https://twitter.com/joeyayoub/status/980098164748365824
IDF troops covering themselves in some shame here, preventing medics from treating injured people.
sometimes I feel these conscripts lack close supervision by officers and are left to own devices to do what they will .... much praised as a small unit initiative and gumption or maybe the top officials want some CYA if things head south and let the conscript take a fall if some heads be wanted.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/01/opin ... eft-region
Who Is a Turk? It’s Complicated
By Kaya Genc
April 1, 2018
ISTANBUL — Earlier this year, Turkey opened its closely guarded population register, a monumental archive of lineages going back to Ottoman times. A website that gives access to all public services in Turkey now includes a genealogy tab. Users can download ancestry documents, with records going as far back as 1882.
Since the appearance of the new service, roots, migration, purity and hybridity have dominated the conversation in WhatsApp groups, offices and tea shops. In just two days, over 5 million Turks went looking for their heritage on the register. Interest was so intense that for a few hours the website collapsed. The government was forced to stop the service for several days.
For a century, the Turkish state imposed a rigid national identity on its citizens, one that excluded ethnicity and underscored “pure” Turkishness. The government’s opening of its records has mesmerized people. As Turks absorb the news of their own ethnic diversity, the century-old idea of racial purity, manufactured and imposed by the state, has begun to crumble.
Some Turks, especially those whose families have lived in the same towns for generations, have found reaffirmation in the proof of their own deep roots. Others are frustrated. One Turkish nationalist learned that his great-grandmother was of Kurdish origin. A writer friend was surprised to discover her great-grandfather’s name was Isaac. One of my neighbors found out she had European roots and decided to apply for dual citizenship.
For a long time, ethnic identity was considered a matter of national security in Turkey. Most Ottoman Armenians lost their lives in forced deportations in 1915, while others converted to Islam to survive. Conversions were kept secret within families; many grandchildren of Christian converts learned of their ancestry as adults. Many Turks discovered they had Armenian family ties just recently.
The genealogy data is offered only for private use, and it reveals how meticulously the Turkish state has been keeping track of its citizens over the past two centuries. “It turns out my maternal ancestry is from Yerevan,” a user wrote on the website Eksi Sozluk, where thousands of comments have appeared on the issue. “My paternal ancestry meanwhile is Georgian. I am in shock.”
Turkish leftists were disturbed by the interest in genealogy, fearing it could lead to tribalism, even civil war. But the editor of the Armenian weekly Agos welcomed it. He interviewed an anthropology professor who called the move “revolutionary,” and “a serious sign of normalization” in debunking the imaginary ethnic purity of Turkish nationalism. Indeed, a 2012 study in the journal Annals of Human Genetics found that Turkey’s paternal ancestry was 38 percent European, 35 percent Middle Eastern, 18 percent South Asian and 9 percent Central Asian.
Ottomans dealt with the complexities of ethnicity through what they called the millet system. For centuries, different rules applied to Muslims, Catholics, Greek Orthodox and Jews. Religious communities could do business freely, and run their own schools, newspapers and hospitals so long as they paid taxes to the sultan. But in the 1830s, modernizers of the Ottoman Empire introduced a westernized concept of citizenship and did away with the millet system. A group of Muslim intellectuals, known as the Young Ottomans, fiercely opposed the reforms.
In the 1870s, the group introduced the concept of Ottomanism, promoting a single imperial citizenship that combined Islamic law with principles inspired by European constitutionalism. They propounded the idea of Muslim nationalism: Sunni Islam would be the sovereign identity, while granting freedoms to other religions. If the Sunni character of the state was lost, the Young Ottomans felt, the empire might disintegrate. Ottomanism was their formula to keep it intact.
As the pace of modernization increased in the early twentieth century, the problem of genealogical complexity snowballed: Secular and westernizing Young Turks and founders of the Turkish republic tweaked Muslim nationalism into a citizenship based on the French idea of laïcité, the separation of religious influence from government.
They tried to solve the problem of ethnic complexity, sometimes through force: A population exchange in 1923 resulted in the denaturalization of more than 1.2 million Greeks in Turkey and more than 300,000 Turks in Greece. The tiny number of Greeks and Armenians who continued to live in Turkey were told to forget their roots.
Over the 1940s, following the death of Atatürk, racist clubs in Turkey tweaked this nationalism further and forged a “pure Turkish” national identity. Turks, in their view, came from the plains of Central Asia, Kurds were “mountain Turks” and any other ethnic influences were considered deviant and dangerous. Both leftists and Islamists repudiated this combination of a mono-ethnic nation state and modernity, and the Kemalist state punished both groups. The Marxist poet Nazım Hikmet was sentenced to 28 years in prison; the Islamist thinker and poet Mehmet Akif Ersoy spent a decade in exile in Egypt for questioning Turkish nationalism.
Many nationalists have viewed Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s composite of conservatism and neoliberalism as a threat to Turkish national identity since his Justice and Development Party, known as the A.K.P., came to power in 2002. But Mr. Erdogan’s government was praised by others for allowing historians to openly discuss the history of Ottoman Armenians and for lifting restrictions on Kurdish culture.
