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Pakistaniyat shines all the way through in this next episode of "Only in La la land"

HEC software shows its director’s paper 88pc plagiarised
For those of you who are new to the aberration called pakhanistan, HEC stands for Higher Education Commission. Oh, the irony! But wait! It gets better. Read on....
Fighting plagiarism is one of the major functions of the Higher Education Commission (HEC) but the commission’s own Executive Director has allegedly stole over 80 percent of his co-authored research paper from another publication.
Dr Arshad Ali mentions a co-authored research paper which is over 88 percent plagiarised when tested with the official software of the commission.
the Executive Director...acts as head of HEC Secretariat and also as the Secretary of the Commission’s governing body which makes policies on improving quality of education and fighting plagiarism. :rotfl:
Dr Arshad’s ... paper: “A Taxonomy and Survey of Grid Resource Planning and Reservation Systems for Grid Enabled Analysis Environment”
it appears that Dr Arshad’s work is mainly copied from already published paper titled “Survey and Taxonomy of Grid Resource Management Systems” authored by Chaitanya Kandagatla (A Yindoo !!)
As per HEC policy, if most of the paper (or key results) have been exactly copied from any published work of other people without giving the reference to the original work, a major penalty of dismissal from service could be imposed.
The HEC website defines plagiarist as the “one who steals the thoughts or writings of others and gives them out as his [sic] own”.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/261617 ... lagiarised

Here's the link to the lyin', cheatin' doctor's CV and a valuable excerpt from it:

http://drarshad.seecs.nust.edu.pk/data/ ... 202013.pdf
OBJECTIVE Be productive and useful member of society
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Have shared some thoughts on the Kulbhushan Jadhav's meeting with his family

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As far as my reaction goes, yes I am outraged too.

Outraged, yes.

But surprised? No.

In fact, on the contrary, I would have been (pleasantly) surprised had the Paki security establishment allowed the visit to go in a dignified manner. But that is too much to ask of them. And they didn’t disappoint me either.

Now the question is, where does this insane hostility come from. Of course, they will cry hoarse at ‘Big, Bad India’. I’ll not argue with that since they are welcome to their own point of view.

Over here I’ll just go into why the behaviour towards the two ladies

There was amazing similarity in which the establishment went about conducting the visit, and the media doing its own bit. This is an interesting phenomenon indeed – the way the Paki state brings up its children to adulthood, fed on a potent propaganda right from the word go.

But first let us see how it manifests itself. Here are some public personalities, those that are supposed to be exposed to media and experienced in handling themselves in public.

Example 1: Shahid Afridi.(WSJ Article Afridi: Indians have smaller hearts than Pakistanis)

Quote, ‘If I speak truthfully, they just can’t have the kind of heart a Muslim has or a Pakistani has. I think they don’t have the sort of big hearts, pure hearts, Allah has given us.’
Btw, this is the same Afridi one of whose cousins was dispatched by the BSF in Kashmir in 2003 (LINK)
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And if you think that the ‘Hindu Kutta’ thing is a one off event in a comedy show, you couldn’t be more mistaken! Late JN Dixit, during his tenure in the Indian High Commission in Pakistan was given a live demonstration, that too by a six year old child!

A six year old child.

Let that sink in a bit.

A kid of someone definitely high up in the Paki establishment / society.

A kid not yet old enough to make her own opinions.

A kid with her mind poisoned by her parents

A kid who will no doubt grow up with a blinkered view of Indians as ‘Hindu Baniya’ an ‘Hindu Kutta’
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Kancha Sir,.Many pranaams. Your tweets capture the feelings and facts beautifully. Keep up the good work Sir. Salute.
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Paki Journo Slams Colleagues For Their Harassing Behaviour Toward Jadhav Family :twisted:

Opinion: Why I am disgusted at the unethical way Pakistan treated Jadhav's family
Taha Siddiqui
When the Pakistani government announced that they would allow the family of Kulbushan Jadhav to visit Islamabad and meet with the imprisoned Indian in Pakistan, it seemed like relations between the two neighbors were going to move in a positive direction, and that too after a long time. The history of Indo-Pak relations is ups and downs !
But this hope for progress was short-lived, and if anything, the relations have actually worsened, ever since 25th of December when the wife and mother of Mr. Jadhav met him at the Ministry of Foreign Office’s compound in the Pakistani capital. Shortly after the meeting, the Ministry of External Affairs in Delhi lambasted the treatment Jadhav’s family received during their one-day-long stay in Pakistan. Their counterparts in Islamabad refuted the accusations of ill-treatment, citing security protocol for the treatment the two women were subjected to. Insiders say that the meet-up was not in the hands of the civilian authorities, and the military was in charge of all affairs and therefore concerns for security overshadowed considerations for hospitality.
Adding fuel to this fire is the Line of Control (LoC), which has also heated up, and may very well be linked to the fall-out from the Jadhav meet-up.But as is always the case with the LoC – both sides have a different version of what has happened there and it is almost impossible to independently verify the information disseminated by the militaries on both sides. When in due course, some sort of video, audio is released , Pakistan's hollow claim that nothing happened will be disproved. !
In this latest cross-border incident, Pakistan claims to have lost three of its soldiers while thwarting an Indian-backed non-state actors’ infiltration bid. The government further claimed that the non-state actors were attempting to plant mines on the Pakistani side of the border.On the other hand, India says its soldiers went inside Pakistani territory and killed three enemy soldiers in retaliation to Indian uniformed men killed a day earlier. India does not employ non state actors, Pakistan does !
As a Pakistani journalist working for an Indian news outlet, I have been covering all of the happenings closely, and most of it is repetitive of what I have seen before, thus making it quite predictable. But there is one aspect this time that was and continues to surprise or rather shock me: the behavior of my fellow journalists who waited alongside me at the Pakistan Foreign Office complex for the arrival and exit of Jadhav’s relatives accompanied by an Indian diplomat. Pakistani journalists are "expected" to play their "patriotic part", objectivity and decent behaviour be damned :mrgreen:
Many of these journalists are familiar faces at Foreign Office briefings and have a number of years of experience before being allotted such an important news beat to cover. And yet on Monday, when they were covering the meet-up, they seemed to have lost all sense of ethics when it comes to reporting.
In my profession, it is understandable to ask questions even if the subject is unwilling to answer them, and since the advent of television news, such interactions are often aired to show the audience the reluctance of the subjects being covered and make a point.But that day, the reporters did not ask questions, especially when the family was leaving the venue.They shouted accusations, allegations and slogans at the two women who may have met their loved one for the last time, given that Jadhav is on death row and can be executed any day. IMO, he will not be physically eliminated - at least in the short run . Obviously, he may become a "bargaining chip" for an exchange, even though he is a physical, mental, emotional wreck by now :evil:
Whatever his alleged crimes are, the two women did not deserve such harassment, and that too from supposedly trained professionals.One reporter screamed how Jadhav’s mother felt “being a parent to a terrorist?” Another one asked the wife if she supported her husband who was “a killer of hundreds of Pakistanis?” Another one asked if the women “felt ashamed of his activities?” Pakistan behaviour at it's best :roll: . India must identify such persons an ensure that suc h "Paki journos" are never allowed on an exchange visit, if such a thing happens in the future !
The Pakistani Foreign Office had ensured that the reporters stayed at a distance so there was no up close interaction, and we did stand at a distance from the trio when they were exiting. But I had heard one of the government officials promising some of the journalists “an interaction” with the family once they came out. And not so surprisingly, when they exited the building, the Pakistani government’s vehicle they were to be transported back was nowhere to be seen, giving enough time for the journalists to hurl taunts at the Indian visitors. As the four-wheeler arrived and the guests sat inside it, another journalist went even one step further and started to chant “Pakistan Zindabad” (Long-live Pakistan). This riled up others around too, and soon a large number of them joined in the chorus. Only once the vehicle was out of sight did they stop their self-perceived patriotic demeanor. Straight from the horse's :x mouth
I thought of talking to the foreign office officials about it, since they could perhaps put some sense into the reporters who misbehaved this way. But I stopped myself short of doing so, when I received a message, sent out to journalists on the Pakistani Foreign Office WhatsApp list, thanking everyone for “being responsible media.” :lol: Orwellian double - speak :roll:
did not know what else to do but to report it for my channel. But I also decided to tweet about it – not only vent out the disgust I felt but also tell my neighbors that among the journalists present to cover the meeting between Jadhav and his family, reporters like me were also present who have publicly condemned such conduct by my fellow colleagues. Thankfully, the tweet has gone viral since then. And while the Indians may think that all Pakistani media personnel is unprofessional, I hope to give them a reason to think otherwise.
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New Year "Bad Publicity" For Pakistan :twisted:

Taha Siddiqui Retweeted
New Pakistan
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24h24 hours ago

This went up in New York’s Times Square. Wonder if #Pakistan authorities will heed concerns about human rights or just protest the billboards?
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deejay wrote:Kancha Sir,.Many pranaams. Your tweets capture the feelings and facts beautifully. Keep up the good work Sir. Salute.
Thanks DeejayJi, just had to get it out of my system
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Pakistan is "digging its own grave" as per these two reports . Subramanium Swamy should postpone war preparations- at least for now :twisted:

Taha Siddiqui‏ @TahaSSiddiqui
Apparently the citizens of #Miranshah are being tortured and there is absolute #media blackout of this. Is this post the recent attacks in this region? Are ppl being punished for the failure by army of #Waziristan op?
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Pakistan Army has abducted my second sister Sher Khatoon with her daughter and 2 grandchildren, 3yrs old Beebagr and 6 months old girl Mahen from Peezg Raghai area of district Washuk and shifted them to Mashkay army camp.
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Khawaja Asif rejects Indian criticism on Kulbhushan, family meeting
the meeting between Indian spy Kulbhushan Jadhav and his family had been permitted on humanitarian grounds, in line with Islamic teachings and in the tradition of compassion and grace.
"The success of the meeting was evident by the fact that the mother thanked Pakistan after the visit," he added. :rotfl:
The visitors were treated with respect and dignity. The change of clothes and removal of jewellery and ornaments etc was purely for security reasons
"A metal chip was found in one of the shoes, which is being analysed," he stated.
"The details of the screening will also be shared with media in the next two days," he said.
There you have it. The "mother" had thanked pakhanistan for it's grand and compassionate gesture, also in line with malsic teachings. How can anyone retract that?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1379356/khawa ... ly-meeting
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Pakistan to share Jadhav wife’s shoes details with India :roll:
ISLAMABAD - Pakistan will share the details of Chetankul Jadhav’s shoes’ investigations with India when the report of forensic examination arrives, diplomatic sources said.Pakistani authorities had sent Chetankul Jadhav’s shoes for forensic examination after finding some “metal” object. Internal forensic evidence "manufactured" at Aabpaara HQ :twisted:
She was asked to remove the shoes and use another pair as she went in the Foreign Office to meet her husband Kulbushan Jadhav , – convicted for terrorism in Pakistan .Pakistan claims the shoes had a metal object, which could possibly be a SIM, a camera or a chip, aimed at recording the conversation between the family.
India objected to the seizure of Chetankul Jadhav’s shoes.The Indian Ministry of External Affairs questioned why the shoes of Jadhav’s wife were not returned after the meeting.Islamabad responded that there was “something” in her shoes, which raised suspicion.The shoes were confiscated due to security reasons.
The Foreign Office said all the belongings of the family were returned after the meeting except the shoes.
One official said: “We are waiting for the report. Once it arrives, we will let India know. It takes some time to manufacture evidence :twisted: Their [India’s] complaints are not genuine.” Another official, citing diplomatic contacts, said India was told not to raise hue and cry after Pakistan’s humanitarian gesture.
Before Jadhav’s meeting with his family, Foreign Office spokesperson Dr Mohammad Faisal said hanging Jadhav did not suit Pakistan as his existence would keep the case alive. :roll: He is probably alive in "name only". Walking and talking zombie due to torture and intimidation !
“Even if the army chief rejects his appeal, he can still file another appeal to the president [Mamnoon Hussain]. The army chief can take a decision in minutes or years. Same is the case with the president. His [Jadhav’s] existence is better than his death for us. This will keep the case alive. Or he will vanish like Ajmal Kasab. Kasab was "cannon fodder" ! [who was executed by India for alleged role in 2008 Mumbai attacks],” he said.
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Remember mushy';s claims about "rouge" (that should be "rogue") elements in TSPA? Here's a rejoinder from TSPA.

No rogue elements in Pakistan Army’: DG ISPR on Musharraf’s claims about Benazir’s death
India did not want Pakistan to succeed in the war against terrorism
When asked about former president Pervez Musharraf’s recent statements regarding “rogue elements” being responsible for Benazir’s death, Maj Ghafoor said, “I am the spokesperson for the sitting army chief and the media should ask Musharraf to defend his own statements, as of now I can say that there are no rogue elements within the Pakistan Army at the moment.
How about yesterday?
“It is time that Afghanistan and the US do more for Pakistan.”
No organised infrastructure of any banned organisation is present in Pakistan.
Lets be clear here. So, if there are banned organizations still operating in pakhanistan, they do not have an organized infrastructure.

https://dailytimes.com.pk/169108/no-rog ... irs-death/
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The KJ case has upset me a lot. Sushma swaraj needs to stop inviting pakis for medical treatment. They can get it from their taller than mountain friends.

Shame on Modi and BJP if they continue this nonsense
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any news on fake medical report?
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Terroristan's march towards becoming a FULL THEOCRACY!

Religious group threatens Mansehra barbers with 'consequences' over 'un-Islamic' beards
Pamphlets warning barber shop owners against styling customers' beards in 'un-Islamic' designs have been distributed across Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's Mansehra district, it emerged on Thursday.
The group has warned barbers to refrain from styling beards in styles such as the 'French' or 'L' cuts, arguing that "desecrating beards" in such a way is an un-Islamic practice, local barber shop owners confirmed.
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JohnTitor wrote:The KJ case has upset me a lot. Sushma swaraj needs to stop inviting pakis for medical treatment. They can get it from their taller than mountain friends.

