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Beijing to PM Modi: Don’t raise Pakistan terror issue at BRICS

BEIJING: China on Thursday sent out a signal that it would object to any discussion about Pakistan's role in sheltering terrorists during the upcoming BRICS summit , which will be attended by Prime Minister Narendra Modi+ . China is worried Modi may raise the issue at the meeting because he did so at the Goa summit of BRICS last year while describing Pakistan as the "mother-ship of terrorism".

"We also noticed that India, when it comes to Pakistan's counter-terrorism, has some concerns. I don't think this is an appropriate topic to be discussed at BRICS summit," Hua Chunying, Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson, said at a briefing. She also indicated that raising the topic might affect the success of the summit because Chinese leaders may be forced to defend its close ally, Pakistan.

"The world is paying great attention to the BRICS summit. I hope relevant parties can work with China to ensure the success of the summit and make due contributions," Hua said. She meant the five members of BRICS including India when she mentioned "relevant parties".

This time the BRICS summit is taking place on September 3 in Xiamen in China, which regards Pakistan as an "all-weather friend". India is in a stronger position to raise the issue because US president Donald Trump recently accused Pakistan of sheltering terrorists and threatened to withdraw financial aid if Islamabad refuses to mend its ways. There are chances Chinese leaders might come to Pakistan's defence+ at the summit.

One of the main objectives of BRICS is to enhance cooperation between the five member countries in fighting against terrorism. But it is difficult for India to join hands in any meaningful manner unless Beijing adopts a different attitude on this issue when it comes to the role of Pakistan.

Hua said, "Pakistan is at forefront of counter terror efforts and has made sacrifices for this. The international community should recognize their contributions and sacrifices made by Pakistan."

She added, "China is willing to work with Pakistan and other countries to enhance our cooperation in counterterrorism. This serves the common interest of all parties."

China routinely refers to "sacrifices" made by Pakistan in battling terrorism but refuses to discuss flawed policies of Pakistani military and government that results in bloodshed across the country.

In an interesting twist, the hawkish Global Times indirectly blamed Islam for terrorism, and said India is mostly free from terrorism because it is largely a Hindu nation. Terrorism exists in an "arc" of Asian countries including Pakistan and Philippines with significant Muslim presence, it said.

"There are tensions at various degrees at various junctions in this arc where it encounters other religions and ethnicity but a dent exists in the Indian portion of this arc," the paper said.

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I don't agree with chinese reasoning to refrain criticising pak in BRICS, but in principle I agree that we should not use each and every intl forum to complain about pak. We seem like whining boys and may be rude not to maintain sanctity of certain forums.
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Lack of killer instict! It is India's constant drumbeat on pak which isolates them. That xi does not want to hear it, means it's effective. There is not much sanctity of such fora, it's all a powerplay.
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Bhookha Nanga decides to launch $1 bn Sukuk Bond after Eid

Govt decides to launch $1 bn Sukuk Bond after Eid
I SLAM A BAD : In a bid to bridge the financing gap on external accounts, the government has decided to kick-start the process for launching around $1 billion Sukuk Bond after Eidul Azha and the upcoming transaction will be accomplished by end October or early November this year, The News has learnt.
“The pre-launch process for international bond will start after Eid and issue timing will be decided in accordance with market conditions, ample appetite and advice of joint leader managers,” Federal Minister for Finance Ishaq Dar confirmed when The News sought his comments on Thursday.
Pakistan’s total liquid foreign reserves held by the country stood at $20.001 billion on 25th August, 2017. The foreign reserve held by the State Bank of Pakistan was $14.343 billion and foreign currency held by the commercial banks stood at $5.657 billion, totaling the reserves up to $20.001 billion.
During the week ending 25th August, 2017, SBP’s reserves decreased by $32 million to $14,343 million due to payments on account of external debt servicing.
In order to shore up foreign reserves and bridging the financing gap on external account, the government is exploring all its options including relying upon non-debt creating inflows as well as debt inflows for avoiding depletion of reserves in months and years ahead. Pakistan’s current account deficit touched new heights and stood at over $12 billion for last fiscal year 2016-17. The government had projected to curtail the current account deficit at $10 billion but it rose sharply and stood at $2 billion for first month (July 2017)
The execution of this plan for increasing dwindling reserves is the dire need of the hour otherwise it is written on the wall that Islamabad will have to again knock at the door of the IMF anytime in 2018. It is yet to see how the politically weak government which is making last ditch efforts for its survival will be able to steer the economy out of abyss for short to medium term period in months and years ahead
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Like Michael Douglas Kulsoom Nawaz has throat cancer and has had surgery
LONDON: Begum Kulsoom Nawaz, the wife of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif, underwent throat cancer surgery on Thursday.
I think we all should send the Good Lady a “Get Well” Card
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Clapistani Bred Terrorist Birdies come Home to Roost!

Mind of a killer

The JIT report of Mufti Shakir’s interrogation in Karachi’s Central Prison in March 2014 offers a chilling insight into the mindset of a violent extremist, while the events that followed illustrate the terrible failings of our criminal justice system.

Mufti Shakir was arrested on suspicion of having masterminded the bombing that had killed Sindh’s counterterrorism chief Chaudhry Aslam in January that year.

During his interrogation — which included the confession that he had also murdered 10 policemen and an army soldier — Mufti Shakir claimed he had offered to undertake the suicide mission against SP Aslam himself. However, a Lashkar-i-Jhangvi accomplice dissuaded him, saying that as a ‘religious scholar’ his skills as a preacher were too important to be sacrificed.

So Mufti Shakir, says the JIT report, mentally prepared a 25-year-old named Naimatullah over the course of a week for the task. The success of the operation was a huge morale booster for the many extremist groups fighting the state and, conversely, a major setback for law-enforcement authorities.

