Iran News and Discussions

The Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum is a venue to discuss issues pertaining to India's security environment, her strategic outlook on global affairs and as well as the effect of international relations in the Indian Subcontinent. We request members to kindly stay within the mandate of this forum and keep their exchanges of views, on a civilised level, however vehemently any disagreement may be felt. All feedback regarding forum usage may be sent to the moderators using the Feedback Form or by clicking the Report Post Icon in any objectionable post for proper action. Please note that the views expressed by the Members and Moderators on these discussion boards are that of the individuals only and do not reflect the official policy or view of the Bharat-Rakshak.com Website. Copyright Violation is strictly prohibited and may result in revocation of your posting rights - please read the FAQ for full details. Users must also abide by the Forum Guidelines at all times.
ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 50070
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby ramana » 12 Jan 2018 01:39

proShah= Reza Shah the son of the earlier Shah. IOW restoring imperial Iran.

Austin
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21767
Joined: 23 Jul 2000 11:31

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Austin » 14 Jan 2018 00:13

Iran prevented an attempt to import from Pakistan's territory explosives and sabotage equipment of terrorists - IRGC
01/13/2018 15:08:56
Dubai. 13th of January. INTERFAX - The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) unit prevented terrorists from attempting to import explosives from Pakistan to destabilize the situation in the country, the report said on the website of the IRGC on Saturday.

"The terrorist group tried to import a batch of explosive devices into Iran in an attempt to carry out sabotage activities, create a dangerous situation and stir up riots inside the country," the report said.

A batch of explosives, suicide belts and equipment intercepted at the border were liquidated in Seravan in the southeast of Iran near the border with Pakistan, the report said.


http://militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=471124

Philip
BRF Oldie
Posts: 19366
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: India

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Philip » 14 Jan 2018 11:50

Iranian-Indo ChahBahar Port and road/rail link into Afg.and Central Asia will not be affected regardless of any US pressure, both nations supposed to have decided.Trump has also given his European allies 120 days to get Iran to give in further on is N- programme, which it said it would never do.So let's see 4 months from now.

IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6719
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby IndraD » 17 Jan 2018 22:59

Why are young Iranians demanding the return of the Pahlavi dynasty? Media-savvy exiles in Europe. http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/12/a-l ... ign=buffer

lacklustre and boring state TV of Iran has given way to dozens of Iranian channels being operated from abroad (esp London). Many relay how life & time was in pre revolution era (before 1979). Young people associate a liberal Iran with Pahlavi dynasty rule that is what the article is about.

IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6719
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby IndraD » 21 Jan 2018 05:53

Iran regime police has killed some females protesting againg hijab

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/statu ... 6159407105

the girl who took hijab off and waved it on stick hence becoming poster girl of protest can't be traced
https://twitter.com/MissyDa66394426/sta ... 5068566528

popular leaders leading protest arrested and can't be contacted https://twitter.com/MarjanFa1/status/952805062778261504

IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6719
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby IndraD » 24 Jan 2018 04:07

Iranian woman who bravely stood on a pillar box in Tehran waving her hijab is 'missing' and feared arrested, lawyer says

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z553AQmZXG

shashankk
BRFite -Trainee
Posts: 57
Joined: 16 Aug 2016 03:53

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby shashankk » 13 Feb 2018 10:22

Iran's Rouhani to visit India this week

TEHERAN (AFP) - Iran's President Hassan Rouhani will visit India this week for three days, local media reported on Monday (Feb 12).

Rouhani is due to leave for India on Thursday to discuss "the latest regional and global developments", the semi-official ISNA news agency said.

He was invited by Prime Minister Narendra Modi last year, ISNA said.

India and Iran have collaborated on key projects, most notably the Chabahar port in southeastern Iran that was inaugurated in December.

The port has been touted as a way for India to establish trade routes that bypass its rival Pakistan, but the project has seen multiple delays.

India has been a key purchaser of Iranian oil and gas, and maintained trade ties even as international sanctions were imposed on Iran over its nuclear programme between 2012 and 2016.

However, there have been tensions in the relationship, with the Indian media reporting frustrations over delays in awarding a contract to develop a major gas field known as Farzad B in the Gulf.

That led India to announce it was reducing its oil imports from Iran in protest in March 2017, leading Teheran to say it was restricting credit lines to India.

The two countries have nonetheless sought to move beyond the spat, and have continued to seek partnerships, with India signing a preliminary agreement last month to help expand Iran's rail network, including expanding rail links to Chabahar.

http://www.straitstimes.com/world/middl ... -this-week

Cosmo_R
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3407
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 01:24

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Cosmo_R » 13 Feb 2018 23:31

"The Israeli military said an Iranian drone it shot down over the weekend was based on an American stealth drone that was intercepted by Iran six years ago.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/12/middleea ... index.html

Interesting how they've maintained F4s and F-14s in spite of sanctions. They also seem to have become adept at making assault rifles.

Maybe we should tie with them

Vivek K
BRFite
Posts: 1877
Joined: 15 Mar 2002 12:31

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Vivek K » 14 Feb 2018 00:06

Cosmo_R wrote:"The Israeli military said an Iranian drone it shot down over the weekend was based on an American stealth drone that was intercepted by Iran six years ago.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/12/middleea ... index.html

Interesting how they've maintained F4s and F-14s in spite of sanctions. They also seem to have become adept at making assault rifles.

Maybe we should tie with them

Or maybe we should support our own industries! The Iranians have not reached the moon or Mars yet like us.

Philip
BRF Oldie
Posts: 19366
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: India

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Philip » 14 Feb 2018 04:01

Iran have surprised and surpassed expectations with their local military industry churning out local weapons for all 3 services and its RGs too.This in the face of total sanctions from the US/West meant to protect Israel, and the Sunni/ Wahaabi terrorist kingdom the KSA. How they've managed to keep their legacy US aircraft, etc. flying is a great mystery.After the N-sub deal was signed, expect more Ru and Chin eqpt. arriving.

shashankk
BRFite -Trainee
Posts: 57
Joined: 16 Aug 2016 03:53

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby shashankk » 17 Feb 2018 18:21

I see no major news about rouhani visit to India. Looks like a rooh visited us in dark of the night and nobody wants to talk about it.
This could be a barometer of Indian Iranian relationship after sanctions were lifted, Nothing to talk about except for chabahar.

arun
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9905
Joined: 28 Nov 2002 12:31

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby arun » 09 Apr 2018 09:13

X Posted from the India-US relations: News and Discussions IV thread to the Indian Foreign Policy, Iran News & Discussions, 26/11/2008: Never Forget. Never Forgive, CPEC and Terroristan threads.

Interview of U.S. Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for South and Central Asia, Alice Wells, by politician Subramanian Swamy’s daughter Suhasini Haidar for the Hindu.

