Doctoring The Recording, And Giving An Image Makeover To The So Called "Father Of The Nation"

Smokers' Corner: The lost recordings of Jinnah

Pakistan - the great 20th century con game by a sickly lawyer played on the Indian muslims who desperately wanted to be conned. Half took the bait. Hindus (and the people of the region) today continue to reap the "dividends" because of it.

My two cents.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 May 2017 17:56

Rowdyism In Pindi- Chana Being Blamed On Altaf-Bhai And His Henchmen

Armed men take control of Pindi’s Top City

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 14 May 2017 18:01

Angry mob lynches boy for relations with girl

Young Abdul Sattar was shot dead after being beaten by stones and sticks by an angry mob. He was accused of having close ties with a girl belonging from the local village.

The locals established their own court and decided to beat the boy to death.

Police arrested three suspects while the main suspect behind the terrible lynching has escaped abroad.

AoA. Justice served. Example made. HS&D saved. Next...

http://nation.com.pk/national/13-May-20 ... -with-girl

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 14 May 2017 18:04

PM leaves nation at mercy of terrorists: Tahir-ul-Qadri

Pakistan Awami Tehreek’s leader Tahir-ul-Qadri said that Prime Minister of Pakistan has left the nation at the mercy of terrorists.

PM has confined himself to defending himself and his family against allegations and left the nation at the mercy of terrorists.

There is a similarity between the arrest of Kalbushan in Balochistan, terrorist incidents and revelations of defunct TTP Spokesperson.

http://nation.com.pk/national/14-May-20 ... r-ul-qadri

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 May 2017 18:54

‘Widespread’ torture by police in Pakistan condemned by United Nations

A UN committee has condemned the “widespread practice of torture” in Pakistan by police, the military and intelligence agencies in a report published on Friday, and called on Islamabad to implement urgent reforms to the law.“The police engage in the widespread practice of torture throughout the territory ... with a view to obtaining confessions from persons in custody,” the UN Committee against Torture wrote in its first report on the situation in the country, made public after months of investigation.

Pakistan, which ratified the Convention against Torture in 2010, presented its first report on the situation in the country this year – four years late.

In its findings, the UN referred to the torture of several Pakistani bloggers who had criticised extremism and the authorities, leading to weeks in arbitrary detention. Some had to flee abroad for their lives, while in other cases, their families were kept as hostages by the "Deep State" !

The National Commission of Human Rights, an organisation linked to Pakistan’s parliament, welcomed the report, saying “the publication could help start a conversation about torture” in the country. Matters like this are decided by the Deep State and not and not by the elected members of the National Assemby

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 May 2017 19:15

Pakistan Army More Confident Of Confronting India Because Of CPEC. And Other Factors .

From Jadhav to Jindal, It’s Clear the Pakistani Military is Feeling More Confident Than Ever

The current state of hostilities between India and Pakistan has grown sharper, more intense and ugly than what it was a decade ago. There is now little formal communication but increased finger pointing. Part of the problem is that the key decision makers on either side look through a different set of lenses.

The Pakistani military has built and popularised the narrative that it alone caters can secure the territorial and ideological integrity of the country and that matters between India and Pakistan may certainly not be resolved by a prime minister whose future hangs in the balance due to a court case accusing him of corruption. The recent announcement by military spokesman Maj. General Asif Ghafoor that he had withdrawn his tweet against the prime minister’s notification regarding the Dawn leaks is in no way an indicator of Sharif now having the power to move forward on India.

Sharif’s decision to send a defiant message through the sudden visit of Indian businessman Sajjan Jindal did not go down well with Pakistan’s establishment and its supporters.

It was mainly because the establishment did not find it ‘cool’ that the news of Jindal’s meeting with Sharif in Murree went viral on social media within hours, with the electronic and print media soon jumping in.

The suspicion was that Jindal might have come to warn Sharif about something or discuss the future of the Kulbhushan Jadhav affair. There is an understanding in the air that since a fairly recently retired colonel of Pakistan’s ISI went missing in Nepal, and has presumably been kidnapped by Indian intelligence, Rawalpindi might talk and even consider an exchange. But this begs the question: can the Islamabad channel work when there is such poor communication between the political head of government and the military leadership?