Under Mr. Erdogan, national identity based on “pure Turkishness” has been gradually replaced by the Muslim nationalism of the Young Ottomans. Leaders of the A.K.P. believe that erasing religion and ethnicity from Turkey’s national identity would repeat the mistakes of the Ottoman modernizers in the 1830s.
By throwing open the population register, the Turkish government — unwittingly — might have changed our ideas of Turkish nationhood and ended the myth of racial purity for good.
The timing of the new access to the public’s ancestry is indeed part of a political calculation. In the wake of Turkey’s military operation in Afrin in northern Syria and with presidential elections coming in 2019, the government is hoping to further consolidate Muslim nationalism as the central Turkish identity.
It is the A.K.P.’s way of saying Muslim nationalism is different from republican nationalism: the state, in its new embrace of Islam, has the confidence to allow citizens to discover their ethnic roots. Turkish citizens can be proud of their heritage and roots, and even find there a rationale of the Turkish government’s foreign policy moves.
Dust-covered registry archives are meant to remind Turks not only of the broad diversity of their ancestors, but also of the territorial expanse of the Ottoman Empire, a dominion that once spanned three continents.
Who Is a Turk? It’s Complicated
By Kaya Genc
April 1, 2018
ISTANBUL — Earlier this year, Turkey opened its closely guarded population register, a monumental archive of lineages going back to Ottoman times. A website that gives access to all public services in Turkey now includes a genealogy tab. Users can download ancestry documents, with records going as far back as 1882.
Since the appearance of the new service, roots, migration, purity and hybridity have dominated the conversation in WhatsApp groups, offices and tea shops. In just two days, over 5 million Turks went looking for their heritage on the register. Interest was so intense that for a few hours the website collapsed. The government was forced to stop the service for several days.
For a century, the Turkish state imposed a rigid national identity on its citizens, one that excluded ethnicity and underscored “pure” Turkishness. The government’s opening of its records has mesmerized people. As Turks absorb the news of their own ethnic diversity, the century-old idea of racial purity, manufactured and imposed by the state, has begun to crumble.
Some Turks, especially those whose families have lived in the same towns for generations, have found reaffirmation in the proof of their own deep roots. Others are frustrated. One Turkish nationalist learned that his great-grandmother was of Kurdish origin. A writer friend was surprised to discover her great-grandfather’s name was Isaac. One of my neighbors found out she had European roots and decided to apply for dual citizenship.
For a long time, ethnic identity was considered a matter of national security in Turkey. Most Ottoman Armenians lost their lives in forced deportations in 1915, while others converted to Islam to survive. Conversions were kept secret within families; many grandchildren of Christian converts learned of their ancestry as adults. Many Turks discovered they had Armenian family ties just recently.
The genealogy data is offered only for private use, and it reveals how meticulously the Turkish state has been keeping track of its citizens over the past two centuries. “It turns out my maternal ancestry is from Yerevan,” a user wrote on the website Eksi Sozluk, where thousands of comments have appeared on the issue. “My paternal ancestry meanwhile is Georgian. I am in shock.”
Turkish leftists were disturbed by the interest in genealogy, fearing it could lead to tribalism, even civil war. But the editor of the Armenian weekly Agos welcomed it. He interviewed an anthropology professor who called the move “revolutionary,” and “a serious sign of normalization” in debunking the imaginary ethnic purity of Turkish nationalism. Indeed, a 2012 study in the journal Annals of Human Genetics found that Turkey’s paternal ancestry was 38 percent European, 35 percent Middle Eastern, 18 percent South Asian and 9 percent Central Asian.
Ottomans dealt with the complexities of ethnicity through what they called the millet system. For centuries, different rules applied to Muslims, Catholics, Greek Orthodox and Jews. Religious communities could do business freely, and run their own schools, newspapers and hospitals so long as they paid taxes to the sultan. But in the 1830s, modernizers of the Ottoman Empire introduced a westernized concept of citizenship and did away with the millet system. A group of Muslim intellectuals, known as the Young Ottomans, fiercely opposed the reforms.
In the 1870s, the group introduced the concept of Ottomanism, promoting a single imperial citizenship that combined Islamic law with principles inspired by European constitutionalism. They propounded the idea of Muslim nationalism: Sunni Islam would be the sovereign identity, while granting freedoms to other religions. If the Sunni character of the state was lost, the Young Ottomans felt, the empire might disintegrate. Ottomanism was their formula to keep it intact.
As the pace of modernization increased in the early twentieth century, the problem of genealogical complexity snowballed: Secular and westernizing Young Turks and founders of the Turkish republic tweaked Muslim nationalism into a citizenship based on the French idea of laïcité, the separation of religious influence from government.
They tried to solve the problem of ethnic complexity, sometimes through force: A population exchange in 1923 resulted in the denaturalization of more than 1.2 million Greeks in Turkey and more than 300,000 Turks in Greece. The tiny number of Greeks and Armenians who continued to live in Turkey were told to forget their roots.