US, far from being reluctantly acquiescent about Indian investment in the development of Chabahar Port in their archenemy Iran is actually “deeply appreciative of the Indian efforts to use Chabahar to provide alternatives to Afghanistan to open up a channel to Central Asia”:

Tell us about your meetings in Delhi, both bilateral and trilateral with Japan.

The momentum to this relationship is anchored by the two policies that govern our approach to the region: the U.S. South Asia policy and the Indo-Pacific policy. In the South Asia policy, the U.S. is working very aggressively to stabilise the situation and work towards a peaceful resolution that involves unprecedented engagement with Pakistan, and one in which India is playing an essential role as a net provider of assistance which is very different from a few years ago. On the Indo-Pacific side, that’s where the ambitions of the relationship lie. Our shared security interests are to see that the region doesn’t fall prey to some of the predatory practices being seen in the South China Sea, and how to offer alternatives.

On Afghanistan… the fact that this region has no regional trade is noteworthy and until we resolve that core conflict and open up the east and west, the potential for South Asia is not going to be achieved. We are deeply appreciative of the Indian efforts to use Chabahar to provide alternatives to Afghanistan to open up a channel to Central Asia. And we need to be creative in the absence of peace to ensure that Afghanistan can stabilise and grow.

Are you saying that the Chabahar route, with the port owned by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard (IRGC-owned Khatam Al-Anbia) meets with the U.S.’s approval?

The standard set for Chabahar is that the deals should not benefit IRGC members, that’s for sanctions not to be imposed, and for business deals to go through. The legislation originally passed (JCPOA) has a specific carve-out for Chabahar and that’s an acknowledgment of the necessary role of giving land-locked Afghanistan access and alternatives as it seeks to build its economy. We have seen with the shipments of wheat that India has really helped to open up trade with Afghanistan including air corridors. Its been striking that Afghanistan-Pakistan trade has declined 50% in the last year. India has provided options, and Afghanistan now needs the support of India and Central Asia.


Suhasini Haidar reminds the Alice Wells that US citizens were also killed in the 26/11 Mumbai Mohammadden Terrorism attack sponsored by State Actors of the Punjabi Uniformed Jihadis of the Military Dominated Deep State of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, that 10 years have passed since 26/11 and that US President Donald Trump’s New Year Tweet and new US South Asia Strategy on Afghanistan has signified more sound then fury. The RaRa US brigade that infests BRF from time to time may particularly note:

You were in Pakistan last week for several days. Are there any indications yet that Pakistan is taking action on terror?

As General (Joseph) Votel has testified, we see initial constructive steps and we want to build on that. Our conversation with Pakistan is about the unique influence it has and the unique levers it has in helping to shape Taliban expectations and to convince the Taliban to walk through what we all recognise is an open door. Those conversations are ongoing. We are not walking away from Pakistan, but we do not believe that yet we have seen the kind of sustainable and irreversible steps that are required to really change the situation on the ground.


Yet here in New Delhi, it looks as if since that tweet from President Trump on New Years day, India’s hopes from the U.S.’s new policy have not been realised. Terrorists targeting India like Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar still roam openly, issue statements, with no specific action taken against them except what is mandated by the U.N. Do you still think there is reason to hope that will change?

I was heartened by the press comments by General Bajwa where he said things like the ‘state must have the monopoly on violence’, and there is ‘no role for non-state actors’, and that ‘Pakistan cant be a normal states if there are extremist groups’. Those are extremely positive statements and now I think the challenge is to see them implemented. We are certainly in a very good faith conversation with Pakistan. We want the policy to succeed and for Pakistan to be both law enforced and economically secure country. We understand Pakistan is also a victim of terror and more than 400 civilians were killed by the TTP or other groups like AQ and ISIS operating in Pakistan. I always say that terrorists who attack Pakistan are also enemies of the United States. We have an agenda, we believe we have shared interests and Pakistan has a stake in a stable Afghanistan. So how do we make that calculus work?

But you’re basing all this on General Bajwa’s statement… this year marks 10 years since the Mumbai attacks, and there have been ten years of such statements. So what gives you hope that this time is any different from the past?

I think the South Asia strategy and the stance of the U.S. administration gives me hope. This is a strategy that has been implemented with greater force. It notes that this is a different world, and it is no longer acceptable or understandable to rely on proxy forces. And we are prepared, as we demonstrated with the suspension of assistance, to act on our concern when we don’t see sufficient action taken. The Trump administration has gone into territory not been entered before by the U.S. and that sends a very powerful message. We have a leadership role to play to close the chapter on proxy forces in South Asia. There is an urgency to this because of ISIS. We see ISIS in Afghanistan consists largely of Afghans and Pakistanis who have switched over from other terrorist organisations, but imagine if an insurgency became a nihillistic campaign that recognised no borders. We can’t afford the conflict and the ideological stew there to metastasise.

Yet eight months into the U.S. South Asia strategy, four months after CSF and FMF funding cuts, FATF action, IMF squeeze, the designation of Hafiz Saeed’s party MML as a Foreign Terrorist Organisation, there’s seems no impact on Pakistan actions. What are the markers that Pakistan should take, for the U.S., and possibly India to acknowledge they have taken some action?

We fully share your concern over Hafiz Saeed. He is a terrorist, with money on his head, he should be in prison, not on the streets, and we have concerns about his ability to operate freely..... [pause] This is a process, and while I know that’s not a satisfactory answer for a country that has suffered significant acts of terrorism emanating from Pakistan.

The U.S. has suffered as well, Americans died in the Mumbai attacks….

Absolutely…but this is a process. And it is a serious process, and even our Indian friends recognise the seriousness of purpose of the United States in adopting and implementing its strategy. So I would say, bear with us, this isn’t the end of our diplomatic game. We are continuously engaging in Pakistan because we do see the need for change.

Is there a timeline? Or a point at which the U.S.’s patience runs out?

We are evaluating as we go, in consultations with our allies and friends. But this is a process.

What are the markers of what you would like to see Pakistan do in the next few months?

I think Pakistan knows what it can do to change the calculus and to disrupt and make it harder for Taliban or family members [other groups] to take advantage of Pakistan’s territory. That isn’t a mystery. There will soon be a new civilian leadership in Pakistan, and we will see how the new government will take steps to demonstrate to the international community that Pakistan is serious about curbing terror financing and money laundering.

Again, there we have seen some positive steps: whether it is on the (LeT-owned) charities, whether it is the executive order designating U.N. terrorists under the Anti-terrorism Act, this is what we are going to be looking for. I believe that the international consensus was that the greylist was necessary as these were not irreversible actions, but I have to say, in my consultations in Islamabad, including among the business community, there is a lot of support for moving forward on terror. This is in Pakistan’s interest, as a big country that needs foreign investment, the way to attract it is to have a stellar reputation and stellar record. So many people I met welcomed the double-edged sword of FATF.


