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Gagan wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
Terroristan is scheduled to "repay" around US$ 6 Billion before End of June 2018.

May the All Magnanimous, All Magnificent, All Merciful, All Mighty Allah grant Terroristan a Speedy Sliding Voyage to Bankruptcy :rotfl:
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As Bakisani love to mention every now and then " Who will allow an aitmi taqat to go bankrupt"?
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Vivasvat wrote:I haven't seen this amount of direct Army bashing ever on na-pak TV. The gurus can opine.
One can be prosecuted under the bakistani law if one maligns or insults or questions the army (or the air force or the navy or the ISI) in public or on social media.
The question which comes to mind is why is ISPR allowing these views against itself, and why was he not cut off and no break requested? The "afsar" sitting there never raised his voice. This was highly unusual.
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"MUSH NEWS" :D

1. Attempts To "Screw Mush" Going On In Paki Courts, But Will The Fauj Allow Anyone To Humiliate "One Of Their Own" :mrgreen:

Treason case: Court asks federal govt to take measures for Musharraf's arrest


2. According to this report, in the Paki Press, the Interpol Hound Dogs have been let loose on the "You Can Run But Not Not Hide" Mush- The Kammanud Holed Up In Dubai :mrgreen:



Special Court orders arrest of Musharraf through Interpol in high treason case

PS: When will the Deep State clamdown on him like Altaf Bhai and puncture his "giant size ego" by ordering the media not to "invite" him for TV interviews and/or refuse to publish his news in the newspaper. Doubt that this will happen :mrgreen:


3. Mush Wants "Deep State" Protection :roll:

Musharraf wants defence ministry’s protection on return
Musharraf through his counsel requested for foolproof security upon return to Pakistan in relation to his appearance before the court. Musharraf’s counsel forwarded a petition to the Ministry of Defence on the orders of the Special Court constituted to try Musharraf for treason. Like a lost and hapless dog, he now seeks "protection", but no one is willing to "touch him with a ten foot pole" :mrgreen:
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arun wrote:

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Mohajir leader and head of the Mohajir Quami Movement aka MQM, Altaf Hussain, fires a salvo particularly targeting the Uniformed Jihadi’s of Punjab Province Dominated Military. Terms the Uniformed Jihadis of the Punjabi Dominated Military “Mass Murderers” and calls for them to be tried before the ICJ :
"Those corrupt military personnel who support and implement must be held accountable as war criminals, they must be tried before the ICJ (International Court of Justice in The Hague). I request member states to support me and my community, help us to bring these criminals to justice. Mass murderers must be held accountable,"
Accuses the Uniformed Jihadi’s of Punjab Province Dominated Military of oppression since the inception of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan:
"I represent all those human beings who have been oppressed by the Pakistani militaryregime, since the very inception of Pakistan, and in particular the Mohajirs who had migrated from India to Pakistan in 1947.

ANI via Business Standard:

Altaf Hussain to UN: Hold Pakistan accountable for war crimes, ethnic cleansing, rights violations

Our Government must provide 800% Diplomatic and Moral Support to ensure freedom and liberation for the many minority linguistic, ethnic, religious and minority Mohammadden sectarian groups that are subject to oppression by the Uniformed Jihadis following Sunni Mohammaddenism from Punjab Province who dominate the Military and the Deep State of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
Arun-ji :
The Paki Media- on directives from Deep State - has completely blacked out Altaf Bhai's address to UN Human Rights Council !!!!
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Now that Pakis are officially bankrupt, we need to announce plans to expand our ABM program and spread word that we are working on Counter Force.

Pakis need to increase their spending on nukes and missiles. By default the Faujis will skim lot of the fund. As long as this continues, fauji will not kill the golden egg.

Fundamentally I want Pakis to a pay jizya with their own money to prevent the fauj from using the crown jewels.
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( Late) Fidel Castro And London Mayor Sadiq Khan To Be" Bestowed Paki Civil Awards " For Services Rendered To Pakiland :roll:

Asma Jahangir, Junaid Jamshed, Afridi, Misbah among 141 nominated for Civil Awards
Whereas, the coveted award of Sitara-i-Pakistan is to be presented to...Whereas, the coveted award of Sitara-i-Pakistan is to be presented to ...and Sadiq Khan for their services to Pakistan. ( Sadiq being claimed as one of their own . But will he allow himself to be "claimed" :mrgreen: ) Some sort of a weird precedent is being set over here. If your mom or dad is from Pakiland, and you become a Mayor of a major city, you will be given an award, whether you want/like it or not :mrgreen:

Former Cuban President Dr. Fidel Castro will be honoured with Nishan-i-Pakistan for rendering unwavering services to Pakistan. :roll: Is he coming from "upstairs" to claim his award? Is he "turning" in his grave ?

Was not Pakistan, allied with Massa when Fidel was at the "peak of his power" and along with Nehru was a pioneer of the "non-aligned movement ?
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"Smart Paki Ayesha" Cum Fake Doctor Misuses Social Media For Her "Medical Practice" :mrgreen:

Karachi's fake lady doctor was running 'clinic' on social media
KARACHI: Initial investigations into the arrest of a fake lady doctor from Karachi's Jinnah Postgraduate Medical Centre (JPMC) have revealed that the accused was running a 'clinic' on social media.The investigation officer dealing with the case stated that as per the details gathered, the lady was in contact with a senior gynecologist of the government-run hospital for the last one year.
The police on Monday had arrested the fake doctor from the JPMC during a raid on a tip off. The imposter has been working at the Gynecological Ward of the Karachi's largest medical facility for the past one year.Station House Officer (SHO) of Karachi Women's Police Station Syeda Ghazala stated that she had been informed about a woman working as a lady doctor at JPMC gynecology ward, who was not affiliated with the hospital.Ghazala said she led a police team to the hospital where she interrogated the suspect.The SHO said the women failed to provide satisfactory answers to the police and turned out to be an imposter during the brief interrogation. She was then arrested and transferred to the local police station and later revealed herself as Aisha wife of Abdul Karim, a resident of Korangi. (one of the well known slum areas of Karachi !)
The police learnt that the woman had acquired education up to the matric level only and did not even have a lady health visitor or a mid-wife certificate. Nothing wrong in "faking" ! When things are desperate on the domestic front, someone has to "bring the bacon" home, certificate or no certificate :mrgreen:
The hospital security officials, however, did not accept responsibility of the incident. But that will not absolve them from lawsuits charges of negligence and lack of security :mrgreen:
Whereas during the investigation, the suspect herself told the police that she had been freely working at the ward and most of the ward employees recognised her as a doctor. Was she invited to Eid parties and/or other social functions :roll:
The police are also investigating the possibility of the woman’s affiliation with an illegal group that abducts new-borns from the ward. Just because someone is faking as a doctor, lives in a slum area and is only matric pass, does not automatically mean that one is a "gang member" :mrgreen:
The police said the suspect targeted female patients who visited the gynecology ward to undergo "illegal surgeries". According to police, a case against the accused have been lodged under Section 419 and 170 of the Pakistan Penal Code. Later, she was produced before Judicial Magistrate South and was sent to jail on judicial remand till March 26.
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Vivasvat wrote:
anupmisra wrote:
One can be prosecuted under the bakistani law if one maligns or insults or questions the army (or the air force or the navy or the ISI) in public or on social media.
The question which comes to mind is why is ISPR allowing these views against itself, and why was he not cut off and no break requested? The "afsar" sitting there never raised his voice. This was highly unusual.
They basically had no way of countering him. This guy is the only Paki whom I have seen other than Asma Jehangir who speaks with conviction and logic and that bluntly about this stuff. Others whom Indian viewers like such as Hassan Nissar have no love lost for India, they just are disgruntled and like to bash Paki politicians. Rauf Klasra is another sensible guy, but generally sugar coats his stuff and does equal-equal so as not to fall foul of the military.
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Sexual coercion rampant in Pakistani politics: Reham Khan

Reham Khan, the former wife of PTI chairman Imran Khan, claimed on Friday that sexual coercion is used blatantly in Pakistani politics, saying prominent positions in parties are given in return for ‘sexual favours’.

