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saip wrote:91% Percent of GAWDER income goes to CHINA!!!

But who is getting the other 9%? The Army?

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Playing with jehadists and extremists is a double edged sword. India learnt its lessons with LTTE and Bhindranwale. Even after lal masjid and TTP, Pakistan isn't learning its lessons. It should be made to pay a heavy price.
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COAS asks PM Abbasi to tackle Islamabad protest 'peacefully' - DAWN

IOW, the PA refuses to obey the Prime Minister's orders.
Chief of Army Staff Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa advised Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi on Saturday to "handle the Islamabad dharna peacefully" . . . Director General (DG) Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor tweeted that the army chief telephoned the prime minister and suggested the clearance operation in Islamabad be handled peacefully, "avoiding violence from both sides as it is not in national interest and cohesion." . . . The DG ISPR said that the civil and military leaderships were on the same page when it came to the country’s security, and that the army was duty-bound to carry out the government’s instructions. . . . The IHC then warned the interior minster of contempt of court for not taking action against the protesters. A final deadline for dispersal for Saturday 7am was handed to the protesters, but passed unheeded after which security forces launched an operation to clear the area .
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saip wrote:91% Percent of GWADAR income goes to CHINA!!!
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From the link,
Senator Kal­soom Parveen of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) pointed out that the agreement had not been signed on the basis of equality as had been done with India.
So, which one is she referring to? IWT? Simla Agreement?
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SSridhar wrote:
saip wrote:91% Percent of GWADAR income goes to CHINA!!!
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From the link,
Senator Kal­soom Parveen of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) pointed out that the agreement had not been signed on the basis of equality as had been done with India.
So, which one is she referring to? IWT? Simla Agreement?
Agreements like the IWT and shimla are pipe dreams that came true for the pakis. We paid the price in terms of walking away, virtually empty handed, after the agreements were done.
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SSridhar wrote:So, which one is she referring to? IWT? Simla Agreement?
Possibly a BOT deal between India and China?
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This is new. After asking the army to step in, which the army refused, the paki goberment has now asked the pakjabi rangers to do the same. Isn't this a strong message to the army?

Govt calls in Punjab Rangers to 'handle' Islamabad protesters
The federal government on Sunday evening called in Punjab Rangers to the aid of civilian law-enforcement agencies and tasked them with handling the agitated law and order situation in Islamabad and clearing the sit-ins held in Faizabad and adjoining areas
Around 1,000 Rangers personnel, who were deployed in Islamabad yesterday, have been repositioned to the frontlines of the security operation.
There had been no official confirmation of the development.
The meeting was held at Prime Minister House to discuss the unstable law and order situation in the capital in the aftermath of a botched operation to disperse protesters at the Faizabad Interchange on Saturday.
Islamabad police and FC personnel, who were yesterday on the frontlines, have been relegated to back positions(or in other words, asked to retreat in a now familiar paki move called "Advance to the Rear")
https://www.dawn.com/news/1372988/govt- ... protesters
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Rangers are technically under the gov but don't they take orders from COAS?
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In above pictures the protesters are wearing helmets!! talk about preparedness :lol:
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abhijitm wrote:Rangers are technically under the gov but don't they take orders from COAS?
Rangers take orders from COAS. They wont move an inch without Pindi's approval.
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Its an interesting situation in Pakiland where the government wants a coup to happen and Army want to speed up the next elections.

Government first gave the new Jehadis (supported by Army to reduce PMLNs hardcore Jehadi base) fodder to come to street, then gave them a fair passage all the way to Islamabad, acted passively to embolden them and then did a clumsy operation to see that they need Army support. Ploy was to make it look unmanageable so that Army need to be called in and comes face to face with the Jehadis.
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Raheel In Riyadh: Pakistan has turned the tide and has had defeated the menace,( of extremism) ” :roll: ( Typical Pakjabi Boast :mrgreen: )