This confidence waned after the 2000s but seems to have returned with the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). In fact, it is stronger than what was felt in the past because, unlike the US which was always concerned about India’s reaction to arms supplies to Pakistan, Beijing’s primary concern is its one-belt-one-road (OBOR) project. Talk to some of the track-II generals and they will also add Russia as part of the new alignment between China and Pakistan. This means a level of confidence that from a historical perspective has always resulted in escalation. Since the 1960s, the risk of conflict has increased every time both India and Pakistan were at the same level of geopolitical buoyancy. India has kept Pakistani generals guessing on it's nuclear retaliation policy

This confidence waned after the 2000s but seems to have returned with the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). In fact, it is stronger than what was felt in the past because, unlike the US which was always concerned about India’s reaction to arms supplies to Pakistan, Beijing’s primary concern is its one-belt-one-road (OBOR) project. Talk to some of the track-II generals and they will also add Russia as part of the new alignment between China and Pakistan. This means a level of confidence that from a historical perspective has always resulted in escalation. Since the 1960s, the risk of conflict has increased every time both India and Pakistan were at the same level of geopolitical buoyancy.

Imperfections in the Jadhav case or Pakistan’s evidence not being watertight do not appear of much concern to the establishment. There is finally a real person in flesh and blood whose image can be flagged to the world to indicate that the two rivals are not far apart – to claim that it is not just Pakistan but India that is not investing in peace. Recently, Lt. General (retd) Tariq Khan, reputed in the West as a liberal soldier willing to gun for the Taliban, said on social media that the Pakistan army not wanting peace was the wrong story – and that it is India which does not want peace in the region. Most voices in the country who may have questioned the handling of the Jadhav issue have quietened down. It is crossing the patriotic line to ask such questions, just like going against the Modi line is considered bad political judgment in India.
The new geopolitical framework compounded with egos and hyper-confidence is a bad recipe for the region. A war is already being fought through the media. However, further escalation is not desirable. This is a time when both sides ought to apply greater caution. We can’t be found sleep-walking to disaster.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 14 May 2017 19:56

^^^ Loads of crap with some equal equal thrown in. In India, speaking against ModiJi is cottage industry, while in TSP, anything against "core interests" will result in be-heading. But that said, she does make one good point about Jhadav. And that is, TSP seems to be milking the living crap out of it. I don't know how India could have handled it any better except to have ignored TSP's machinations using Jhadav. But once India reacted forcefully, and rightfully so, TSP got what it wanted and now, not only is a poor man's life at stake, but as she says, TSP is making this an equal equal with India on terror. This has done 2 things. In the eyes of its 3.5, its equal equal, and more importantly, TSPA has managed to rally its own Abduls using Jhadav. Even so called "liberals" like MushRatZaidi puked on Indian TV that Jhadav is "proof" on why TSP is burning.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 14 May 2017 19:59

Probably belongs more in the J&JK thread, but it does seem TSP and its proxies are feeling the heat from Indian army's terror offensive. Bot Farooq abdullah toadie and another prik are conveying TSP's message to ModiJi for an "unconditional ceasefire" and to talk to them. Look at the gall in the quote below

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 670656.cms

"If New Delhi is really sincere to initiate dialogue process it must end all operations against terror outfits and declare a unilateral ceasefire before offering unconditional talks to terrorists leadership who are the real custodians of huge sacrifices," Rasheed had said in a statement.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 May 2017 20:01

The ISI successfully "drycleaned" two Pakistanis caught in the "act of terrorism"; both of them "confessed" on TV to their "misdeeds". The man from TTP blamed India and RAA, while the girl said that these was "misguided" by ISIS propaganda . Both now appear to be successfully re-integrated back into Paki society . Now there are reports that the girl has been "offered a lectureship position on anti-terrorism subjects:

Ayesha Siddiqa‏ @iamthedrifter 19h19 hours ago

News is Naureen Laghari will lecture agnst terrorism is she Pak's Majid Nawaz question is will she be as ineffective as him?

PS: Should Ehsanullah, a pashtoon, and the ex TTP spokesperson be given a lectureship position at the "famous University Of Jihad" at Akora Khattack

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 14 May 2017 20:17

Pakistan's First Budget in 1948 allocated 41% of the budget for Army and now in 2014 its just 17.5%

It must have been 75% for the Armed Forces i.e. 41% for the Army and balance 34% for the Navy and Air Force combined.