Many women have to surrender their political careers if they refuse to comply to such requests, the anchor-turned-politician said during an interview with DW.

The government, Reham added, should constitute an independent commission against sexual harassment, which is not linked with any political party.

When asked how political parties can empower women, Reham said the selection system for new political leaders should be based on merit. She termed the current selection system in the political parties a farce.

Reham accuses Imran of cheating on her with Bushra while they were married

Asked if her upcoming autobiography was going to shed a negative light on Imran Khan, Reham said the book was about her experiences and journey and that it was an honest account.

The PTI chief’s former wife denied that there was any coincidence that her book was going to be released just before the general elections.

Instead, she added, the policymakers at home could learn from her experiences. According to her, if the elections are going to be held this year, the book will be useful for those who want an insight into Pakistani politics.

When asked if she planned to return to the country, Reham said she couldn’t stay away from her country for long. She also said she would consider joining a political party if she can bring some change into the lives of the people.

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For Hire Journo ( Lifafa !) Tells The "Inside Story" Of How Bajwa Has Given Ganja A Long Leash Up to Now But Ganja's Days Are Still Numbered .

Contours of the polity in coming days
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The tone was set by none other than the man who could have done it and whose words all would take seriously. He did it in time. The message was given and received by all those who needed it.
Pundits are now linking whatever has been happening, and whatever may happen in future, to what was said, or not said, by the country’s army chief in a rare media interaction, as reported by this newspaper. This journo has a habit of stating words in a pompous manner. Mush "chased him out of the country" and he had to seek shelter in Massaland. But now, he is back with a vengeance - on the side of the side. And Immy !
Since the rules were defined for the meeting of General Qamar Javed Bajwa and top media persons, not much was directly reported, neither confirmed nor denied, barring a couple of exceptions, and no editorial comments or TV analyses were made. It probably was a session to explain, on deep background basis, the position of the establishment on burning national issues. It came about after criticism and innuendoes started hurting. Gen Bajwa’s earlier interactions with Parliament in closed-door sessions were either not understood or ignored. So Bajwa is "using" this - for hire - journo to send a message to Ganja . !
But critics are saying, albeit in muted tones that actions are speaking louder than words.These critics, mainly some sections of the media, some defeated or disgruntled politicians, some self-styled pro-democracy activists, attribute the changing face of politics and resurgence of national institutions and constitutional pillars of the state as blatant interference and over-stepping of boundaries. Paki "democracy" is a sham. This journo knows it. And Ganja- once a stooge of the fauj- also knows it !
These circles know and realise but may not admit or say so, as they are not naïve, that a huge vacuum had been created by mis-governance and bad governance of elected people and the country was sinking so fast on so many fronts that someone had to intervene, overtly or covertly. :roll:
It is obvious that before the July 2017 decision of the Supreme Court against Nawaz Sharif, there was a pervasive aura bordering reality that no one could take on the deeply entrenched political families of Punjab, that smaller provinces and non-Punjabi politicians were lesser citizens and laws would always fall short of holding the untouchables, including generals, accountable.
All of that started changing in July last year. Nawaz Sharif & Co. could not believe it was happening, they thought it may have been a mistake and Nawaz quickly tried using his connections and public pressure to undo it. Many said the judges would not be able to stand firm, that generals were divided and will assert to protect the Sharifs. There were as many stories as anyone could count. Inside knowledge and/or hearsay :roll:
But few realised that the new military doctrine had been carefully crafted well before things started rolling out in public. All right messages were sent to the right posts and key pillars were strengthened. Weaker backbones were provided the vitamins they needed. Military is always "standing behind" and pulling the strings every "democratic government" in Pakistan. Nothing new here. "Colorful language" ( right messages... key pillars.. vitamins blah blah blah ) does not matter ! :mrgreen:
It was determined that the State would show a lot of tolerance and resilience, even solid punches would be absorbed but the path that had been chosen ( to make Ganja redundant !) would be followed, undistracted.
Few could guess what the army chief has explained now: “The institution has evolved and is much more sensitive to the criticality of a democratic order which we will vociferously defend.”This observation can now be juxtaposed with the reported words of the army chief and the context will become clearer. “The path to salvation lies in protecting and preserving the integrity of all state institutions (Parliament, judiciary and military) as much as in upholding the rule of law (read: accountability) on the way to free and fair elections — come what may,” this newspaper quoted him saying, adding:“Indiscriminate application of laws — anchored in the Constitution — is absolutely essential if Pakistan has to extricate itself from the vicious cycle of mis-governance and selective application of laws; the rot must stop if we want to see Pakistan survive and prosper as a self-respecting nation; subversion of the judiciary or its rulings will not be allowed; the country will descend into chaos if we let the Supreme Court be humiliated by those who don’t like its decisions; national security far outweighs individuals’ interests; everybody shall have to perform his/her function with honesty and integrity.” Would not be surprised if this -for hire - journo had a hand in "crafting" Bajwa's speeches !
What could be more explicit when Gen Bajwa said, “Political leaders like Altaf Hussain are history. All MQM followers should realise that ‘Altaf, violence and extortion’ are not acceptable at all. Everybody is free to indulge in politics, but not at the cost of the constitution and the law of Pakistan.”He used the words ‘political leaders’ in plural, giving the example of Altaf Hussain.That is how the (so -called !) Bajwa Doctrine :roll: has worked so far. It is clear, non-violent, invisible but effective. All "praise" for Bajwa. All brickbats for Ganja !
That is why the initial media comments on the Senate coup have been largely muted. Only Dawn directly blamed what it called ‘anti-democratic forces’ when it wrote, “What is clear, however, is that the Senate election has opened the door to fierce and otherwise implausible political alliance-building, encouraged by anti-democratic forces in the shadows.” "Dawn" is one of the "saner" Paki dailies . Sometimes it refuses to buckle under fauji pressure !
Daily Nation said, “While it may certainly be shocking, the election is certainly not a ‘derailment of democracy’.” The News played softball, “The previously unthinkable has now become realistic and all bets are off about the direction our politics will take in the crucial coming months.”
The hard ground fact is that all cards are now on the table and what can and cannot be done is clear. Play ball fairly, keep playing, is the motto.
The writer is a senior (lifafa !) journalist
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Peregrine wrote:Sexual coercion rampant in Pakistani politics: Reham Khan

...sexual coercion is used blatantly in Pakistani politics, saying prominent positions in parties are given in return for ‘sexual favours’.
Are joo saying that shrilleenji aljo had to.....? Nooooo.......!!! :((