Over the 1940s, following the death of Atatürk, racist clubs in Turkey tweaked this nationalism further and forged a “pure Turkish” national identity. Turks, in their view, came from the plains of Central Asia, Kurds were “mountain Turks” and any other ethnic influences were considered deviant and dangerous. Both leftists and Islamists repudiated this combination of a mono-ethnic nation state and modernity, and the Kemalist state punished both groups. The Marxist poet Nazım Hikmet was sentenced to 28 years in prison; the Islamist thinker and poet Mehmet Akif Ersoy spent a decade in exile in Egypt for questioning Turkish nationalism.
Many nationalists have viewed Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s composite of conservatism and neoliberalism as a threat to Turkish national identity since his Justice and Development Party, known as the A.K.P., came to power in 2002. But Mr. Erdogan’s government was praised by others for allowing historians to openly discuss the history of Ottoman Armenians and for lifting restrictions on Kurdish culture.
Under Mr. Erdogan, national identity based on “pure Turkishness” has been gradually replaced by the Muslim nationalism of the Young Ottomans. Leaders of the A.K.P. believe that erasing religion and ethnicity from Turkey’s national identity would repeat the mistakes of the Ottoman modernizers in the 1830s.
By throwing open the population register, the Turkish government — unwittingly — might have changed our ideas of Turkish nationhood and ended the myth of racial purity for good.
The timing of the new access to the public’s ancestry is indeed part of a political calculation. In the wake of Turkey’s military operation in Afrin in northern Syria and with presidential elections coming in 2019, the government is hoping to further consolidate Muslim nationalism as the central Turkish identity.
It is the A.K.P.’s way of saying Muslim nationalism is different from republican nationalism: the state, in its new embrace of Islam, has the confidence to allow citizens to discover their ethnic roots. Turkish citizens can be proud of their heritage and roots, and even find there a rationale of the Turkish government’s foreign policy moves.
Dust-covered registry archives are meant to remind Turks not only of the broad diversity of their ancestors, but also of the territorial expanse of the Ottoman Empire, a dominion that once spanned three continents.
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They come every Friday WITH children and stone armed Israeli soldiers and then are surprised when the soldiers respond. Further to that they have conveniently placed both cameramen and medics. What are the odds?Singha wrote:https://twitter.com/joeyayoub/status/980098164748365824
IDF troops covering themselves in some shame here, preventing medics from treating injured people.
sometimes I feel these conscripts lack close supervision by officers and are left to own devices to do what they will .... much praised as a small unit initiative and gumption or maybe the top officials want some CYA if things head south and let the conscript take a fall if some heads be wanted.
Watch Pallywod to understand better how some of these situations evolve,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_B1H-1opys
Situation in Kashmir is no difference with regards to these 'protesters' (AKA Stone Throwers)
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good comments by VKS here, who arrived with remains of 39 indians executed by isis near mosul
IBNlive trying to put a spin on it.....
New Delhi: VK Singh, the Minister of State for External Affairs, has said that all 39 Indians who were killed in Mosul went to Iraq illegally.
Singh arrived at Amritsar International airport on Monday along with the special aircraft carrying mortal remains of the deceased Indians. “We have been running a campaign through Ministry of External Affairs since 2014 to go abroad safe and trained. We have run a campaign to tell people not to go through illegal agents. One should not say so, but these 40 people had no record with any embassy, they went through an illegal agent. When you go through an illegal agent half the time we don't know who went where,” he said.
The minister who was addressing the media lost his cool when asked if the kin of the deceased will be given jobs. “This is not a game of football. Both the state and central governments are sensitive governments. The External Affairs Ministry had asked the families for the details of their members who can be given jobs etc. We will review,” he said.
On demands of compensation, Singh made another insensitive remark. He said that giving compensation is not the same as distributing biscuits. “Yeh admiyon ki zindagi ka sawal hai, aa gayi baat samajh mein? Main abhi elaan kahan se karoon? Jeb mein koi pitaara thodi rakha hua hai (This is about the lives of several men. How can I make an announcement? I don’t have a magic wand),” he said.
He also said that the families, who have been alleging they were kept in dark about the status of their loved ones, should not indulge in politics and perform the last rites peacefully.
“My suggestion to the families is that we have got back your people. Do their last rites. In our system, irrespective of religion, nobody rests in peace till their last rites are done. Don’t get involved in unnecessary politics,” he said
IBNlive trying to put a spin on it.....
New Delhi: VK Singh, the Minister of State for External Affairs, has said that all 39 Indians who were killed in Mosul went to Iraq illegally.
Singh arrived at Amritsar International airport on Monday along with the special aircraft carrying mortal remains of the deceased Indians. “We have been running a campaign through Ministry of External Affairs since 2014 to go abroad safe and trained. We have run a campaign to tell people not to go through illegal agents. One should not say so, but these 40 people had no record with any embassy, they went through an illegal agent. When you go through an illegal agent half the time we don't know who went where,” he said.
The minister who was addressing the media lost his cool when asked if the kin of the deceased will be given jobs. “This is not a game of football. Both the state and central governments are sensitive governments. The External Affairs Ministry had asked the families for the details of their members who can be given jobs etc. We will review,” he said.
On demands of compensation, Singh made another insensitive remark. He said that giving compensation is not the same as distributing biscuits. “Yeh admiyon ki zindagi ka sawal hai, aa gayi baat samajh mein? Main abhi elaan kahan se karoon? Jeb mein koi pitaara thodi rakha hua hai (This is about the lives of several men. How can I make an announcement? I don’t have a magic wand),” he said.
He also said that the families, who have been alleging they were kept in dark about the status of their loved ones, should not indulge in politics and perform the last rites peacefully.
“My suggestion to the families is that we have got back your people. Do their last rites. In our system, irrespective of religion, nobody rests in peace till their last rites are done. Don’t get involved in unnecessary politics,” he said
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first convoy has left douma for northern syria. its soon going to be all over.
the next batch of bandits is NE of ghouta in the rugged east qalamoun mountains . predictably without a beating, they are full of confidence and refused talks to leave or settle
https://muraselon.com/en/2018/04/the-la ... ns-report/
According to pro-opposition sources, The faction of the “Liberation Army of Sham”, rejected the negotiations with Russia in eastern Qalamoun.
Russia gave the Qalamoun factions three options: to hand over weapons and have statuses settled or to leave the region or to activate the military option and start a battle to get them out.
“The negotiations with the Russians began about six months ago,” said a spokesman for the Liberation of Syria, Nuros Rancus, adding that: “A committee from the region was formed to negotiate with the government and asked to be its commissioner for all factions.
The “Liberation Army of the Sham” was formed in March 2015, led by the dissident captain ‘Firas Bitar’, following the “Free Syrian Army” and its aim to fight the Syrian Army only.
The eastern Qalamoun are controlled by opposition factions, most notably the Jaish Al-Islam, the Martyr Ahmed al-‘Abdu, and Awsoud Al-Sharqiyah and have been in a truce with government for two years.
the next batch of bandits is NE of ghouta in the rugged east qalamoun mountains . predictably without a beating, they are full of confidence and refused talks to leave or settle
https://muraselon.com/en/2018/04/the-la ... ns-report/
According to pro-opposition sources, The faction of the “Liberation Army of Sham”, rejected the negotiations with Russia in eastern Qalamoun.
Russia gave the Qalamoun factions three options: to hand over weapons and have statuses settled or to leave the region or to activate the military option and start a battle to get them out.
“The negotiations with the Russians began about six months ago,” said a spokesman for the Liberation of Syria, Nuros Rancus, adding that: “A committee from the region was formed to negotiate with the government and asked to be its commissioner for all factions.
The “Liberation Army of the Sham” was formed in March 2015, led by the dissident captain ‘Firas Bitar’, following the “Free Syrian Army” and its aim to fight the Syrian Army only.
The eastern Qalamoun are controlled by opposition factions, most notably the Jaish Al-Islam, the Martyr Ahmed al-‘Abdu, and Awsoud Al-Sharqiyah and have been in a truce with government for two years.
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The militia of the Syrian city of Raqqa fired mortars on the US-led coalition base in the town of Ayn Issa, the press service of the movement said on Monday.
“Following the intelligence activities, the militia of Raqqa waged a special operation targeting the US Staff located at the former base of the 93rd Brigade in the district of Ayn Issa, 43 miles north of Raqqa. Several mortar shells were fired on individual targets without any casualties on our side,” the statement said.
The militia noted that they do not tolerate “the occupational forces” of the United States, Turkey, and their allies in northern Syria.
https://muraselon.com/en/2018/04/raqqas ... ern-syria/
“Following the intelligence activities, the militia of Raqqa waged a special operation targeting the US Staff located at the former base of the 93rd Brigade in the district of Ayn Issa, 43 miles north of Raqqa. Several mortar shells were fired on individual targets without any casualties on our side,” the statement said.
The militia noted that they do not tolerate “the occupational forces” of the United States, Turkey, and their allies in northern Syria.
https://muraselon.com/en/2018/04/raqqas ... ern-syria/
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VKS did a good job getting the lost indians back atthough it is not his fault they passed away !Singha wrote:good comments by VKS here, who arrived with remains of 39 indians executed by isis near mosul
IBNlive trying to put a spin on it.....
New Delhi: VK Singh, the Minister of State for External Affairs, has said that all 39 Indians who were killed in Mosul went to Iraq illegally.
Singh arrived at Amritsar International airport on Monday along with the special aircraft carrying mortal remains of the deceased Indians. “We have been running a campaign through Ministry of External Affairs since 2014 to go abroad safe and trained. We have run a campaign to tell people not to go through illegal agents. One should not say so, but these 40 people had no record with any embassy, they went through an illegal agent. When you go through an illegal agent half the time we don't know who went where,” he said.
The minister who was addressing the media lost his cool when asked if the kin of the deceased will be given jobs. “This is not a game of football. Both the state and central governments are sensitive governments. The External Affairs Ministry had asked the families for the details of their members who can be given jobs etc. We will review,” he said.
On demands of compensation, Singh made another insensitive remark. He said that giving compensation is not the same as distributing biscuits. “Yeh admiyon ki zindagi ka sawal hai, aa gayi baat samajh mein? Main abhi elaan kahan se karoon? Jeb mein koi pitaara thodi rakha hua hai (This is about the lives of several men. How can I make an announcement? I don’t have a magic wand),” he said.
He also said that the families, who have been alleging they were kept in dark about the status of their loved ones, should not indulge in politics and perform the last rites peacefully.
“My suggestion to the families is that we have got back your people. Do their last rites. In our system, irrespective of religion, nobody rests in peace till their last rites are done. Don’t get involved in unnecessary politics,” he said
He needs to be diplomatic while answering questions during sensitive time and not sound insesitive harsh or rude , Indian Press are typically chutiyas who will not know what to ask and when
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Good Information on the UAV ops done by Russians in Syrian Conflict
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... duce-ucavs
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... duce-ucavs
What compelled the military to change its mind was the Syrian war. Since Russian involvement began in October 2015, the intensity of Russian UAV flights over Syria has increased by 250 percent, from 400 flights per month to 1,000. The fleet in theater has reached 80 units, all being lightweight vehicles below 1,000 pounds gross weight. When Moscow announced the military defeat of the Islamic State forces in December 2017, the total number of flights by UAVs had reached 16,000 for a total duration of 96,000 flight hours, a figure that has now surpassed 100,000.
“With the help of unmanned air vehicles, we are monitoring the situation across almost the entire Syrian territory all-day, round-the-clock,” reported defense minister Sergei Shoigu. The chief of the Russian Armed Forces main operative directorate, General Sergei Rudskoi, added that every day 60 to 70 Russian UAVs carry out surveillance, reconnaissance, and electronic warfare flights over the war-torn country. He remarked, “In the past five years, we have made a big leap forward. Today, it is unthinkable to conduct successful combat operations without air drones.”
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So total duration of UAV flight till date exceeds 1 Lakh Hours and 60-70 UAV fly every day over Syria .......Thats a huge number to fly each day
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Tight Slap from DOJ to Erdgon
US to consider Islamist leader’s extradition to Turkey after getting documents
US to consider Islamist leader’s extradition to Turkey after getting documents
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The Yarmouk camp liberation from ISIS will be after the opposition factions leave Al-Reija square, Yalda, Bebla & Beit Sahem. Palestinian Groups will participate in the liberation, with Liwa Al Quds on their vanguard and assistance by the Russian air force.
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#Syria #Damascus
The Yarmouk camp liberation from ISIS will be after the opposition factions leave Al-Reija square, Yalda, Bebla & Beit Sahem. Palestinian Groups will participate in the liberation, with Liwa Al Quds on their vanguard and assistance by the Russian air force.
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Russian MOD: reported on the destruction in Syria of 17 UAVs created with the help of developed countries
https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content ... 3-nhsd.htmIn Syria, almost two dozen unmanned aerial vehicles, created with the help of developed countries, were destroyed. This was stated during a speech at the 7th Moscow Conference on International Security, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.
The head of the defense department specified that the UAV was equipped with ammunition. According to Shoigu, the destroyed drones could operate at a distance of up to 100 kilometers.
"Their (drones) creation is impossible without the technical assistance of developed countries. During the last three months, we destroyed 17 such vehicles, "the Russian Defense Minister stated.
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Looks like Armed UAV are now desperately used by Jihadis in last 3 months hit or miss
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i still don't understand how a nation as IT-saavy as India could have fallen so woefully behind in the realm of UAV's.Austin wrote:Good Information on the UAV ops done by Russians in Syrian Conflict
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Indian IT powers so far has been bottom-of-the-barrel kind of stuff. Do look at the IT thread.Y. Kanan wrote:i still don't understand how a nation as IT-saavy as India could have fallen so woefully behind in the realm of UAV's.Austin wrote:Good Information on the UAV ops done by Russians in Syrian Conflict
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It would have bloody expensive and tough to get so much equipment and money to dig and lay that tunnel network, it looks like Subway tunnel boring equipment and not a manual job.
The Syrian Soldiers looks clueless, neither could the Syrians dig and lay those tunnels were the Tactics and methods of the Syrian Arab Army. This looks like more of a direct USA- Russian conflict with both of them keeping Syrians as a cover to H&D and to keep things getting out hand.
Even the Grenade and RPG factory, there is just some last minute screwdrivergiri, the explosives used, the metal components etc, were all manufactured at some Deloped factory far away from the battlefield.
in the last 50 years countries which manufacture weapons are at peace int hier Homeland and countries which buy weapons are at war with being at the back foot.
Guess we need to move from Buyer to Manufacture with immese offensive capability if we are to have peace in our homeland.
The Syrian Soldiers looks clueless, neither could the Syrians dig and lay those tunnels were the Tactics and methods of the Syrian Arab Army. This looks like more of a direct USA- Russian conflict with both of them keeping Syrians as a cover to H&D and to keep things getting out hand.
Even the Grenade and RPG factory, there is just some last minute screwdrivergiri, the explosives used, the metal components etc, were all manufactured at some Deloped factory far away from the battlefield.
in the last 50 years countries which manufacture weapons are at peace int hier Homeland and countries which buy weapons are at war with being at the back foot.
Guess we need to move from Buyer to Manufacture with immese offensive capability if we are to have peace in our homeland.
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Dont understimate the Jihadis as they had good 5 years to do this work with generous support from Saudi/West.
The entire Israel-Palestinian/Hamas war has been fought along the lines of tunnel not just during conflict but during peace time to smuggle goods during embargo.
The entire Israel-Palestinian/Hamas war has been fought along the lines of tunnel not just during conflict but during peace time to smuggle goods during embargo.
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Assad's Fate Should Be Decided by Syrian People - Turkish Foreign Ministry
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2018 ... ia-people/
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2018 ... ia-people/
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Tx Austin for that link on the Ghouta incident.There's so much of manufactured propaganda that the truth is hidden in the "fog of war"!
The intensity with which Russia has intervened militarily in Syria and reach of its Kalibir missiles fired from small corvettes in the Caspian Sea has made the US back down.The threat to take action against the platforms attacking the Russian forces would mean that US naval forces including CBGs would be at risk.The sight of a few naval assets aflame in the Meditt. would be a major blow to US prestige as Russia does not have as many naval targets of opportunity compared with those of the USN.
The intensity with which Russia has intervened militarily in Syria and reach of its Kalibir missiles fired from small corvettes in the Caspian Sea has made the US back down.The threat to take action against the platforms attacking the Russian forces would mean that US naval forces including CBGs would be at risk.The sight of a few naval assets aflame in the Meditt. would be a major blow to US prestige as Russia does not have as many naval targets of opportunity compared with those of the USN.
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https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article ... inish-job/
Final battle starts between jaish al islam and saa
Est 5k to 10k gunmen are there with maybe 2k as the elite die hards who will not accept any deal
Final battle starts between jaish al islam and saa
Est 5k to 10k gunmen are there with maybe 2k as the elite die hards who will not accept any deal
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[quote="Singha"
Est 5k to 10k gunmen are there with maybe 2k as the elite die hards who will not accept any deal[/quote]
They shall be rewarded with their 72 virgin soon
Est 5k to 10k gunmen are there with maybe 2k as the elite die hards who will not accept any deal[/quote]
They shall be rewarded with their 72 virgin soon
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they are looking to extract a heavy toll before going down and hope to invite international intervention with lot of civilian deaths
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Unconfirmed Reports that #JAI has executed all the prisoners in Duma
And it was the reason behind re-launching the military campaign combined with bombardments.
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This rumor is being exchanged between the troops who are storming the city.
So i tend to believe it’s true unfortunately.
Plus if #JAI still has prisoners they would’ve put them on the buildings roofs in Duma to prevent any bombing at the city (they’ve done it before)
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Since day one of the negotiations #JAI used to bluff when it comes to the exact number of the prisoners.
And during the negotiations it was clear that most of the prisoners were dead by disease or while digging tunnels not to mention the torture that they faced.
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Unconfirmed Reports that #JAI has executed all the prisoners in Duma
And it was the reason behind re-launching the military campaign combined with bombardments.
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This rumor is being exchanged between the troops who are storming the city.
So i tend to believe it’s true unfortunately.
Plus if #JAI still has prisoners they would’ve put them on the buildings roofs in Duma to prevent any bombing at the city (they’ve done it before)
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Since day one of the negotiations #JAI used to bluff when it comes to the exact number of the prisoners.
And during the negotiations it was clear that most of the prisoners were dead by disease or while digging tunnels not to mention the torture that they faced.
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BEIRUT, LEBANON (12:40 A.M.) – The Jordanian regime has asked the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) to delay their upcoming Dara’a offensive in order to convince the rebel forces to reconcile with the government, a military source told Al-Masdar tonight.
The source added that the Syrian Army has agreed to respect Jordan’s request and will once again attempt to hold reconciliation talks with the militant groups in Dara’a.
Previously, the Syrian Army and Russian military sent a delegation to Dara’a to negotiate a reconciliation deal that was similar to the East Ghouta agreement; however, the rebels rejected offer.
The rebels then released a statement rejecting the offer and vowed to continue their fight against the Syrian government.
The source added that the Syrian Army has agreed to respect Jordan’s request and will once again attempt to hold reconciliation talks with the militant groups in Dara’a.
Previously, the Syrian Army and Russian military sent a delegation to Dara’a to negotiate a reconciliation deal that was similar to the East Ghouta agreement; however, the rebels rejected offer.
The rebels then released a statement rejecting the offer and vowed to continue their fight against the Syrian government.
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Need to bring this one to Syria for on field test ......Singha jee your toy
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Fake news of Chemical attack on last string hold of jihadi , Singha your prediction is right they are die hard jihadis and will die than surrender
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the outer defences of Douma have been overrun by concentrated attacks of armour and artillery, with men swarming in ... but long way to go yet.
Baghdad 'axis of resistance' Ops room - iranian, iraqi, russian and syrian staff officers/generals
Baghdad 'axis of resistance' Ops room - iranian, iraqi, russian and syrian staff officers/generals
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why not field deploy a few Armata vehicles as well both the tank and IFV....gets a few 1000km of tropical experience under the belt in the desert.Austin wrote:Need to bring this one to Syria for on field test ......Singha jee your toy
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with Douma on last legs , a predictable chemical attack by Assad occurred last night !
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I think they would it some day but not now as it’s under trials , running 10000 plus km would be good in Syrian desert and temperature terrain nothing can substitute real condition of actual warSingha wrote:why not field deploy a few Armata vehicles as well both the tank and IFV....gets a few 1000km of tropical experience under the belt in the desert.Austin wrote:Need to bring this one to Syria for on field test ......Singha jee your toy
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Singha wrote:the outer defences of Douma have been overrun by concentrated attacks of armour and artillery, with men swarming in ... but long way to go yet.
Baghdad 'axis of resistance' Ops room - iranian, iraqi, russian and syrian staff officers/generals
What is the ops room context and why are they there , is this for Syrian ops or Iraq ops
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13:52 In the British Foreign Ministry are concerned about reports of a possible hematoca in East Gut
12:00 Militants from "Jays al-Islam" asked for talks with Damascus on the Duma - Syrian media
11:31 The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation informs that on Sunday the withdrawal of irreconcilable militants from "Jaysh al-Islam" from the city of the Duma in East Gut
11:29 Russia supports the steps of the DPRK leadership aimed at inter-Korean rapprochement and establishment of direct dialogue with the US - Russian Foreign Ministry
11:02 Russian Defense Ministry denied reports that the Syrian army used chemical weapons in the city of Dumas
10:56 The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation informs that on Sunday the withdrawal of irreconcilable militants from "Jays al-Islam" from the city of the Duma in East Gut
10:13 More than 20 ceasefire violations recorded in Syria
10:10 Russian scientists, together with their European counterparts, will explore methods of combating icing of aircraft
09:41 In DNR they declare about shelling from the Ukrainian side
01:20 Easter service was held at the Russian airbase Khemeymim in Syria
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The Russian Defense Ministry reports that on Sunday the withdrawal of irreconcilable militants from "Jays al-Islam" from the city of the Duma in East Gut
04/08/2018 11:31:07 AM
(The expanded version)
Хмеймим. 8 April. Interfax-AVN - The Russian military reported plans to withdraw from the Duma Duma irreconcilable militants group "Jays al-Islam."
"Today begins an operation to withdraw from the Duma Duma irreconcilable militants grouping" Jaysh Al-Islam, "said the head of the Russian center for reconciliation of warring parties in Syria, Major-General Yuri Yevtushenko.
" The humanitarian corridor in the village of Muhayam Al-Wafedin continues work to ensure the safe exit of civilians from the city Council, "- he said.
on the eve of the Russian military said the militants" Jaish al-Islam "thwarted agreement and resumed fighting against the Syrian army in response, both Nakano said. not Yu.Evtushenko, the Syrian army launched an operation to liberate the Duma from the irreconcilable fighters.
On Saturday Yu.Evtushenko said that because of City Council in early March displayed more than 700 militants. "33345 people left During this period the city, including 29,217 civilians , 738 militants and 3,390 members of their families, "he
said.The city of the Duma is the last stronghold of militants in East Gut, with the militants of" Jays al-Islam. "They were negotiating the addition of weapons and transferring the city under the control of the government of Syria.
Earlier, from the eastern Guta to the de-escalation zone "Idlib", the Russian military took out the militants of the groups "Ahrar ash Sham" and "Failak Ar-Rahman."
All news for 08/04/2018
13:52 In the British Foreign Ministry are concerned about reports of a possible hematoca in East Gut
12:00 Militants from "Jays al-Islam" asked for talks with Damascus on the Duma - Syrian media
11:31 The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation informs that on Sunday the withdrawal of irreconcilable militants from "Jaysh al-Islam" from the city of the Duma in East Gut
11:29 Russia supports the steps of the DPRK leadership aimed at inter-Korean rapprochement and establishment of direct dialogue with the US - Russian Foreign Ministry
11:02 Russian Defense Ministry denied reports that the Syrian army used chemical weapons in the city of Dumas
10:56 The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation informs that on Sunday the withdrawal of irreconcilable militants from "Jays al-Islam" from the city of the Duma in East Gut
10:13 More than 20 ceasefire violations recorded in Syria
10:10 Russian scientists, together with their European counterparts, will explore methods of combating icing of aircraft
09:41 In DNR they declare about shelling from the Ukrainian side
01:20 Easter service was held at the Russian airbase Khemeymim in Syria
All news >>
Exclusives
Miroshnichenko A.M.Anatoly Miroshnichenko: "Omsk" Saturn "updates the production capacity for the production of new products for air defense and air defense systems"
Oleg FaustovDeveloper: exoskeleton will allow a fighter to shoot a machine gun with one hand
Alexander KrasovitskyAlexander Krasovitsky: We are ready to create a wheeled armored robot vehicle in the shortest time possible
Mikhail KorablevMikhail Korablev: "ERA-GLONASS" will help in any traffic situation
Exclusive Archive >>
The Russian Defense Ministry reports that on Sunday the withdrawal of irreconcilable militants from "Jays al-Islam" from the city of the Duma in East Gut
04/08/2018 11:31:07 AM
(The expanded version)
Хмеймим. 8 April. Interfax-AVN - The Russian military reported plans to withdraw from the Duma Duma irreconcilable militants group "Jays al-Islam."
"Today begins an operation to withdraw from the Duma Duma irreconcilable militants grouping" Jaysh Al-Islam, "said the head of the Russian center for reconciliation of warring parties in Syria, Major-General Yuri Yevtushenko.
" The humanitarian corridor in the village of Muhayam Al-Wafedin continues work to ensure the safe exit of civilians from the city Council, "- he said.
on the eve of the Russian military said the militants" Jaish al-Islam "thwarted agreement and resumed fighting against the Syrian army in response, both Nakano said. not Yu.Evtushenko, the Syrian army launched an operation to liberate the Duma from the irreconcilable fighters.
On Saturday Yu.Evtushenko said that because of City Council in early March displayed more than 700 militants. "33345 people left During this period the city, including 29,217 civilians , 738 militants and 3,390 members of their families, "he
said.The city of the Duma is the last stronghold of militants in East Gut, with the militants of" Jays al-Islam. "They were negotiating the addition of weapons and transferring the city under the control of the government of Syria.
Earlier, from the eastern Guta to the de-escalation zone "Idlib", the Russian military took out the militants of the groups "Ahrar ash Sham" and "Failak Ar-Rahman."
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the ops room was established a few months after the russians got involved in syria.
what they do is not clear. perhaps a forum for talks and co-ordinating strategy at the army level.
political leaders have their own channels.
what they do is not clear. perhaps a forum for talks and co-ordinating strategy at the army level.
political leaders have their own channels.
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Yo Assad, you just secured 90% of E. Ghouta. You've surrounded the last town, have overwhelming military force & negotiating surrender. What's next?
Assad: Launch a chemical attack of no tactical significance to provoke international outrage & military intervention against me.
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meantime the "assad curse" strikes DT now. 1 dead and some wounded in a fire in trump tower.
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Turkey has given the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and the Russian military group in Syria green light to capture the militant-held city of Jisr al-Shughur in the northwestern Idlib countryside and the militant-held al-Ghaab Plain in the northwestern Hama countryside, the Iranian news agency Fars reported on April 7.
According to the news agency, the decision regarding Jisr al-Shughur and the al-Ghaab Plain was made upon during a meeting between Russian and Turkish military delegations on April 6.
Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and its allies of the US-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA) captured Jisr al-Shughur on May 1, 2015. Few days after capturing the city, HTS kicked out the locals and replaced them with fighters of the Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP) and the Chechen Junud al-Sham.
Now, Jisr al-Shughur and the al-Ghaab Plain are the heartland of the TIP, Junud al-Sham and many other foreign Jihadi groups that are linked to al-Qaeda or ISIS. These two areas have been used as a foothold for attacks against the Russian Aerospace Force’s base in Hmeimim with Grad rockets and armed drones on many occasions previously.
Due to these threats, Syrian experts believe that securing Jisr al-Shughur and the al-Ghaab Plain is essential for securing the Syrian coast and Hama governorate. However, it is not clear yet when the SAA will be ready to launch a military operation in the area
Turkey has given the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and the Russian military group in Syria green light to capture the militant-held city of Jisr al-Shughur in the northwestern Idlib countryside and the militant-held al-Ghaab Plain in the northwestern Hama countryside, the Iranian news agency Fars reported on April 7.
According to the news agency, the decision regarding Jisr al-Shughur and the al-Ghaab Plain was made upon during a meeting between Russian and Turkish military delegations on April 6.
Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and its allies of the US-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA) captured Jisr al-Shughur on May 1, 2015. Few days after capturing the city, HTS kicked out the locals and replaced them with fighters of the Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP) and the Chechen Junud al-Sham.
Now, Jisr al-Shughur and the al-Ghaab Plain are the heartland of the TIP, Junud al-Sham and many other foreign Jihadi groups that are linked to al-Qaeda or ISIS. These two areas have been used as a foothold for attacks against the Russian Aerospace Force’s base in Hmeimim with Grad rockets and armed drones on many occasions previously.
Due to these threats, Syrian experts believe that securing Jisr al-Shughur and the al-Ghaab Plain is essential for securing the Syrian coast and Hama governorate. However, it is not clear yet when the SAA will be ready to launch a military operation in the area
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https://www.rt.com/news/423524-douma-ch ... ke-moscow/
moscow calls it fake news by white helmets and warns against intervention
moscow calls it fake news by white helmets and warns against intervention