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Can't remember the last time the GoI released such information and in so much detail about these matters. Something or some other intel input(s) is/are unpalatable and someone has got their langotes in a really tight twist either in India or SL, and the amerikis have also publicly disassociated themselves from this entire intel warning to SL snafu

Or is it simply because its election season and the Govt is sending a very very pointed message to a specific minority that this govt just saved their arses.



India sent alerts to Sri Lanka about possible terror attack after NIA probe into IS module targeting south Indian leaders

India sent alerts to Sri Lanka about possible terror attack after NIA probe into IS module targeting south Indian leaders

Apr 24, 2019

New Delhi: Intelligence inputs regarding a possible terror attack in Sri Lanka were shared by Indian agencies with their Sri Lankan counterparts earlier this month after the National Investigation Agency completed its probe into an Islamic State-inspired module planning to kill prominent leaders in South India, officials said here.

The input was sent through diplomatic channels to the island nation after a thorough investigation pertaining to the IS case in Coimbatore was carried out by the NIA, which has filed a charge sheet against seven people.

India sent alerts to Sri Lanka about possible terror attack after NIA probe into IS module targeting south Indian leaders
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During investigation, the probe team had stumbled upon videos of National Thowheed Jamaat (NTJ) leader Zahran Hashim, which was indicative of a terror attack on the Indian High Commission in Colombo.

After further investigation which included cyber trailing of some of the accounts associated with the IS, the central security agencies shared an input with their Lankan counterparts about the churches being the likely target of the ISIS module, they said.

Over 350 people were killed in Sunday's serial blasts at churches and hotels. The videos, seized from the accused in the Coimbatore case, showed Hashim asking youths from Sri Lanka, Tamil Nadu and Kerala to establish an Islamic rule in the region.

The arrested accused, who have been charge-sheeted since then, include Mohamed Ashiq A, Ismail S, Samsudeen, Mohammed Salauddin S, Jafar Shadik Ali and Shahul Hameed.

The case was originally registered at B3 Variety Hall Police Station, Coimbatore City on 1 September last year and pertained to the criminal conspiracy hatched by the accused with the intention of furthering the objectives of the proscribed terrorist organisation IS by targeting Hindu leaders and activists, who are critical of religious terrorism.

The NIA investigation showed that the arrested persons had got radicalised on the violent extremist ideology of the IS and they had been propagating the same ideology over the social media.

With the intention of furthering the objectives of the terrorist organisation IS in India, the accused had organized themselves into a terrorist gang in June 2018 and conspired to further the activities of the group by carrying out terrorist attacks targeting persons critical of the proscribed terrorist organisation and its violent extremism ideology.

The accused in Coimbatore case were in touch with Hashim for being enrolled in the IS terror group. Though the investigation in the case are complete, the officials did not rule out the possibility of questioning all the six accused again in case some evidence suggested that they had any knowledge about the blasts in Sri Lanka
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The brothers lived in 6 bedroom mansion worth 2 mil usd with its own gym and fleet of luxury cars

Like uday and qusay hussein, the younger was openly radical the older who owned the copper factory was a controlled calm family man with 4 kids and a fifth on the way. He was married to sister of a weathy jewelry trader who blew herself up with the kids and foetus so a ready to roll bomb was kept inside the house

The young brothers wife went with him on suicide mission
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https://swarajyamag.com/insta/sri-lanka ... de-bombers

Looks like the whole family was running terror ops. They traced the Buddhist shrine attack in Jan also to them. The billionaire father is in custody.
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NDTV

An explosion occurred in a town east of the Sri Lankan capital, Colombo, on Thursday but there were no casualties, a police spokesman said. Spokesman Ruwan Gunasekera said police were investigating the blast on empty land behind the magistrate's court in Pugoda, 40 km.
"There was an explosion behind the court, we are investigating," he said, adding it was not a controlled explosion like other blasts in recent days.
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Timer mis set.
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chetak wrote:Can't remember the last time the GoI released such information and in so much detail about these matters. Something or some other intel input(s) is/are unpalatable and someone has got their langotes in a really tight twist either in India or SL, and the amerikis have also publicly disassociated themselves from this entire intel warning to SL snafu