Of course we have the following by A_Gupta Ji :

Hussain Haqqani, in his book, Magnificent Delusions, writes: "Prime Minister Liaquat Ali Khan proudly told troops of the 144 Brigade in Lahore on April 8, 1948, that their government had allocated 75 percent of its budget for national defense". [37]

[37] == Dawn, April 10, 1948, "Liaquat asks Army for Social Service and Sacrifices".
Cheers

arun · Post by **arun** » 14 May 2017 21:13

Falijee wrote:Pakistani team to visit Nepal to locate missing army officer

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After today’s news that a Mohammadden Terrorist who was caught crossing over from Nepal was found to be holding a passport of the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan and found to have flow in from there via the Missle East, India must be cautious and ensure that this search for the missing Uniformed Jihadi Lt. Col. Mohammed Habib Zahir will not be used to survey infiltration routes from Nepal ito India. India must make it plain to Nepal that a team of Uniformed Jihadi’s from the Mohammadden Terrorism Foment Punjabi dominated Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan will not be tolerated sniffing around the area close to India’s border:

Hizbul Mujahideen terrorist nabbed from Indo-Nepal border, Pak passport recovered

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 15 May 2017 00:39

The original sin

Is it the dawn of a new era?

The sound and fury engulfing the so-called ‘Dawn Leaks’ issue camouflaged the most important aspect of the entire affair while exposing a dangerous lack of basic comprehension on the part of two of the three key stakeholders. Make no mistake: the effect of the affair may have been uneasily resolved but the real cause continues to fester like an open wound.

The civil-military divide may have been bridged for now, but in the larger scheme of things, we are worse off than before. Take a moment to let this sink in.

Cheers

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 15 May 2017 02:38

arun wrote:
Falijee wrote:Pakistani team to visit Nepal to locate missing army officer

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After today’s news that a Mohammadden Terrorist who was caught crossing over from Nepal was found to be holding a passport of the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan and found to have flow in from there via the Missle East, India must be cautious and ensure that this search for the missing Uniformed Jihadi Lt. Col. Mohammed Habib Zahir will not be used to survey infiltration routes from Nepal ito India. India must make it plain to Nepal that a team of Uniformed Jihadi’s from the Mohammadden Terrorism Foment Punjabi dominated Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan will not be tolerated sniffing around the area close to India’s border:

Hizbul Mujahideen terrorist nabbed from Indo-Nepal border, Pak passport recovered

I had heard from a Nepali friend whose family has been serving for generations in Nepal Army that Raa has a desk inside Tribhuvan International Airport and every person entering Katmandu with Paki passport has his information sent for verification. Not sure if this is urban legend in Nepal or true. Take it for what it is worth

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 15 May 2017 05:15

75pc PM youth loans go to ~~Punjab~~Pakjab

KARACHI: Three quarters of loan disbursements under the Prime Minister’s Youth Business Loan (PMYBL) scheme were in Punjab, according to the State Bank of Pakistan’s (SBP) quarterly report issued on Friday.( Because Paki PM is a Pakjabi !)

KARACHI: Three quarters of loan disbursements under the Prime Minister’s Youth Business Loan (PMYBL) scheme were in Punjab, according to the State Bank of Pakistan’s (SBP) quarterly report issued on Friday. Where does Balochistan figure in this ; are they being "punished" !

The scheme was launched by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif with Rs100bn. His daughter Maryam Nawaz was the head of the scheme, but she resigned after the Lahore High Court asked the federal government to replace her.

The fact that 75pc loans were disbursed in Punjab supports the earlier speculation about the political use of the scheme.

Islamabad, Gilgit-Baltistan, AJK and Balochistan had a share of 2pc each in total disbursements as of Dec 31.

One prominent Paki, a Pakjabi himself had this to say about the "scheme" :
Hamid Mir
‏Verified account @HamidMirPAK May 13

Once again it's Punjab and Punjab and Punjab.Where is Balochistan?People of Punjab must raise questions about Punjab

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 15 May 2017 05:33

Ganja Sharif 's" Soft Corner" For India

CPEC open for all countries, should not be politicised: PM hints India

BEIJING: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Sunday said the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) under the One Belt, One Road (OBOR) initiative, was open to all countries in the region and categorically said the project “must not be politicized.”

India has boycotted the global event citing reservations on the CPEC route passing through Gilgit-Baltistan, India claimed to be a disputed territory. The Prime Minister’s statement is apparently a response to Indian concerns and opposition. No doubt that in the corridors of Aabpara, Ganja is labelled as an "Indian Agent"

sum · Post by **sum** » 15 May 2017 06:06

I had heard from a Nepali friend whose family has been serving for generations in Nepal Army that Raa has a desk inside Tribhuvan International Airport and every person entering Katmandu with Paki passport has his information sent for verification. Not sure if this is urban legend in Nepal or true. Take it for what it is worth

Almost certainly must be true since i recall the story of IB operations in Nepal published in THE WEEK 7 or 8 years back which had mentioned of how IB folks used to hang around in the airport with the Nepali police waiting for their quarry to deboard from TSP and they would usually be goat-napped at the airport itself.