If given credence, the account confirms in several ways what is thus far known about the ‘traditional’ path to militancy for many in the ’90s: poverty, a madressah education with a lack of any substantial formal schooling, and a family with equally hard-line religious beliefs.

To this country’s enduring misfortune, there were at the time numerous jihadi outfits that young men with extremist mindsets could join and where their inclination to violence would be nurtured and given an outlet. Having worked his way through several of them, Mufti Shakir joined the TTP in 2012. As a ‘commander’ he proceeded to radicalise the next generation of recruits — such as the young man who was cannon fodder in the elimination of SP Aslam.

With his violent past and clear potential for further mayhem, not to mention the findings of the JIT report, it can scarcely be comprehended how this high-level militant managed to get bail. The abject failure by investigative authorities to build a prosecutable case against him has had deadly consequences.

It is believed that having fled to Afghanistan where he is running a training camp for militants, Mufti Shakir has since dispatched operatives to target police officials in Karachi. The confluence of single-minded militants and a criminal justice system whose weaknesses defy belief amounts to a scenario in which it will be near impossible for Pakistan to win its battle against terrorism.

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milano wrote:I really don't understand ISPRs propensity for action shots of jumping, levitation and doing the Riverdance.

Remember this blast from the past?

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Pakis love those leaping mujahids, don't they?

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Peregrine wrote:Beijing to PM Modi: Don’t raise Pakistan terror issue at BRICS

"We also noticed that India, when it comes to Pakistan's counter-terrorism, has some concerns. I don't think this is an appropriate topic to be discussed at BRICS summit," Hua Chunying, Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson, said at a briefing. She also indicated that raising the topic might affect the success of the summit because Chinese leaders may be forced to defend its close ally, Pakistan.
But, isn't that what India wants? To have the chinis publicly defend a rogue nation that has been called out as a covert supporter of global terrorism? Now chinis will have to decide where they stand. Chun Mun Kya Hua just overstepped her brief.
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Mushy's foot in the mouth disease. His ego often gets in his way. Now, the least the paki courts can do is to prosecute him for releasing state secrets.

Musharraf’s remarks
On Wednesday, the Senate resounded with speeches denouncing the former military dictator after he spoke yet again, carelessly and glibly, in the media about the A.Q. Khan nuclear proliferation saga that became public on the general’s watch.
Unhappily, greater considerations of the national good continue to escape Mr Musharraf, who speaks in an off-the-cuff manner about issues that could have unpleasant ramifications for the country he once led.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1355188/musharrafs-remarks
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Hoping for the impossible. (Where's the towel thread when you need one?)

‘We are one’
I have not ever before witnessed the extreme political polarisation existing in the country today; ironically, fostered not on ideologies but on agendas of various political demagogues.
I for one conclude that a unified Pakistan is well nigh impossible under democracy.
Because democracy is a zero-sum game, one party wins and everybody else loses, and unfortunately all factions of our ruling elite simply do not have the maturity or character to digest losing.
you have a nation going after each other’s throats over trivial pursuits, while our enemies rejoice.
As far as one can see, if the enemies of our state wanted to sow discord amongst our ranks, we have offered them this prize on a platter; they have to do absolutely nothing.
I was surfing through the umpteen news channels, while simultaneously perusing Twitter, and ended up being depressed to the core.
And I am someone who belongs to the educated class
is the noble objective of serving the people of Pakistan really the driving force behind all-out confrontational politics? Can good intentions generate so much ill?
Considering our geo­g­raphy, few friends and many enemies, and considering that we stand almost alone today, we have not only survived very well, we have grown.
once the guardians of the Islamic world, we seem to be struggling to maintain cordial relationships even with our staunch Muslim allies. Enemies at all gates, this is the worst time to continue to find excuses for domestic conflicts.
Conclusion: Seventy years after independence, let’s remember our strength, we are one.
Hain?

The writer is a chartered accountant based in Islamabad.

Oh, OK. Sialkoti beliefs + gujranwala logic = Bhee are bun. Malsi is the answer.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1355183/we-are-one
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Chinese envoy rejects allegations of corruption in Multan Metro Bus project
China's acting Ambassador Zhao Lijian on Thursday rejected allegations of corruption levelled against Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif, saying reports of him receiving kickbacks from the Multan Metro Bus project through a 'fake' Chinese firm are false.
the Chinese company in the middle of the scandal, Yabaite, was not operating in Pakistan and had presented "fake letters to cheat [the] government
He added that the Chinese government had taken action against the firm.
So, let me get this right. Chinis just threw one of their own under the bus (no pun intended) to protect the pakjabi CM?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1355368/chine ... us-project
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CPEC, OBOR, CHINA, CLAPISTAN : I have waited since 2016 for the "Chinese" Nature to show its true colors. Here it is - all the way from Clapistan.

Chinese ‘rigidity’ rattles Pakistani businesses

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Pakistani businesses find the Chinese too mechanical and rigid to deal with.

Accustomed to a Western business negotiation and partnership style they found the predetermined and strictly limited terms of engagement of our Oriental partners a bit unsettling.

It is not an accident that despite the scope and promise, the private sector’s share in projects under the CPEC umbrella is negligible.

Faced with a completely different style of doing business, the private sector finds it difficult to keep its head above water

Naheed Memon, chairperson of the Sindh Board of Investment, told Dawn recently that she expected a significant increase in the participation of the private sector once special economic zones become operational.

Khizar Hayat Gondal, federal secretary for industries, promised to share information but nothing was received till filing of this report. Board of Investment chairman Dr Miftah Ismail, who recently moved his office to Prime Minister House, was too busy to offer comments.