Or is it simply because its election season and the Govt is sending a very very pointed message to a specific minority that this govt just saved their arses.
You are right - in this context, also read :

https://www.firstpost.com/world/sri-lan ... h-execute-

As pointed, a few things just don't seem to add up on the official SL narrative, especially from Sirisena's office. He states that he was not informed, yet there appears to be a record of a security council meet headed by him a few days after the Indian warning on 04 April.
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Hari Nair wrote:
chetak wrote:Can't remember the last time the GoI released such information and in so much detail about these matters. Something or some other intel input(s) is/are unpalatable and someone has got their langotes in a really tight twist either in India or SL, and the amerikis have also publicly disassociated themselves from this entire intel warning to SL snafu

Or is it simply because its election season and the Govt is sending a very very pointed message to a specific minority that this govt just saved their arses.
You are right - in this context, also read :

https://www.firstpost.com/world/sri-lan ... h-execute-

As pointed, a few things just don't seem to add up on the official SL narrative, especially from Sirisena's office. He states that he was not informed, yet there appears to be a record of a security council meet headed by him a few days after the Indian warning on 04 April.
if sirisena admits he would have to resign won't he ? more likely they decided to ignore an actionable Indian intelligence input because it came from India and therefore not likely? .. or they just messed up big time , unforgivable
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kit wrote:
Hari Nair wrote:
You are right - in this context, also read :

https://www.firstpost.com/world/sri-lan ... h-execute-

As pointed, a few things just don't seem to add up on the official SL narrative, especially from Sirisena's office. He states that he was not informed, yet there appears to be a record of a security council meet headed by him a few days after the Indian warning on 04 April.
if sirisena admits he would have to resign won't he ? more likely they decided to ignore an actionable Indian intelligence input because it came from India and therefore not likely? .. or they just messed up big time , unforgivable
The SL politicians and especially their security setup are not given to messing up such things. I just cannot buy this explanation.

They have all learned their lessons the very hard way and they have gone up against some very tough and devious opposition like the ltte and have still come out tops. Such critical and vital organizational muscle memory cannot easily be lost or even sidelined. It has indelibly permeated all levels.

I still think that it was a regime change play that went pearshaped because the SLs who got the warnings and suppressed it became overconfident of controlling the narrative to suit their own agenda.

The sacked SL top officials were terminated from service and will face criminal prosecution and it is not like in India, where sacked means being quietly reassigned to another equally cushy appointment, where you went to the office in one chauffer driven govt car, got "sacked" during the course of the day and were driven home in another chauffer driven govt car belonging to your "new" department.
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cant help but put few words...
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India giving warnings ( many times )
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even though Sl forces capture and torture our fishermen... ???
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colombo gazette::

A suspect has been arrested with a map of the access road to Parliament and Parliament passes, the Police said.

The suspect was arrested in Balangoda after his house was searched.

According to the Police, the suspect had in his possession several mobile SIM cards, three mobile phones, bullets and credit cards.
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CNN

Meanwhile, a huge international criminal investigation is ramping up in Sri Lanka, with six foreign police agencies and Interpol assisting local police, including Scotland Yard from the UK and the FBI from the US.
Gunasekera told CNN that officers from Sri Lanka's Criminal Investigation Department (CID) and Terrorism Investigation Department (TID) have raided five safe houses across the country in connection with Sunday's attacks. Those locations have since been sealed for forensic investigation.
More than 70 suspects have been taken into custody on a range of charges, including suspicion of terrorism, aiding and abetting terrorism and conspiracy to commit terrorism, Gunasekera said. Four high level suspects are being held by TID, and 33 are being held by CID, he added.
Of those arrested, four suspects are female, and all are Muslims. Gunasekera said most of them are family members and friends of the suspected suicide bombers. None of those arrested are foreigners.
Significant raids were carried out on Wednesday night, he added, in which 16 people were arrested at various locations, most near the capital Colombo. Three shotguns and two walkie-talkies were also seized.
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The last part many of these fishermen are involved in smuggling, SL Navy is demonised by Media and TN politicos who are part of such business activities. It is reported Zahran Hashim also travelled this way to TN.
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place seems awash with jihadis...
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Blood brothers: The wealthy family behind Sri Lanka's suicide attacks

COLOMBO: Sri Lankan housewife Fathima Fazla thought of her neighbours in the grand three-storey home across the street as the wealthy celebrities of her humble Colombo suburb. She had no idea how infamous they would become.

Two brothers who lived at the white house on Mahawela Gardens have emerged as key players in suicide attacks on Easter Sunday that killed more than 350 people and stunned an island state that had enjoyed a decade of relative peace.

The Islamic State terror group claimed responsibility for the coordinated attacks on three churches and four hotels.

Inshaf Ibrahim, a 33-year-old copper factory owner, detonated his explosive device at the busy breakfast buffet of the luxury Shangri-La hotel, a source close to the family said.