Shame on Modi and BJP if they continue this nonsense
JohnTitor :

Chance would be a Fine Thing! :twisted:

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Ganja Meets Juanja. Something Brewing In The Palace Of Raiwind :roll:

Top security adviser Gen (r) Janjua, Nawaz Sharif hold 5-hour-long meeting in Raiwind
LAHORE – National Security Adviser Lt Gen (r) Nasser Khan Janjua Thursday called on the ousted prime minister and the president of ruling PML-N, Nawaz Sharif, at the Sharif family’s palace in Raiwind.The meeting was also attended by Maryam Nawaz Sharif and her daughter’s father-in-law, Sheikh Munir.They discussed counter-terrorism operations, regional security situation and the ongoing regional peace process.In the meeting, which lasted around five hours, it was emphasised during the meeting that conflicts were never known to resolve matters, with the deposed PM highlighted that he always preferred to talk about peace and love. With birthday celebrations now out of the way, with Shahbaz in Saudia to garner support, NSA Junjua, the emissary of the fauj, must have delivered some sort of "stern warning" to Nawaz, to tone down his rhetoric and get on with life ( " deposed PM ... talk about peace and love :roll: )
Nawaz was briefed about the national security and regional situation by Janjua. The PML-N president stressed for friendly and peaceful relations with the neighbouring states, saying that conflicts with other states would not resolve the regional conflicts and suggested to promote peace as an alternative. After basking in the glory of the Islamic Bomb, Ganja has suddenly morphed into a peacenik :roll:
Janjua told him that all institutions were united for the protection of national security. He affirmed that the international community should appreciate the sacrifices of Pakistan in the war on terror. He also briefed Nawaz on the national security situation and discussed the future prospects in this connection. Was he feted with leftovers from Dec 25 or fresh ghar ka khaana was served to him :mrgreen:
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rsingh wrote:any news on fake medical report?
Not until the pakis first shut down that quality printing press.
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Mush "Demands" Evidence From Bilawal In Response To Junior Zardari's Outburst And Accusation :mrgreen:

'What is the evidence against me?' Musharraf asks Bilawal in response to murder accusation
Former president Pervez Musharraf has once again pointed the finger at PPP co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari as Benazir Bhutto's killer, arguing that the latter had the most to gain from her death.
In a video response to Bilawal Bhutto's chants of "Musharraf qatil" at Benazir's death anniversary commemoration at Gari Khuda Bux on Dec 27, Musharraf took the misogynistic route to begin his argument, saying, "I would like to say to Bilawal, who is raising these slogans like a woman, that he should first become a man." :lol: Proves once again, that Mush can stoop to "gutter language" to gain "cheap publicity" :mrgreen:
"The other thing I would like to say to him is that saying these things like a child will lead to nowhere, what is the evidence for it [your accusation]?" he asked. Evidence was hosed down on orders of the general :D
"The one who benefited the most (from Benazir's death) is their father, sitting in their own house, who terrifies them and forces them into raising these slogans against me," Musharraf said, before beginning another tirade about how, in his view, the evidence in the case all points to Zardari as Benazir's killer."What evidence is there against me? You only keep saying that I did not provide any security (to Benazir), How can you say that? I say that the government provided 100 per cent security to her and it was not even my job.""There was full security, Benazir came to Liaquat Bagh for two hours and then she passed through the crowd to sit in her bomb-proof car, which we had provided. How is it that not even a hair was out of place in the case of the other five people in the car?" No doubt, Dus Percenti is a political and economic crook, and using his wife's office to enrich the both family coffers, but to accuse him of murdering BB, is stretching things too far :mrgreen:
"He [Zardari] got a fake will written and took over the party. He also became owner of Benazir's property. He has become so rich (because of Benazir's death)." Now if we examine the evidence, lets talk about the bomb-proof car that they were provided. Whose idea was it to cut a hatch on the top of a bomb-proof car?" he asked."More importantly, whose idea was it to call Benazir three times and ask her to raise herself out of the hatch and wave to the crowd?" Bilawal the "Oxford Graduate", is no match for mohalla ka goonda Mush :mrgreen:
A day after alleging that Musharraf was responsible for the assassination of his mother, Bilawal levelled more accusations at the former military dictator, claiming that "he is also responsible for the 2007 Karsaz bombing as well as the killing of [Baloch nationalist] Akbar Bugti"."I have never seen a more cowardly man than Musharraf," Bilawal said while talking to media at the inauguration of the Sukkur Press Club's new building.
Bilawal also said he has hopes in Pakistan's judicial system, which has kept him from suing Musharraf in other countries."I could have sued him in Dubai and London too, but doing so would show a lack of confidence in Pakistani courts," he said. "I am still hopeful that I will get justice from these [Pakistani] courts. I appeal to these courts to give me and my family justice." When it comes to the crunch, the fauj will not like to see one of its own disgraced :mrgreen:
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This Article is Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed’s reply to Yasser Latif Jinnah’s Hagiographer Hamdani.

Rights of Muslims and minorities — I - Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed

Considering the actual development of the constitution and law in Pakistan it is preposterous to suggest that Jinnah wanted Pakistan to be a secular state, but all others who succeeded after him betrayed him!

Pakistan was created in negation of secular principles of state and government, Religious nationalism, in sharp contrast to territorial nationalism, was the core argument of the two-nation theory on which a separate Pakistan for Muslims was justified and finally established in mid-August 1947.