The representatives of the business class blamed the Chinese for the issue. “China, though not explicitly hostile to private sector participation in CPEC projects, implicitly prefers dealing with the government,” an executive commented.

The four-year track record of progress, since signing of the bilateral deal in July 2013, reflected China’s seriousness towards CPEC.

So far 59 projects have been identified (17 in energy, 11 Gwadar, eight infrastructure, two digital, four rail-based transit, six provincial road, port, water, mining, nine special economic zones, and two related to social development).

Of all, four projects in the energy sector are operational, with Sahiwal coal-fired power plant contributing 1,000 megawatts, Sachal wind farm in Jhimpir 50MW, UEP wind farm in Jhimpir 100MW, and HydroChina Dawood wind farm in Gharo 50MW.

The remaining are at different stages of progress monitored closely, according to details available on the dedicated government website.

China clearly appeared determined to push through investment in the agreed projects with or without private companies. It was not ready to wait for private investors to digest the initiative and neither did it seem to have an appetite for private sector tantrums.

For the Pakistani business community, therefore, it was a paradoxical situation. Cognisant of the scale and value of the gigantic investment drive under CPEC, they understand that they can’t afford to watch from the sidelines but the challenges of dealing with Chinese investors look insoluble.

“They are both reluctant and keen to enter into joint ventures with the Chinese,” commented an official at the CPEC directorate in Islamabad.

“The government of Pakistan will have to intervene to pave the way for a flow of local private capital and expertise in CPEC-related projects. The Chinese state-owned companies active so far lack the interest and flexibility required to attract private companies,” commented a top government functionary associated with CPEC.

“Weaned on government support and conditioned by a Westernised business culture, hopes for Pakistani tycoons to cut deals with Chinese in the immediate future are dim. The stories circulated by people already in a business relationship with the Chinese did not help either. The perception of bureaucratic bottlenecks in China has deepened during the past four years,” he added.

Talking about joint ventures with the Chinese, business circles mentioned Descon, Gatron and Al-Haj Group as leading the trend in power generation, engineering and the chemical sector. Outside CPEC, the Al-Haj FAW Motors rolled out its first car from their plant at Port Qasim in Karachi this month.

CEO of Engro Power­gen and Sindh Engro Coal Mining Company Shamsuddin Sheikh, who is partnering with two Chinese companies — State Power International Mendong and China Machinery Engineering Corporation — was perfectly satisfied with the progress and the relationship.

He did express a desire of a longer term relationship with some premium for experience of working together.

“Yes, business dynamics and the quality of relationship vary with different overseas partners. We have experience working with Japanese, European and US companies. For us the learning graph was steep. In the case of the Chinese, with their narrow focus on the bottom line and separate brief for each project, it is harder to capitalise on investment in trust between business partners,” he commented.

Another businessman commented, “When China chose Pakistan for a huge investment initiative under the ‘One Belt, One Road’ plan, it generated euphoria in the business circles. However, just four years later it seems to be giving way to despair. The inability of private Pakistani companies to match Chinese demands has frustrated tycoons.”

The businessmen are said to be approaching the government to mediate business deals with Chinese investors.

“Diplomatically, China’s support for Pakistan has been consistent. The sailing might not prove to be as smooth on the economic front under CPEC,” commented an investment officer.

“Last week China did not mince words and responded strongly in defence of Pakistan to President Trump’s harsh remarks. When it comes to economic interest its attitude is cold and calculating,” he said.

Other government officers involved in managing affairs related to economic cooperation between the two countries endorsed the view. “In contrast to the Pakistani stance of bending backward to accommodate the Chinese, their attitude is cut and dry. They dictate terms that promote their own material interest first and foremost.”

Pakistani companies in joint ventures with Chinese reported a lack of warmth in partners. “Unlike our business partners of the Middle East, the Far Eastern regions, Japan, Europe and America, the Chinese are just keen to complete the project on hand. They don’t seem to care about capitalising on subsequent business opportunities unravelled over the course,” an executive told Dawn.

CPEC-level cooperation is new. And while some anxiety on either side is natural, the difficulties are also rooted in political systems. The dynamics of a centralised monolithic government in China are grossly different from a multi-party democratic set-up here.

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US Envoy "Downplays" POTUS Threat To Pakis !

Trump does not blame Pakistan for Afghan failure: Envoy
ISLAMABAD - United States Ambassador to Pakistan David Hale called on National Security Adviser Lt Gen (r) Nasser Khan Janjua ( So Hale called on Janjua , and not Janjua on Hale . H&D kept intact !) on Thursday and discussed the new US strategy on Afghanistan and South Asia announced by President Trump in his address at Fort Myers on August 20. The cordial discussion lasted for fifty minutes, says a press release.
Ambassador Hale said that the press had generally taken the policy piece by piece instead of interpreting it as a whole. He clarified that President Trump did not blame Pakistan for failure in Afghanistan.It was also wrong to assume that the policy recommended a purely military solution or that engagement with Pakistan had been ruled out, he added.Military strategy, he said, was just one piece of the policy which espoused a political solution. (It seems that POTUS's loose tongue and undiplomatic language- not only on Pakistan but also on NOKo - has Massa diplomatic staff, scrambling for "damage control" - as in this case, IMO. If he decides to make good on the threats, then its fine :mrgreen: ) .
US ambassador displayed a cooperative outlook and expressed his desire to work closely with Pakistan to find solutions. The policy, he added, supported the role of regional countries in a peaceful settlement where Pakistan had an important role to play. :roll:
Thanking ambassador for the cooperative outlook, NSA said that Pakistan was taking its time to fully examine the new policy and considering all options and would like to receive further details from the US side.He said this notwithstanding President Trump’s address at Fort Myers was disappointing and had deeply hurt the feelings of the government and the people of Pakistan.“Pakistan had been wrongly blamed, threatened and negatively projected to the world which was unacceptable. Our nuclear weapons were wrongly linked with terrorism which was totally uncalled for,” he added.
The retired Fauji has "forgotten" Xerox Khan's transfer of nuclear technology to Iran and North Korea !
NSA stressed the need for working together to stabilise Afghanistan. He said, “We all should work together to seek the closure of conflict in Afghanistan instead of winning it. Victory in war, he said, resides in the way war is prosecuted. He identified faulty persecution of war in Afghanistan as the reason of rise in violence.He further said, “One should not try and win war in Afghanistan by way of vengeance as this will further spread the conflict and spiral things out of control. The NSA appears to be downplaying the earlier severe criticism of the US by the Paki media and the toning down of the earlier rhetoric, which has resulted in anti-US protests in major cities of Pakiland !
The US ambassador agreed with the suggestion to seek the closure of conflict in Afghanistan. :roll:
NSA also clarified to the US ambassador that any kinetic :-? action will further vitiate the situation and hence be avoided.
Ambassador US agreed and said, “We rather need to normalise the situation.
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Hidden Landmine Blast Dampens Eid Celebrations In Mohmand Agency Of FATA