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Sharif’s name on ECL: Nisar chides govt for ignoring NAB’s recommendations
SLAMABAD: Former interior minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan has sought public explanation from the government over its decision to ignore anti-corruption watchdog’s recommendations regarding placing the name of former premier Nawaz Sharif on the Exit Control List (ECL).
Responding to a query in the National Assembly on Friday, he said during his tenure as interior minister for the first time the ECL policy was reshaped.
“Prior to my tenure names were placed on the ECL even after a brawl between a couple. Now matters of the ECL are decided by a committee set up in the Ministry of Interior,” he stated on the floor of the house.
He said as interior minister, he also eliminated the role of the secretary and the minister in the ECL matters and added the committee used to decide the matters on merit.
“NAB’s decisions used to be taken seriously during my tenure. Now if the recommendations of NAB have been ignored, then it has not been decided by the committee but it has come from elsewhere,” Chaudhry Nisar stated.
He said, “The house should be informed if someone’s name was placed on the ECL and other’s not.”
He was responding to a question of PPP-P’s Syed Naveed Qamar as why a former premier’s name was not placed on the ‘no-fly list’ which is maintained by the Ministry of Interior, despite the recommendations of NAB in this context.
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Pakistan doing ‘bare minimum’ to help US: official
Pakistan is doing the “bare minimum” to squeeze the Taliban and terror groups, a senior US administration official said Friday, despite Washington’s threat to freeze two billion dollars’ worth of aid.
“The Pakistanis have wanted to appear responsive,” the official said on condition of anonymity, sketching out the need for increased pressure.
“They have done the bare minimum to appear responsive to our requests”
But, according to Washington, there is little sign that Islamabad has made a decision to end its support for group which the country’s powerful security services see as safeguarding its interests and against bulwark against Indian influence in Kabul.
https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2018/0 ... -official/
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‘Imran Khan responsible for shoe-throwing culture
Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah has on Wednesday said that Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan was “responsible for the prevailing shoe-throwing culture”.
He particularly named Sheikh Rashid as the one “who would top the list of shoe-receivers”.
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https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2018/0 ... g-culture/
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This thread, like Pakistan, is descending into the ludicrous from the merely droll.


Is there anything in Pakistan more substantive than Imran Khan’s wives?
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In official communication, India accuses Pakistan of blocking govt websites

NEW DELHI: While the current round of hostility between India and Pakistan has largely been attributed to the raid on an Indian residential complex in Islamabad, it might owe its genesis also to, as South Block sources told TOI, Pakistan’s decision to block access to all Indian government websites (gov.in) in May 2017. Pakistan on Friday also pulled out of the WTO ministerial meeting which will be held in India next week.

Stating that the Indian government websites had opened only intermittently since then in Pakistan, official sources said as many as 5 note verbale (a form of diplomatic communication) had been issued to Pakistan to not block access to any Indian government website.

The first note verbale was issued on May 18 2007 and the latest one only earlier this week. According to Indian authorities, Pakistan has done this deliberately to not allow Indian diplomats and officials to access their own government websites. It, however, also meant that the Indian high commission was inundated with complaints from Pakistan nationals who said they were unable to access Indian visa forms.

"This has led to mushrooming of agents who have helped Pakistan nationals fill up visa forms through proxy servers,’’ said an official here, adding that this had also affected the normal functioning of the Indian mission.

Diplomatic sources said Pakistan has pulled out of the WTO ministerial meeting scheduled to take place here March 19-20 amid signs that the ongoing diplomatic standoff could worsen further. While the WTO meeting was always going to be a multilateral engagement, India's decision to invite Pakistan commerce minister Pervaiz Malik for the event was seen as an outreach to Pakistan and a sign of a possible thaw in the relationship. Malik was earlier said to have confirmed his participation.

India, in fact, issued another note verbale to Pakistan Friday saying that its diplomats and other officials were intercepted and harassed on 7-8 occasions in the past few days. Pakistan too issued a note verbale on Friday alleging that unidentified men intercepted the car of a senior diplomat, who was accompanied by his two minor daughters, and flashed torchlight at them. It reported 4 other incidents, taking the total number of cases of such alleged harassment and intimidation since March 7 to 30.

With no let up in incidents of alleged harassment of diplomats, India and Pakistan are struggling to ensure that there is no further deterioration in the bilateral ties in the next few weeks. Despite the fresh instances of harassment, diplomats from both countries downplayed Pakistan high commissioner Sohail Mahmood's visit to Pakistan for consultations with his government, saying it couldn't be seen as an escalation.

While Indian officials continue to maintain that all "genuine" allegations made by Pakistan high commission will be investigated, Islamabad has accused the Indian government of denying the "validity of its complaints".

According to Pakistan, while aggressive tailing has happened in the past two days, the "nature, scale and intensity" of recent incidents of alleged harassment by Indian authorities has never been witnessed before. In its latest note verbale, Pakistan said that despite the matter being brought to the attention of foreign secretary Vijay Gokhale, such incidents had continued.

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sanjaykumar wrote:This thread, like Pakistan, is descending into the ludicrous from the merely droll.


Is there anything in Pakistan more substantive than Imran Khan’s wives? [*]
[*] Sanjaykumar- ji:

Which one's do you mean:

-The Current "Peerni"
-The "BBC Weather Girl" masquerading as a journo.
-The Yahudi Billionaire
-Or The Common - Law Late Sita White :mrgreen:
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https://tribune.com.pk/story/1662370/1/ :D
Diplomatic standoff: Envoy ‘won’t return to India till ties improve’
In a development reminiscent of the 2002 standoff, Pakistan has decided not to send its high commissioner back to New Delhi until the overall situation improves and Indian secret agencies stop harassing its diplomatic staff and their families.“Our high commissioner will not return to India anytime soon,” said a senior foreign office official just hours after Sohail Mahmood returned from New Delhi on Friday.Initially, it was thought that he would return to New Delhi after consultations with relevant authorities on the continued harassment and bullying of Pakistani diplomatic staff and their families, including children by Indian secret agencies.However, the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told The Express Tribune that the high commissioner would stay back for an indefinite period or until Indian secret agencies stop intimidating the staff and families of their diplomatic mission in New Delhi.In other words, Pakistan recalled its envoy to New Delhi as a protest till the situation improves.Tensions between the two countries have been already running high because of frequent clashes between the Pakistani and Indian troops along the Line of Control (LoC) and the Working Boundary.But the latest diplomatic standoff will have far more implications if India also decides to recall its high commissioner from Islamabad.As many as 500 Pakistanis, who were supposed to travel to India on March 18, were not granted visas by the Indian High Commission in Islamabad.A Foreign Office official said the Indian High Commission didn’t even ask for the passports of the intending pilgrims, meaning they would not be traveling to Ajmer Sharif this year.
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Prem wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/1662370/1/ :D
Diplomatic standoff: Envoy ‘won’t return to India till ties improve’
In a development reminiscent of the 2002 standoff, Pakistan has decided not to send its high commissioner back to New Delhi until the overall situation improves and Indian secret agencies stop harassing its diplomatic staff and their families.“Our high commissioner will not return to India anytime soon,” said a senior foreign office official just hours after Sohail Mahmood returned from New Delhi on Friday.Initially, it was thought that he would return to New Delhi after consultations with relevant authorities on the continued harassment and bullying of Pakistani diplomatic staff and their families, including children by Indian secret agencies.However, the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told The Express Tribune that the high commissioner would stay back for an indefinite period or until Indian secret agencies stop intimidating the staff and families of their diplomatic mission in New Delhi.In other words, Pakistan recalled its envoy to New Delhi as a protest till the situation improves.Tensions between the two countries have been already running high because of frequent clashes between the Pakistani and Indian troops along the Line of Control (LoC) and the Working Boundary.But the latest diplomatic standoff will have far more implications if India also decides to recall its high commissioner from Islamabad.As many as 500 Pakistanis, who were supposed to travel to India on March 18, were not granted visas by the Indian High Commission in Islamabad.A Foreign Office official said the Indian High Commission didn’t even ask for the passports of the intending pilgrims, meaning they would not be traveling to Ajmer Sharif this year.

why did they not apply for the much easier and freely available Indian medical visas??