Mohammad Ali Jinnah gave different pledges to different sections: to the British and the Indian National Congress, Hindus, Christians Parsees and modernist Muslims he said that Pakistan would be a Muslim democracy treating minorities with characteristic Islamic generosity; to the ulema and conservative sections of society he committed himself to making the Sharia the source of law for Pakistan; and to worried Shias and Ahmadis he said that Pakistan will not be a sectarian state. As the proverbial lawyer who prepared his brief with just those arguments he believed would win him the case Jinnah was perfectly at ease in giving those pledges to different groups which would help him win the Pakistan case. There was no other choice.

On 11 August 1947 he surprised even his closest associates and lieutenants when speaking spontaneously to the members of the Pakistan Constituent Assembly he said that Hindus and Muslims will enjoy equal rights as citizens thereby suggesting that they could be members of the same nation. The partition of India, Bengal and Punjab bequeathed minorities on both India and Pakistan and Jinnah was fully conscious of the great peril the 30 million Muslims left behind in India would constitute if they were to migrate to Pakistan under duress from the Indian state. He had to underscore that Pakistan will treat its minorities generously in the hope that the Indian state would not force the Muslim minority to Pakistan. It did not but Pakistan could not prevent Hindus and Sikhs being hounded out from most of West Pakistan.

At any rate, the confusion generated by the 11 August 1947 speech was ally laid to rest on 25 January 1948 when he addressed members of the Karachi Bar. He said, ‘Why this feeling of nervousness that the future constitution of Pakistan is going to be in conflict with Shariat Laws… Islamic principles today are as applicable to life as they were 1,300 years ago… Islam and its idealism have taught us democracy. Islam has taught equality, justice and fair play to everyone’.

The one and only constitution framed by the elected representatives of the people of Pakistan was the 1973 Constitution which not only described Pakistan as an Islamic state but also required the president and prime minister to be Muslims who should under oath testify that they believed in the finality of the prophethood of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

Fully aware of the fact that he had given diverse pledges to different sections of people, he left it to the Pakistan Constituent Assembly to work out a constitution for Pakistan.

This task was undertaken by Prime Minister Liaqat Ali Khan who on 7 March 1949 introduced the Objectives Resolution in the Pakistan Constituent Assembly. I quote its relevant text pertaining to the ideology on which the constitution was to be based.

Whereas sovereignty over the entire universe belongs to God Almighty alone and the authority which He has delegated to the State of Pakistan through its people for being exercised within the limits prescribed by Him is a sacred trust;

Wherein the State shall exercise its powers and authority through the chosen representatives of the people;

Wherein the principles of democracy, freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice, as enunciated by Islam, shall be fully observed;

Wherein the Muslims shall be enabled to order their lives in the individual and collective spheres in accord with the teachings and requirements of Islam as set out in the Holy Quran and the Sunna;

Wherein adequate provision shall be made for the minorities freely to profess and practice their religions and develop their cultures;

Wherein shall be guaranteed fundamental rights including equality of status, of opportunity and before law, social, economic and political justice, and freedom of thought, expression, belief, faith, worship and association, subject to law and public morality;

Wherein adequate provision shall be made to safeguard the legitimate interests of minorities and backward and depressed classes (Constituent Assembly Debates Vol V, 1949).


From the list of those who participated in the debate on the side of the government it was clear that they were all members of the Muslim League and were conventionally Muslims. Those who spoke against it were members of the Congress Party and were Hindus. The Hindus alleged that the prime minister had taken a position against the vision Jinnah had advanced on 11 August 1947. Liaqat and his team waxed eloquence that the Objectives Resolution was not only consistent with Jinnah’s vision but its fulfilment.

The reports of 1950, the first Basic Principles Report of 1952, the second Basic Principles report of 1954 and finally the constitution of 1956 was announced but it never became operational. No government: elected, unelected, civilian or military ever even once tried to declare Pakistan a secular state. A half-hearted attempt was made by Field Marshal Ayub Khan whose 1962 constitution described Pakistan merely as The Republic of Pakistan, while simultaneously committing Pakistan to bring all laws in consonance with Quran and Sunna and requiring the president to be a Muslim. A storm burst out against the omission of ‘Islamic’ from the identity of Pakistan. Islamic was restored immediately and Pakistan became the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The one and only constitution framed by the elected representatives of the people of Pakistan (truncated Pakistan reduced only to West Pakistan in 1971) was the 1973 constitution which not only described Pakistan as an Islamic state but also required the president and prime minister to be Muslims who should under oath testify that they believed in the finality of the prophet hood of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). In 1974 the same Pakistan National Assembly declared the Ahmadis non-Muslims.

Under General Zia further legal restrictions were imposed on Ahmadis. They were forbidden to use Islamic nomenclature. Benazir Bhutto nor Nawaz Sharif dared to rescind the Islamist edicts introduced by Zia. On the contrary, while the blasphemy law of 198 introduced by Zia stipulated heavy fine, life imprisonment or capital punishments as different types of punishments which could be meted out to blasphemers the law was in 1990 further narrowed to only capital punishment by the Federal Shariat Court when Nawaz Sharif was prime minister. It has remained so ever since.