Bomb kills three in Mohmand Agency
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A bomb attack killed three people and wounded two others in a relatively peaceful area of Pakistan's northwestern tribal district early Friday, officials said.A father and his son were among those killed as they returned home from Eid prayers in the Ambar area of Mohmand, one of the seven semi-autonomous tribal districts along the Afghan border, reported BBC Urdu."The improvised explosive device (IED) planted near the mosque exploded when people were returning home after offering prayers," Sikandar Shah, a local government official, told AFP.All those killed and wounded were civilians, Shah said. An official from the local tribal police confirmed the incident and casualties.
Violence in Pakistan has declined in recent years following a series of military offensives against insurgents along the northwestern border. But the remnants of militant groups are still able to carry out periodic bloody attacks, particularly in the northwest.
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Paki Paper Hints That Musharaf Might Be Behind This Prosecutor's Unsolved Death

BB murder case: A gallant officer who lost life in the line of duty
SLAMABAD - After the assassination of former prime minister and Pakistan People’s Party leader Benazir Bhutto at Liaquat Bagh in Rawalpindi in 2007, a gallant prosecutor also lost his life later in an effort to bring the culprits to justice.
Federal Investigation Agency’s (FIA) officer Chaudhary Zulfiqar Ali, who was the prosecutor in the Benazir Bhutto murder case, was assassinated on May 4, 2013, while coming out of his residence in Islamabad to go to the anti-terrorism court (ATC) in Rawalpindi for a hearing in connection with the murder case. He was the FIA prosecutor investigating the murder case. Chaudhary Zulfiqar was ambushed in G-9 Sector. He was also the top prosecutor in the Mumbai attacks case.
According to reports, Chaudhry Zulfikar was scheduled to submit a charge-sheet in the Rawalpindi ATC against former president Pervez Musharraf in connection with the Benazir murder case. The attackers riding a motorcycle sprayed his car with bullets and fatally injured the prosecutor who later died at a hospital. A pedestrian woman had also lost her life after his out-of-control car hit her. The Deep State, with the tacit approval of Mush could be behind both killings !
One of Chaudhary’s bodyguards, Frontier Constabulary constable, Farman Ali, was also injured in the cross-fire. Later, the attackers fled the scene. It was not immediately clear who was responsible for the shooting. It seems that the prosecutor was starting to take his job "too seriously " :mrgreen:
The fingers for the killing of the top prosecutor were pointed at various quarters including jihadist organizations. Of course, the Deep State, like other such organizations operates on the principle of "plausible deniability" !
According to the reports, the prosecutor had also initiated to arrest former dictator Musharraf in the same case, a move that might have angered some quarters in the establishment. Reports said that Chaudhary Zulfiqar was also close to submitting a final evidence against seven members of the Lashkar-e-Taiba militant group, being held in connection with the 2008 Mumbai killings
Later in September 2013, the murder case of Chaudhary Zulfiqar was ‘resolved’ with the disclosure that the body buried at the residence of Hammad Adil, a prime accused in the Bhara Kahu bombing case, was of the assassin of the FIA prosecutor. The police claimed that the body belonged to terrorist Haris, who had attacked Chaudhry Zulfiqar and he (Haris) was killed in a retaliatory fire by the FC guards
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US Stops $ 225 Million Aid Transfer. Wants Evidence That Pakistan Is Indeed "Going After" Terrorist Havens, Before Funds Are Released. !

