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In all this, what I have never figured out is the Kunduz Evacuation of 2002. Was that a transfer to KSA?
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Karthik S wrote:Not just pakis, even Iraqis hid their foxbats, their migs deserted to Iran (just few years after Iran Iraq war). Even other Arab forces did the same against Israelis.
would sattelite be able to take flying aircrafts. I suppose they can track fixed locations but what if they fly from say pakistan to UAE or KSA do we have sattelite intel there too?
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Pakis ban terrorist organizations.

https://twitter.com/DDNewsHindi/status/ ... 4660498433

They think they can get away with such tricks. I say again, they have failed to read this GOI.

But one thing is clear, irrespective of their bravado, they are shitting bricks.
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Leaked files: Pakistan tried to disrupt 2009 Indian elections too with major terror event

Leaked files: Pakistan tried to disrupt 2009 Indian elections too with major terror event

By Manu Pubby
Feb 20, 2019

NEW DELHI: Pakistan attempted to disrupt the last Indian national elections in 2009 too with a major terror event that was backed by heavy infiltration of Jaish and Lashkar terrorists from across the Line of Control, a leaked, top secret US government cable reveals.

Diplomatic sources fear that a similar plan may be unfolding ahead of the general elections this year as well with the Pulwana terror strike that has left the Indian government with no option but to respond with military action. There is also a belief that the attack bears the strong signature of a Pakistan ISI backed move to hit India and engineer a divide ahead of the elections.

A similar plot was being rolled off when the senior Indian leadership, including then National Security Advisor MK Naryanan briefed visiting US officials a week before elections in April 2009 that a dramatic increase had taken place in the number of terrorists crossing over and that it was inconceivable that “this escalation is not orchestrated by elements of the Government of Pakistan”.

“Narayanan and Menon (then foreign secretary) speculated that the upcoming (April 16-May 15) Indian national elections may be the proximate cause of the expanded cross-border efforts. A substantial terrorist event would both impact on the conduct of the elections (and possibly their outcome) and put enormous new pressure on the Indian government to respond in some major way,” the secret US cable that was leaked in August 2011 says.

The meeting between senior Indian officials and Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Holbrooke and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen took place on April 8, a week before elections started.

While it is not clear if the US managed to pressurise Pakistan adequately after the Indian diplomatic push but no substantive terror attack took place ahead of the 2009 elections that had the potential to disrupt the process.

A `non-paper’ (unofficial) was shared with the US delegation that detailed specific intelligence inputs, including satellite phone intercepts, interrogation statements and ground reports. “Indian expectations of a major terrorist event have increased and they are concerned that groups may have been successful in crossing into India undetected,” the leaked report reads.

Describing the substantive meetings with Indian officials, that included the Chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee Admiral Sureesh Mehta, the report said that infiltrations have been taking places with larger than normal groups and that the terrorists were `heavily armed, better equipped and better trained’ than before.

“Given the numbers of infiltrators, it is "inconceivable" to the Indians that this escalation is not orchestrated by elements of the Government of Pakistan….Indian expectations of a major terrorist event have increased and they are concerned that groups may have been successful in crossing into India undetected,” it says.

The Indian paper shared with US officials said that while in 2008, the total infiltration was 57, in the first four months of 2009, 94 terrorists infiltrated into the valley and that large groups of infiltrators from “Hizbul Mujahideen, Lashkare-Tayyaba and Jaish-e-Mohammad” were being pushed in.

“A group of 25 armed terrorists infiltrated from Tanagdhar area in Kupwara district, and were interdicted in two different forests Drangyari and Hafruda. The encounter lasted for 7 days, in which 18 infiltrators were killed and 8 army personnel, including 1 Major lost their lives. As none of the killed militants could be identified, it lends credence to the belief that they were Pakistani nationals,” the note said.

“The use of GPS, maps and compass indicates the high quality of military training being accorded to these terrorists. The terrorists were well prepared and carried butane gas cylinders to cut the fence, where required,” it reads.

