AMCA News and Discussions

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Rakesh » 23 Feb 2019 04:13

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1098821123716698113 ---> ADA's target right now is to get the first AMCA tech demonstrator airborne by 2025. The second one will follow in six months.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Karan M » 23 Feb 2019 06:59

Can you guys stop referencing Philip's posts. He is not to post on this thread due to his past antics and the more you respond to rubbish, more you will have spam on the thread.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Rakesh » 23 Feb 2019 07:02

I have deleted both mine and souravB's posts. Sorry Karan.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Karan M » 23 Feb 2019 07:20

Rakesh to clarify..not referring to you or the other more serious posts, sorry about any confusion.. i meant all the stuff about fit and finish etc which was just unnecessary. And Philip as usual almost wrecked the thread with his rants. Don't want him to come and finish it off.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby SaiK » 23 Feb 2019 08:38

some of the pics and the walk-around video doesn't seem to connect well for me. my eyes are getting old

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby sankum » 28 Feb 2019 01:59

Aeromag show daily 1

Interview-Dr. Girish S. Deodhare Programme Director, Combat Aircraft & Director, ADA

We needed a higher thrust engine for AMCA which is currently not available. So, while developing a higher thrust engine, in the meantime we are going ahead with the existing engine that is used for Mark-2 which is the GE414. The design project has already been sanctioned. In about 7 years, we are planning to complete AMCA with GE414 right up to certification. This includes the stealth part too. We are aiming at four prototypes. Subsequently, this will be up-scaled with the new higher thrust engine.

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Re: Tejas Mk2 Medium Weight Fighter: News & Discussion - 23 February 2019

Postby dkhare » 08 Mar 2019 05:07

Yeah, I saw the latest models of the AMCA and saw actuators under the wing. Damn.

So when looking at this drawing of the AMCA:

Image

1. In the top view, at the wing's trailing edge corner, that is not an actuator for the flaps between the fuselage and wing flaps?
2. In the front view, no actuators visible at all. They show the smallest notches on the tail but not the actuators on the wing seems odd.

So, are the AI 2019 models accurate or this engineering drawing that were released a while ago? Who knows...

Sorry Mods, I know off topic - will carry on in the AMCA thread.

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Re: Tejas Mk2 Medium Weight Fighter: News & Discussion - 23 February 2019

Postby Rakesh » 12 Mar 2019 04:00

dkhare wrote:....will carry on in the AMCA thread.

I moved your above post to the AMCA thread. Thank You.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Karan M » 13 Mar 2019 15:06

Notes Uttam has 150km range for 2sq mtr RCS. Hence, around 130km for 1 Sq Mtr, and 190 km for 5 sq mtr. Its a fairly decent radar and if LRDE introduces LPI modes, it can be very potent in the A2A arena.
We really need to have them upscale it for the Su-30. I wonder why the IAF has not already asked them to do so, time is of the essence.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Kartik » 13 Mar 2019 23:46

Karan, that 150 km detection range for a 2 sqm RCS target is with 750 TRMs, right? Any idea if that is for the Tejas Mk2 sized radome or for the AMCA?

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Raveen » 14 Mar 2019 00:00

SJha just tweeted an interesting development about the AMCA

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby esommuk » 14 Mar 2019 00:11

Rolls-Royce pulls out of Turkish Fighter TF-X programme. BAE systems is still engaged and will be involved in production of TF-X. BAE might not be a good choice for vetting AMCA design given the fact that Turkey is pretty close to Pakistan.

https://www.ft.com/content/164c5ee0-3d1 ... 761f19a974

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Karan M » 14 Mar 2019 01:27

Kartik wrote:Karan, that 150 km detection range for a 2 sqm RCS target is with 750 TRMs, right? Any idea if that is for the Tejas Mk2 sized radome or for the AMCA?


Tejas Mk1 sized radome.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Rakesh » 14 Mar 2019 04:42

Raveen wrote:SJha just tweeted an interesting development about the AMCA

Is it this? Please, next time just provide the tweet....