US links $255m aid with elimination of alleged terrorist safe havens in Pakistan
WASHINGTON – In a fresh and harsh move, the Trump administration has held back previously promised military aid of $255 million to Pakistan by attaching it with elimination of alleged safe havens of terrorists in the country.
According to State Department, the new restrictions will allow it to review the level of its cooperation with Islamabad before making new commitments.‘The Department notified Congress on August 30 of our intent to obligate $255 million in FY 2016 Foreign Military Financing for Pakistan. At the same time, the Department is placing a pause on spending those funds and on allocating them to any specific FMF sales contracts,’ said the State Department in a statement sent to leading daily Dawn. This is what happens when you decide to become a "rentier state". Take it and lump it - whether you like it or not :mrgreen:
The significance of said fund, FMF can be gauged fom the fact that it provides grants and loans to assist countries purchase US weapons and defence equipment and for acquiring defence services and military training in the United States.The state department revealed that the decision was consistent with the new South Asian policy which would give leverage to Trump-led America to review level of cooperation with Pakistan prior to committing new security assistance resources. Maybe, this is the real reason why US Envoy Hale came to talk to the NSA
In its notification to the US Congress on Wednesday, the administration said it was putting the entire amount into an escrow account implying that Pakistan could access only if it did more to ‘eradicate alleged terrorist safe havens in the tribal areas and stopped cross-border attacks in Afghanistan’. Trust and verify !
The funds were promised during the second stint of Barack Obama, back in 2015 with a pledge to release them by 2016,however, the Trump administration held back and attached new conditions.The $255 million in military assistance was the largest portion of an estimated $1.1 billion of US aid Congress had authorised in 2016.
The State Department clarified that Washington valued its ties with Islamabad and wanted to see it prosper but at the same time ‘it also wanted Islamabad to do more to eradicate terrorism’. Pakistan should know that there is a New Sheriff in town; it will not be "business as usual" at least for now :mrgreen:
It bears mentioning that the relations between Pakistan and US turned sour after the killing of Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan but it seems that the climax of fraught relations is the new policy announced by Donald Trump last week.In his Afghan policy, Trump besides announcing more troops for Afghanistan alleged Pakistan of providing safe havens to militants.
On the other hand, Pakistan rubbished the allegations and a joint resolution in this regard was passed by the National Assembly. :((
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Veteran Paki Politico "Bad Mouths" Fauj.

Dr Qadeer told me army group was against N-tests, says Hashmi
MULTAN: Veteran politician Javed Hashmi claims Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan told him that a group in the army was not in favour of Pakistan’s nuclear tests.Talking to the media here on Thursday, the senior politician said the US attempted to roll back the nuclear programme but the democratic governments continued with the [nuclear] programme.He said there was a group of people who did not want to see Pakistan a nuclear power.
“A lobby like Pervez Musharraf was agreed to compromise on country’s nuclear programme,” he claimed. This veteran politician has been in the cross-hairs of the Paki Fauj for a long time, therefore his bias against them is understandable :D
He said Benazir Bhutto did not cap the nuclear programme but she introduced missile programme.He said Nawaz Sharif had refused to attend the calls from the US when Pakistan was going for nuclear detonation.He said the former dictator disgraced hero of nuclear programme Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan. He is "praising" Nawaz, he is "praising" BB, and he is "criticizing" Mush, who hauled him to jail !
“In 2003 at a ceremony hosted by the Saudi Arabian embassy, Dr Qadeer informed [the attendees] about the threats he was receiving from Pervez Musharraf. Admiral Abdul Aziz and Syed Mushahid Hussain were also present at that moment,” he said.Mr Hashmi said at that time Dr Qadeer was disappointed as Musharraf had made life tough for him.He said the person, who had withdrawn the security given to Benazir Bhutto, was her actual killer. His "bias" against Mush is openly shown here. :mrgreen:
He said Pervez Musharraf had stated that he would not provide security to Benazir Bhutto, so he should be made accountable for the assassination of the former prime minister.“Pervez Musharraf is the actual murderer of Benazir Bhutto and he should be brought back to Pakistan,” he said. Hashmi said: “There is not a single leader [in parliament] who could hold talks with the US. The leader has been disqualified.” By making this statement, he is obviously sympathizing with Ganja and the way he was deposed :mrgreen:
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One Time Proxy Hekmatyar Current Advice To His One Time Bosses In Pakistan: Stay Away From Afghanistan :roll:

Hekmatyar urges Pakistan to “stay away” from Afghanistan
The leader of Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin Hekmatyar has implored upon Pakistan not to use Afghanistan as a war theater for its rivalry with India. He made these remarks while meeting Sikh and Hindu Afghan nationals. The 70-year old warlord who was tauntingly known as the “Butcher of Kabul” returned to Afghanistan in April this year after an exile of 20 years. He said: “We want peace in Afghanistan and the region and the neighboring countries should help Afghanistan in bringing peace and stability.” It is very difficult to teach an old dog new tricks. ! IMO, this "snake" is still an agent of Pakistan.!
At a time when Pakistan and India are all set to further raise the bar in their rivalry, a statement from an old Pakistani sympathizer in Hekmatyar is noteworthy, to say the least. Pakistan has reiterated its objections to US’ desires of giving India a pronounced role in Afghanistan. Islamabad’s long held fears of Indian encirclement by exerting more influence in Kabul have again come to the fore. The other ethnic groups in Afghanistan will never forgive him this Pathan for destruction of Kabul and the installation of a pro-Pakistan regime in Afghanistan !
The ex-prime minister further went on to say that the fire and flames of war will further spread and will cover the whole region if peace does not return to Afghanistan. He added: “We want peace and friendly relations with all in the region and I have urged the Pakistani and Indian Ambassadors not to bring their rivalry to Afghanistan.” :roll:
Ever since his return to mainstream politics, Hekmatyar has denounced war, foreign influence and has lent support to a strong central government. Earlier this month while talking to foreign journalists he rejected any idea of a troop surge and instead called for elections.He said: “Hezb-i-Islami is ready to co-operate with the government and bring in security and stability unconditionally,” Hekmatyar said, referring to the largely dormant militant group he heads. “We accept that elections should be the only way to get to power and the participation of political parties in elections is the only way forward,” he added. If and when he gains power, then he will show his true colours !
The use of the Afghan theater in elongating the Indo-Pak tiff looks like fait accompli. Trump’s references to India have just added a new layer to already-touted proxy war between Islamabad and Delhi in Afghanistan. Adding China and the re-assertive Russia in the mix would make the Afghan conundrum more complex.
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CNN - Once His Ardent Admirer - Now Declares Mush A Fugitive From Justice :mrgreen:

Former Pakistan leader Musharraf declared fugitive in Bhutto murder case
By Sophia Saifi and Adeel Raja, CNN

Is it safe to say that from now on CNN will treat him like a leper, and will not be "called upon" to "disburse his so-called expert opinion" on Paki affairs :twisted:
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Adding fuel to the fire

The much-awaited US strategy for Afghanistan has recently been announced. Unfortunately, this strategy does not give much cause for hope for the war-ravaged country, nor for the rest of the region.