India shared that the spurt of activities was noticed from the start of March 2009 and groups of terrorist camped up in the Haji Peer area of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. Also, that 281 terrorists were located at launching pads, waiting to cross in.
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DheerajG wrote:Diversion of water will take time. How about polluting the water flowing towards Pakistan by dumping toxic chemicals and waste, thereby, making it unfit for human and agricultural use? Is it even feasible? China too did the same thing with Siang river flowing towards Arunachal.
Yes, just shift leather tanneries from Kanpur to Jammu (where the Chenab flows into Pak). The Ganga gets cleaner and leather exporters have lower cost as GOI can waive the pollution control requirements.
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Fearing retaliation for Pulwama, PoK govt issues advisory to build bunkers
Muzaffarabad: Fearing reprisal from India in the wake of Pulwama suicide bombing in Jammu & Kashmir, Pakistan Occupied Kashmir’s (PoK) Disaster Management Authority on Thursday issued an advisory for the region’s residents to stay away from the Line of Control (LoC). The agency has advised people to shift to ‘safe locations’ and use ‘safe roads’ for transport.

In a war-like premonition, the agency has urged the citizens to build bunkers and make use of bunkers wherever available. The agency also advised people from gathering in groups and to avoid moving at night.
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TSP has banned JUD again. Time for another fancy name change.
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Dilbu wrote:TSP has banned JUD again. Time for another fancy name change.
Enough to placate unkil in return for pressure on India.
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Major shalwar browning amongst Paki mangos.. PAF conducting excersies.. looks like some Jets created a sonic boom and immediately a lot of soiled pants..
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Dilbu wrote:TSP has banned JUD again. Time for another fancy name change.
This will end our dreem of major attack. This is what i call kadi ninda. Next attack and the same story repeats. We have not learnd from history.
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madhu wrote:
Dilbu wrote:TSP has banned JUD again. Time for another fancy name change.
This will end our dreem of major attack. This is what i call kadi ninda. Next attack and the same story repeats. We have not learnd from history.
Do you take Doval and Modi to be imbeciles ? That because that pay boy PM banned now will mean anything?
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Seriously. We underestimate ourselves so much.

One sonic boom over Sialkot and Pakis have browned their shalwars.

I am hooked to Twitter for last few hours and seeing how Pakis are running around like headless chickens.

People of Pakistan believe in this GOI more than we Indians.
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Karthik S wrote: Do you take Doval and Modi to be imbeciles ? That because that pay boy PM banned now will mean anything?
Well now US and rest of world will put pressue on india not to take action but to go for talk. Hafiz will enjoy pak gov treatment for some time and will come out.
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PAF F16 flying around without the TFTA Aim120.

Looks like preserving their life.
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Gurus, on second thought, Sialkot is less than 40km from jammu. MKIs should have fired few BVRs as target practice.
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Imran Khan Holds National Security Meet Amid Heightened Indo-Pak Tensions
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan on Thursday chaired a key meeting of the National Security Council (NSC) during which the country's security situation was discussed, amidst heightened tensions between India and Pakistan following the Pulwama terror attack that killed 40 CRPF soldiers.
Ahead of the NSC meeting, Prime Minister Khan and Army chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa held a one-on-one meeting during which they discussed region's security situation, Pakistan-based Geo TV reported, citing sources.

Later during the NSC meeting, the Pulwama attack and situation arising out of it were discussed, the channel said, quoting sources.
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nam wrote:PAF F16 flying around without the TFTA Aim120.

Looks like preserving their life.
Nam where are you getting this info from ? Which handle ? Are Pakis broadcasting Solah's ?
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naird wrote: Nam where are you getting this info from ? Which handle ? Are Pakis broadcasting Solah's ?
Images from Pak fora and twitter from people living in Lahore.

Within 15 mnts of the sonic boom, the news was all over internet! With videos of PAF jets flying around!

If the ballon goes up, it will one hell of a fight on... internet :rotfl:
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Deans wrote:
DheerajG wrote:Diversion of water will take time. How about polluting the water flowing towards Pakistan by dumping toxic chemicals and waste, thereby, making it unfit for human and agricultural use? Is it even feasible? China too did the same thing with Siang river flowing towards Arunachal.
Yes, just shift leather tanneries from Kanpur to Jammu (where the Chenab flows into Pak). The Ganga gets cleaner and leather exporters have lower cost as GOI can waive the pollution control requirements.
oh yes and will take care of article 35a & 370
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.............pooof...................
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Shivaji wrote:Seriously. We underestimate ourselves so much.