Saudi-led coalition to assist member countries in counter-terrorism operations: Gen Raheel
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Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman on Sunday opened the first high-level meeting of a kingdom-led coalition of Muslim nations against terrorism in Riyadh.The inaugural meeting of the Islamic Military Counter Terrorism Coalition (IMCTC) Ministers of Defence Council is being held under the theme of ‘Allied Against Terrorism’.
“A number of our member countries are under tremendous pressure while fighting well established terrorist organisations due to capacity shortages of their armed forces and law enforcement agencies," said Pakistan’s former army chief and the coalition’s military commander, Gen Raheel Sharif, ( who has the additional task to bring MBS to the Saudi throne !) at the event.
"The IMCTC will act as a platform to assist member countries in their counterterrorism operations through intelligence sharing and capacity building." The alliance aims to “mobilise and coordinate the use of resources, facilitate the exchange of information and help member countries build their own counter-terrorism capacity,” :(( Sharif said. ( Raheel - the general for hire - has thrown caution to the wind and has now allied himself 100% with the Saudi Sunnis in eliminating the "Shia threat " under the guise of "fighting terrorism".)
The former army chief said that IMCTC would support its partners mainly through intelligence sharing and capacity building. Does that include imprisoning senior Saudi Princes in 5 star hotels and doing the dirty work for MBS :mrgreen:
Sharif said that Muslim world was the biggest sufferer of the menace of terrorism and during last six years alone, more than 70% of all deaths attributed to terrorism had occurred in Muslim countries. Neglected to mention that the "parties inflicting suffering" on the Muslim world are also Muslims !
“Fight against the faceless enemy with extremist ideology is complex and challenging, and requires collaboration. Pakistan has turned the tide and has had defeated the menace,” he added. :roll: Meanwhile back home in Balochistan and KP province the Aam Abduls are up in arms fighting the heavy handed tactics ( which include aerial bombardment and making people "disappear" ) employed by the Paki fauj :D [/quote]
Addressing the defence ministers and other high-ranking officials, the Saudi crown prince ( and Raheel's "employer" ) said...
However, the alliance doesn’t include Iran, Iraq or Syria, while member nation Qatar sent no one to attend the one-day Riyadh gathering amid a diplomatic standoff between Doha and four Arab nations led by the kingdom. The so-called Anti-Terror alliance is nothing less than an Anti - Shia grouping - which has the blessings of the US !
The alliance described as a “41-nation pan-Islamic coalition” was announced in December 2015. Pakistan was :roll: part of the initial list of 34 countries that had agreed to become part of the coalition. Pakistan is shit scared of alienating its significant Shia population, therefore it has now "toned down" its initial enthusiasm for this "project" . Plus it still considers itself- although one one is buying that - "an honest broker" between the two warring sides, as is evident by the shuttle diplomacy to and from Iran by the Ahmedi COAS
Gen Raheel Sharif joined the alliance as its top commander in April this year. According to IMCTC, the former chief "presents the Military Domain, which aims to assist in the coordination, of resourcing and planning of military CT operations, facilitate the secure sharing of information, and encourage military CT capacity and capability building." Core areas that the IMCTC seeks to address have been identified as ideology, communications, counter terrorist financing and military. One Paki reader has "requested" MBS to stop funding the Madrassahs in Pakiland :twisted:
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Pak fauj is suspicious that this event of protestors getting violent is a ploy to pitch the Pak Fauj against the bleddy Civ-lians.
Pak fauj is therefore talking about doing guard doggie duty in special buildings and the like. But are scared to go in front of the violent public.

Also they are afraid that civ-lians might be armed to the teeth, and the faujis might not be able to phyte and soot as well

Therefore this is a 400% Indian RAA saazish.
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The reason why the powers that be are so secretive about Cheena-Pakistan-Exploitation-Corridor, is that there is a strategic angle to it.
The cheenis are building tunnels for them to store mijjiles and bums, Gawadar has been handed over to the Cheenis on lease for 99 years.

Gawadar is a cheeni PLAN, PLA and PLAAF base. Just look at the development on the map.
It is intended to be like Djibouti, which has a large underground bunker.
Need to watch the development of this place closely
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"Third Sex Transgender" Gunned Down !

Transgender woman gunned down in Peshawar Cantt
PESHAWAR – Unidentified men shot and killed a transgender woman in Peshawar’s Cantonment area on Sunday, according to local media reports.
The armed assailants opened fire at the transgender woman in a room in Khyber Supermarket and fled the scene of the crime, the Dawn News reported quoting the police.The victim received three bullet wounds and was shifted to Lady Reading Hospital (LRH) in critical condition. KP province is ruled by Oxford educated Imran Khan's PTI party. Islamic Pakistan had recently "accepted" transgenders as the official third sex, joining UK, Canada and other western countries. Is it possible that the transgender ( AKA "hijras" ) was soliciting "clients/ customers" in the fauji infested Cantonment areas and the "faithfools" were not amused by his / her activities :mrgreen:
“After receiving her, doctors shifted the injured to the Intensive Care Unit (ICU) and provided treatment,” LRH spokesman Asim Khan said, adding that the victim succumbed to her injuries in the ICU.Soon after the firing incident, members of the transgender community reached LRH and demanded the arrest of the killers.Gulberg police said a search operation has been launched to arrest the suspects. According to initial and unconfirmed reports, it was suggested that the killer was a friend of the victim. ( "business" rivalry :roll: )

Further investigation is underway.
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COAS "Politely Refuses" To Help :D