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1105774556680085504 ---> And btw, don't be surprised if in the next Aero India, you see an Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft model with something akin to an electrical-optical distributed aperture system being displayed.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Thakur_B » 14 Mar 2019 06:56

Sometime back there was an image from aerodynamic studies for AMCA and what appeared to be divertless supersonic intakes. Looks like the AMCA designers are trying out all options before fsed kicks in.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Khalsa » 14 Mar 2019 13:27

esommuk wrote:Rolls-Royce pulls out of Turkish Fighter TF-X programme. BAE systems is still engaged and will be involved in production of TF-X. BAE might not be a good choice for vetting AMCA design given the fact that Turkey is pretty close to Pakistan.

https://www.ft.com/content/164c5ee0-3d1 ... 761f19a974


I think Turkey's economy officially went into recession.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47522338

Stay away from the sick man of Europe.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby SaiK » 17 Mar 2019 01:23

Not that this brings anything new to discuss, but a reference good to have (if not already linked here)

https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2019/ ... ngine.html

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby SaiK » 30 Mar 2019 10:29

https://aviationweek.com/combat-aircraf ... ch-program
107kN dry thrust, 115kN wet.

we might as well focus on this:
https://defence-blog.com/news/japan-dis ... craft.html

x-posting in MRCA for ref

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Austin » 30 Mar 2019 11:38

Looks very F-22 ish

I wonder why they still use a Big VS instead use a smaller all moving one like PAK-FA or J-20

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby sankum » 15 Aug 2019 19:54

Super cruise abilities to fly at supersonic speeds minus the afterburner, passive sensors, internal ...

Read more at: https://english.manoramaonline.com/news ... ments.html


Diverter less supersonic intake.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby ArjunPandit » 16 Aug 2019 15:28

quoting key things from the above article
On the AMCA (Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft), Dr Reddy said technologies like pilot associate, advanced avionics, body conrming-shared aperture, serrated doors, IR paints and high-temperature radar absorbing paints for nozzles are being launched in India


Super cruise abilities to y at supersonic speeds minus the afterburner, passive sensors, internal weapon bay, advanced integrated avionics, next-gen AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) radar, 360 degree enhanced situation awareness, IVHM (Integrated Vehicle Monitoring System), serpentine air intake, IRST (Infra Red Search and Track), MAWS (Missile Approach Warning System) and Diverterless Supersonic Intake (DSI) are among the new technologies that would get embedded on to AMCA.

He said on the Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle (UCAV) front India will use the derivative of Kaveri engine.

whats happening on it, we have been hearing it for quite some time..

“We have begun the R&D of 50 kW DEW, including ship motion compensation. The laser propagation studies for long range (10 km) is on, including lethality study for various target materials. The bigger goal of development of a 100 kW system in future also has taken wing,”

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby VinodTK » 19 Aug 2019 07:48



Interesting views on Stealth / J20 :) / AMCA
As per the discussion the maintenance cost of stelth aircraft is very high;
If PAF gets the J20's from China the maintenance cost will kill them

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby brar_w » 19 Aug 2019 07:52

VinodTK wrote:If PAF gets the J20's from China the maintenance cost will kill them


You're joking right? There is no way the PAF is going to get the J-20 from China anytime in the next decade or even beyond that. They are broke and cannot afford it and even if they could, I doubt China would export the J-20. And yes, first gen. stealth effort is going to be a learning curve for China..It will take multiple iterations over decades though naturally it would be a shorter learning curve compared to US where it was a pioneering effort. Biggest myth floating around on Chinese projects is that stealth, advanced electronics, and high T2W ratio propulsion comes without a learning curve..In reality it is a multi-decade effort to develop, master and refine the capability from a technological perspective and then a similar learning curve on the operational concept and system employment perspective. There is no substitute for hard engineering, development, testing, rate production, and incorporating feedback from years and decades of use back to improve the product.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Rakesh » 19 Aug 2019 21:55

Well said Brar about the learning curve. Fully agree.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby ashishvikas » 30 Aug 2019 17:49

Security Scan - AMCA- Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

https://youtu.be/PlNlj-HpbDk

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Bart S » 30 Aug 2019 18:49

ashishvikas wrote:Security Scan - AMCA- Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

https://youtu.be/PlNlj-HpbDk


First flight in 2032 :eek:

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby JayS » 30 Aug 2019 19:04

So much blah blah in that video.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Prasad » 30 Aug 2019 21:00

First flight was supposed to be before 2030.

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Re: AMCA News and Discussions

Postby Rakesh » 30 Aug 2019 21:03

If someone can get me an official source of the first flight date, I will start a new thread along the lines of the Tejas threads.


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