From The Hindu:

Yet to see irreversible steps for change on the ground in Pakistan, says U.S. envoy Alice Wells

hanumadu
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3983
Joined: 11 Nov 2002 12:31

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby hanumadu » 09 May 2018 23:30

How come Iran does not have nuclear weapons yet? It has a large, intelligent population and has been a middle income country for many years now.

Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 5344
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Iran News and Discussions

Postby Peregrine » 10 May 2018 01:39

Caught in US-Iran crossfire, India to work around curbs

NEW DELHI: As the Iran nuclear deal lies in tatters after US President Donald Trump walked out on it, India finds itself back on familiar territory of having to stay engaged with Tehran despite a coming rash of US sanctions.

Playing safe, the MEA said on Wednesday, “India has always maintained that the Iranian nuclear issue should be resolved peacefully through dialogue and diplomacy by respecting Iran’s right to peaceful uses of nuclear energy as also the international community’s strong interest in the exclusively peaceful nature of Iran’s nuclear programme. All parties should engage constructively to address and resolve issues that have arisen with respect to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA).”

India was one of the countries most relieved when the JCPOA was signed in 2015, with PM Narendra Modi describing it as a “triumph of diplomacy and sagacity”. During Iranian President Hassan Rouhani’s visit here earlier this year, a joint statement recorded India’s support, describing the deal as a “crucial contribution to the non-proliferation framework and international peace, stability and security”.

India came under intense US pressure from 2011 regarding its exposure to Iran and the Persian nation slipped from being India’s top source for oil, replaced by Iraq and Saudi Arabia. In 2018, India promised to up its offtake of oil from Iran. This may be impacted.

During the first round of sanctions, India built an alternative system of engaging with Iran while keeping its nose clean with the US — like using UCO Bank for payments. Those same processes will kick in this time too, officials said.

US enforcement could be much weaker this time around. In 2011-12, there was unanimous enforcement of sanctions by the P5+1. This time, the Europeans don’t want to tear up the deal, which means India will have many other countries willing to work around US sanctions. France, the UK and Germany have declared they will stand by the deal as have China and Russia.

The 90-day and 180-day waiver period by the US means a number of countries will have time to wind down operations in Iran. For India, the trouble spot here will be Chahbahar port which is crucial for connectivity and geopolitical links with Afghanistan and central Asia. In the previous round of sanctions, India and Afghanistan managed to squeeze an exception from the US on Chahbahar. India is hoping for a similar exception this time.

The trouble will be to get Indian private sector to invest in Iran. The rupee-rial agreement to aid investments that was agreed upon during Rouhani’s visit is yet to become reality.

There is some concern regarding the “secondary sanctions” that the US has in mind — but this was around even in the first round of Iran sanctions. This threatens entities doing business in Iran with sanctions. But a US official told journalists on Wednesday, “The leverage that we gained from the secondary sanctions is what we used throughout the world with engagement to get countries to partner with us to build the economic isolation of Iran. That’s what we want to do again. “

But India has other concerns. Iran has not used the last few years well to rebuild its economy in any meaningful way. Its economic condition is even more vulnerable today than it was earlier. In the last few years, Iran has spent more capital on the conflicts in Syria, Yemen and Iraq, with the result that inflation and unemployment are rife and erupted in mass protests earlier this year. The Rouhani government is likely to come under greater domestic pressure, but more alarmingly, it could create greater space for the hardliners in Iran.

For the time being, India is waiting to see how the entire process unfolds.

Cheers Image

Prem
BRF Oldie
Posts: 20830
Joined: 01 Jul 1999 11:31
Location: Weighing and Waiting 8T Yconomy

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Prem » 10 May 2018 05:32

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/b ... 828772.ece
The development of the Chabahar port, however, needs to be viewed as Iran’s call for “engagement”. The participation of Pakistan’s Minister of Shipping at the inauguration ceremony made it clear that for Iran Chabahar means business. Post-sanctions, the development of the Chabahar port reflects Iranian quest for multilateralism, and China by default is an important player in the Iranian scheme of things. Given the overt hostility of the Trump administration towards Iran, it is imperative for Tehran to maintain cordial relationship with a rising power like China.As of August, 2017 crude and condensate export from Iran to China was approximately 733,000 bpd (barrels per day); a rise of 11% compared to previous year. Besides, China’s iron-ore buyers see in Iran an alternative to Australia and Brazil. Over the years, China has emerged as Iran's leading trade partner.Chinese investments in Iran are part and parcel of its ambitious $1 trillion Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). Apart from their economic rationale, these investments are also a means to generate political confidence/acceptability for a China-centric world order. Iran perceives the BRI as a project that would make it an indispensable transit hub for countries like China, India and Russia and an effective antidote to the U.S. sanctions. Iran’s premium geographical location (as a bridge between Persian Gulf and Central Asia) along with a relatively stable political architecture makes it a central player for China’s BRI. This will give China de-facto control over two of the three major routes to world markets. It is imperative to compliment geopolitical premises with robust commercial exchanges. In collaboration with countries like Japan, India should offer favourable terms of trade in the region vis-à-vis China. To consolidate its strategic depth in the region, India should focus on initiatives like frequent joint naval exercises in the Persian Gulf. Iran, on the other hand, would do well by maintaining a fine balance between the elephant and the dragon. Experiences of countries like Sri Lanka should encourage prudent thinking on the part of Iranian policy-makers.New Delhi will have to adopt a nuanced approach towards Chinese investment in Iran, especially now that Tehran’s reliance upon Beijing is only likely to grow after Mr. Trump’s exit from the nuclear pact. Some form of Chinese participation in the Chabahar project would be helpful for the future of the project, especially if the terms and conditions are clearly specified. India and China are exploring joint economic projects in Afghanistan; they can surely also extend this engagement to the Chabahar.

ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 50070
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby ramana » 10 May 2018 06:48

hanumadu wrote:How come Iran does not have nuclear weapons yet? It has a large, intelligent population and has been a middle income country for many years now.



Looking at history and conflict, you really need lots of land/space to own nukes.

Otherwise its a Kalidasa move.

Only US, Russia, China and India can afford to have them.

ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 50070
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby ramana » 10 May 2018 06:51

Prem wrote:http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/between-the-elephant-and-the-dragon/article23828772.ece
The development of the Chabahar port, however, needs to be viewed as Iran’s call for “engagement”. The participation of Pakistan’s Minister of Shipping at the inauguration ceremony made it clear that for Iran Chabahar means business. Post-sanctions, the development of the Chabahar port reflects Iranian quest for multilateralism, and China by default is an important player in the Iranian scheme of things. Given the overt hostility of the Trump administration towards Iran, it is imperative for Tehran to maintain cordial relationship with a rising power like China.As of August, 2017 crude and condensate export from Iran to China was approximately 733,000 bpd (barrels per day); a rise of 11% compared to previous year. Besides, China’s iron-ore buyers see in Iran an alternative to Australia and Brazil. Over the years, China has emerged as Iran's leading trade partner.Chinese investments in Iran are part and parcel of its ambitious $1 trillion Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). Apart from their economic rationale, these investments are also a means to generate political confidence/acceptability for a China-centric world order. Iran perceives the BRI as a project that would make it an indispensable transit hub for countries like China, India and Russia and an effective antidote to the U.S. sanctions. Iran’s premium geographical location (as a bridge between Persian Gulf and Central Asia) along with a relatively stable political architecture makes it a central player for China’s BRI. This will give China de-facto control over two of the three major routes to world markets. It is imperative to compliment geopolitical premises with robust commercial exchanges. In collaboration with countries like Japan, India should offer favourable terms of trade in the region vis-à-vis China. To consolidate its strategic depth in the region, India should focus on initiatives like frequent joint naval exercises in the Persian Gulf. Iran, on the other hand, would do well by maintaining a fine balance between the elephant and the dragon. Experiences of countries like Sri Lanka should encourage prudent thinking on the part of Iranian policy-makers.New Delhi will have to adopt a nuanced approach towards Chinese investment in Iran, especially now that Tehran’s reliance upon Beijing is only likely to grow after Mr. Trump’s exit from the nuclear pact. Some form of Chinese participation in the Chabahar project would be helpful for the future of the project, especially if the terms and conditions are clearly specified. India and China are exploring joint economic projects in Afghanistan; they can surely also extend this engagement to the Chabahar.


These guys have rose colored glasses while looking at India options. Sitting in London and in ORF hardly gives them an Indian POV.

chetak
BRF Oldie
Posts: 17098
Joined: 16 May 2008 12:00

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby chetak » 10 May 2018 09:09

India should keep it's own counsel, generally, and abstain from all voting and stay neutral unless it is something that pertains specifically to India's benefit.

We should make no statements either in support or against the US or iran. Even if we had a dog in this fight, it's a very very small dog, one that really ought to quietly stay home. This is one pissing contest that we don't need to be anywhere near. Both sides have every interest in pissing all over us.

We should continue our relations with russia, keep our distance from the chinese and not get enmeshed in saudi led politics of the shia sunni variety. The iran sanctions have a wide reach and politics in multiple continents will be affected. At this point we are merely large oil importers looking for the best prices and we should limit our role to just that.

We have our own fish to fry and 2019 is coming up really fast with the BIF gathering strength.

rsingh
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3279
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 01:05
Location: Pindi
Contact:

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby rsingh » 10 May 2018 21:40

We used to buy oil from Eyran during last sanctions and we can do now. it is even better. after the lifting of sanctions Eyran had changed tone. We have to follow our own policy and negotiate hard with Eyran.Why are we wetting dhoti for such arrogant country? If Israel, US and Russia has agreed for a regime change in Eyran, that is completely different matter. Even then we have traded with them when nobody was talking to them.

Shameek
BRFite
Posts: 695
Joined: 02 Jan 2009 20:44
Location: Ionosphere

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Shameek » 11 May 2018 02:55

Israel launches massive military strike against Iranian targets in Syria

The Israeli military said it had struck dozens of Iran-linked military targets in Syria on Thursday in response to rocket fire, marking a significant escalation in regional hostilities a little more than a day after the U.S. withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal.
Israel said the attacks followed a volley of rockets directed at Israeli positions in the Golan Heights, which caused no casualties.
------
Jets headed for Syria screamed over northern Israel for more than four hours, and about 70 previously identified targets were hit, according to the Israeli military.

“This was by far the largest strike we have done, but it was focused on Iranian sites,” said Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus, an Israeli military spokesman. Syrian anti-aircraft batteries were also targeted after they fired on Israeli planes, he added.


Link

habal
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6234
Joined: 24 Dec 2009 18:46

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby habal » 11 May 2018 07:43

rsingh wrote:We used to buy oil from Eyran during last sanctions and we can do now. it is even better. after the lifting of sanctions Eyran had changed tone. We have to follow our own policy and negotiate hard with Eyran.Why are we wetting dhoti for such arrogant country? If Israel, US and Russia has agreed for a regime change in Eyran, that is completely different matter. Even then we have traded with them when nobody was talking to them.


In India benefits of purchasing cheap Iranian crude were never passed on to the Indian public filling up at pumps. The benefits were restricted to improving govt's finances only. So there is no widespread consensus in India on Iranian crude as people were kept out of the loop and it was the ruling dispensation making merry with surplus funds.

g.sarkar
BRFite
Posts: 1565
Joined: 09 Jul 2005 12:22
Location: MERCED, California

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby g.sarkar » 11 May 2018 10:37

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/ec ... 822861.ece
ANALYSIS
Trump's Iran move: India has better bargaining power now
RICHA MISHRA

NEW DELHI, MAY 9
“Blow hot, blow cold” has been the relationship between India and Iran since the first round of sanctions by the West on the Islamic nation. But, can India turn the latest announcement by American President Donald J Trump that the United States will pull out of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action – Iran nuclear deal – into an advantage as far as trade ties with Iran is concerned?
Yes, it can, believe those in the energy business as well as those who have trade ties with the Islamic Republic. Though most are still waiting to read the fineprint.
“Iran, which hardened its negotiating position in the recent past, will be on a sticky wicket now and this allows Indian companies to get better terms for deals,” said Saurabh Chandra, former Secretary in the Ministry of Petroleum & Natural Gas. But, even if trade ties are established, it will throw other challenges, including issues pertaining to payment and transportation — banking, insurance, and shipping.
The challenges: In fact, the pressure of the earlier US sanctions on Iran is so evident that Indian refiners were compelled to shift their attention to other crude oil producing nations. The import numbers of 2011-12 had revealed that Iran which was India’s second-biggest crude oil supplier after Saudi Arabia had lost its position to Iraq. India had cut it supplies from Iran slowly and steadily to the point that it slipped to seventh position. However, after the sanctions were lifted in 2015, oil trade from Iran picked up again and soon Iran became the third largest supplier after Iraq and Saudi Arabia. One of the deterrents was the mode of payment and transportation. In the earlier round also there was a big challenge for the ships getting crude from Iran to get insured as most of the big insurance players were either American or have significant business interest in America.
Also, most of the international trading business is done in dollar. India had faced challenges in paying for its trade with Iran. Though a rupee payment mechanism was worked out, its success was much debated.
....
Gautam

Philip
BRF Oldie
Posts: 19366
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: India

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Philip » 11 May 2018 12:19

The time has come for India to work out with friendly nations barter trade in local currencies like the Rupee-Rouble agreement with the USSR which was of great benefit to India,acquiring large qtys. of arms at low cost.Venezuela has offered us cut-price oil to be paid for in their new crypto-currency the petro.With the rupees falling by the day to the dollar,we need to leverage our own currency better with nations where the avoidance of dollar trade benefits both parties.Trade with Russia,Iran,Venezuela and one is sure many other nations,will in the long run benefit us.