Faizabad crackdown: We can't use force against our own people, says COAS
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ISLAMABAD / LAHORE:
The Pakistan Army will not participate in the crackdown on the Faizabad protesters but it will safeguard the government installations in the federal capital, it was decided at a meeting of the country’s top civilian and military leaders on Sunday.Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi chaired the meeting in Islamabad. It was attended by Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Qamar Javed Bajwa, DG Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Naveed Mukhtar, Punjab Chief Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal. Meanwhile, there is no hesitation in "using force" against the Pashtuns in FATA and the Balochis who want to assert their rights in their own provinces !
However, the army will not participate in the operation against the Tehreek-e-Labbaik protesters. It was urged during the meeting that the police and civilian administration were responsible for dispersing the protesters and they should do so peacefully through talks. A few months ago, the Paki fauj, with much fanfare, unilaterally decided to "mainstream" the Islami parties in the Paki political process in the guise of de radicalization . The army's refusal to act here can be understood in that context :D
General Qamar told the premier that the state should not use force against its own people. “The masses of Pakistan love and trust the army. Their confidence can’t be dented for small benefits,” he added. :((
The chief of army staff (COAS) called up the premier on Saturday to advise him against the use of power over the protestors. In a tweet, DG ISPR Maj-Gen Asif Ghafoor had said that violence would be against national interest and cohesion and quoting the COAS as saying that the issue should be resolved peacefully. The religious group has been camping at the arterial traffic intersection of the federal capital since the start of this month.
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What Islamists ‘Sit-ins’ in Islamabad Say About Pakistan's Militancy Problem
Does Pakistan need a de-radicalization plan for itself?

For the past two weeks, hundreds of right-wing Islamists belonging to various religious parties have been protesting in Islamabad which has disrupted the capital’s life. The protesters have been demanding the resignation of the federal law minister over a recently omitted reference to the Prophet Muhammad in a constitutional bill. While the law minister has apologized by terming the constitutional amendment a “clerical mistake,” the protesters continue to insist that they will carry on the protest unless the minister resigns.

Last week, the Islamabad High Court (IHC) ordered the federal government to ensure that the protesters leave the capital within a day. However, the protesters have not moved an inch, forcing the federal government to request the court for more time to negotiate with hard-line religious leaders that are leading the sit-in. On Monday, the Supreme Court (SC) of Pakistan took a “suo moto” notice of the situation, asking the government to clarify its position on why the latter has failed to evacuate the capital which remains paralyzed.

So far, the protesters have ignored the government and other institution’s warnings and have vowed to confront the state’s power to protect what they believe is their divine right to guard “the absolute finality of Prophet-hood of Muhammad.”

The government appears to have lost control of the situation with hard-line religious groups challenging the state’s writ by terming the ruling party’s recent controversial constitutional amendment anti-Islamic and blasphemous. The situation in Islamabad points toward an existential challenge for Pakistan which can have catastrophic results for the country if the state’s policy of giving in to hard-line Islamists inflaming religious passions is not dealt with.

The problem with Islamabad’s sit-in is that it resonates with millions of people across the country that also believes in implementing one particular version of Islam on others with force and violence. The curriculum in public schools still continues to promote hatred against minority Muslim and non-Muslim groups. Students are taught to hate each other because they share different faiths. Christian, Hindus, and Ahmadis and other minority Muslim and non-Muslim communities are presented as lesser humans and a threat to the state’s so-called Islamic identity.

For instance, this is what one state-approved book teaches young minds about the necessary prerequisites for being a true Muslim: “A person who does believe in oneness of Allah, the absolute finality of Prophet-hood of Muhammad (PBUH), the Day of Judgment, and Books of Allah, is a Muslim.” Moreover, the book also states that “religious seminaries [are to be] patronized and annual financial assistance should be given to them.” “The Muslims were weakened during the British empire. On the other hand, the Hindus, Sikhs and Christians enjoyed complete cultural and social liberties. To be a Muslim was a crime at that time,” notes the Punjab Textbook Board’s Pakistan history book.

By defining parameters of who can and cannot be a true Muslim, the state is only sanctioning and legitimizing violence against religious groups that may share different faiths. Such narratives in curriculum and society only strengthen hard-line religious groups’ narratives of implementing one or some sects of Islam with force even if that means taking on the state itself.

The country’s National Action Plan (NAP) against terrorism which was devised three years ago to deal with such challenges comprehensively has failed to deal with core issues that are radicalizing and militarizing Pakistan’s society. While the NAP says that religious seminaries will be regulated with complete checks on their funding resources, the state’s curriculum states that religious seminaries should be patronized and offered funding.

Arguably, the protesters in Islamabad are a product of this curriculum. They are refusing to obey the state’s orders because the social, cultural, political and ideological environment created by the state over the last three decades only allows space for a radicalized society. They are citing divine rights to wage a holy struggle against some of the groups that do not share their religious views because that’s what the state has been taught them.