When police went later that day to raid the family home, his younger brother Ilham Ibrahim detonated a bomb that killed him, his wife and the couple's three children, the source told Reuters, requesting anonymity for fear of reprisals.

"They seemed like good people, " Fazla told Reuters from her rundown home opposite the Ibrahim family residence, now cordoned off with crime-scene tape and marshalled by police.

The brothers' names were also reported in local media. Sri Lankan authorities have not released the identities of any of the bombers, and police did not respond to request for comment.

The brother's father, Mohamed Ibrahim, was arrested as police investigate those behind the attacks, police said. Ibrahim, a wealthy spice trader and pillar of the business community, had six sons and three daughters. He was admired by many who knew him.

"He was famous in the area for helping the poor with food and money. It's unthinkable his children could have done that, " Fazla said, glancing affectionately at her two young daughters. "Because of what they have done, all Muslims are treated as suspects."

Ilham Ibrahim, 31, openly expressed extremist ideologies and had been involved in meetings of National Thowheed Jamath, a local Islamist group suspected of involvement in planning the attacks, according to the source close to the family.

His entrepreneur brother, Inshaf, was outwardly more moderate in his views, and was known to be generous with donations to his staff and struggling local households, the source said. Inshaf was married to a daughter of a wealthy jewellery manufacturer and he faced no problems with money.

"I was shocked. We never thought they were these kind of people," said Sanjeewa Jayasinghe, a 38-year-old network cabling engineer who works next door to the Ibrahim family home.

The early Sunday bombings shattered the relative calm that has existed in Buddhist majority Sri Lanka since a civil war against mostly Hindu, ethnic Tamil separatists ended 10 years ago, and raised fears of a return to sectarian violence.

Though the Ibrahim brothers will be reviled across much of the country for plunging Sri Lanka .

"He was kind, unlike like many bosses. I was happy working for him, " said Sarowar, a Bangladeshi worker at Inshaf's abandoned copper factory on the outskirts of Colombo. "He is gone. What do I do now?"

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jaysimha wrote:cant help but put few words...
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India giving warnings ( many times )
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even though Sl forces capture and torture our fishermen... ???
If somebody walks into your house (after deliberately and intentionally crossing the International boundary) and steals your things (SL (yes sri lankan) fish and that too sri lankan fish, caught illegally, (as per SL law) with banned bottom trawling Indian fishing nets, by Indian "fishermen".) will you keep quiet??

Moreover, all the fishermen in that region have GPS so they know exactly where they are and how to avoid the patrols and their main business is the very lucrative drug, weapon and people smuggling and not fishing which is secondary for them, income wise.

Would this not bother the SLs and the GoI too?? On the Indian side, many local and state politicians are up to their necks in this sorry business and pay off the presstitutes to write and speak rubbish.

One of the SL suicide bombers used such boats to cross freely in and out of India without any authorities knowing about it.


Please go back and read the archives where this specific matter has been discussed quite extensively and in some detail.
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The thing that seems the most off in this scenario is the vehemence of the attacks, the grade, the numbers, the pipe bombs, the off the marks and their quantity ityadi ityadi; too much for this to not feel like a siege.
But what is the outcome that the jihadis want? the place is not awash with their numbers, the others are not rushing to convert either, and given the normal rate of growth, the time for changing their dhimmi attitude to "we want sharia now" seems far in the future. What do they want? isis 3.0 with ships and such and the control on the littoral regions of south-south asia? A separate city/nation in the heart of sl for a start and the formation of a civilization(!) consisting of city-states scattered about?
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ricky_v wrote:The thing that seems the most off in this scenario is the vehemence of the attacks, the grade, the numbers, the pipe bombs, the off the marks and their quantity ityadi ityadi; too much for this to not feel like a siege.
But what is the outcome that the jihadis want? the place is not awash with their numbers, the others are not rushing to convert either, and given the normal rate of growth, the time for changing their dhimmi attitude to "we want sharia now" seems far in the future. What do they want? isis 3.0 with ships and such and the control on the littoral regions of south-south asia? A separate city/nation in the heart of sl for a start and the formation of a civilization(!) consisting of city-states scattered about?

haven't they already got their own self administered enclaves in ummah territories??

anything similar elsewhere, except, perhaps africa, is a very distant pipe dream.
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chetak wrote:
ricky_v wrote:The thing that seems the most off in this scenario is the vehemence of the attacks, the grade, the numbers, the pipe bombs, the off the marks and their quantity ityadi ityadi; too much for this to not feel like a siege.
But what is the outcome that the jihadis want? the place is not awash with their numbers, the others are not rushing to convert either, and given the normal rate of growth, the time for changing their dhimmi attitude to "we want sharia now" seems far in the future. What do they want? isis 3.0 with ships and such and the control on the littoral regions of south-south asia? A separate city/nation in the heart of sl for a start and the formation of a civilization(!) consisting of city-states scattered about?

haven't they already got their own self administered enclaves in ummah territories??

anything similar elsewhere, except, perhaps africa, is a very distant pipe dream.
The outcome they want is expansion no matter how long and at what cost. For the individuals the 72 virgins in heaven are always a tempting prize. The whole idea is sick and insane but persistent generation after generation.

Who knows? In the far future, they might win. Look at Yurop. Onlee those willing to go with extreme solutions like Burma ("kick all of the vermin out") or Cheen ("lock up a whole province of them and keep the rest under surveillance") can survive the "peaceful" in the long run.
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Sri Lankan bombers unmasked amid intel fiasco



Sri Lanka Bombings ISIS

April 24, 2019

Sri Lankan bombers unmasked amid intel fiasco

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This image, from a release issued on April 23 by Islamic State (IS)’s propaganda agency Amaq, allegedly shows men who carried out a string of suicide blasts on Easter Sunday in Sri Lanka. The man in the center is believed to be Zahran Hashim, the NTJ leader.
Sri Lankan bombers unmasked amid ‘intel fiasco’

Panel set up to explain why local intelligence chiefs failed to act on detailed alerts from India

Three days after the bomb attacks in Sri Lanka that killed more than 350 people, investigators have come up with names of at least three suicide bombers – and a plot that stretches from Afghanistan to India and Bangladesh.

The attack has been claimed the Islamic State (ISIS), which posted videos of the suicide bombers swearing their bayat (allegiance) to ISIS on their official news channel, Amaq.

Intelligence sources say that Zahran Hashim was the key conspirator and lead bomber in the attacks. They have also identified Imsath Ahmed Ibrahim and his younger brother Ilham as two of the other suicide bombers.

They are still trying to identify the other suicide bombers who participated in the coordinated attacks on three churches and three hotels in Colombo and other cities on Easter Sunday.

Zahran Hashim’s name figured in an investigation carried out by India’s National Investigation Agency (NIA), when they were looking into ISIS activities in the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu. The state has historical linkages with Sri Lanka, which has a 16% Tamil minority population.

Interrogation of one of the ISIS “sympathizers” in September and December last year led investigators to Zahran Hashim. After months of work, India passed on their findings to Sri Lankan intelligence officials on April 4 and 11, just before the attacks.

The failure of intelligence officials to act promptly and responsibly on those warnings – and alert the prime minister and cabinet – is now the subject of serious scrutiny. Zahran Hashim and other National Thowheeth Jama’ath members had been under close watch. Officials in both countries reportedly knew that NTJ had been stockpiling weapons and detonators and that Hashim and his close followers were plotting suicide attacks on churches.

But the Indian warnings were only shared with police in charge of “VIP security,” according to a New York Times report, which noted that President Maithripala Sirisena, who is in charge of security affairs and has been feuding with Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe, had failed to provide “any satisfying answers about why security services did not do more to thwart the bombers.” Sirisena has appointed a committee to shine some light on those issues.
From Kerala to the Af-Pak border

In July 2016 Indian authorities reported that a number of young men and women had disappeared from the south Indian state of Kerala. This group, numbering 21 men and women, were believed to have been radicalized by Islamic State and sent to Nangarhar in Afghanistan to join an affiliate known as the Islamic State-Khorasan Province (IS-KP).

The IS-KP has been active in India’s southern states, plus Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Maldives. It was initially headed by a Pakistani who was part of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), the umbrella organization of Islamic militants in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province near the Afghan border.


Some of the radicals from Kerala were believed to have been killed in an air strike by the US Air Force, while Indian intelligence officials worked with their Afghan counterparts to send others back home. In the middle of last year, three of the men returned to India and were arrested as soon as they landed. One of them, identified as “Basit,” told Indian investigators of an ISIS module working out of Coimbatore, a small town in the state of Tamil Nadu. In September the NIA raided several places based on revelations from “Basit.”