One sonic boom over Sialkot and Pakis have browned their shalwars.

I am hooked to Twitter for last few hours and seeing how Pakis are running around like headless chickens.

People of Pakistan believe in this GOI more than we Indians.
Kindly share the handles to watch....its a slow day..could do with some entertainment.
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from OP INDIA

Pakistanis get scared about attack by India after seeing their own Air Force fighter jets flying over civilian areas

https://www.opindia.com/2019/02/pakista ... ian-areas/
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Just head over to some Pak fora, but please dont drag that stuff here, unless something serious/credible.

Have to echo Shivaji, massive shalwar browning.
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Sanju wrote:
Shivaji wrote:Seriously. We underestimate ourselves so much.

One sonic boom over Sialkot and Pakis have browned their shalwars.

I am hooked to Twitter for last few hours and seeing how Pakis are running around like headless chickens.

People of Pakistan believe in this GOI more than we Indians.
Kindly share the handles to watch....its a slow day..could do with some entertainment.
No specific ones sir. Searching for specific keywords and trends and then following responses. #Sialkot is trending.

One more thing to observe is the glee with which Indians are responding to Pakis. They are enjoying to be on giving end.
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Karan M wrote:Just head over to some Pak fora, but please dont drag that stuff here, unless something serious/credible.

Have to echo Shivaji, massive shalwar browning.
What happened to 1 paki TFTA mujahid = 10 kafir soldiers.
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Seen tweets from pak on armor being moved to the east. Not sure if its accurate.
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shyamd wrote: Quick response -
IRGC attack and Pulwama are linked. Both atrocities committed by ISI but for different reasons

Regional context is that of pre Iran nuke deal era.. Obama planning on Af-Pak exit and 26/11. Attack India via terror and complain of being victims - take money from PRC and other donors, use to fight India and send terror groups to fight new enemy India enabling smooth exit of US.

GoI security establishment unanimous on above view, particularly mil establishment.

Saudis using TSPA as the insurance policy... KSA are working on getting their own bomb (see latest reports of Saudi ballistic tests, Trump transferring nuke tech etc).

KSA paying off India as well not to attack TSP - as KSA want TSPA free to defend Makkah/Madinah as per Pak constitution (Yemen issue) and deal with nuclear Iran as everyone worries that Iran will go back to developing weapons.
In the end no one trusts the general and the cricketer in the Gulf. They see the cricketer as pro Tehran (in his interview on English Channel - he said KSA wants him to act as go between to reach peace with Tehran)

There’s an opposite argument to Rudradev ji’s View... e.g. does anyone even listen to state dept at the moment?

Anyway, ISI gave up some members of cell who targeted IRGC - as Iran was preparing to mount operations and started moving aircraft etc.

But IAF team checking out Chabahar air base - think SAR, Strike missions, ISR, possible air & sea blockade.
Just to add
So the cricketer asked CP Salman to convey to PM Modi:
- to have a direct channel via KSA
- IK will investigate Pulwama incident
- PM Modi can trust IK

Doval given this file I believe
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A muslim has written this article published in the caravan magazine where people like hartosh singh bal work.

the article is motivated and in extremely bad taste

the sample size is between 40-50

and this is what they mean by FOE.

these guys have actually called up the affected families and in the very hour of their grief, they have questioned them about their caste.

Can such creatures be anymore vile and depraved??


45 of our Jawans are martyred in the line of duty and all these journalists and intellectuals are concerned about is that this tragedy and India's response to it will help Modi secure another term.

Even here - EVEN HERE - these psychopaths cannot think beyond Modi. VILE.
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It takes a very twisted mind to go through the list of martyrs & find out what caste or religion they were.

What kind of political leaning, however vile, permits this? Ajaz Ashraf, you are an enemy of this nation. And so are your masters.

Shame.