Barter deals in commodities is another method too.In times past we exported tea in bulk to the Soviets.In the current sanctions regime against both Russia and Iran,there are huge opportunities for India to offer goods and commodities earlier imported from the West.Qatar is another state suffering under Arab sanctions.But our legitimate interests with Iran are sacrosant and under no circumstances should we succumb to US pressure. We are not a Yanqui catamite like Pak.

Will trump blow it?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 45521.html
Israel has no real desire for armed conflict with Iran, but Trump might stumble into war against Tehran
Analysis: If Donald Trump does lead US to attack Iran directly, it will be due to a misunderstanding of the real options available

Patrick Cockburn
Israel has no real desire to go to war against Iran, but Trump might lead the US into battle

Wenger: Premier League will lose out to European super league ‘soon’
Israel has launched its biggest attack ever on Iranian forces in Syria. This is a serious development, but reports of the entire Middle East being on the verge of all out war fail to fully appreciate the motives and intentions of the various players.

Looked at from the Israeli point of view, it is an excellent moment to act against Iran in Syria because it is unlikely that the Iranians will respond in a serious way.

In the wake of Donald Trump’s withdrawal of the US from the Iran nuclear deal, the Iranians want to show the rest of the world, and particularly the Europeans, that they are the reliable and pacific upholders of the 2015 treaty.

This phase may not last long and does not mean that the Iranians have any faith in the EU states keeping the accord alive. But they do want to ensure that the EU and others will only grudgingly cooperate with the reimposition of draconian sanctions by the US.

The Iranian economy will still be very badly hit because international banks and companies will be frightened of being punished by the US Treasury, but Iran will not be as isolated politically and economically as it was before 2015.

The Israelis do not want a wider war with Iran. The Israeli defence minister Avigdor Lieberman said that: "I hope we finished this chapter and everyone got the message," adding that Israel does not intend the situation to escalate.

Israel attack Iran targets in Syria: overnight airstrike in pictures
10
show all
Significantly, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu was heading home from Moscow where he had been seeing President Vladimir Putin as the Israeli air force was making the strikes of which the Russians were previously informed by Israel.

Mr Netanyahu evidently wanted to reassure Mr Putin that Israel is acting against Iran and is not trying to make a late-in-the-day attempt to change the outcome of the Syrian civil war, which is so far ending with a victory for Russia’s ally President Bashar al-Assad.

The Iranians show no sign of expecting a war with the US or Israel, at least in the near future, whatever the belligerent rhetoric coming out of Washington, Tel Aviv and Tehran.

Israel has accused Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards (IRGC) of firing 20 rockets at Israeli military positions in the Golan Heights late on Wednesday night, but, even if this is confirmed, it would amount to a very tame retaliation by Iran for earlier Israeli airstrikes.

Iran’s enemies are not seeking military confrontation, said the deputy head of the IRGC, Brigadier Hossein Salami, on Thursday.
Europe must resist the US to salvage the Iran nuclear deal
“They want to pressure our country by economic isolation,” he said, adding that the Europeans were powerless to salvage the deal under which Iran had curtailed its nuclear programme in return for a reduction in sanctions.

The bellicose threats against Iran coming from Israel and Saudi Arabia may be leading to a misunderstanding. Leaders in both countries may be eager for the US to have a military confrontation with Iran, but they would prefer to cheer on Mr Trump from the sidelines rather than become involved in a war themselves.

Israel has grim experience in the past of becoming engaged in an unwinnable war in Lebanon between 1982 and 2000 and, since 2015, Saudi Arabia has been suffering a similar failure in Yemen.

An American military attack on Iran might, indeed, happen, though not immediately and, if it does occur, it may well be because of a US misunderstanding of the real options available to it.

The one most agreeable to the White House would be regime change in Tehran: the association of leading figures in the administration like the national security adviser, John Bolton, with exiled Iranian opposition groups like the Mojahedin-e-Khalq may have be encouraging delusions about the likelihood of this happening.

The Iraqi opposition in 2003 successfully encouraged similar fantasies in Washington and London about the political state of Iraq prior to the US-led invasion.

Trump may similarly be deluded about the chances of sanctions driving Iran to a new nuclear deal which would in effect be terms of surrender dictated by the US.

No doubt the revived sanctions will be devastating for the Iranian economy, but Iran has survived a more onerous economic siege in the past while, this time round, ordinary Iranians will be more likely to blame the intransigence of the US rather than that of their own leaders.

The only alternative left for Mr Trump would be military action, particularly if Iran goes back to enriching uranium as it is likely to do, given that the US has sunk the deal restraining it from doing so.

Israel might take part in such a war, but it is scarcely in its interests to do so. Air strikes against specific Iranian nuclear facilities are one thing, but these might happen on the first day of a very long conflict that would be mostly fought out on the ground.

Iran has an advantage here because it is already on the winning side in the wars in Syria and Iraq.

In Lebanon, Israeli, US and Saudi Arabia have a good example of the morass they would be getting into because they failed, despite determined efforts over 36 years, to change the balance of power there against Iran and its ally, Hezbollah.

There is likely to be further well-hidden reason why leaders in Israel and Saudi Arabia may hesitate a little at becoming involved in an escalating confrontation with Iran that could lead to war.

They are delighted that they have an administration in Washington that is singing their tune. Their most propagandist claims are being echoed by the president.

But it should also occur to them that Mr Trump, though for the moment entirely in their corner, is mercurial, unpredictable and even mentally unstable.