By December, the NIA had found links between the Coimbatore group and Hashim in Sri Lanka.
They also recovered compact discs that had Hashim’s speeches, as well as call records going back and forth between Hashim and IS cadres in Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

The NIA also arrested six men, who shared more information on Hashim. India passed on these revelations to Sri Lankan authorities this month. Wickremesinghe told Indian news channel NDTV that they had received this intelligence. “India gave us the intelligence but there has been a lapse on how we acted on that … intelligence was not conveyed down the line,” he told NDTV.

The foot soldiers

Investigators have also located a copper factory where the bombs were assembled. They suspect that local materials were utilized to create explosives out of TATP (triacetone triperoxide). The owner of the copper factory, Inshaf Ahmed, is believed to be one of the suicide bombers, but that is yet to be confirmed.

All of the bombers are thought to have been associated with a local Muslim activist group called the National Thoweeth Jama’ath (NTJ) and acted as the foot soldiers of an “international network.” Indian investigators also found links to the NTJ while investigating another ISIS cell in Madurai, another city in Tamil Nadu.

Muslim residents in Kochchikade in Colombo, where one of the bombs exploded, have described the NTJ as a radical group with a different set of beliefs from theirs. Kochchikade, close to the port in the north of the capital, was where the first bomb went off at a Catholic church during mass on Sunday morning.

K M Akram, a resident of the area, told Asia Times that the Muslim community in Kochchikade were traditionalists. “We belong to the Tabliq Jama’ath [religious gathering, a non-political movement]. Our beliefs are different from these so-called members of the NTJ. They have made many attempts to come into our community, but they have failed. We do not trust them and they know they cannot break us apart from this community. Right now, even after the church attack, we are close to the families of the victims. We have helped the church and will continue to do so.”

Many others in the community believe that the NTJ is a small group of individuals with extremist beliefs. The shared sentiment of those in the Kochchikade area was that no such group is allowed in.

While relatively unknown, there were certain occasions where the group made headlines. A supposed secretary, Abdul Razik, of the group was arrested in 2016 for inciting sectarian violence. He was later released.

On Tuesday, Defense Minister Ruwan Wijewardene told a special session of Parliament that the motive behind the Easter Sunday attacks was to retaliate for the attack on Muslims in mosques in New Zealand a month ago.

“The preliminary investigations have revealed that what happened in Sri Lanka [on Sunday] was in retaliation for the attack against Muslims in Christchurch,” Wijewardene told Parliament.

While ISIS has not confirmed a connection to the massacre in New Zealand, it was noted that Sri Lankan Christians were part of a coalition led by the US against Muslims. Indian security officials believe that Sri Lanka was chosen because it is a “soft target.”

Mother of Satan’ explosive used in Sri Lanka bombings

The ISIS-directed terrorists in Sri Lanka used an explosive highly favored by terrorists called TATP

Sri Lanka’s suicide bombers are thought to have used TATP, chemically known as triacetone triperoxide, an explosive made from commonly available household ingredients including nail polish remover – acetone – and hydrogen peroxide.

The eight or more suicide bombers in Sri Lanka must have purchased large amounts of these two ingredients, yet despite being on the police “radar screen,” no one picked it up. According to news reports, it is suspected they made the stuff in a copper factory in Wellampitiya, a suburb of Colombo.
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GoI should put the screws on GoSL and demand a joint investigation by NIA. These groups are interlinked and the only way they could be truly dismantled if the whole picture comes out from both the countries.
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souravB wrote:GoI should put the screws on GoSL and demand a joint investigation by NIA. These groups are interlinked and the only way they could be truly dismantled if the whole picture comes out from both the countries.
The hans will head it off at the pass. There is paki in the mix somewhere so the amerikis and the hans will bury everything they can. The hans for the CPEC and the amerikis for afghanistan.

It will not happen, even though it should for the good of both countries.
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The 'Mother of Satan' explosive may be cooked up using easily available explosives and methods for doing so are available online, however it seems the terrorists prefer to intern under master bomb-makers in Iraq or Syria, then come home and make it. It is reported that there are subtle differences, depending on the mode of transportation - backpacks with TATP are more difficult to handle and control - hence a different approach to cooking it.

Worth a read:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/che ... 229180bac7

The TATP bombs were prepped in the copper factory owned by the father-sons combo. So, it would appear that the SL local terror cell members must have had training elsewhere. Given the vast cultural divide between the Syrian / Iraqi chappies and the SLs, there must have been a role for our dear Porkis to bridge the gap / coordinate.