Considering the actual development of constitution and law in Pakistan it is preposterous to suggest that Jinnah wanted Pakistan to be a secular state, but all others who succeeded after him betrayed him! If at all for discussion’s sake we assume that he wanted Pakistan to be a secular state, then his was no more than a one-man constituency.

The truth is that it is a vain myth created by self-proclaimed champions and devotees of Jinnah. From a political science point of view the correct, realistic and relevant question to pose should be: are the constitutional developments after the Objectives Resolution of 7 March 1949 consistent with its commitments to Muslims and minorities?

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The Farce Of Paki Justice: Pakjab Governor's Son Uses His "Sifarish" To Sexually Harass Female Advocate . Supreme Court Judge Then Uses His "Authority" And Accepts Apology Tendered By The Miscreant Son :mrgreen:

Harassing Woman Lawyer: SC accepts governor Punjab Son’s apology
LAHORE : Appearing before the two-member bench of the Supreme Court headed by Chief Justice Mian Saqib Nisar has summoned the son of Governor Punjab Rafique Rajwana, Asif Rajwana offered unconditional apology to the court for harassing a female lawyer on the phone. The apex court had summoned Asif Rajwana while hearing the suo moto case pertaining to collection of additional fees by private medical colleges.A two-member bench headed by the chief justice and comprising Justice Ijazul Ahsan is hearing the case in the apex court’s Lahore registry.
When Asif Rajwana appeared before the court on Thursday the Chief Justice asked why he did not appear before the court on Wednesday as summoned, he apologized to the court.
When Chief Justice asked him why had he called the woman lawyer Asif said that he has family terms with advocate Anjum saying that he did not threatened her in any way but had only called her because he knows her personally. When Chief Justice reprimanded him that he wanted to stop the woman lawyer from recording her statement Asif answered in negative. Probably, does not have a steady job or a career and living off his "father's name" at home. Probably, providing some "muscle" on and off !
Later on Asif Rajwana offered unconditional apology to the court for calling the female lawyer and also submitted an apology letter to the court. The unconditional apology was accepted by the court. Echendee of all parties now remains intact :D
During hearing Chief Justice enquired about the owners and trustee of Sharif Medical College Lahore. At this point the principal of the said college appeared before the court which asked him why he did not appear yesterday to which he said that he had not received the message.When the court asked the principal of Sharif Medical College that who is the trustee of the said college he informed the court that its main trustee is Mian Nawaz Sharif. Over this the court said that why the owner of the College has not appeared despite being summoned by the court. The "Supreme Court" judge is punching his "authority" way beyond his pay scale. To summon Ganja in this "petty dispute" when the Ex PM has got so many weighty matters on his mind ( eg. what's for lunch today :D )
The Chief Justice asking the principal to inform the court about the amount of fee charged to students ordered the submission of the bank accounts and other all information of the College on next date of hearing. Whether the principal will comply and whether such information will be submitted by Ganja family is another matter :mrgreen:
The Chief Justice also remarked that the court is trying that money should not be an obstacle to education. All the medical colleges should show flexibility to give admission to deserving students who could not pay the fees and if for this purpose they have to contact philathorists they should do it, he added. Most likely the establishment of the Medical College is yet another money making racket of the Ganja family business. How to use/ access "state funds" to line their own coffers and earn Islami sawab from the Aam Abduls
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Suicide bombers kill 40 at Shia centre in Afghan capital

KABUL: A suicide attack on an office of the Afghan Voice news agency and a neighboring Shia cultural centre in the capital Kabul killed dozens on Thursday, officials and witnesses said, with many of the victims students attending a conference.

Interior Ministry deputy spokesperson Nasrat Rahimi said at least 40 people had been killed and 30 wounded in the blast, the latest in a series to have hit media organisations in Kabul.

Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack, in an online statement carried by it’s Amaq news agency. The suicide attack was carried out by one bomber wearing a vest and followed three other bomb blasts in the same area, the statement said. The agency offered no evidence for the claim of responsibility for the attack.

The attack occurred during a morning panel discussion on the 38th anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Sunni-majority Afghanistan at the Tabian Social and Cultural Centre, with many of those attending students, witnesses said.

Photographs sent by witnesses showed what appeared to be serious damage at the site, in a heavily Shia area in the west of the capital, and a number of dead and wounded on the ground.

Deputy Health Minister Feda Mohammad Paikan said 35 bodies had been brought into the nearby Istiqlal hospital. Television pictures showed many of the injured suffered serious burns.

President Ashraf Ghani’s spokesperson issued a statement calling the attack an “unpardonable” crime against humanity and pledging to destroy terrorist groups. Taliban spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid issued a statement on Twitter denying involvement.

The attack, the latest in a series to hit Afghan media groups in recent years, follows an attack on a private television station in Kabul last month.

Backed by the heaviest US air strikes since the height of the international combat mission in Afghanistan, Afghan forces have forced the Taliban back in many areas and prevented any major urban centre from falling into the hands of insurgents.