So, cooperation does run deep and am sure would have significantly increased in these last few years

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 15 May 2017 07:38

sum wrote:

I had heard from a Nepali friend whose family has been serving for generations in Nepal Army that Raa has a desk inside Tribhuvan International Airport and every person entering Katmandu with Paki passport has his information sent for verification. Not sure if this is urban legend in Nepal or true. Take it for what it is worth
Almost certainly must be true since i recall the story of IB operations in Nepal published in THE WEEK 7 or 8 years back which had mentioned of how IB folks used to hang around in the airport with the Nepali police waiting for their quarry to deboard from TSP and they would usually be goat-napped at the airport itself.

So, cooperation does run deep and am sure would have significantly increased in these last few years

I would actually be upset if that were not the case, since the open border between Nepal and India allows all vermin to pass through, therefore anyone entering Nepal by air or land border from Tibet should be treated as though they are entering India itself.

arun · Post by **arun** » 15 May 2017 12:16

Devirupa Mitra on the legal nuances of the Commander Kulbhushan Sudhir Jadhav (Retd) case that India has taken to the International Court of Justice (ICJ).

Apparently ICJ compulsory jurisdiction cannot be limited in case of obligations arising under specific treaties entered into such as the Optional Protocol to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations which the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan has signed. Thus the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistans fresh set of limitations on ICJ Compulsory Jurisdiction put in just before handing down sentence to Commander Kulbhushan Jadhav (Retd), has no effect. Further India’s complaint is under article 36(1) and not article 36(2) under which Pakistan put in fresh limitations on ICJ’s Compulsory Jurisdiction.

Well worth a read. Read on:

Kulbhushan Jadhav case: Pak's new declaration to ICJ will have no impact

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 15 May 2017 16:32

Pakistan Interior Minister - And Defacto PM- Asks Aam Abduls Not To Criticize Pakistan Army - In This Day And Age Of Social Media !

FIA comes to military’s rescue as Nisar orders action against those ridiculing Pakistan Army

Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar on Sunday directed the Federal Investigation Agency's (FIA) Cyber Crime Wing to take action against "those ridiculing Pakistan Army on social media" in order to protect "the prestige, reputation and goodwill" of the armed forces."As far as the freedom of speech is concerned, the Constitution makes it clear that national security and defence institutions would not be criticised and that citizens would not engage themselves in any activity that causes damage to the prestige, reputation and goodwill of Pak army," Nisar was quoted as saying in a statement issued by the ministry."Ridiculing Pakistan Army or its officers in the name of freedom of speech is unacceptable," he maintained. As of now, the Paki Deep State has been making people "disappear" if you are caught ridiculing Paki Fauj !

The regulator warned all TV channels against airing unverified news or analysis themed around the Pakistan Army or its relationship with the civilian government. In the case of TV channels, they are "slapped" with a big fine by PEMRA - the TV Police !

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 15 May 2017 18:21

Jadhav could be executed before arguments are heard: India - PTI

India fears that Kulbhushan Jadhav could be executed by Pakistan before its arguments are heard, India’s attorney Harish Salve said at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) today.

The Indian national, who had been arrested on March 3 last year and sentenced to death on allegations of espionage and subversive activities, had been framed on the basis of confessional statements extracted from him when he was in Pakistan’s military custody, Salve added.

As the ICJ began hearing Jadhav’s case, India argued that human rights treated as “basics” all over had been thrown into the wind by Pakistan.

"We want appropriate legal representation for Jadhav,'' India told the UN’s main judicial body which has stayed his death sentence.

New Delhi has called for immediate suspension of Jadhav’s death sentence and accused Pakistan of violating the Vienna convention by denying its 16 requests for consular access.

All requests for consular access to 46-year-old Jadhav had fallen on “deaf ears”, it said.

The present situation, Salve said before the court, was grave and that is why India had sought its indulgence. He described Jadhav’s trial process as “farcical” and stressed that Pakistan did not respond to Jadhav’s mother’s plea to see her son.

India is presenting its case first, followed by Pakistan later in the day. Both sides will get 90 minutes each to argue their case.

India may avail a “short extension” to present its case, the judge said in his opening remarks.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 15 May 2017 18:54

Who is the colonial sepoy moron that's representing paki in ICJ.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 15 May 2017 19:34

Karthik, whom are you referring to?

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 15 May 2017 19:47

Karthik S wrote:Who is the colonial sepoy moron that's representing paki in ICJ.