Despite his earlier promises to withdraw US troops, President Donald Trump has decided to allow continued American military presence to help train Afghan forces and conduct counterterrorism operations. While the efficiency of this tried and tested approach in ending the Afghan conflict seems limited, it is a relief at least to see that Eric Prince’s outsourced ‘mercenary’ approach towards the Afghan war has not been officially endorsed, for now at least.

The Trump administration’s overarching rationale that a hasty withdrawal from Afghanistan would create a vacuum for terrorists, including ISIS and al Qaeda, as it did in Iraq, did make sense to a lot of people. Trump’s announcement to end time-barred commitments for US military presence in Afghanistan has also been similarly appreciated. However, most of the other measures announced to deal with the Afghan imbroglio have caused significant disconcertment, especially in Pakistan.

Asserting that Islamabad must crack down on militant groups making trouble in Afghanistan is a message that Pakistan has heard many times before. The Trump administration has, however, offered nothing to allay Pakistan’s fears, instead it has furthered its insecurities by encouraging a more proactive role for India in Afghanistan. Our civil and military leadership has expressed serious reservations over this specific aspect of the US policy on Afghanistan. Pakistan has even signalled that it may withdraw from the US-led efforts in the Afghan reconciliation process, if the Trump administration continues its blunt and increasingly coercive policies towards Pakistan.

Perhaps to temper Pakistan’s response, the US secretary of state has since acknowledged that resolving the Kashmir issue could help bring peace in Afghanistan. Yet, one cannot read too much into a statement by the understaffed and underfunded State Department, which is itself struggling to yield influence within the current US administration. Washington’s policy on Kashmir cannot change meaningfully if it just encourages the two sides to talk, while at the same time adopting a much differentiated policy towards the two countries, with an increasingly punitive approach towards Pakistan, and increasing accommodation of Indian aspirations to emerge as an Asian superpower to rival China.

In the aftermath of the Trump speech, Pakistan has postponed a visit of the US acting assistant secretary of state for South and Central Asian Affairs, and our foreign secretary has instead met China’s special envoy on Afghan affairs. Our newly-appointed foreign minister is supposed to visit the US soon, and it still seems that this visit is still on track, even if its outcome remains to be seen. It was disappointing however to see Khawaja Asif recently take to Twitter to accuse our former US ambassador, Hussain Haqqani, of ‘authoring’ Trump’s new approach towards Pakistan. Mr Haqqani is no stranger to controversy, with his recent claims that he helped facilitate the US raid which helped kill Osama bin Laden, without knowledge of the military establishment of the country. However, Mr Asif’s outburst is giving Mr Haqqani a bit too much credit. There is a pervasive lobby within the US, which has been working to isolate Pakistan since more than a decade. The fact that we did not even have a foreign minister under our current democratic government, and the fact that our democratic rulers lacked the vision and wherewithal to chart an independent foreign policy, means that the rest of the world does have legitimate grievances concerning Pakistan’s counter-terrorism efforts, and its role in Afghanistan.

Unfortunately, Afghanistan is thrust in the middle of a much greater game, involving regional and world powers jostling for influence. It is thus unfair for the US to just hold one country accountable for Afghanistan’s woes. Beyond the rhetoric of wanting to see peace in Afghanistan, a regional consensus on what victory or defeat in Afghanistan looks like is essential. If the new US administration remains unwilling to realise and accommodate regional concerns of Iran, India, Pakistan, Russia and China, bringing stability to Afghanistan may remain elusive for the foreseeable future.

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Police Oppression Of Aam Abduls In Pakistan !

Rickshaw driver sets himself on fire after 'unjustified' challan
HANG (DUNYA NEWS) – Rickshaw driver Riaz on Thursday set himself on fire after getting an unfair challan from traffic police in Jhang, reported Dunya News.Riaz was first shifted to the District Headquarters Hospital (DHQ) in Jhang, however, due to his critical condition, he was shifted to Faisalabad’s Allied Hospital. According to doctors, Riaz has burnt 70% of his body.He had set himself on fire in front of the traffic police office at Jhang’s Thana Saddar Chowk. Whether the said traffic policeman will be investigated is anybody's guess :mrgreen:
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China : Shehbaz "Clean As A Whistle"

Shehbaz is a Sharif man, says China :D
Acting Chinese ambassador says allegations of corruption against Punjab chief minister in Multan Metro Bus project are false
Lijian says Jiangsu Yabaite Technology Co. Ltd was not operating in Pakistan ‘and had presented fake letters to cheat govt’
Shehbaz Sharif says Chinese govt’s statement ‘magnificent vindication’ of Punjab govt
In the light of the above, all the "earlier suspecting smells of corruption" emanating from the distinguished Pakjabi CM are hereby dismissed :twisted:
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anupmisra wrote:
milano wrote:I really don't understand ISPRs propensity for action shots of jumping, levitation and doing the Riverdance.

Remember this blast from the past?

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Pakis love those leaping mujahids, don't they?

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These are ICONIC paki images, along with raakit mard, and Hasina Atim bum which completes this series. We need a piskoanalysis of bakis as to why they are always jumping. Maybe multiple kicks on their behinds has developed this reflex ?, or is it with all the bums exploding daily they are always on a hair trigger ?
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X Posted from the “Analyzing CPEC” thread.