Urban upper-castes driving Hindutva nationalism have little representation among Pulwama’s slain jawans
Urban upper-castes driving Hindutva nationalism have little representation among Pulwama’s slain jawans

AJAZ ASHRAF
21 February 2019

The wreath-laying ceremony of the CRPF jawans who were killed in the Pulwama attack was held in Srinagar, on 15 February 2019.
The attack in Pulwama has spawned a nationalistic fervour rarely seen since the 1999 Kargil war. In the deadliest militant attack that Kashmir has ever witnessed, 49 jawans of the Central Reserve Police Force were killed, when a suicide bomber drove a car filled with explosives into a security convoy, on the Jammu-Srinagar highway in Pulwama, on 14 February. While senior CRPF officials confirmed the deaths of 40 jawans, the media reported that at least nine others later succumbed to their injuries. The Indian government subsequently accused Pakistan of scripting the bloodshed in Pulwama. In the days since the attack, residents of metropolitan cities across India have held vociferous protest marches and news channels have been mulling possible methods of punishing Pakistan.

Underlying the feverish display of nationalism by the urban middle-class, comprised predominantly of upper-caste Indians, is an irony that few have paid attention to—the lower-caste poor account for most of the deaths. I tracked the caste background of the 40 CRPF jawans whose deaths were confirmed immediately after the attack. While the names of a few jawans revealed their respective caste identities, for those bearing caste-neutral last names, I spoke with their family members on telephone numbers registered with the CRPF. I also determined the caste identities through conversations with journalists who covered the jawans’s cremation; local politicians; social activists; sociologists; and by scanning media reports.

The 40 jawans were primarily from lower-caste communities. In all, they comprised 19 jawans from Other Backward Classes (or backward castes), seven from Scheduled Castes, five from Scheduled Tribes, four from upper-caste backgrounds, one high-caste Bengali, three Jat Sikhs, and one Muslim. So, only five out of the 40 jawans, or 12.5 percent, came from Hindu upper-caste backgrounds. This figure bears out a truism starkly visible in India at present—the Hindutva nationalism of the urban middle-class, largely spearheaded by right-wing groups, conveniently exploits the sacrifices of the downtrodden.

Two among the slain jawans, Sanjay Rajput and Nitin Shivaji Rathod, both of whom resided in Maharashtra, were from the Vimukta Jatis community, which is identified as a socially and educationally backward caste and included in the central OBC list for Maharashtra. Rajput, however, was unable to secure a caste certificate, and qualified for the CRPF through the general category. Excluding Rajput and the Muslim jawan, only eight, or 20 percent, joined the CRPF through the general-category quota.


The 40 jawans came from 16 states across India. Five of the eight in the general category were from Uttarakhand and Punjab. Of the two CRPF jawans from Uttarakhand, one was a Brahmin and the other a Rajput, and three out of the four casualties from Punjab were Jat Sikhs. The three other jawans from upper-caste communities comprised two Brahmins from Uttar Pradesh, and one Sudip Biswas from West Bengal, whose brother-in-law, Samapta Biswas, told me that his family is neither Brahmin nor Scheduled Caste, “but higher caste.”

Samapta made it a point to clarify the family’s social identity because the name “Biswas” is used by several castes. He said that he and others in the family are wage labourers based in the district of Nadia, in West Bengal. Samapta noted that the family feels compelled, at times, to migrate out of Nadia to find work, and that Sudip’s salary used to serve as comforting insulation in times of financial despair.

Maninder Singh Attri, a member of the Ramdasia sect, which is classified as a Scheduled Caste community, was the fourth jawan from Punjab who died in the Pulwama attack. His cousin, Sunil Dutt, told me that Attri’s family possesses land measuring less than one-fourth of an acre, and that the slain jawan’s younger brother also serves in the CRPF. “Dalits lacking in resources and social security opt for risky jobs such as security forces and sewer cleaning,” Dutt, a human-rights activist based in Dinanagar in Punjab’s Gurdaspur district, told me. “Isn’t it strange that those who are raising the slogan of nationalism live in comfort and their children do not have to make sacrifices for the nation?”

Dutt added that even the Jat Sikhs who opt for the security forces do so out of compulsion to earn a livelihood, because many in the community work as marginal farmers. His words were borne out in the case of Kulwinder Singh, one of the Jat Sikh jawans from Punjab who joined the forces to support his family. Singh’s father, Darshan, said the family owned less than two acres of land. “Kulwinder’s mother is in such a terrible state,” Darshan said.