While NAP and other counterterrorism plans discuss de-radicalization of militant groups, the state is not focused on de-radicalizing itself by rejecting ideas, narratives and traditions which are engendering the radicalization of society in the first place. What is further alarming is that there appears to be no effort to contain the narratives of fundamentalist forces in Pakistan. In fact, the state has reached a point where such radical groups reflect the influence of a state within a state.

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"Greece Pakis" Again Under Siege !

Pakistani community in Greece celebrating Eid Milad Un Nabi, attacked in Athens
ATHENS – Riot police in Athens had to intervene in clashes between Greek soccer club fans heading for a game and the Pakistani community celebrating a religious holiday marking the Prophet Mohammed’s birthday. Tear gas and stun grenades have been deployed. Brief but ferocious clashes happened in the center of the Greek capital on Sunday, AP reported. While there have been no serious injuries or arrests, law enforcement had to use tough anti-riot methods to stop the violence. A video from the scene shows utter mayhem in the street as hooligans trampled on Islamic flags, while Pakistanis try to defend themselves, with some fighting back. This is not the first time that the "Aam Abduls of Greece" have vented their anger against the "poor Pakis" , who are making Greece a pit stop on their illegal way to greener pastures :twisted:
Members of the local Pakistani community were celebrating the birth of the Prophet Mohammed with a procession in one of the squares in downtown Athens. Showing "Pakistaniyat" thinking as if they were in Pakiland !
At the same time, supporters of the Thessaloniki PAOK soccer club were in the area, heading for a league game. A "little diversion" at the expense of the Pakis does not hurt anybody :mrgreen:
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Imran Khan Currying Favour With Saudia, According To This Friday Times Report Of Hajam Sethi :D

Winning friends

Just as The Man of Steel’s main backers’ fortunes in the Land of Sand have taken a turn for the worse, The Great Khan has been touring the Middle East trying to win friends and influence people. We hear his recent trip to an Emirate was successful and he was able to garner support and win pledges for funds. Sources say he is now planning a trip to the Land of Sand, previously The Man’s exclusive preserve, to break bread with SMB, otherwise known as “The Prince” a la Machiavelli.

PS: A "few good words" in the ears of MBS by Raheel would surely help :mrgreen:
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Muzzling ( Loud Mouth ) Mush :twisted:

Govt delaying renewal of Musharraf’s diplomatic passport
ISLAMABAD: Former military ruler Gen Pervez Musharraf may have to face a difficult situation after March, because by then his diplomatic passport will have expired and the government seems to be in no mood to renew it anytime soon. The former president has been declared a ‘proclaimed offender’ and ‘absconder’ by various courts in at least four high-profile cases, including the treason case, the Benazir Bhutto murder case, Lal Masjid operation case and the matter of judges’ detention.
Sources told Dawn that the last diplomatic passport (number AJ0848364) issued to Mr Musharraf from Dubai in 2013 would expire on March 16, 2018.
Most countries allow entry only to those who hold passports valid for more than six months from the date of entry, even if they have a valid visa. IMO, if his passport is not renewed, it could be considered a "blessing in disguise". He would be forced to return to his "beloved" Pakistan and his recent (pipe) dream of "leading the 23 party grand alliance " will come to fruition (from jail !)
Mr Musharraf, who mostly resides in Dubai, was allowed to travel to the United Kingdom last week on the condition he produced a return ticket, after the Pakistan consulate told him that it was not possible that his passport would be renewed before his trip to the UK, and that processing his request would require prior approval from Islamabad. So, this mai-ka-laal babu in Dubai had the audacity to deny the Ex Prez of Pakiland his rightful due :mrgreen:
If the government does not renew his passport, the former president may face difficulties when he returns to Dubai from the UK on Nov 29. If the renewal takes any longer, he may not be able to undertake any foreign travel, even if he does have a valid visa for his destination. So, like Altaf Bhai in London (who he has a valid Bartania Passport), Mush will be "boxed " in Dubai . Wonder, if this will stop him from shutting his loud mouth !
Dr Mohammad Amjad, the secretary general of Mr Musharraf’s All-Pakistan Muslim League (APML) who arrived here from Dubai last week, confirmed to Dawn that his party chief faced difficulties in embarking on his visit to the UK because of the below six-month validity of his passport. He said the Pakistan consulate not only refused to entertain the application for the renewal of Mr Musharraf’s passport, but also declined to affix a validity stamp on it. Ganja's last revenge :roll:
Sources say the Pakistan consulate in Dubai has sent a communiqué to the Foreign Office (FO), seeking approval for the renewal of Mr Musharraf’s passport. The FO, they added, had sought the opinion of the Ministry of Interior on the matter. “It is the domain of the interior ministry,” said FO spokesperson Mohammad Faisal said when contacted. He confirmed that the FO had received a reference from the consulate in Dubai and had sought the opinion of the interior ministry on the matter.
An official of the Directorate General of Passports and Immigration told Dawn that all former presidents had a lifetime entitlement to a diplomatic passport for free. Even those, who have "fled abroad" on the pretext of medical treatment :roll:
Since it is a high-profile political case, the source said the government might drag the issue to pester Musharraf. Under the rules, former presidents, prime ministers, Senate chairmen, speakers of the National Assembly, chief justices, governors, chief ministers, ministers and ministers of state, special assistants to the prime minster and attorney generals were entitled to hold diplomatic passports. Spouses and dependent children of former presidents, prime ministers, Senate chairmen, NA speakers were also entitled to hold diplomatic passports, he added. While in most countries , the Prized Diplomatic Passport is issued with "utmost care", this is not so, in Islamic Pakistan , where it is used as a "political/ bargaining tool" by the party in power to curry favour with certain individuals and is doled out indiscriminately . No less than the "famous" Maulana Diesel was issued the Blue Passport by Ganja on his recent travels to Londonistan for the purpose of playing the role of a "honest broker" between Ganja and Dus Percenti :mrgreen:
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Human Rights Activist's Plea To The (Toothless !) President Of Pakistan