It just a mere tweet away and these visa are home delivered, no??.
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https://theprint.in/politics/nuclear-ar ... lls/42419/

looks like india has retaliated in same coin to the harassment of diplomats including one case of the children in a tit for tat way. predictably, TSP is whining now
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For years communal people in India have been demanding Pak envoy be send back. Even 26/11 was not able to do it.

Who would have thought it just required ringing envoy's door bell at 3 AM ! :rotfl:

The envoy must be cursing us. Now he has to go back to a beggar nation, missing all the fan following & parties he used to have in Luytens Delhi.
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Pakistan to skip WTO meet in New Delhi

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has decided to stay away from the World Trade Organisation meet in New Delhi next week in protest against alleged harassment of its diplomats in India.

India last month invited Pakistan Commerce Minister Pervez Malik to participate in the informal WTO ministerial meeting scheduled to be held in New Delhi on March 19-20 and Islamabad had initially accepted the invitation.

Sources in the foreign ministry here said the situation has changed after "repeated harassment of families of diplomats" and it was decided to skip the invitation.

"We cannot send our commerce minister to India in the current situation and India has been informed about it," according to a source.

He said India should also stop the alleged violations of the ceasefire on the Line of Control that led to death of civilians and also stop "atrocities" in Kashmir. At Last Modi Ji's Policy of VIGOROUS RESPONSE to Terroristan's violations of the Ceasefire on the Line of Control is SERIOUSLY HURTING THE TERRORISTANI PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW BEGGING THEIR GOVERNMENT TO STOP TERRORISTANI VIOLATIONS OF THE CEASE FIRE ON THE LINE OF CONTROL - JAI MODI JI - JAI BHARAT DESH HUMARA!

Trade ministers of over 50 nations including the US, China and Pakistan were invited by India to discuss issues related to agriculture and services.

The decision to stay away from WTO meeting in India coincided with the recalling of Pakistan's High Commissioner to India Sohail Mehmood.

Mahmood arrived here last evening for consultations after Pakistan alleged repeated harassment of its diplomats in New Delhi.

Meanwhile, Pakistan is weighing options to deal with the situation in the wake of calling back of its High Commissioner Sohail Mahmood from New Delhi due to alleged harassment of diplomats in India.

Mahmood arrived here a day after the Foreign Office spokesman said that he was being summoned for consultation "due to non-stop harassment of families of the diplomats".

Official sources in the foreign ministry said Mahmood will brief top officials about the situation.

"A decision to how address the situation will be made after the consultations," sources said.

They said that options were on the table including declaring New Delhi as a non-family station and not sending back Mahmood for an indefinite period.

Officials rejected allegations that Indian diplomatic staff were also facing hurdles and harassment in Pakistan.

"Our high commissioner will not return to India anytime soon," the Express Tribune quoted a senior foreign office official as saying.

It reported that initially it was thought he would return to New Delhi after consultations with authorities.

However, the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said that the high commissioner would stay back for an indefinite period or "until Indian agencies stop intimidating the staff and families of their diplomatic mission" in New Delhi.

"In other words, Pakistan recalled its envoy to New Delhi as a protest till the situation improves,"t reported.The Situation will NEVER IMPROVE UNTIL TERRORISTAN STOPS ITS Violations of the Ceasefire at the Line of Control!.

The official justified the move, insisting that under current circumstances it was not possible for the high commissioner to operate out of New Delhi.

"Children have never been harassed even when two countries have had the worst of relationship," he said.

When asked whether Pakistan was contemplating withdrawing the families of its diplomatic staff, the official said it might have to if the current slide in the relationship was not arrested. India could be So Lucky!

In Video: Pakistan stages another drama, pulls out of WTO summit in India

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chetak wrote:
Prem wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/1662370/1/ :D
Diplomatic standoff: Envoy ‘won’t return to India till ties improve’
chetak wrote:why did they not apply for the much easier and freely available Indian medical visas??

It just a mere tweet away and these visa are home delivered, no??.
chetak Ji :
If only the Government of India could STOP THIS MALE BOVINE FECAL DROPPINGS OF "PEOPLE TO PEOPLE" dealings with those of Terroristani Origin by way of Educational Scholarships, Medical Operations and Treatment etc. EXCEPT FOR RELIGIOUS PILGRIMAGES hoping that the Terroroistan Govt. in General and the ISI in Particular will improve its Relations by stopping the VIOLATION OF THE CEASEFIRE at the L.O.C. as well as the using its "Strategic Assets" - a Euphuism for Terroristani armed, based, housed, supplied and trained Terrorists - to perpetrate Terrorist Attack in India then may be the People to People Contacts will improve. Do you think that the G. I. O. have the inlintion to do so? In addition in my HUMBLE OPINION the Government of India should withdraw the India High Commissioner and any Deputy or other Diplomatic Offices along with the ALL THE STAFF in Terroristan.

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i used to think TSP has a housing complex in back of their embassy compound in delhi ... but maybe some live outside..usually pvt security guards would be on all such apts and for senior ones, their own embassy security....
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Paki Fauj Sends "Messenger To Massa" :mrgreen:

PM, Pence review Afghan peace push amid signs of thaw
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WASHINGTON: Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi had an unscheduled meeting with US Vice President Michael Pence here on Friday and their talks focused on finding a negotiated settlement to the conflict in Afghanistan, official sources told Dawn.
The sources said the 30-minute, one-on-one meeting took place at the vice president’s residence at the US Naval Observatory, which is close to the Pakistan Embassy in Washington. The meeting was held on Pakistan’s request.Michael Cutrone, special adviser to Vice President Pence for South Asian Affairs, attended the meeting as a note-taker. No US or Pakistani official accompanied the two leaders at this meeting. IMO, they are not interested in any "negotiated settlement ". They want "aid" resumend. Specially in these "tough" times . !
Later, the prime minister also had a 40-minute meeting with Congressman Ted Yoho, chairman of the House Committee on Asia and the Pacific, and its ranking Democrat, Congressman Brad Sherman.
Like Mr Pence, the US lawmakers also focused on the current situation in Afghanistan but they expressed “their concern about China’s growing influence in Pakistan” as well, sources told Dawn.While discussing bilateral relations, the two lawmakers conveyed their concern about blasphemy cases against Christians in Pakistan, the sources added. VP Pence is from the evangilical side of the Republican Party, so obviously he must have "conveyed" his views to the " messenger" send by the Fauj :mrgreen:
In the Pence-Abbasi meeting, both sides “explained their perspectives” on Afghanistan. The prime minister assured Mr Pence of Pakistan’s “sincere commitment” to efforts for peace in Afghanistan and also underlined “Pakistan’s successes” in the war against terrorism, the sources said.“The prime minister assured the US leader that no other state wants peace in Afghanistan more than Pakistan does, as it will be a direct beneficiary of this peace,” said a source. Why send a "tooth less PM" to negotiate with the US on Afghanistan. The fauj is responsible for policies on Afghanistan, China, India and US . So, at least Bajwa should have been included . :mrgreen:
Official sources in Washington said that the desire to continue the bilateral relationship was expressed at Friday’s meeting. Pakistan felt the need to request another meeting with Mr Pence because the last meeting had “moved things forward,” said one source.Other sources noted that recent “positive developments” also encouraged Pakistan to seek a meeting. They referred to several statements from both US civil and military officials, acknowledging that Pakis­tan has taken “some positive steps” for restoring peace to Afghanistan. US officials noted that Pakistan had been encouraging the Taliban to participate in the reconciliation process, as Washington desires. True to form, Pakistan is behaving like a typical "sleeping partner" . What "positive developments" encouraged Pakistan to seek a meeting is anybody's guess. Could be Pakistan's desperate financial situation :roll: .
Both Pakistani and congressional sources, however, were more open about the prime minister’s meeting with the lawmakers. According to them, the prime minister assured the lawmakers that “Pakistan’s close relations with China should not be a cause of concern for the US” as Islamabad “wants close friendly ties with both China and the United States.”
Prime Minister Abbasi arrived in Washington on Wednesday to be with his elder sister — not Senator Sadia Abbasi — who underwent a disc-surgery at a Washington hospital.
So, private visit "converted" into a government official business with Paki Taxpayers footing the bill in this difficult times :mrgreen:

THE ABOVE HAS TO BE READ IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BELOW TO MAKE SENSE . ABOVE SOURCE IS PAKI SOURCE. BELOW SOURCE IS MORE OBJECTIVE

Pakistan doing 'bare minimum' to help US: official
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WASHINGTON: Pakistan is doing the "bare minimum" to squeeze the Taliban and terror groups, a senior US administration official said Friday, despite Washington’s threat to freeze two billion dollars’ worth of aid.The official´s comments come as Pakistan is trying to avoid being put on a global watch list." The "sudden" meeting of the nominal PM with VP Pence has to be seen in this context !The Pakistanis have wanted to appear responsive" the official said on condition of anonymity, sketching out the need for increased pressure.
"They have done the bare minimum to appear responsive to our requests," the official added, citing the need to prod the Taliban toward the negotiating table and round-up militants."We continue to make very specific requests, and when provided with very specific information they have responded, but we have not seen them pro-actively take the steps that we expect and know they are capable of." What is preventing Gen Bajwa to come to Washington and thrashing out this matter directly with VP Pence instead of using the services of a middleman like Abbasi . After all, the fauj is in charge of Afghan Policy :mrgreen:
It is more than 200 days since President Donald Trump announced America´s latest strategy to win the long war in Afghanistan, focusing on pushing the Taliban to the negotiating table.The plan demanded :D Pakistan move against Taliban leaders who support a continuation of the war, under the threat of cutting US military assistance and Afghanistan coalition funding to Islamabad. But just the other day, the "loud mouth" FM of Pakiland Kh. Asif loudly said that "they do not need US Aid anymore " :roll:
"We didn´t think this would be easy," the official said. "We need to sustain the pressure." "I don´t think that we can just the efficacy of the strategy right now. We should give it more time, it deserves more time," the official added, suggesting an August anniversary of Trump´s strategy speech may be a good time to reflect
Members of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), an anti money-laundering watchdog based Paris, voted last month to place Pakistan on its grey list to give the country three months to make enough changes to avoid the listing. If Pakistan submits no Action Plan, or submits a "Sialkoti" ( Sham !) Action Plan at the end of June, it will have to be included in the Black List Of TASF with deadly consequences to its economy and to the Awaam :twisted:
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KP Govt Gets Tough On Hafiz Suar :roll:

KP govt seals JuD, FIF’s offices; seizes mosques and seminaries
PESHAWAR: The Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) government on Saturday sealed the offices of Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) and its charity wing, Falah-e-Insaniyat Foundation (FIF) besides seizing mosques and seminaries of the Hafiz Saeed-led foundation.The KP provincial administration, along with police and relevant law enforcement agencies started the operation against the organisation after receiving directions from the federal government. While talking to media, a senior official stated that the KP government has sealed off the offices of the foundation, seized three religious schools and two mosques and handed them over to the Auqaf Department to look after their operational matters.The move came after the Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (SECP) issued an order barring masses from donating to organisations listed on United Nations Security Council (UNSC) list of proscribed organisations. Hafiz Suar knows that this is all windowdressing; Deep State also knows that ; after a few weeks, months things will be back to normal :mrgreen:
Hafiz Saeed has been repeatedly accused by the US and India of masterminding the 2008 Mumbai attacks which killed 166 people. For his alleged role in Mumbai attacks, Saeed was declared a global terrorist by UN and US. :((
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If needed, forces can cross border to protect country: Rajnath

NEW DELHI: Blasting Pakistan for giving political legitimacy to terror mastermind Hafiz Saeed, home minister Rajnath Singh on Saturday said security forces can cross over the Line of Control, if needed, to protect country's territorial integrity.

Making it clear that Jammu and Kashmir will remain an integral part of India, Singh said the Narendra Modi government wants a permanent solution to the Kashmir issue and the interlocutor appointed by it was ready to talk to anyone who is willing to have a dialogue.

"We will not only secure India internally but can also cross border, if needed, to protect the country," he said at an event in New Delhi.

In September 2016, the Indian Army had carried out surgical strikes at the terror launch pads across the LoC and inflected significant casualties to avenge the terror attacks in Jammu and Kashmir.

The home minister said India wants to maintain friendly relations with Pakistan but that country was not keen for it, rather giving "political legitimacy" to LeT founder and 26/11 Mumbai terror attack mastermind Hafiz Saeed.

"Pakistan is now providing political legitimacy to a UN designated terrorist. Hafiz Saeed is now allowed to form a political party, he will contest elections and go to Parliament. Haqqani Network, which is responsible for killings of scores of people are being abeted and given protection. It is shocking," he said.

Singh, however, said Prime Minister Narendra Modi has achieved huge success in taking the fight against terrorism on international forum. Earlier nobody talked against Pakistan's terrorism, now the US has also condemned Pakistan, he said.

Referring to the appointment of the interlocutor, former Intelligence Bureau chief Dineshwar Sharma, on the Kashmir issue, the home minister said the interlocutor would talk to everyone who was keen for dialogue.

He said despite Pakistan's best efforts, Kashmir would never be separated from India. "Kashmir was with India, Kashmir is with India and Kashmir will remain with India forever," he said.

Singh said Kashmir's children were like his own and he would not allow anyone to radicalise them.

"I want to tell those who are trying to teach jihad to innocent Kashmiri youths that they should first learn the real concept of jihad in Islam," he said.

The minister said he had personally asked Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Mehbooba Mufti to ignore cases filed against the first-time stone-pelters.

Following Singh's request, the Jammu and Kashmir government had withdrawn cases registered against 9,730 people involved in stone-pelting incidents, including first-time offenders.