Mashalla bhat a TFTA accent!! I am sooar all the judges must be truly smitten by the awsome charm of this inbred paki who seem to be more brishit than the brishiters themselves.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 15 May 2017 19:50

Wnere are you guys seeing this twat?

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 15 May 2017 19:57

@JEM: There is live feed on ToI showing this pig with a moth eaten wig..

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 15 May 2017 19:59

Ok, tx

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 15 May 2017 20:39

oh man, I couldn't even puke at the paki perfidy on display. Do they really think that putting on a TFTA honch with britshit accent will negate India? OMG. Anyway, guys, will ICJ say something today itself or will we have to wait for days, weeks, and months?

The longer this drags on, TSP wins, because pretty soon equal equal will come into play and there will be calls for negotiations which is exactly what TSP wants. Force India to the negotiating table and then play another set of games by drawing in all of their pet demands.

Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 15 May 2017 20:46

Narad wrote:
Karthik S wrote:Who is the colonial sepoy moron that's representing paki in ICJ.
Mashalla bhat a TFTA accent!! I am sooar all the judges must be truly smitten by the awsome charm of this inbred paki who seem to be more brishit than the brishiters themselves.

Who? What? Where? I seem to be missing all the action. Links pliss

To paraphrase Perd Hapley from Parks and Rec, I don't know what's happening but 'it had the cadence of a joke'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8cA55-hOIg

naruto · Post by **naruto** » 15 May 2017 21:03

What I really liked is the royal snub our delegation head Dr Mittal gave the paki head by not shaking his hand. The paki extended his hand for almost 10 sec while exchanging pleasentaries but Dr Mittal refused to shake and ended with a namaste.

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 15 May 2017 21:37

Now wait for the news articles from porkland..

Yindians are Short, Dark, Rice eating.. hence they have small hearts and arms not strong enough to take a martial handshake from TFTAs

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 15 May 2017 22:15

Apparently this guy belonging no less than to the most pious qureshi tribe of islam, maybe a distant european relative of pbuh, is currently trending on twitter

https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q="khawar+qureshi"

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 15 May 2017 22:23

The Snub.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 15 May 2017 22:39

Pakistanis know they are running headlong into economic slavery under china, and CPEC will destroy their economy. But their faujis, as in this program, will spin it differently. Pakistan will get destroyed by China due to CPEC. The question is, will Pakistan hand over land to China, like Tajikistan did? Will they hand over POK to china in the future? They have already handed over Gawadar to them for 99 years.

इंडिया Solar Power से ₹2.97 / Unit से बिजली बना रहा हे और हम चीन की कोयले से ₹8.5 से बिजली ले रहे हे

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFTdTDRy4ac

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 16 May 2017 01:38

Look at the power of inbreeding

Paki lawyer in "morning hearing":

Pakistani lawyer said that Jadhav is a "spy," to support its allegations that retired Navy officer was sent by India to carry out espionage activities and was arrested from the restive Balochistan province.

Paki lawyer in "evening part of hearing":

"The Pakistani lawyer said that India has not proved that Jadhav was an Indian national"

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 16 May 2017 01:53

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PM Sharif slated to meet US President Trump in upcoming visit to Saudi Arabia

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and United States President Donald Trump will meet for the first time in Saudi Arabia, sources in the Foreign Office confirmed.Nawaz Sharif is expected to land in Saudi Arabia on May 20 for the US-Arab-Islamic summit, which will see leaders from across the world participate in the event.

Sources in the FO confirmed that a meeting between Sharif and Trump was planned; however, a fixed date, time and agenda of the meeting are yet to be finalised.Are the Pakis "jumping the gun" as usual and putting the Saudis and the Amreekis in an embarrassing situation. Is Ganja "gatecrashing the Saudis "party" for Trump; will probably meet POTUS in a social setting ( i.e. reception or dinner ) What if Trump snubs the Paki PM, based on his past (phone ) exercise; did Raheel use his "influence" in this matter

This will be the first time the two heads of state will meet in person, having only talked on the phone a few months ago before Trump's inauguration.While Trump called Pakistan 'fantastic' in his phone conversation with the premier, the US president has historically expressed his resentment for the country. In a tweet from 2011, Trump had said, "Get it Straight: Pakistan is not our friend."

Nawaz Sharif to meet Pres Donald Trump in Riyadh, meeting arranged by Saudi Royals & now this tweet....join the dots

According to a Paki paper, US Ambassador met Hameed Haroon EX CEO Dawn (and one time America's man in Pakistan ) and re-affirmed American support for freedom of the press