Mercy plea to the president
By I.A. Rehman
Mohtaram Sadar,
I am taking the liberty of seeking Your Excellency’s intervention to secure an end to the plight of six individuals. One of them is a woman journalist and defender of human rights, another is a young teacher from across the border, and the other four are young students who were unfortunately born into Baloch families.
Zeenat Shahzadi, a young and poor journalist without any clout, had dreams of helping her fellow human beings. She was abducted from outside her house in Lahore on July 11, 2015, and her name was added to the list of victims of enforced disappearance. Since I am not sure that the press clippings presented for your perusal include reports of mundane affairs such as disappearances, I believe it is necessary to tell this young woman’s tale of woe in some detail.
When Zeenat Shahzadi learnt that an Indian named Hamid Ansari was in trouble for trying to help a Pakistani girl, she thought this was a case that could help her establish herself as a bold human rights defender and a skilful journalist. She persuaded Hamid Ansari’s mother to grant her authority/ permission to pursue the matter before the Peshawar High Court. She also met the Indian high commissioner at a public meeting, probably to seek his help in the case. All this was not considered an infringement of any law as no legal action was taken against her. Her disappearance was referred to the Commission of Inquiry into Enforced Disappearances then headed by retired Supreme Court justice Javed Iqbal. She should have known that taking up the cause of an "enemy national" is a big no no in Pakiland !
The commission held a number of meetings in Lahore and heard the reports of the police and a joint investigation team including representatives of the intelligence services but they could not trace Shahzadi. Her family was devastated. Driven to despair her younger brother chose to end his life. that does not sway "Deep State" :twisted:
Then one fine morning, a few weeks ago, Mr Javed Iqbal personally rang up the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan and announced that Shahzadi had been reunited with her family. The community of human rights activists across the globe was so overjoyed that it chose not to discuss the version that Shahzadi had been recovered from the clutches of some non-state actors on the border in Balochistan. :roll:
Shahzadi’s return was confirmed by her mother but telephonic access to Shahzadi was not possible. Sometime later the mother said that they were in an Islamabad hospital. That was the last time the mother answered a call.
Excellency, the entire human rights community, in Pakistan and abroad, is concerned at Zeenat Shahzadi’s disappearance for the second time. It should be possible for you to oblige the persons who are keeping Shahzadi out of public view to bring her into the open. It may not be impossible for them to find their way to the nearest press club or to a court to get her statement recorded. The Supreme Court has been asking for the recording of victims’ statements after they have been recovered. Toothless Mamnoon can hardly do anything !
The second person on my list is Hamid Ansari. He was working as an assistant professor at an Indian management institute. Through Facebook he became friendly with a girl belonging to Kohat and when she feared the denial of her rights, he decided to come to her rescue. He could not get a Pakistan visa but was able to fly to Afghanistan and enter Pakistan, though without valid papers. He was arrested from a hotel in Kohat on Nov 14, 2012. Thus, for five years he has been in the custody of the Pakistani authorities. Charged with espionage and not with illegal entry into Pakistan, he was sentenced to three years’ imprisonment by a military court. There is no doubt that Hamid committed an offence but his motives, love or a desire to help a woman in distress, are strong mitigating circumstances. He has already suffered enough for his naiveté. Love by internet - and that too with a Pathani damsel is another big NO NO in Islamic Pakiland
In a letter to the writer, Hamid’s mother has requested her appeal for mercy to be forwarded to the competent authority. Hence, this letter. Her prayer is that the period of Hamid’s detention (three years) before conviction may be counted as sentence served, that he may he be released on humanitarian grounds, and that he may be allowed to talk to his family on the phone. Mohtaram Sadar, your government has shown clemency to foreign nationals who have committed far graver offences than Hamid Ansari. The country’s credit for listening to humanitarian calls will go up and the chances of relief for Pakistani citizens in Indian prisons might improve if you could remit the remaining period of Hamid’s prison term. Now that Ganja is out of power, his days as President are also probably numbered. He is passing time as a "lame duck Prez" :mrgreen:
Finally, I solicit your intervention in the case of the alleged disappearance after arrest of four Baloch student activists — Sanaullah, Hassam, Naseer and Rafeeq. I know the official reply would be yeh tau roz hota rehta hai (this keeps happening every day). But jo roz hota hai woh kisi na kisi din bund karna hoga (whatever happens every day has to be stopped someday) IMO, this will never stop.! If these students have committed an offence, they may be tried in an open court. Their right to meet the family and their counsel and to a fair trial, with normal guarantees of respect for due process, cannot be compromised. Kindly tell the authorities concerned that highhandedness in dealing with the youth will only accelerate the Baloch people’s alienation from the state. The Baloch can be won over only by showing due respect to them and their rights.
I am sorry for not approaching Your Excellency through the prescribed channels, but I have reason to believe that the president of the Islamic Republic cannot ignore a call for mercy regardless of the route it takes.
Yours faithfully
I. A. Rehman, a human rights activist
Hope that the President Of The Islamic Republic Of Pakistan-( who is a graduate of one of the most prestigious business schools of Pakiland !) has the courtesy to reply to Mr. I.A. Rehman !
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Is the drama in Islamabad another manifestation of "Islamic Brotherhood vs Military" like the Egyptian spring? What happened there was that the military went back to the barracks knowing fully well that the Islamic brotherhood lacked the experience wisdom and unity to maintain the government, and that eventually the military would be holding all the cards. Now with all political parties discredited and only a coalition of mullahs willing to take to the street (other than the joker Imran Khan, who will only be too happy to form an alliance with the mullahs) we have an Islamic brotherhood in the making. The military will not directly take power since it will violate Kerry-Lugar dollar supplies; however in the process of formation of this duality, all other "legitimate" political parties will be booted out. It may be curtains for dus-percenti, sher-e-raiwind, the India loving big fellow and all other sundries.
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I searched but did not find this so posting here. I have never seen Zahid Hamid (PBUH) in this andaaz. :rotfl:

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What will Bak Fauj do now hain ji?
The PMLN government was trying to dilute the oath so that Ahmedis could take that oath without any problems, and that oath would be applicable to everyone.
So the Mullahs over-react as usual...
The Fauj is scared, and doesn't want to come face to face with them, and wants the bleedy Civ-lians to step forward, so that they can be blamed for everything, while the fauj looks good.

Now, other than Dimran are now literally in exile. So other than the Mullah Party and PTI, there is no political force left. Mushy's political alliance is not taking off, as the PMLN GoP, is undercutting him.

Time for the ISI to pull another Genie out of the Hat - a mullah supported, "technocrat" govt, stuffed with Retard Faujis, and a few obedient civ-lians.
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Religious party chief announces to end sit-in after law minister’s resignation

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Head of the Tehreek-i-Labaik Yah Rasool Allah Pakistan (TLYRAP) religious group Khadim Hussain Rizvi (C) announces the end of sit-in protest on a blocked flyover bridge during a press conference in Islamabad on November 27, 2017. -AFP

ISLAMABAD: The Islamist leader whose group clashed violently with Pakistani security forces and paralysed Islamabad for weeks called off the sit-in protest Monday after the law minister resigned, meeting its key demand.

"On the assurance of the Chief of Army Staff, we are calling off the sit-in," Khadim Hussain Rizvi told a crowd of around 2,500 demonstrators from the Tehreek-i-Labaik Ya Rasool Allah Pakistan (TLYRA), who have occupied a main highway to the capital since November 6.

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Zafar committee vaguely points the finger at two ministers

His statement came after state media reported that law minister Zahid Hamid had resigned and the prime minister has accepted his resignation.

The decision to capitulate to the protesters´ demands is a major embarrassment for the embattled ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) as it eyes elections in 2018, analysts said, and underscores the influence of religious groups in the nuclear-armed nation.

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Image of agreement reached with the protesters.

The previously obscure religious party has been calling for weeks for Hamid´s ousting over a hastily-abandoned amendment to the oath which election candidates must swear.

Monday´s announcement came after a botched operation on Saturday to disperse the demonstrators sparked violence in Islamabad that left at least seven people dead and hundreds wounded. It fuelled the spread of the protests to major cities across the country including Karachi and Lahore.

Later, the government sought military deployment to tackle the protesters but the army chief in a meeting with the prime minister suggested the leadership to handle the situation peacefully. Then, the Punjab Rangers was tasked to clear the city from protesters.

In a late night development, an agreement was reached with TLY leaders to end the sit-in.

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IHC grills Ahsan Iqbal on Faizabad dharna agreement


The sit-in has enraged commuters in Islamabad and neighbouring Rawalpindi with hours-long traffic snarls, caused the death of at least one child whose ambulance could not reach hospital in time, and infuriated the judiciary.

Hamid´s ousting is the latest in a series of heavy blows to the ruling party.

In July Nawaz Sharif was deposed as prime minister by the courts over graft allegations, while finance minister Ishaq Dar -- also accused of corruption -- has taken indefinite medical leave.

"Politically, this is a major embarrassment for the PML-N," analyst Hasan Askari told AFP, warning that it would undermine their credibility and predicting more defections.

He also warned it had strengthened the position of hardline Islamic groups like TLY, whose campaigning in the upcoming elections could further weaken the PML-N. The party has previously benefited from the right-wing religious vote.

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Pakistan’s military under fire for brokering deal between protesters and government - Mubashir Zaidi, The Hindu
Criticising Pakistan’s powerful military, Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui of Islamabad High Court said armed forces cannot play any role in politics.

Pakistan's powerful military had brokered a deal between the government and religious protesters who were blocking the main entrance of the Capital for almost three week. The country’s Law Minister Zahid Hamid resigned following the deal.

Justice Siddiqui last week ordered the authorities to remove the protesters and end people’s miseries.

“Under which law the Army played the role of mediator? How can the military meddle in politics? I know after saying this there is no guarantee if I go missing or killed,” Justice Shaukat Siddiqui said in his remarks. { AoA }


The government launched an operation on Saturday only to backfire. As the protests spread across the country, news channels and social media, including Twitter and Facebook were blocked.

To add to the misery, the military refused the government’s request for deployment of troops to end the protest asking both the government and protesters to resolve the issue peacefully.

On Sunday, Army Chief General Qamnar Bajwa met Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi. In the wee hours of Monday, an agreement was signed under which the protesters agreed to end the blockade after Law Minister Zahid Hamid resigned.
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Peregrine wrote:On the assurance of the Chief of Army Staff, we are calling off the sit-in
With honest brokers like the TSPA, Malsi wins (again)!
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SSridhar wrote:The government launched an operation on Saturday only to backfire...the military refused the government’s request for deployment of troops to end the protest asking both the government and protesters to resolve the issue peacefully
The government's writ was programmed for failure. In a crisis, it was meant to be that the TSPA would be seen as the only real interlocutors and true peacemakers between the religious right and the government. It is obvious that this clash with the religious parties was a set up, a drama. Next time (if there is a next time), ordinary abduls and ayeshas will be demanding for an army takeover.
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The most pathetic thing is that a Judge of the Islamabad High Court says that the Pakistani Army could abduct him or kill him. Even Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhury, under house arrest, did not make such a statement. Qamar Bajwa is claimed to be a benign COAS !!

The closest I can think of are two instances; a mob of PML-N supporters hounding out Chief Justice Sajid Ali Shah (who asked for the military's protection which was refused) from the Supreme Court from where he fled for his life and then resigned; the second was the admission of COAS Mirza Aslam Beg that he warned the judges not to restore the dissolved assembly in c. 1990.
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SSridhar wrote:The most pathetic thing is that a Judge of the Islamabad High Court says that the Pakistani Army could abduct him or kill him. ...the second was the admission of COAS Mirza Aslam Beg that he warned the judges not to restore the dissolved assembly in c. 1990.
The hon' judge's fears are not unwarranted based on precedence. The day is not far when a sitting PM will fear the same thing (getting abducted by the army).
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More awkward questions are now being asked by the judiciary. Awkward for the government and the army.

Govt asked to satisfy court on 'role of armed forces as an arbitrator' in agreement with protesters
The Islamabad High Court on Monday lashed out at the government as well as the Army for the role assigned to the military "as the mediator" in the agreement to end the sit-in at Islamabad's Faizabad Interchange.
"Who is the Army to adopt a mediator's role?" inquired the judge.
"Where does the law assign this role to a major general?"
"Armed Forces being part of executive of the country cannot travel beyond its mandate bestowed upon it by the organic law of the country.
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The document of the agreement — submitted before the court — bears the signatures of Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal, Interior Secretary Arshad Mirza, Tehreek Labaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY) leader Khadim Hussain Rizvi, two other protest leaders and Maj Gen Faiz Hameed, who facilitated the agreement.
"We are thankful to him [Gen Bajwa] for saving the nation from a big catastrophe," the agreement document concludes, crediting the army chief and his representative team for their "special efforts".
On the matter of the abusive language used by the protesters against the judiciary, the order says that "the Federal government and the arbitrator did not bother to persuade the leadership of TLY to even tender an apology in this regard."
"Iqbal sahab, you have embarrassed the police and the administration," Justice Siddiqui said. "You [the institutions] are destroying the state in your bid to make each other look bad.""What role did the Rangers fulfill?" he asked. "You are supporting the impression that the Army is the cure for all illnesses."
The IHC judge, while declaring his love for the Holy Prophet (PBUH), said that these remarks could cost him his life or add him to the list of missing persons'. :eek:
AoA. HS&D saved by the army (again)! Judiciary be damned. I give the judge one month to either pack up and leave or be qadrified.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1373184/govt- ... protesters
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Uh-oh! More questions.