"We have forgiven first-time stone-pelters. They might have been influenced by others. They are young. We need to give them a second chance," he said.

Singh also highlighted the government's efforts in dealing with Maoists and the insurgents in the northeast.

He said the battle against Maoists can't be won through bullets and hence several developmental initiatives were taken in this direction.

"We are trying to reach those areas which have remained unreachable since independence. Naxalism was a huge problem for India but in the last four years we have achieved major success in that space," he said.

Singh said violence in the northeast has come down by 75 per cent in the last few years.
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Vivasvat wrote:The question which comes to mind is why is ISPR allowing these views against itself, and why was he not cut off and no break requested? The "afsar" sitting there never raised his voice. This was highly unusual.
Optics, my friend, optics.

The grand delusion of "freedom of speech" which every baki thinks he or she has in bakistan when they watch a paki TV shout fest. But, it is the freedom to remain free after "freedom of speech" has been exercised that should matter.
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Another Paki Editorial Cautions The "Security Establishment" Not To Expect Too Much Support From China In This Standoff .

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The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) would hold its summit in June in Qindao. In case the Indian PM attends the summit he is likely to meet Pakistan’s caretaker PM on the sidelines of the summit. The issue of Pakistan-India relations too is likely to be taken up. Instead of entertaining unrealistic expectations from its allies Pakistan should by now be wiser regarding how China sees some of the militant networks which continue to move freely in the country or are being mainstreamed. The security establishment needs to review its policy about these networks so that it is not short of options in case the issue of Pak-India relations is taken up at the summit.
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Singha wrote:i used to think TSP has a housing complex in back of their embassy compound in delhi ... but maybe some live outside..usually pvt security guards would be on all such apts and for senior ones, their own embassy security....
I remember frequently going past that embassy compound in the 60s and 70s because I lived in Chanakya Puri, and remember seeing those malsic domes.

Here. Baki HC guarded by kufr wimmen.

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chetak wrote:
chetak Ji :
If only the Government of India could STOP THIS MALE BOVINE FECAL DROPPINGS OF "PEOPLE TO PEOPLE" dealings with those of Terroristani Origin by way of Educational Scholarships, Medical Operations and Treatment etc. EXCEPT FOR RELIGIOUS PILGRIMAGES hoping that the Terroroistan Govt. in General and the ISI in Particular will improve its Relations by stopping the VIOLATION OF THE CEASEFIRE at the L.O.C. as well as the using its "Strategic Assets" - a Euphuism for Terroristani armed, based, housed, supplied and trained Terrorists - to perpetrate Terrorist Attack in India then may be the People to People Contacts will improve. Do you think that the G. I. O. have the inlintion to do so? In addition in my HUMBLE OPINION the Government of India should withdraw the India High Commissioner and any Deputy or other Diplomatic Offices along with the ALL THE STAFF in Terroristan.

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There is a very large vested interest at play here. Interests from lootyens dilli, many cities, in UP, WB, bihar, gujarat, hyderabad etc etc.

Property in thousands and thousands of crores are being "protected" by the active connivance of politicos, baboo(n)s, ex royals and their beneficiaries by paki lackeys in India.

It was finally the Modi govt that passed the enemy property law that was pending since independence thus showing the actual clout of the pakis in successfully holding off successive govts including that of ABA.

This is the actual and the self serving root of the "people to people" contacts that are being portrayed as being vital to the future of the two nations but in actuality, it is just a clever way of protecting their properties.

Ordinary pakis and Indians care a schitt for each other, busy as they are, engrossed in their individual battles for survival in their respective countries.

There is big money at play here as it will be where ever baboo(n)s and politicos are involved.

BTW, cheeni property is also covered under this law, hitting the cheeni very hard because if they go to war with us, all their properties, investments, bank deposits etc can be confiscated by the GoI. Modi's amended enemy property law gives jitters to China

They also seem to have a lot to say on this matter.
It says economic reforms introduced by PM Modi have made India an attractive investment destination but the amended law can scare away Chinese investors.

"...if the Enemy Property Act sparks alarm among Chinese investors and hinders India's efforts to make itself a sound investment destination, all these other attempts would have been in vain. To rebuild investor confidence, India requires legal reform. Confiscating assets left behind by people who took citizenship of China can easily ..
The amrekis and the brits also grabbed german property in the US and britan during the WWII




https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story/ene ... 2017-03-15
What is Enemy property act?

Any property belonging to or held on the behalf of the successors of those who moved to Pakistan or China during partition will have no right to claim what they left in India. Properties were earlier left with custodians.

After the Indo-Pak war of 1965, the 'Enemy Property Act' was enacted in 1968 in order to regulate these properties and keep a tab on the powers custodians have.

In 2016, the bill was amended and passed by the Lok Sabha but the Rajya Sabha passed the act on only yesterday after making more amendments.

|| Also read: Enemy Property Bill passed in Rajya Sabha amid Opposition walkout ||

This amendment bill is a law that has existed for the past 49 years.

Why amend the act?

To avoid any litigation and encroachments because of the original law, necessary amendments have been imposed on it.

What does it change?

No enemy property can be transferred to the heirs after the 2016 amendment.

The court rulings on any enemy property are now null and void.

No Indian heir belonging to the 'enemy' can claim property.

The maximum 'enemy' properties are situated in Uttar Pradesh, West Bengal, and Delhi. One of the cases that were prominent while considering amendments in the bill was the enemy property of Raja Sahib of Mahmudabad who was a famous politician and leader of All India Muslim League during the Pakistan movement.

He is said to have properties which cover half of Uttar Pradesh and Uttrakhand which the real heirs of Raja Sahib are claiming from India. Pakistan was also seeking monetary value of the property, but after the amended bill Pakistan can no more claim these properties.

Is it unfair?


When asked about whether this is a violation of human rights, Union Home Minister Rajnath Singh said if Pakistan can seize the properties of Indian citizens then this amendment will be natural justice.

Does it violate human rights in any way?

The legal tenants of the property will be protected under the Tenancy Act and does not violate any human rights. While many are supporting this decision, many analysts claim that this bill is unfair to the Muslim community.
As can be seen, just how high the pakis have reached to be able to defeat the GoI all these years and the same can be seen in some judicial pronouncements too. They were/are banking on being able to monetize their immovable assets in India and move the loot out. This is the crux of their cunning "people to people" connection ploy.

The paki middle classes have for some time now used the same cunning "people to people" ploy for their "medical" visas, the cost of most of such treatment in India is borne by some NGOs or "charitable" organisations.

Greedy doctors in India, many of whom are very reluctant to offer such services to bonafide and poor Indian patients, are doing this to be in the run for the padma shri/bhushan.

Very recently some big judge type sarcastically remarked about the govt not being allowed to pass laws just to negate court judgements.

Guess, if the congis ever come back, this law will be among the first casualties.

When wars broke out between India and China in 1962, and India and Pakistan in 1965 and 1971, the central government took over properties of citizens of China and Pakistan in India under the Defence of India Acts. These Acts defined an ‘enemy’ as a country that committed an act of aggression against India, and its citizens. The properties of enemies in India were classified as enemy property. The properties included land, buildings, shares held in companies, gold and jewellery of the citizens of enemy countries. The responsibility of the administration of enemy properties was handed over to the Custodian of Enemy Property, an office under the central government.