But high-profile attacks in the big cities have continued as militants have looked for other ways to make an impact and undermine confidence in security. Islamic State, which is opposed to both the Taliban and the Western-backed government, has claimed a growing share of such attacks.

“This gruesome attack underscores the dangers faced by Afghan civilians,” rights group Amnesty International said in a statement from its South Asia Director, Biraj Patnaik. “In one of the deadliest years on record, journalists and other civilians continue to be ruthlessly targeted by armed groups.”

According to a report this month by media freedom group Reporters without Borders, Afghanistan is among the world’s most dangerous countries for media workers with two journalists and five media assistants killed doing their jobs in 2017, before Thursday’s attack.

Pakistan denounces attack

Pakistan has strongly condemned the terrorist attacks that shook Kabul today.

“We express our heartfelt condolences with the families and friends of those who have lost their loved ones in these brutal terrorist attacks and pray for the speedy recovery of the wounded,” a statement from the ministry of foreign affairs stated.

“We express our solidarity with the government and the people of Afghanistan,” it added.

Pakistan, the communique said, reiterates its unequivocal condemnation of terrorism in its all forms and manifestations, and firm resolve to eradicate the menace.

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Kulbhushan Jadhav: 'After Pak's drama, India's ICJ case gets stronger'

NEW DELHI: Does India have anything to show after the latest Kulbhushan Jadhav episode after his mother and wife visited him in Islamabad where he is in Pakistani custody, sentenced to death for alleged espionage and terrorism? Despite the national outrage at the treatment meted out to Jadhav's kin, the highest levels of government believe there are some key takeaways.

The obvious point of satisfaction has been for the family who now know he is alive and in fairly good health. Jadhav may have been drugged, coerced, perhaps even tortured, but the family has reported that they were happy about the meeting. Second, the very fact that Pakistan moved from its extreme position of not providing any access to Jadhav to at least opening up to his family is promising, say sources. India is now gearing up for the arguments and verdict by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on its plea for consular access. While Pakistan has stressed that there could be no question of granting access to spies, Indian government believes it has a strong case based on the Vienna Convention.

The key aspect of consular access, according to sources, is the fact that it gives the person in question both personal and legal assistance. That also means he can get access to a lawyer to fight his case. Obviously legal assistance given after the verdict - in this case, by a military court - is meaningless. As Pakistan analyst Sushant Sareen points out, if Pakistan had hoped that this meeting would help them in the ICJ, it cannot.

This would give Indian lawyers an opportunity to argue for a mistrial, particularly as it was conducted in secret without witnesses or any other known legal procedure. India reckons that having taken the case to ICJ, it has shone a light on the patently unfair conviction of Jadhav. Of course, Pakistan can still just execute him since he is in their custody, which is the worst case scenario. But the gesture of allowing Jadhav's kin to meet him shows Pakistan is not yet ready to throw all conventionn to the wind.

"Pakistan is not listening to their lawyers," sources said. On Jadhav's trial, sources following developments closely said it is impossible for a spy to function in a foreign country without local assistance. Pakistan had made no effort to produce anybody who could have been Jadhav's local contact. That, he said, was another hole in Pakistan's case.

As for Pakistan's mean-spirited attitude, it has put paid to any thought of India easing up on its tough stand of no talks. As Vikram Sood, former RAW chief says, "Hopefully, this will be seen as a reaffirmation that Pakistan is incapable of even moderately civil behaviour as far as India is concerned, let alone humane acts." Pakistan analyst Sareen, adds, "Pakistan has overplayed its hand and exposed themselves with their despicable behaviour as well as their paranoia of two distraught women. Any benefit they hoped to gain from the spectacle has been lost by their bloody mindedness."

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More Embarrassment For Pak; #FreeBalochistan Billboards Go Up In Times Square
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28-12-2017 09:07 am
The World Baloch Organisation (WBO) has launched billboards carrying the slogan "#FreeBalochistan from human rights abuses by Pakistan" across the iconic Times Square in the New York City.The billboards up in the heart of New York will remain there as the city celebrates New Year's Eve, an iconic event witnessed by millions across the United States and the world. The billboards aim at highlighting Pakistan's kidnappings, tort, re and massacres in occupied Balochistan and the Baloch people’s right to self-determination.
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Pakistan has not allowed the international press, human rights monitors and aid agencies to enter Balochistan. The adverts seek to raise awareness about the plight of the secular Baloch people who have suffered gross human rights abuses by the Pakistani authorities for several decades.
The billboard adverts are part of the ongoing human rights campaign in the city, which kicked-off with more than 100 taxis carrying similar slogans.
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One imp bit of information missing. Did KJ walked and sit in front of his relatives, or after the conversation was over did he get up? Or he was sitting there all the while? Simple walk, sit, get up could give away his health.
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ashish raval wrote:
abhijitm wrote: Its hard but I would be relieved to see him dead asap instead of going through torture everyday. poor guy. Indian establishment should focus on revenge now.
Do we not have a ISI rat caught from Nepal who was out for a security job out there?
Not enough.
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Pakistani woman 'gang raped on orders of village council' after marrying man of her choice :

Independent, UK

Will some other Uniformed Jihadi of the Punjabi dominated Military of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan follow in the footsteps of General Pervez Musharraf and say the rape victim did this for a visa to Canada?:
Musharraf’s remarks condemned: Rape victims ……………………..