While the fervour of nationalism grips the country, the families of some of the deceased soldiers feared that their sorrow and misery would soon be forgotten. Rubi Devi, the wife of Shyam Babu—one of the slain jawans from Kanpur Dehat, in Uttar Pradesh, who was a member of a Scheduled Caste community—was sniffling and choking with emotion when I spoke to her. Devi said that after a stream of visitors came to pay their respects on the first two days after the attack, her house is now desolate, and she has been left alone to endure her sorrow. When I mentioned that national leaders had promised not to forget the sacrifices of CRPF jawans, her voice turned steely as she said, “Bolne mein aur kaam karne mein bahuut antar hota hai”—There is a huge difference between saying something and doing it.

The family of Mahesh Kumar, a jawan who hailed from the Tulidhar village of Uttar Pradesh’s Prayagraj district, underwent a similar experience. Mahesh’s uncle, Sushil Kumar Yadav, told me that Anupriya Patel, the minister of state in the ministry of health and family welfare, and Rita Bahuguna, a cabinet minister in the Uttar Pradesh government, came calling on the family after the attack. Since then, however, the nation has moved on to chanting slogans on the streets. “We cannot shut them up, we only have our sorrow to drown in,” Yadav added.

Yadav said that the least the state government could do is to rename the Tudihar gram sabha after Mahesh and give a job to his younger brother, Amresh. A pugnacious Yadav noted, “If Allahabad’s name can be changed to Prayagraj, why cannot they rename our gram sabha as Mahesh gram sabha? It is the best way of keeping alive his memory. After all, don’t they say the Pulwama martyrs will not be forgotten?”

Twelve of the 40 jawans who died in Pulwama were from Uttar Pradesh, and they included two Brahmins, three from Scheduled Castes and seven from OBC communities. Sudhir Panwar, a spokesperson of the Samajwadi Party, noted, “Chest-thumping nationalism of TV studios conceals the grim reality that it is the peasant and lower castes of rural India who die to protect the country.”

Panwar’s comments are true of other states as well. Five of the CRPF jawans who died were from Rajasthan—three of them were Gujjars, one was from the Meena community, which is classified as a Scheduled Tribe, and one was a Jat. Two CRPF jawans from Tamil Nadu died in Pulwama, one of whom was a Parayar, a Scheduled Caste, and the other was a Thevar, an OBC community. The one death from Karnataka was of a Madiwala, or dhobi caste, jawan. Two jawans from Odisha died—respectively, from a backward caste and a Scheduled Caste. The pattern is overwhelmingly similar across India.

“The CRPF has reservation,” Satish Prakash, an academic and Dalit activist based in Meerut, said. “It is the reason why the people who died were overwhelmingly Bahujan.” The word “Bahujan” means majority and is used to denote individuals from non-upper and high-caste groups. “It is they who lay their lives for the nation,” Prakash said. “It exposes how bogus the argument for not extending reservation to the Armed Forces is.”

According to Paramjit Singh Judge, a professor of sociology at the Guru Nanak Dev University, in Amritsar, such Hindutva nationalism subsumes the story of caste and class because of the role it plays in politics. “Nationalism has a functional role in electoral politics,” he said. “For instance, the Bharatiya Janata Party knows that Dalits are not inclined to it. A deliberately crafted hyper nationalism helps combine people across class, caste and religion.”

The BJP has not spoken of the caste and class dimensions of those jawans who died in Pulwama. It is unlikely to do so—the party prefers to orchestrate the song of nationalism in the election year.
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Amrullah Saleh's take on paki blackmail
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Feb 20

Amrullah Saleh Retweeted Idrees Zaman

Pakistani ambassador to Kabul has warned that if India retaliates the Kashmir terror attack his country would take revenge from Afgh. This is an act of blackmail, bullying & cowardice. Dear India we are able to take care of ourselves so don't bow to terror and do what is right.
Idrees Zaman:
Today @mfa_afghanistan summoned Pakistani ambassador and handed him a diplomatic démarches, in protest to his latest statement quoted by Reuters. We will issue a formal statement with details shortly!
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some people are floating theory that IAF jet or ground Radar would have locked onto jets over Sialkot, therefore the paki pilots hit afterburners and broke sonic boom over a city. Quite possible, as I don't think fighters performing CAP will go supersonic over a city.
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Wow what is the point of the article? Since Bahujan literally means majority, why wouldn't the bahujan-ness be reflective in the CRPF and sequentially in the numbers of martyred?