What forced govt to sign agreement with Faizabad protesters, asks Rabbani
Senate Chairman Raza Rabbani ...asked that "the house wants to know what forced the government to sign an agreement with the protesters" who had staged a sit-in at Faizabad.
Rabbani also expressed disappointment on Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi's visit to Saudi Arabia. "The prime minister leaves (along with Waist Bajwa) for abroad on the very same day [the agreement is finalised]. Is the Riyadh summit more important than what has happened in the country?"(Short answer - YES!)
this House wants to know why there was a need to call the army?(Desperate times, desperate measures)
"This is for the first time that a minister has had to resign because of a sit-in"
https://www.dawn.com/news/1373209/what- ... ks-rabbani
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70% of pakis are inbred in pakhanistan. Jo LaWhore mein ...woh vilayat mein bhi...
(translated from Danish)

More deaths among immigrants
This is the conclusion of a study from the University of Southern Denmark, which shows that Pakistani, Turkish and Somali women face twice as much risk of giving birth to childbirths as Danish women.
Researchers agree that it is first and foremost the higher occurrence of marriages between related so-called cousin cousins ​​- contributing to the increased risk of the death of some immigrant groups.
At the same time, studies indicate that the tendency to marry family members is significantly reduced when the populations in question settle in the West. In Pakistan it is estimated that about 70 percent of all marriages are administered :eek: , in Turkey it is between 25 and 30 percent. By comparison, only 40 percent of Pakistani married couples in Denmark are related. :shock:
http://jyllands-posten.dk/livsstil/fami ... dvandrere/
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Pak Rangers Head Hands Out Cash To Tehreek - Labbaik Members :roll:

DG Punjab Rangers distributes cash among Tehreek Labbaik members
Pakistan Rangers Punjab DG Maj-Gen Azhar Naveed hands out envelopes with a token Rs1000 as bus fare to members of Tehreek-e-Labbaik Ya Rasul Allah who were recently released from detention following the government's agreement with the protesters. "Aren't we also with you?" says Maj-Gen Azhar Naveed when told by a Tehreek-e-Labbaik's member that his party was with the army. Watch the video.
PS: Note the condescending tone of the Maj- Gen in interaction with the Islami Abduls. IMO, part of the plan to mainstream the Islami parties in the upcoming General Election !
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Pakistan "Bails Out" Of Saudi Led Coalition :roll:

Saudi coalition ToRs allow Pakistan to decide its role
The Express Tribune
ISLAMABAD:
Defence ministers of the countries that are part of the Saudi-led Islamic military alliance have finally unveiled the coalition’s broader mandate that envisages joint military operations against terrorism while suggesting a raft of other steps to deal with the menace.But the final declaration issued on Sunday after the ministers meeting in Riyadh suggested that it would be up to the member states to decide the extent of their participation in the coalition, something that would provide enough room to Pakistan to maintain a delicate balance in its ties — both with Saudi Arabia and Iran. IMO, it will be hard for Pakistan to maintain "delicate balance". ( No one is fooled. For all practical purposes, it has hitched its wagon to the Saudi camp - remember the "off shelf nuclear bum" promised to the Saudis !)
Pakistan’s Defence Minister Khurrum Dastagir represented Pakistan at the daylong meeting presided over by Saudi Crown Prince Muhammad bin Suleman.
Pakistan had principally agreed to be part of the coalition but withheld its decision regarding the extent of its role till the ToRs were finalised.While agreeing to be part of the coalition, Pakistan had all along stated that it would not allow its troops to participate in any military action outside the country. Islamabad also insisted that it would not become part of any initiative aimed at any other Islamic country. Pakistan's large Shia majority will be "up in arms" if it perceived that the GOP is openly acting against Iran. !
Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia’s crown prince vowed to “pursue terrorists until they are wiped from the face of the earth” as officials from 40 Muslim countries gathered on Sunday in the first meeting of the counter-terrorism alliance. Typical Arab hyperbole !
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Jobless? #FaizabadDharna


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PS: Travel Expenses will be "handed out" by DG Pakistan Rangers :D
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