“You must understand the environment in Pakistan ... This has become a money-making concern. A lot of people say if you want to go abroad and get a visa for Canada or citizenship and be a millionaire, get yourself raped,” President Musharraf told the Washington Post in an interview.
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X Posted from the Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan thread.

Green on Green Mohammadden belief based sectarian oppression of fellow Mohammaddens. The sad story of the oppression of minority Ahmadiyya aka Ahmadi sect by fellow Mohammaddens in the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Shunned by Pakistan’s Muslims, Ahmadis Find Refuge in a City of Their Own
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abhijitm wrote:
ashish raval wrote: Do we not have a ISI rat caught from Nepal who was out for a security job out there?
Not enough.
Not enough because we owned up kulbhushan jadav. ---deleted offensive comments on serving minister ---

The proper way to deal with such cases is to disown KJ and from the background try to get him released in exchange for some similar agent.

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Where did we own up that KBY is an agent????
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What is the need to say that KJ is Indian citizen sir?
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Why should we deny he is an Indian Citizen? What hope of rescuing him if we denied him his country? What would we say to the family Sir?
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Why did ISI and literally every one in Islamabad even today they say Kasab is not our citizen? If you can answer this, you have answered your own question
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Disowning own citizen is ridiculous. We are not pak. It is our collective duty to protect each one of us.
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Kasab was a terrorist caught in the act. Kulbhushan ji was no such thing. Not owning up Kasab is Pakistan denying link to terrorism. Not owning up KBY when there was no way of denying he is Indian would be accepting terrorism.

BTW, Pakistan has admitted that Kasab was a citizen. Some links:

http://www.rediff.com/news/2009/jan/07m ... istani.htm

https://www.dawn.com/news/856680

I agree though, they were reluctant to admit. However, with Kubhushan ji we are willing to admit he is our citizen because the person is not what Pakistan is claiming him to be.
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^^^ the statecraft has different rules than our personal life's.

In statecraft first thing one does is to disown anyone caught in the enemy's soil publically, but simultaneously rescue them from behind the public eye.

If you do such a big drama as what has happened in this case, then even if KJ was not an agent, he will be viewed as such.

ISI is superior to our intelligence agencies, that is the reason they played Sushma Swaraj (through blackmail or something else) and overruled a basic fundamental of denial of KJ ownership.

The moment we owned him up, the external intelligence agencies of India didn't have freedom of operations and every thing is in public domain and the resulting humiliation.

ISI aim is to humiliate us, and Sushma Swaraj gave such opportunity on a platter.
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abhijitm wrote:Disowning own citizen is ridiculous. We are not pak. It is our collective duty to protect each one of us.
First of all, KJ should not go to Pakistan.

If he was abducted, then it's the duty of our external intelligence agencies to bring him back and there was no role for MEA. India's external intelligence agencies would have brought him back by this time if Sushma Swaraj did not interfere.
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TKiran wrote:What is the need to say that KJ is Indian citizen sir?
He is a retired Indian Navy officer. ABDUCTED by the savages from Iran where he was conducting his own business. Presumably not a citizen of Mars, hain? I don't understand the question, I guess.
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India's external intelligence agencies would have brought him back by this time if Sushma Swaraj did not interfere.
:shock:
How would that have happened?
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UlanBatori wrote:
TKiran wrote:What is the need to say that KJ is Indian citizen sir?
He is a retired Indian Navy officer. ABDUCTED by the savages from Iran where he was conducting his own business. Presumably not a citizen of Mars, hain? I don't understand the question, I guess.
Actually ISI thought that KJ was from Mars and they were about to release him. They wanted a certificate from MEA that KJ is not an Indian. Now Sushma Swaraj gave a certificate that KJ is not an Indian. But she was using a pencil of her granddaughter instead of a pen, ISI erased the word "not" in her certificate using Pelican lubber.

Now I think my question would be clear.
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sum wrote:
India's external intelligence agencies would have brought him back by this time if Sushma Swaraj did not interfere.
:shock:
How would that have happened?
When you don't tie the hands of our external intelligence agencies, they do wonderful things and you would not even know.

They rescued hundreds if not thousands of young ladies from Syria when they were being sold atleast one case I know (Kerala nurse). Rescueing KJ is like నల్లేరు మీద బండి నడక.
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I have to say I feel TKiran may be in the right here.

If KJ is not a spy then he put himself at risk by operating close to hostile territory.

If he is a spy, then MEA had no business interfering with the operations of an intelligence agency. They should have provided support and cover and ensured that the agency brought him back.

By acknowledging KJ as a citizen I fear his life has been made much worse. This is pak we are talking about who love to torture and humiliate indians.
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