He gyrates between isolationism and military intervention. He might easily provoke a crisis with Iran from which the US suddenly detaches itself – something like this happened to the Syrian Kurds earlier in the year – or he could one day stumble, along with his allies in Tel Aviv and Riyadh, into a war with Iran through sheer ignorance and miscalculation.



g.sarkar
BRFite
Posts: 1565
Joined: 09 Jul 2005 12:22
Location: MERCED, California

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby g.sarkar » 12 May 2018 00:18

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-eur ... sanctions/
May 11, 2018, 9:02 AM
France: Europe isn't U.S. "vassal," should trade with Iran
PARIS -- France's finance minister says European countries should push back harder against the Trump administration over the Iran nuclear deal and not act as "vassals" to the U.S. But German Chancellor Angela Merkel says the U.S. withdrawal from the Iran accord isn't a reason to dump decades of trans-Atlantic ties altogether.
The back and forth Friday came as thousands of Iranians took to the streets in cities across the country to protest President Trump's decision.
European governments are scrambling for ways to save billions of dollars in trade that could collapse because of Mr. Trump's decision this week to re-impose sanctions. He argued that the 2015 nuclear deal, which allowed for the lifting of sanctions, wasn't tough enough on Iran.
French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire said on Europe-1 radio that Europe should not accept that the U.S. is the "world's economic policeman."
"Do we want to be vassals who obey decisions taken by the United States while clinging to the hem of their trousers?" Le Maire asked. "Or do we want to say we have our economic interests, we consider we will continue to do trade with Iran?"
Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, meanwhile, condemned the U.S. move to re-impose sanctions on foreign companies trading with Iran as unacceptable. In a newspaper interview Le Drain said Europeans would "do everything to protect the interests of their companies" and planned to lead "tight negotiations" with Washington.
Merkel took a more measured tone.
......
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... -sanctions
US faces European backlash against Iran sanctions
Senior politicians says Europe will consider countermeasures to keep trading with Iran
Europe is prepared to introduce measures to nullify the effect of Donald Trump imposing sanctions on any non-US firm that continues to do business with Iran, the French government has said. The warning from the French finance minister, Bruno Le Maire, suggests Trump’s proposals to corral Europe into joining US foreign policy on Iran may lead to a severe backlash by EU firms and politicians, especially advocates of a stronger independent European foreign policy. “We have to work among ourselves in Europe to defend our European economic sovereignty,” Le Maire said, adding that Europe could use the same instruments as the US to defend its interests. Speaking on Europe 1 he added: “Do we want to be a vassal that obeys and jumps to attention?” When Trump announced he was pulling the US out of the Iran nuclear deal he said the US was also reimposing sanctions, including on any entity that continued to trade with Iran, in effect threatening billions of euros of European business.
The US Treasury has said it is giving companies three to six months to wind down their contracts, including purchases of Iranian oil.
On Friday Le Maire put forward three main proposals starting with an EU-wide blocking statute similar to an EU regulation passed in 1996 designed to nullify any US sanctions imposed on EU firms. The statute permitted European companies to ignore the US sanctions and said that any decisions by foreign courts based on the such sanctions would not be upheld in Europe. The US backed down before any sanctions were implemented.
“We want to reinforce this regulation and incorporate the recent decisions taken by the United States,” Le Maire said. He added: “The second avenue is looking at Europe’s financial independence – what can we do to give Europe more financial tools allowing it to be independent from the United States?” One proposal is to set up a purely European finance house to oversee euro-denominated transactions with Iran.
He also proposed a European agency capable of following the activities of foreign companies. Le Maire said he would meet with German and British finance ministers at the end of the month to discuss these proposals. Le Maire disclosed that he had already called the US Treasury secretary, Steven Mnuchin, urging him to allow exemptions for French companies or a delay in implementing the sanctions, while admitting he had “few illusions” about the likely response.
....
Gautam

RoyG
BRF Oldie
Posts: 5178
Joined: 10 Aug 2009 05:10

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby RoyG » 12 May 2018 00:36

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-europe-not-us-vassal-iran-nuclear-deal-donald-trump-germany-sanctions/
May 11, 2018, 9:02 AM
France: Europe isn't U.S. "vassal," should trade with Iran
PARIS -- France's finance minister says European countries should push back harder against the Trump administration over the Iran nuclear deal and not act as "vassals" to the U.S. But German Chancellor Angela Merkel says the U.S. withdrawal from the Iran accord isn't a reason to dump decades of trans-Atlantic ties altogether.
The back and forth Friday came as thousands of Iranians took to the streets in cities across the country to protest President Trump's decision.
European governments are scrambling for ways to save billions of dollars in trade that could collapse because of Mr. Trump's decision this week to re-impose sanctions. He argued that the 2015 nuclear deal, which allowed for the lifting of sanctions, wasn't tough enough on Iran.
French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire said on Europe-1 radio that Europe should not accept that the U.S. is the "world's economic policeman."
"Do we want to be vassals who obey decisions taken by the United States while clinging to the hem of their trousers?" Le Maire asked. "Or do we want to say we have our economic interests, we consider we will continue to do trade with Iran?"
Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, meanwhile, condemned the U.S. move to re-impose sanctions on foreign companies trading with Iran as unacceptable. In a newspaper interview Le Drain said Europeans would "do everything to protect the interests of their companies" and planned to lead "tight negotiations" with Washington.
Merkel took a more measured tone.
......
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... -sanctions
US faces European backlash against Iran sanctions
Senior politicians says Europe will consider countermeasures to keep trading with Iran
Europe is prepared to introduce measures to nullify the effect of Donald Trump imposing sanctions on any non-US firm that continues to do business with Iran, the French government has said. The warning from the French finance minister, Bruno Le Maire, suggests Trump’s proposals to corral Europe into joining US foreign policy on Iran may lead to a severe backlash by EU firms and politicians, especially advocates of a stronger independent European foreign policy. “We have to work among ourselves in Europe to defend our European economic sovereignty,” Le Maire said, adding that Europe could use the same instruments as the US to defend its interests. Speaking on Europe 1 he added: “Do we want to be a vassal that obeys and jumps to attention?” When Trump announced he was pulling the US out of the Iran nuclear deal he said the US was also reimposing sanctions, including on any entity that continued to trade with Iran, in effect threatening billions of euros of European business.
The US Treasury has said it is giving companies three to six months to wind down their contracts, including purchases of Iranian oil.
On Friday Le Maire put forward three main proposals starting with an EU-wide blocking statute similar to an EU regulation passed in 1996 designed to nullify any US sanctions imposed on EU firms. The statute permitted European companies to ignore the US sanctions and said that any decisions by foreign courts based on the such sanctions would not be upheld in Europe. The US backed down before any sanctions were implemented.
“We want to reinforce this regulation and incorporate the recent decisions taken by the United States,” Le Maire said. He added: “The second avenue is looking at Europe’s financial independence – what can we do to give Europe more financial tools allowing it to be independent from the United States?” One proposal is to set up a purely European finance house to oversee euro-denominated transactions with Iran.
He also proposed a European agency capable of following the activities of foreign companies. Le Maire said he would meet with German and British finance ministers at the end of the month to discuss these proposals. Le Maire disclosed that he had already called the US Treasury secretary, Steven Mnuchin, urging him to allow exemptions for French companies or a delay in implementing the sanctions, while admitting he had “few illusions” about the likely response.
....
Gautam


Last month Iran made it clear that it wants to diversify out of dollar into euro. This is after they took over Iraq and stabilized regime in Syria. Pipelines going to Europe will yield handsome returns to Iran. However, if they are allowed to do this nothing stops the rest of the GCC countries from diversifying out of dollar either. It's no coincidence that the US is targeting them now. The Russians are trying to protect them militarily and want the Europeans to help them out economically. Anything to get the US to roll back its presence in the Middle East and put pressure on it economically.

g.sarkar
BRFite
Posts: 1565
Joined: 09 Jul 2005 12:22
Location: MERCED, California

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby g.sarkar » 12 May 2018 00:57

RoyG wrote:Last month Iran made it clear that it wants to diversify out of dollar into euro. This is after they took over Iraq and stabilized regime in Syria. Pipelines going to Europe will yield handsome returns to Iran. However, if they are allowed to do this nothing stops the rest of the GCC countries from diversifying out of dollar either. It's no coincidence that the US is targeting them now. The Russians are trying to protect them militarily and want the Europeans to help them out economically. Anything to get the US to roll back its presence in the Middle East and put pressure on it economically.

