shiv wrote:peter wrote:
Please mind your language. Circa 3000 BC is a dating of Mahabharata that is in tune with sanskrit inscriptions of kings of India, the tradition of Kaliyuga starting with the demise of Krishna, and astronomical observations mentioned in the Mahabharata.
I have not mentioned anything about the dating of the Mahabharata other than agreeing with Nilesh Oak and agreeing this dates are credible and in conformity with the papers I have been reading. I am only talking of Vedas, Manusmriti and Harappa. Nothing that you say goes against the dating of the Vedas back to 10,000 years ago. Or dating of Manusmriti between 9000 to 5000 years ago.
What you believe about Mahabharata is what you believe. I happen to agree with Nilesh Oak. If you don't like that it's not my problem.
Here is a list of astronomical references from Mahabharata which occur just before and during the Mahabharata war. Think of these as a list of references which should all match for a date to be accepted.
0 Departure of Krishna to Hastinapur on peace mission on Revathi.
1 Purnima in a few days on the following Kartika nakshatra (three days from 0).
2 Lunar eclipse on Kartika Purnima.
3 Amawasya on Jyestha which is also the solar eclipse.
4 A lunar eclipse 13 days later following the Jyestha amawas.
5 Departure of Balram on Pushya after Jyestha Amawas.
6 Start of the war on Shukla Ekadasi of Mrigasira
7 On the 14 th day of the war late moon rise.
8 On the 14th day of the war moon rose in the east.
9 Last day of the war on Shravan nakshatra and Balram returns.
10 Balram is gone for 42 days.
11 Bhishma Asthami in Magha Shukplapaksh.
12 Thirty six years later Krishna sees a similar sequence
of eclipses as given in 2,3 and 4, above. These are three separate
observations at the time of Vrishni destruction viz a lunar
eclipse followed by a solar eclipse followed by a 13 day apravani
lunar eclipse!
None of these match for Nilesh's date.
Shiv wrote:
Peter wrote:
This can't be believed. Haryana area had massive forests even till the medieval times.
That is quite OK. There is no need for you to believe it. It is your right to believe whatever you wish. Rajasthan where most of the Early Harappan sites are did not have forest.
I need to see proof about Haryana forests in medieval times. What the hell is "medieval" anyway? What you say is not believable. If you cannot provide proof - it is OK - I will continue to dismiss your statements as cooked up on the spur of the moment.
Search for Dhak jungles.