The Defence of India Acts were temporary laws that ceased to operate after the wars ended. To administer the enemy property seized during the wars, the government enacted the Enemy Property Act in 1968. This law laid down the powers of the Custodian of Enemy Property for management and preservation of the enemy properties.

Till date, about 9,500 enemy properties have been identified. A majority of them belong to Pakistani citizens from the time of the wars, and are valued at Rs 1,04,339 crore. Pakistan enacted similar laws to take over properties and assets of Indian citizens and companies in Pakistan during the wars. Unlike India, it sold off these properties in 1971.



The Enemy Property Act gave enemy citizens certain rights with respect to their properties vested in the Custodian. But the ambiguity in their rights and the powers of the Custodian to administer these properties resulted in disputes being raised before the courts. Some of these disputes related to Indian citizens challenging whether they could inherit enemy properties belonging to their ancestors who were nationals of enemy countries.

The Supreme Court settled some of these questions in 2005. It ruled that the Custodian of Enemy Property was administering the property as a trustee, and the enemy continued to be its owner. Therefore, on the death of the enemy, the enemy property should be inherited by their legal heirs.


In 2010, the government issued an Ordinance to expand the powers of the Custodian regarding enemy property. It sought to permanently vest enemy property in the Custodian even in case of the enemy’s death or a change in his nationality. However, the Ordinance lapsed.

The issue of enemy property attracted legislative interest again in 2016 when five more Ordinances were issued on the subject. These Ordinances went a step further and vested ownership rights over enemy property in the Custodian. This effectively negated the Supreme Court decision of 2005, and made the central government the owner of enemy property. While the first four Ordinances lapsed, the last Ordinance, issued in December 2016, has been replaced by the law passed by Parliament this week.


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Paki Ayesha "Dares To Proclaim" Hindu Heritage Of Pakiland In This " Op- Ed Piece" :roll:

Pakistan’s primordial Hindu heritage
Mashaal Gauhar
The election of 39-year-old Krishna Kumari as the first Hindu Dalit woman to occupy a place in Pakistan’s Senate shines a spotlight on Pakistan’s long-suffering Hindu minority. Escaping a life of forced labour, her rise to the forefront of Pakistani politics is nothing short of inspiring.
Beyond Sindh and across Pakistan, ancient Hindu empires have left their own special footprint: the Katas Raj temples in the Punjab, the Kalat Kali temple of Balochistan and the Raja Gira Fort in Swat are just a few enduring testaments to the land’s primordial Hindu past. Do Hafiz Suar and Maulana Diesel agree with this conclusion :roll:
With increasing sectarian strife and religious intolerance taking hold, it is all too easy to forget our shared heritage. The temples and Sufi shrines of the past are a reminder of the transience of this worldly life, our inescapable mortality and ultimately the grave error of discrimination and prejudice.The great Sufi Baba Fareed cautions us of how we are united in a common destiny, “In conceit, I have kept the turban on my head free of dirt, Forgetful that my very head is to be consumed by dirt one day.” In today’s polarised Pakistan, these words must not be forgotten. How did "Deep State" allow" this kind of a "propanganda op -ed piece" to subvert Paki minds :twisted:
PS: To keep up its fiction that all Pakis are descendants of Mughals, Turks , Persians and Afghans and are not "convert Hindus", Dr Subramanium Swamy have challenged them to under go a DNA test to settle this fiction once and for all ! No one has yet accepted this challenge yet . The above Paki Ayeshi has no hesitation in accepting this !
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More "Horse Trading" In The Works :mrgreen:

ECP to select caretaker PM
ISLAMABAD: After the stormy but contentious election to the top Senate slots, all eyes are now set on the next caretaker prime minister/chief ministers and the anticipated sweeping measures that these interim governments are likely to take to influence the general elections. So, "corrupt" Abbasi days are numbered :roll:
The possible target of such wide-ranging actions will be the losing party of the Upper House poll, and this is what is generally believed given the new political alignments that will have impact on the upcoming general elections. However, it may be quickly noted that in the past engineering and manipulation in the electoral process created dire consequences for Pakistan. Plan to make Ganja and his Party redundant to Paki politics , is going according to "Deep State" plan. :mrgreen:
The caretakers will have a maximum of 60 days – June and July – during which the parliamentary election is to be held and transfer of power to the new government will take place. However, two months are a long period to take several decisions of far-reaching nature. The elections are unlikely to happen before "everything" is according to the liking of "Deep State" !
Buoyed up with defeating their archrival, the PML-N, in the Senate election, the PPP and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) will team up in picking the premier, federal and provincial caretakers to sideline the preferences of their adversary. In this scramble, they will also try to attract the support of the “independents” from Balochistan and other smaller parties that backed them in the Senate chairman poll in a bid to isolate the PML-N in this crucial process. :roll:
The pretense is being maintained that the ECP is an independent body, while the fact is this is another tool in the hand of the deep state who will install the Party and the PM , which will do its "bidding" for another term :mrgreen:
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Chetak Ji,

Thank your for your “Detailed & Informative Post” above of 17 Mar 2018 20:14.

It is good that Modi Ji and his Cabinet are looking after India and the Common Indians’ Interests especially on the Terroristani Area despite the Interest of our so called Sickular and the Lutyenians Brigade – who you terms as “lootyens of dilli” mostly Congress walas. Also their Shenanigans. I wish Modi Ji and his CabinetVictory in his quest to protect from both China and Terroristan.

In my post of 17 Mar 2018 16:50, I had made the following Comment :

He said India should also stop the alleged violations of the ceasefire on the Line of Control that led to death of civilians and also stop "atrocities" in Kashmir. At Last Modi Ji's Policy of VIGOROUS RESPONSE to Terroristan's violations of the Ceasefire on the Line of Control is SERIOUSLY HURTING THE TERRORISTANI PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW BEGGING THEIR GOVERNMENT TO STOP TERRORISTANI VIOLATIONS OF THE CEASE FIRE ON THE LINE OF CONTROL - JAI MODI JI - JAI BHARAT DESH HUMARA!

I now draw your attention to the Article “Pak-India Relations” in Falijee Ji’s Post of 17 Mar 2018 19:33 :
Despite the offstage meetings between the National Security Advisers of Pakistan and India, a mitigation of hostilities between the two countries is nowhere in sight. The escalation by the Indian side from ‘talks over bullets’ to ‘talks and bullets’ has now reached the stage of ‘disproportionate bombardment’ with high caliber weapons and no desire for talks on the part of the Modi government. Recently Indian Army Chief Bipin Rawat threatened that Indian army was ready to call Pakistan’s ‘nuclear bluff’ and violate the border to carry out any operation inside Pakistan. Last week three UN observers narrowly escaped the Indian army’s attack along the LoC in AJK while two civilians were seriously injured in the incident. India is not willing for meaningful talks on Kashmir in return for calm borders and cracking down on anti-India terror groups in Pakistan. Meanwhile there being no end to the harassment of the Pakistan embassy staff in New Delhi, Islamabad has recalled its High Commissioner for talks. The relations between the two countries are continuing to deteriorate. The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) would hold its summit in June in Qindao. In case the Indian PM attends the summit he is likely to meet Pakistan’s caretaker PM on the sidelines of the summit. The issue of Pakistan-India relations too is likely to be taken up.
This now – to me – desperation and “Salwar Shivers” on the part of the Terroristani Establishment in General and the ISI in Particular. I hope I am not too optimistic in stating that something is “Going to Give” in the Terroristani Political Leadership as well as in the Terroristani Establishment.