Sirji,
After the sanctions were lifted, Europe got involved in exporting to Iran in a big way. US may allow some of these to continue to pacify France and Germany for a short while. However, Iran pays for these imports by exporting oil. The two major countries importing Iranian oil is China and India. Both export to the US and vulnerable to US pressures and threats. Please see:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44052734
The impact of Iran sanctions - in charts
Gautam

BharataTalwar
BRFite -Trainee
Posts: 38
Joined: 21 Nov 2010 05:50

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby BharataTalwar » 14 May 2018 04:00

hanumadu wrote:How come Iran does not have nuclear weapons yet? It has a large, intelligent population and has been a middle income country for many years now.


US and Israeli hostilities for one.

The Stuxnet virus caused a lot of damage. Mossad has also assassinated a number of their nuclear scientists. A lot of their assets were frozen for decades too.

kit
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2571
Joined: 13 Jul 2006 18:16

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby kit » 14 May 2018 05:01

Does anyone remember Iran reducing its discounts for oil to India and ONGCs legitimate share in its finds in Iran once the nuclear deal came out.. i say good for India that US rescinded it .. Never forget ! .. Iran is just a opportunist

Neshant
BRF Oldie
Posts: 4472
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Neshant » 14 May 2018 06:54

If gains in trade with Iran are dependant on them getting battered or vice versa, its not likely to be a stable, long term relationship. Best to avoid them until things change.
Last edited by Neshant on 14 May 2018 07:02, edited 1 time in total.

chanakyaa
BRFite
Posts: 1161
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 00:09
Location: Hiding in Karakoram

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby chanakyaa » 14 May 2018 07:01

Sanctioning EYou companies for doing bijjness with Eyeran is not going to work because it is not just the energy sector but banking is involved too. Very soon Eyeran news will go on back burner for power politics and horse trading behind the scenes. In the meantime,

China's CNPC ready to take over Eyeran project if Total leaves: sources

Total’s adventure in Eyeran

IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6719
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby IndraD » 14 May 2018 13:27

https://twitter.com/parisa22/status/993 ... 71713?s=21
if this tweet is to be believed Iranians have been tweeting overnight to challenge Islam by burning Quran.

looks like monolithic Islam based on Brotherhood of Islam is dead. People want to celebrate their local culture, language and identity. Also they want freedom to enjoy life if not to elect Govt.

g.sarkar
BRFite
Posts: 1565
Joined: 09 Jul 2005 12:22
Location: MERCED, California

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby g.sarkar » 14 May 2018 13:50

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/13/worl ... flict.html
With Demise of Nuclear Deal, Iran’s Foes See an Opportunity. Others See Risk of War.
By BEN HUBBARDMAY 13, 2018
BEIRUT, Lebanon — After the United States toppled Iraq’s dictatorship in 2003, Iran sent arms to militias and backed political parties there, bringing Iraq into its orbit.
After the Arab Spring uprisings early this decade battered the governments of Syria and Yemen, Iran deployed fighters and supported militias. In the chaos of Syria’s long-burning civil war, Iran seized the opportunity to build a military infrastructure there.
In 2015, President Barack Obama offered Iran what might have been the biggest opportunity of all: trading its nuclear program for the lifting of sanctions that had stifled Iran’s economy, paving the way for its reintegration into the international system.
Now President Trump, Israel and the Sunni Arab monarchies of the Persian Gulf want to change all that. Last week, Mr. Trump withdrew the United States from the international nuclear deal with Iran, reimposing onerous American sanctions and threatening more penalties to punish Iran for its regional behavior. After falling out of favor since the Iraq war, talk of regime change in Tehran has returned to Washington in a way not seen since President George W. Bush branded Iran part of the “axis of evil” in 2002.
But as frustrated as Mr. Trump and his allies were that the Iran nuclear agreement did not curb what they regard as regional troublemaking by Iran, it is far from clear that vacating the deal will either. “If we are going to confront Iran and roll back this Iranian network, what are we going to put on the table?” said Randa Slim, an analyst at the Middle East Institute in Washington. “And if Iran has gained influence and equities from these achievements, how is it going to fight back?”
Iran now maintains a network of powerful militias that defend Iran’s interests far beyond its borders.
....
An alliance against Iran has tightened, with the United States, Israel and the gulf countries united in opposition. But if they are now more committed than ever to challenging Iran’s reach, their abilities are limited.
The United States is hesitant to get entangled in new wars in the Middle East. Mr. Trump has cut some foreign aid in Syria and said he wants to bring home the roughly 2,000 American troops deployed there fighting the Islamic State.
Gulf countries, led by Saudi Arabia, have spent billions on advanced weapons over the years but have yet to prove they can use them effectively. They are bogged down in an aerial war against Iranian-aligned rebels in Yemen, and their reliance on checkbook diplomacy has left them with little influence in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq.
By contrast, Iran has devised creative ways to nurture strategic relationships that do not require big military spending, which it cannot afford anyway. “It is not only the money that greases the network; it is the ideology and the willingness of the Iranians to put their own skin in the game,” said Ms. Slim, the analyst. “The Saudis do not have that kind of toolbox.”
.....
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
https://sputniknews.com/business/201805 ... n-railway/
Ten O’Clock to Tehran: China Launches New Rail Link with Iran as US Severs Ties
Beijing has officially opened its new train route to Iran, as the US urges its companies to wind down their operations with the Islamic Republic.
As US President Donald Trump hardens his confrontational attitude to Tehran, tearing up the 2015 nuclear deal and calling for a new sanctions regime, China is more than ready to grab the opportunity for trade by opening a new international railroad connecting Tehran and Bayannur, a city in China's Inner Mongolia region. The exact route of the railroad is yet to be disclosed, as there are currently several major railroad projects, some of them even including China's biggest regional rival, India. But, considering Bayannur is located near the northern border of China and there's already an international railroad to Kazakhstan there, it is likely that the new trade route goes through the territories of former Soviet republics Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan.
......
Compared with ocean shipping, the train route shortens the delivery time by some 20 days, and Chinese sunflower seeds are now expected to get to Tehran in two weeks — less than half as long as before. The news comes at a time when an all-out military conflict between Iran is Israel is looming. In this light, Washington's call for companies to stop doing business with Iran might be perceived as a precaution in light of a coming war. If so, then China would seem to be taking Iran's side with its trade projects.
......
Gautam