Also I thought Muslims were part of the Bahujan... I'm pretty sure India's Muslim ratio is much greater than 1 in 40. We need to seriously start calling out all these articles where Muslims insert themselves along with certain Hindu jaatis. Even in the so called cow lynching cases, I always see conflation of Muslims with Dalits.
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Pakistan Bans Hafiz Saeed-Led Jamaat-ud-Dawa And Its Charity Wing

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Karthik S wrote:some people are floating theory that IAF jet or ground Radar would have locked onto jets over Sialkot, therefore the paki pilots hit afterburners and broke sonic boom over a city. Quite possible, as I don't think fighters performing CAP will go supersonic over a city.
In that case, I hope they have special equipment to hose down them F-16 seats
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chetak wrote: article published in the caravan magazine
Some one wants to play dirty. . Partition happened and mulsims went to pak, but still Wakf board controls most of the lands in India. How is that possible?

If Pakistan is real estate exchange b/w Hindus and Muslims, then how come muslims still hold Wakf lands? Who fooled who?

p.s. sorry for off-topic.
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BTW in a case of fratricide, a paki mujahid pilot fired a missile and shot down his wingman. :lol:
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imo the bland statement by Gadkari ji about india going to fully use the IWT waters in our share would have caused an impact equivalent to 1000 x HSLD in Pindi. they cannot even complain and whine about it but their agri which had bloomed on our water is going to take a major hit.

Gadkari ji has a track record of delivering, its not a idle statement or hawa mein teer fire karna.
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Re: Pulwama Attack

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If you know its offtopic, why post it here? @chetak ji, dont give the oxygen of publicity to rags like Caravan. These are not commercial enterprises, but propaganda outlets to propagate the views of White money-bags, foreign governments, because really.. If they dont tell the brown folk how to feel, how will the brown folk ever be civilized? In the ultimate calculate, they do not matter, except perhaps as convenient foils for counter propaganda.
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Re: Pulwama Attack

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You guys dont understand the toxicity the left has in India. Full of so called "atheist, liberal" descriptors, these guys are often batting for their own angle and are anything but liberal, these leftists take great pride in having the likes of Ashraf et al, dump on Indian interests and demean Hindus. Many of these chaps are almost completely brainwashed and beyond redemption.

Tend to simultaneously post poems about poor soldiers (trying to imply officers send soldiers to their death) and secondly, constantly post atrocity literature about how "savarnas" oppress everyone else etc. Several agree with comments like "hows the jaish" and cannot openly express their views because the hoi-polloi will see through them. So, instead they 24x7 post atrocity literature about Hindus who are fanatical, casteist etc. I know people kicked out of oh-so-innocuous book reading clubs etc on social media because they posted messages against atrocity literature, in favor of the army! How dare anyone imply the army is not a feudal organization exploiting its soldiers.

They loathe Modi with a visceral passion, because he should have been one of "them", how could he betray the "movement" and spearhead nationalism. Unfortunately Modi has done nothing to crack down on them either. He left them alone, with a belief that they'd come around and appreciate his good work (naivete? strength? graciousness?) but they have become even more virulent in turn, taking it as validation that they are too strong to be touched.

BJP has displayed nothing but absolute cowardice when dealing with these folks. Hence, stuff like this is to be expected.
https://twitter.com/Jangid/status/1098545016773865473

For all the talk of "enemy of the nation" where are the GOIs lawyers to file a case to show this is intended to maliciously divide the society at a time when unity is required?

Yet the MOD can hire enough lawyers to engage in fisticuffs with veterans over pension benefits.

This inability or lack of desire to take on the Nehruvian apparatus head on is arguably Modis biggest and only real mistake.
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Re: Pulwama Attack

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India has decided to stop the flow of its share of water to Pakistan from rivers under the Indus Water Treaty, a move seen as an immediate fallout of deadly terrorist attack that killed 40 paramilitary personnel in south Kashmir...But the actual implementation of the decision may take up to six years as dams as high as 100 metres will have to be built to stop such flow.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... aign=cppst
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