I hope Modi Ji refuses to meet the Terroristani caretaker PM on the sidelines of the summit even if the Terroristani walks up to him like now disgraced and neutered Nawaz Shariff did an year or two ago.

Lets see how the Cocoon Spins!

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Prem wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/1662370/1/ :D
A Foreign Office official said the Indian High Commission didn’t even ask for the passports of the intending pilgrims, meaning they would not be traveling to Ajmer Sharif this year.
Good. No Ajmer Sharif and Khwaja Moinuddeen Chisti for Pakis, the Pakis cna stay in their wahabi-chini hellhole and sing peans to Khwaja Asif instead :lol:
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Prem wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/1662370/1/ :D
A Foreign Office official said the Indian High Commission didn’t even ask for the passports of the intending pilgrims, meaning they would not be traveling to Ajmer Sharif this year.
Bart S wrote:Good. No Ajmer Sharif and Khwaja Moinuddeen Chisti for Pakis, the Pakis cna stay in their wahabi-chini hellhole and sing peans to Khwaja Asif instead :lol:
Bart S Ji :

I foresee a "Huge" problem with the Terroristani Backlash of a similar Action against Indian Sikh Yatrees to Guru Nanak Dev Ji's JANAM STHAN.

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Terroristan - 4th Jan 2018

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Pakistan’s economy in no dire straits, says Ismail

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will have no issues in arranging foreign financing to meet its emerging needs, said Adviser to Prime Minister on Finance Dr Miftah Ismail, a day after the International Monetary Fund (IMF) said the country’s net international reserves, after excluding its foreign exchange liabilities, stand at negative $724 million.

In its first Post Programme Monitoring report, the IMF exposed the shallowness of the current gross official $12.1 billion reserves, which are largely maintained by double booking of reserves and taking Chinese deposits under the currency swap arrangements.

Ismail, while addressing the media on Friday, said IMF’s methodology, through which it arrived at the figure, is different.

“We accept their observations on the reserves (position) as they have a different methodology but we have no issues in arranging foreign financing to meet our emerging needs,” said Ismail.

The IMF said Pakistan’s foreign exchange liabilities were $13.5 billion as against its gross official reserves of $12.8 billion as of February 14, leaving it with negative $724 million as reserves.

Its report stated that Pakistan’s external financing would surge to $24.5 billion by June this year, adding the country’s needs were expected to rise to around $27 billion by the end of fiscal year 2018-19 (FY19) and would go up to $45 billion by FY23.

Ismail admitted that Pakistan’s gross official reserves included borrowing from commercial banks. “By this standard, Pakistan should also exclude total external debt from the reserves to work out net reserves,” said Ismail. :rotfl:

Circular debt and power sector

As liabilities on the power sector and tax refunds’ fronts cross Rs1.3 trillion, Ismail said the government did not have fiscal space to clear all these obligations before general elections – deviating from a commitment given by the former finance minister.

But the government would give Rs140 billion to the power sector within two weeks including Rs60 billion from the budget, said Ismail. He added that the government was also finalising a plan to give tax refunds.

“Alas! I had money” to clear all circular debt and tax refunds, said Ismail while responding to a question whether he would honour the commitment given by his predecessor about clearing financial obligations before the government ends its tenure.

Former finance minister Ishaq Dar had on many occasions talked about clearing all financial obligations by the outgoing federal government. He at one time proposed a Constitutional Amendment to bind an outgoing government to clear its fiscal mess. After assuming power, Dar had cleared Rs480 billion circular debt left by the PPP regime.

Ismail said the flow of circular debt was Rs514 billion and on Monday the government-owned Power Holding Private Limited (PHPL) would pay Rs80 billion. In addition, on the same day, the Ministry of Finance would release Rs30 billion as subsidy from the budget to retire circular debt. The adviser further said that in the following weeks, an additional Rs30 billion would be given from the budget, taking total injection to Rs140 billion.

For the current fiscal year, the government had budgeted power sector subsidies at Rs118 billion. It has already released Rs62 billion in the first eight months of the fiscal year. Ismail said that if needed, the government will also issue a supplementary budget to pay power sector subsidies on account of tariff differential claims.

He said that out of Rs514 billion, Independent Power Producers’ dues were only Rs215 billion including Rs70 billion owed to Pakistan State Oil. He said the net dues of the IPPs were only Rs162 billion, which the government will take care of.

The adviser said that Rs434 billion, parked in PHPL, also included debt contracted during the PPP era. He said that out of Rs80 billion that the PHPL would arrange an amount of Rs24 billion would go on paying the cost of interest on loans acquired earlier from the banks to retire circular debt.

Circular debt in the power sector alone has swelled to around Rs977 billion including money parked in PHPL.

Officials in the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) said outstanding tax refund claims are over Rs300 billion, although the government says the amount is only Rs150 billion against which it has issue Refund Payment Orders. It is not yet ready to acknowledge the un-reconciled refund claims.

Over Rs300 billion refund claims are part of the tax collection that the FBR reports on a monthly basis. In June 2013, the outstanding tax refund claims were Rs197 billion.

IMF report

The adviser also downplayed the IMF report and said that Pakistan was fully aware of its external debt related obligations, and it was not as big an issue as described by the IMF. He said that external debt payments capacity weakened due to contraction in exports for three consecutive years. The trend in exports has reversed and Pakistan’s external sector position would now start improving.

The adviser said that from the next fiscal year the trade deficit and the current account deficit would start to narrow down.

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Re: Terroristan - 4th Jan 2018

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Peregrine wrote:
Prem wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/1662370/1/ :D
A Foreign Office official said the Indian High Commission didn’t even ask for the passports of the intending pilgrims, meaning they would not be traveling to Ajmer Sharif this year.
Bart S wrote:Good. No Ajmer Sharif and Khwaja Moinuddeen Chisti for Pakis, the Pakis cna stay in their wahabi-chini hellhole and sing peans to Khwaja Asif instead :lol:
Bart S Ji :

I foresee a "Huge" problem with the Terroristani Backlash of a similar Action against Indian Sikh Yatrees to Guru Nanak Dev Ji's JANAM STHAN.

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Peregrine JI , Paki won''t do this but will call their Canadian, UK Khalistanis to reignite fire in Punjab.
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Re: Terroristan - 4th Jan 2018

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Prem wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/1662370/1/ :D
Diplomatic standoff: Envoy ‘won’t return to India till ties improve’

In a development reminiscent of the 2002 standoff, Pakistan has decided not to send its high commissioner back to New Delhi until the overall situation improves and Indian secret agencies stop harassing its diplomatic staff and their families.
Now, there are two possible outcomes of this threat.

First - Baki high commissioner returns, which would mean either of two events have occurred - the situation has improved and the inbreds are no longer being harassed (which are highly unlikely to happen), or bakis just ate crow and returned their HC.

Second - baki high commissioner does not return, which would mean that the situation has not improved and the inbred families continue to be harassed. This would imply that the baki families prefer to remain in India than return to their zoo, or India just pressed the right buttons.

Hmmm... let's see which scenario would benefit India the most....
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