Kaiser Begali realises that CPEC indeed stands for Conning Pakistan to Enrich China and attempts to wash away the illusion of his fellow citizens in the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan regards CPEC by saying “CPEC is not a game-changer, it’s game over”:
Kaiser Bengali is a senior economist who has served as advisor to the chief minister Balochistan as well as consultant/national coordinator for Benazir Income Support Programme (BISP), Government of Pakistan. Besides, he has headed research institutions including Social Policy and Development Centre (SPDC), Karachi, and Sustainable Development Policy Institute (SDPI), Islamabad. He has done his Masters in Economics from Boston University, USA, and has a PhD from Karachi University. He has vast experience in the fields of teaching, research, publications and finance.

Here he talks to The News on Sunday (TNS) about the country’s economic policies, the priorities of those managing the economy, the economic challenges faced at local and international levels, the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) and its relationship with Gwadar, development of the social sector, our falling exports and foreign reserves and other related topics. Excerpts of the interview follow: …………………………..

TNS: A lot of hopes are pinned on CPEC. Do you think it can really be the game-changer?

KB: I do not think Pakistan will gain a lot from the CPEC initiative which is still shrouded in mystery. There are no details available and the government is not ready to answer any questions. Instead of a game-changer; CPEC may signify a game over. I see the Corridor creating threats for local businesses and fear that it won’t be a win-win situation for both countries.

For example, since Chinese companies are tax-exempt they will bring everything from China and hence they will have no reliance on Pakistani businesses to fulfil their demands. This has shattered the dreams of many local companies that planned to expand their production facilities in anticipation of receiving orders from these Chinese companies. The association of cable operators in Pakistan is one such entity that was expecting a big boost in its sale volumes, but now they are struggling to sustain their existing sale figures.

The Chinese companies play smart and get excellent returns on their investments. It has proven difficult to extract much from them. China has a 10-year control of the Saindak Copper and Gold Project and gets gold as a by-product of the mining. Also, China does not share how much ore it is taking from Pakistan or how much copper it is extracting or what is the quality of gold obtained as a by-product. And nobody can ask them these questions.

They will definitely watch their interest this time also, so it becomes the duty of the government to secure the country’s interests. I raised this issue and presented 12 questions on CPEC to the government but it has not provided any answer except one “yes” to the question about whether any feasibility has been conducted on CPEC. However, they have no documents or figures to support this claim. Furthermore, there is no document on how the toll money, if at all, will be shared between the provinces through which the CPEC routes passes.

And one more thing; people believe all the money is coming from China. This is not so. Pakistan is spending a lot from of its own resources without calculating what it stands to gain or lose. All the CPEC roads are being built by Pakistan. Besides, the cost of providing security to the CPEC-related Chinese workforce and infrastructure falls on us. There are reports that NEPRA has allowed transferring this security cost to the citizens of Pakistan. This will be done by adding it to our electricity bills just like the PTV license fee that they have to pay.

Those celebrating it must know that the above USD 50 billion loans and Foreign Direct Investments (FDI) will ultimately impact the country when there will be an outflow of loan payments and profit remittances to Chinese companies. This will put immense pressure on foreign reserves which are already dwindling. Unfortunately, Pakistan has done no planning on how funds and revenues will be generated for these payments.

Another fear is that the trade imbalance with China will further widen. The Free Trade Agreement (FTA) between Pakistan and China has already resulted in trade imbalances with Pakistani exports being far less than its imports from China. This is about formal trade; the flooding of Pakistani markets with Chinese products is in addition to it. You will be surprised to know that many Pakistani manufacturers have stopped production at their units. Instead, they import products from China and supply them to the market in Pakistani packaging. Buyers think the product is manufactured in Pakistan which is not the case.

The environmental cost of CPEC will also be big. One reason is that no EIAs have been done to offset this. Several coal-powered projects based on imported raw material have been launched. This dependence on imported fuel will increase pressure on rupee. The effective rate of US dollar is already Rs120 but it has been kept between Rs104 and Rs106 artificially. Just imagine what will be the situation when Pakistan will have to honour the payback commitments.
On Gwadar the usual Pakiness surfaces and Urban Legend of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan of sea sick Indiian Navy sailors rears its head :
TNS: How much does Pakistan stand to gain from the development of Gwadar?

KB: I have said it earlier and will say it again that Gwadar cannot become Dubai. It is a seaport built for the purpose of re-exporting Chinese products brought into Pakistan via a land route. I think it is not possible to establish industrial zones and a mega city in Gwadar because there is no water available to support this development.

If we recall, Gwadar came into the spotlight after the Kargil war because a need was felt to have a port for naval purposes. India tried to blockade the port at Karachi and sent ships but this plan failed. As the sea is rough in the summer, the crew got sea-sick and returned. The Karachi-Gwadar Road (Coastal Highway) was also constructed during that time, mainly for defence reasons. Till then it had been completely neglected and its economic potential had not come under discussion. I am not against building infrastructure for security reasons; my point is that we must acknowledge it was for defence reasons and not to exploit its economic potential.

Can one believe it is for the first time that Gwadar and Quetta have been connected via a direct road?

The issue is that one tanker of drinking water brought from as far as Mirani Dam (150 kilometres away from Gwadar) costs around Rs25,000. You will be amazed to hear that water theft from houses in Gwadar is quite common. What happens is that thieves enter houses and walk away with household containers carrying drinking water. They won’t steal motorcycles or other belongings, it’s water that they want.