Philip
BRF Oldie
Posts: 19366
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: India

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Philip » 14 May 2018 16:16

India is not some vassal stet of the US which must stand to attention and salute every time some Yanqui president farts! We are a sovereign nation,and have our own legitimate strategic interests with Iran and have just engaged with it in the Chabhar port and rail link to Central Asia,Russia and Afghanistan. Trade with these nations is of vital interest to us leave aside Iran's geo-strategic importance,it is a major exporter of oil to India and is giving us a route to Afghanistan by-passing Pak. Shiite Iran is also no friend of Pak,infested with Wahaabi terrorism. If the US tries to punish India for its relations with Iran or Russia for that matter,we should give it similar treatment.The booting out of the poisonous Coca-Cola,Pepsi chemical drinks and all the fast food chains with their unhealthy food affecting the health of millions of urban Indians would be most welcome in return for any US action.But more importantly is that the US must understand that we are not some petty principality like poodleistan,or vassal state like US allies in the Far East who allow US troops on their soil,or catamite Pak,but a nation thousands of years old ,far older than one barely a couple of centuries old,whose influence in the 21st century is fast fading away like the once omnipotent British Empire.

Fast forward Indo-Iranian relations and give any impertinent Yanqui the upturned finger!

chanakyaa
BRFite
Posts: 1161
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 00:09
Location: Hiding in Karakoram

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby chanakyaa » 21 May 2018 07:44

Sanctions or No Sanctions!! BritSh!ts are always there, extending a helping hand. Even Britsh!t ambassador was allegedly there at the contract signing...

Iran signs oil contract with UK's Pergas to develop Keranj field

Philip
BRF Oldie
Posts: 19366
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: India

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Philip » 21 May 2018 08:13

Hilarious! Poodleistan , Uncle Sam's closest catamite signs a deal with Iran , which the US wants to vaporize while our MEA babus often tremble in their trousers at forwarding Indo- Iranian relations in India's interests.
We should similarly seize the moment and seal all Indo- Iranian deals in the pipeline at one fell swoop.

Austin
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21767
Joined: 23 Jul 2000 11:31

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Austin » 28 May 2018 21:11

India to ignore US sanctions on Iran, Venezuela: minister
NEW DELHI: India will keep trading with Iran and Venezuela despite the threat of fallout from US sanctions against the two countries, Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj said Monday.

Swaraj, asked at a news conference whether US action against Iran and Venezuela would damage India, said the country would not make foreign policy “under pressure.”

US President Donald Trump this month withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal and ordered the reimposition of sanctions suspended under the 2015 accord.

Washington has also tightened sanctions against Venezuela over the controversial re-election of President Nicolas Maduro.

Both countries are key oil suppliers to India and the United States has warned that foreign companies which deal with Iran could themselves be punished.

But Swaraj said New Delhi did not believe in “reactionary” policies and would not be dictated to by other countries.

“We don’t make our foreign policy under pressure from other countries,” she told a news conference.
“We believe in UN sanctions but not in country-specific sanctions.”
Swaraj’s comments came just before a meeting with her Iranian counterpart Mohammad Javad Zarif in New Delhi.
Bilateral trade between India and Iran amounted to $12.9 billion in 2016-17. India imported $10.5 billion worth of goods, mainly crude oil, and exported commodities worth $2.4 billion.


India has other interests in Iran, in particular a commitment to build the port of Chabahar on the Gulf of Oman.
The port is being touted as a way for India to establish trade routes that bypass rival Pakistan.
Media reports have speculated India could revive a rupee-rial payment arrangement with Iran to shield exporters from the heat of US sanctions.
Swaraj also said India would continue trading with Venezuela, but there was no plan to use its local cryptocurrency in oil trade.

Austin
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21767
Joined: 23 Jul 2000 11:31

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Austin » 28 May 2018 21:20

India says it only follows U.N. sanctions, not unilateral US sanctions on Iran

Modi Government and Sushma Swaraj jee has to be truly commended for taking a strong stance here , Truly we are in an age of Assertive Government and Independent Foreign Policy ......My Hat Tip

Parasu
BRFite
Posts: 227
Joined: 04 Dec 2017 14:18

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Parasu » 29 May 2018 03:25

India had initially tried to placate Trump.
He had talked about 100% duty on Harley Davidson in his first speech to Congress. Indian govt first reduced it to 75 and then 50. Trump continued to rant.
So, now Indian govt is telling the Americans to f@ck off.

Austin
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21767
Joined: 23 Jul 2000 11:31

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby Austin » 29 May 2018 21:10

Press Release of External Affairs Minister of India, Smt Sushma Swaraj's meeting with Foreign Minister of Iran, Mr. Javad Zarif on May 28, 2018

http://mea.gov.in/press-releases.htm?dt ... n_Minister

External Affairs Minister’s meeting with Iranian Foreign Minister
May 28, 2018

External Affairs Minister met the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Iran, Mr. Javad Zarif today. They, inter alia, discussed bilateral, regional and international issues of mutual interest.

The two sides positively assessed the implementation of decisions taken during the visit of President Rouhani to India. These included bilateral cooperation in the areas of connectivity, energy, trade and promotion of people to people contacts.

FM Zarif briefed about the discussions that Iran has undertaken with parties to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action following the US decision to withdraw from the Agreement. EAM conveyed that all parties to the Agreement should engage constructively for peaceful resolution of the issues that have arisen with respect to the Agreement.

The other members of the delegation accompanying FM Zarif had separate meetings with their counterparts earlier in the day where they discussed measures for practical cooperation between the two sides.

New Delhi
May 28, 2018

dinesha
BRFite
Posts: 1046
Joined: 01 Aug 2004 11:42
Location: Delhi

Re: Iran News and Discussions

Postby dinesha » 02 Jul 2018 15:34

Views from Iran: Is U.S. President officially in charge of India’s foreign policy now?
http://www.tehrantimes.com/news/424922/ ... ign-policy
India’s foolhardy decision to cut Iranian oil imports under U.S. pressure at a time when the U.S. government has imposed higher tariff on many Indian products shows how the power dynamics work. However, the mood is Iran remains upbeat. Iranians are not panicking just because India has backstabbed them. The country has seen the worst and bounced back stronger every time.


Return to “Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests