adityadange wrote:NDTV link: IAF’s LCA Tejas for ‘The Flying Daggers’ squadron commences operations
Congratulations , two mirage 2K pretending to be Tejas in that article.
adityadange wrote:NDTV link: IAF’s LCA Tejas for ‘The Flying Daggers’ squadron commences operations
Khalsa wrote:Rakesh wrote:From the article above....
I was pleased with the light weight sun screen shelters they had started to roll out. But this just takes the cake.
Indranil wrote:At full production rate line 1 is supposed to produce 8 aircraft per year or one plane per 1.5 months. Correct? If it has been a month since SP9, aren’t you guys being a little impatient?
Indranil wrote:Yes sir, there are two lines. But,
1. The second line has not reached 4 aircraft per year rate yet.
2. The deliveries are not synchronized. You will see deliveries which are clustered together, like 3 aircraft in 1.5 months and then nothing for another 1.5. But, if you average it out at the end, you will see whether the necessary rate has been achieved or not.
ArjunPandit wrote:1. go there
2. or will stay in b'lore
3. or will go to a new sqn
Rakesh wrote:Tejas begins the sky party at AFS Sulur
https://english.manoramaonline.com/vide ... 11001.html
Video by Anantha Krishna of a walk around of the Tejas Mk1 fighter by Sqn Ldr Aditya Desai.
Neshant wrote:If you squint your eyes.. and use your imagination..
you can just about see what a twin engined & twin vertical stabilizer Tejas would look like
in this photo.
Rakesh wrote:Tejas begins the sky party at AFS Sulur
https://english.manoramaonline.com/vide ... 11001.html
Video by Anantha Krishna of a walk around of the Tejas Mk1 fighter by Sqn Ldr Aditya Desai.
SaiK wrote:Rakesh wrote:Tejas begins the sky party at AFS Sulur
https://english.manoramaonline.com/vide ... 11001.html
Video by Anantha Krishna of a walk around of the Tejas Mk1 fighter by Sqn Ldr Aditya Desai.
^^ he mentions the drop tank to be 1200 liters, and then can be loaded with 1000 pounder bombs/missiles. That would be around 2k lbs rounded. same mistik that got nasa's b@lls on one of the first mars lander where the brits metric system screwed up measurements.
Rakesh wrote:ArjunPandit wrote:1. go there
2. or will stay in b'lore
3. or will go to a new sqn
On #2 and #3, I believe all 40 aircraft (20 of No 45 Sqn and 20 of No 18 Sqn) will be at Sulur AFS.
ArjunPandit wrote:request everyone not to post Rajat Pandit's article here. It is full of non-sense arguments
Rakesh wrote:yensoy wrote:Google aerial photo shows 3 such hangars... wonder what's the plan here, production?
From the article above....The new hangars that have come up can accommodate 40-60 Tejas fighters at any given point of time.
Indranil wrote:SaiK wrote:^^ he mentions the drop tank to be 1200 liters, and then can be loaded with 1000 pounder bombs/missiles. That would be around 2k lbs rounded. same mistik that got nasa's b@lls on one of the first mars lander where the brits metric system screwed up measurements.
I think he meant the bombs are 1000 lb each. Tejas can carry two such bombs in tandem per pylon.
Dileep wrote:Why Sulur?
1. Just 30 minutes flight or 5 Hours drive away from HAL
2. Relatively empty airspace
3. Deep south, away from prying eyes.
4. Plenty of space.
Dileep wrote:Why Sulur?
1. Just 30 minutes flight or 5 Hours drive away from HAL
2. Relatively empty airspace
3. Deep south, away from prying eyes.
4. Plenty of space.
yensoy wrote:Dileep wrote:Why Sulur?
1. Just 30 minutes flight or 5 Hours drive away from HAL
2. Relatively empty airspace
3. Deep south, away from prying eyes.
4. Plenty of space.
And don't forget the huge amount of ancillary industry in the area which supplies HAL, and will be more important to HAL over the years as it scales up production.
Dileep wrote:yensoy wrote:
And don't forget the huge amount of ancillary industry in the area which supplies HAL, and will be more important to HAL over the years as it scales up production.
Means nothing for the squadron. They can't 'ride the cycle and pick up the spare part' from the ancillary unit so to speak.
ArjunPandit wrote:request everyone not to post Rajat Pandit's article here. It is full of non-sense arguments
Prasad wrote:Dileep wrote:Why Sulur?
1. Just 30 minutes flight or 5 Hours drive away from HAL
2. Relatively empty airspace
3. Deep south, away from prying eyes.
4. Plenty of space.
Perhaps we can see Tejas doing low level canyon runs in the hills of Ooty & Coonoor too.
Eric Leiderman wrote:http://idrw.org/iaf-may-take-over-tejas-project-from-hal-due-to-delays/#more-175228
Iaf will be at the apex in co-ordinaing ADA and HAL to get the desired airframes in the promised time frame.
This will be a 3 ring circus, It would have been better if the PMO took over this project and cracked the whip, this might lead to more infighting and blame game will continue as IAF is equally responsible for the delay in this project.
rohan1424 wrote:This is an interesting development going by the project history. The IAF never backed the Tejas project wholeheartedly and always had liking for phoren maal. Now the situation is such that they have no option left but to support it . The govt also has fully backed the project and given it a fresh impetus.HAl , which was content in screwdrivergiri also have no option but to support Tejas as su-30mki delivery is also going to end and there dream of continuing the screwdrivergiri with FGFA has come crashing down .The best option for both IAF and ADA/HAL is to make sure that the Tejas project is completed successfully in national interest.Tejas mk1, MWF and AMCA are critical to our defense preparedness.GoI should gradually involve pvt sector in defense development as the unprofessional work culture of HAl will do lot of harm which we cannot afford now .
yensoy wrote:No it means a lot for the ancillary industries to have access to real world flying specimens so they can refine the components and sub-assemblies. "Military Industrial Complex", literally.Dileep wrote:Means nothing for the squadron. They can't 'ride the cycle and pick up the spare part' from the ancillary unit so to speak.
souravB wrote:Mk1 in its design is not very production friendly, even the ADA director has confirmed it in so many words in his last interview a month or two back(I am sure I saw the link in BRF but cannot find it atm). HAL's babu attitude doesn't help too when it was required to put in more work. The problem is mitigated in Mk2.
IMO roping in IAF wouldn't help much in production schedule but let IAF have an eye over the process and integrate the changes in efficient manner without hampering the production.
chola wrote:
This is symtomatic of our design-development-production set up.
I think when designers at Boeing or Dassault come up with a new prototype, they are aware of what the company is capable of building and how they can build it efficiently at their company. These are design and development teams inside manufacturers. Designing something that the company can’t make efficiently is unprofitable and therefore pointless.
Do we have the same integration between ADA and HAL? There must be some but in the end they are two separate agencies. Does ADA even care about the manufacturing piece? Or like a lab project, they are more interested in getting to the specs with whatever means necessary? We know the LCA was designed with many foreign parts, many components that HAL can’t make. Production was delayed two years just waiting for the nose cone from the UK to be delivered by Cobham.
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