The government does talk about the option of setting up a desalination plant but I do not think it is workable because of its huge fixed and operational costs. It is estimated that it will cost Rs750 million a year to run such a plant. China is apparently not ready to give funds, so Pakistan will have to cover the cost. I do not think Pakistan will be able to take this responsibility because its share of revenues from Gwadar Port is only 9 per cent while China has 91 per cent of the share.
The News On Sunday:

“CPEC is not a game-changer, it’s game over”
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CPEC has been the second biggest fraud played on the people who live in this area that is called Pakistan today. The first was by Jinnah & Co.
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CPEC is a tree that will keep giving till the people don't take matters into their own hand and drive out the current baki elites including the military.
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SSridhar wrote:CPEC has been the second biggest fraud played on the people who live in this area that is called Pakistan today. The first was by Jinnah & Co.
I think the biggest fraud played (and continues to play) on the people that live in this area was (is) islam. D'jinnah and co. merely "banked" on it.
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From the article above:
But my point is that for a country of 200 million, it is not a good choice to have two-thirds of it unskilled.
Ergo, 65 Million pakis are skilled! Skilled in what? Herr Kaiser rightly doubts all feel-good sialkoti statistics but pulls this wild one out of his aged musharraf.
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arun wrote:X Posted from the “Analyzing CPEC” thread.
Kaiser Begali realises that CPEC indeed stands for Conning Pakistan to Enrich China and attempts to wash away the illusion of his fellow citizens in the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan regards CPEC by saying “CPEC is not a game-changer, it’s game over”:
X Posted on the Analyzing CPEC Thread
arun Ji :

Here is an Article by Dr. Kaiser Bengali - Dated February 26, 2016

‘CPEC is the real game-changer’
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Peregrine wrote:Here is an Article by Dr. Kaiser Bengali - Dated February 26, 2016

‘CPEC is the real game-changer’
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Great find! So, in a year and half Herr Kaiser does an about turn. Perhaps the "check in the mail" never arrived?
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Ah! Happier times.

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Oh yes, happier times and Ayub even presented a horse to the First Lady, which was the one that trailed Kennedy's cortege within a year.
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Peregrine ji, brilliant.
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Pakistan will be defended, announces China

BEIJING: China on Thursday sent out a signal that it would defend Pakistan and would object to any discussion about Pakistan’s role in sheltering terrorists during the upcoming BRICS summit, which would be attended by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, foreign media reported.But, but the scourge of Cross Border Terrorism can ALWAYS BE DICUSSED OFC IN GENERAL!

China is worried Modi may raise the issue at the meeting because he did so at the Goa summit of BRICS last year while describing Pakistan as the “mother-ship of terrorism”.

“We also noticed that India, when it comes to Pakistan’s counter-terrorism, has some concerns. I don’t think this is an appropriate topic to be discussed at BRICS summit,” Hua Chunying, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson, said at a briefing. She also indicated that raising the topic might affect the success of the summit because Chinese leaders may be forced to defend its close ally, Pakistan.

“The world is paying great attention to the BRICS summit. I hope relevant parties can work with China to ensure the success of the summit and make due contributions,” Hua said. She meant the five members of BRICS including India when she mentioned “relevant parties”.

This time the BRICS summit is taking place on September 3 in Xiamen in China, which regards Pakistan as an
“all-weather friend”. India is in a stronger position to raise the issue because US President Donald Trump recently accused Pakistan of sheltering terrorists and threatened to withdraw financial aid if Islamabad refused to mend its ways. There are chances Chinese leaders might come to Pakistan’s defence at the summit.

One of the main objectives of BRICS is to enhance cooperation among the five member countries in fighting against terrorism. But it is difficult for India to join hands in any meaningful manner unless Beijing adopts a different attitude on this issue when it comes to the role of Pakistan.

Hua said, “Pakistan is at forefront of counter terror efforts and has made sacrifices for this. The international community should recognise their contributions and sacrifices made by Pakistan.”

She added, “China is willing to work with Pakistan and other countries to enhance our cooperation in counterterrorism. This serves the common interest of all parties.”

China routinely refers to “sacrifices” made by Pakistan in battling terrorism.

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It's goat sacrifice time in al bakistan and how better to celebrate this seasonal migration of the momeens to the hinterlands than this ever green moment in bakistan's broadcasting history. It never fails to bring a fleeting smile to our lonely boring lives.

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Indian actor Nawazuddin Siddiqui's take on the same Chand Nawab news report. Hindoostani jasoos ko pakda hai!

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Chand nawab on bilack feeriday.

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LOL
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And this one :mrgreen:
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Fornicating Asst.Commissioner Caught In The Act :shock:

‘Sex in car’: Police action saves AC Gojra from mob beating after caught ‘making out’ with a local girl
FAISALABAD – A top bureaucrat in Punjab’s Gojra tehsil faced police arrest after he was found getting intimate with a girl inside his car, moments before receiving ‘public justice’.
Syed Tanveer Murtaza, an assistant commissioner formerly stationed in Gojra City of Toba Tek Singh district, was found in ‘a compromising position’ with a girl inside his car parked at an abandoned house in Hussaina Colony, adjacent to Pansara Road Bypass.
Gojra city police SHO Rana Abdul Ghafoor told the media that they received a tip-off that a man was found kissing a young girl (A) in a car bearing registration No 5199 LEB (Toyota GLI).“On this information, they (the patrol officer) immediately rushed towards the scene and found the man in compromising position with a girl. It is better that a "special section" be established- similar to the Religious Police in Saudia - that deals exclusively in "checking the morals of the Aam Abduls" deviating from the straight path of Islam !
A number of villagers had encircled the house suspecting some foul play hours after they found a car parked inside. Soon as they managed to open the car, the villagers forced both of them to come out. Some even thrashed the ex-AC while in the meantime a police party reached the spot and arrested the accused.
Both the accused were formally challaned as they were found guilty of the offence as envisages under Section 294 PPC and were presented before a magistrate.The court agreed with the police plea and granted remand, however, subsequently, ordered them to be released on bail as the offence was bailable. Hope that the magistrate now does not become a target of "public justice" :mrgreen:
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