It was earlier mentioned by another member that the sheer scale of the attack indicated a siege. Given the very small percentage of Muslims, what exactly were they hoping to achieve, post the blasts? Probably it was a regime change exercise that went sideways with an uncontrolled shift in targets and objectives?. The local perpetuators appear to be just the puppets controlled by some very different (and perhaps unexpected) forces behind.
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How was the TATP and Detonators smuggled into SL, and how were these such experts into putting them together and attching the power source to trigger the explosions so reliably, some cover up is happening, these guys were walking in Back packs with explosives and none of the bombs failed to blow up or blew up accidentally. Which means the electricals, electronics and explosives other bomb material were industrial grade and still light.
Imagine these bombs were compact, light, Had a large blast radius and were powerful, rugged and still very reliable. This requires a combination of Bomb maker and equipment which can't be brought in off the shelf. It has to manufactured in a factory which makes claymore mines or Anti Tank mines or some stuff like that. I have a feeling something is missing from the SL armourary which no one is willing to admit.
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chetak wrote: haven't they already got their own self administered enclaves in ummah territories??
anything similar elsewhere, except, perhaps africa, is a very distant pipe dream.
to be fair, how would people even differentiate between a regular regime and an islamic one in africa?
chola wrote: The outcome they want is expansion no matter how long and at what cost. For the individuals the 72 virgins in heaven are always a tempting prize. The whole idea is sick and insane but persistent generation after generation.

Who knows? In the far future, they might win. Look at Yurop. Onlee those willing to go with extreme solutions like Burma ("kick all of the vermin out") or Cheen ("lock up a whole province of them and keep the rest under surveillance") can survive the "peaceful" in the long run.
Yeah, no I get that but the numbers are not conducive for such an endeavour. Go the regular route while the breeder horde pumps up the numbers and distorts the demographics, buy land, build places of worship, be tools for outsiders in name of ummah birathery, sap the willingness of the host populace by upstaging their customs and practices, cry minorityism every time you stub your toe, you know textbook stuff. Instead, we have m/s rich and rich fuking it up for their community for evermore in sl.
What did they hope to achieve?
Step 1: Kill 300+ in asinine fashion.
Step 2: SL wipes out community.
Step 3: ...Winning?
The play for a&n is too late, so is for lakshwadweep as both have heavy admin machinery presence, though i suppose the fiends want the s/eastern coast on the boil as a sop for training and such.
As for the 72,mr. moneybags could have provided everyone on their team with such a number; if the desire was for halaal "uncut" meat, hell they could have gotten the misbegotten imams of india to provide such services as are the norm.
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From island.lk
http://island.lk/index.php?page_cat=art ... tle=203143
TNA MP M. A. Sumanthiran yesterday urged the government to investigate Governor Eastern Province M.L.A.M. Hizbullah’s alleged links with the National Thowheed Jamaath along with all connections that group had with various other politicians and previous defence officials.

MP Sumanthiran said that there was an alleged link between the Islam radical group and the Eastern Province Governor.

Participating in the debate on emergency regulations in parliament yesterday, Sumanthiran said: "The Muslim people, to their credit, have repeatedly complained about these miscreants. Years ago, Muslim groups raised the issue of radicalization with government intelligence officials, and appealed for steps to be taken to halt this process.

Further, in 2017 itself they even held a demonstration in Kattankudy and asked that Zaharan be arrested. I must, in this respect, commend the brave conduct of Parliamentarian Kabir Hashim, who has set a great example for all of us.
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An account of how the Muslim community in Kattankudy has been living with or combating fundamentalism.
http://www.dailymirror.lk/liveblog/1656 ... Mastermind
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one goal may have been to ignite anti muslim riots and radicalize more young people to the cause.
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^^^ Defacing Buddhist statues, damaging temples would be a "cheaper" way of provoking anti-Muslim riots.

Sons of a respected, wealthy, well-connected spice export merchant, with factory space for making bombs, able to travel abroad for "business" with a legitimate cover -- these are not assets to be sacrificed lightly, IMO -- but as though I can possibly understand the jihadi mindset.
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Colombo gazette

Three people have been arrested with grenades and swords in Modara, the Police said.

The Police said that the suspects had in their possession locally manufactured hand grenades and swords.

The arrest was made following a search operation carried out by the security forces.
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UK foreign office puts out immediate threat warning for Sri Lanka, that terrorists are “very likely” to carry out more attacks
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I think SL inviting UQ and US entities to investigate, is colonial dhmmitude showing. Those **ARE** the ppl who stoddy by as ISIS grew and got funded from their nations, hain? Why does SL think they will conduct unbiased investigation and not plant/suppress evidence?

Should have got the Russians if Indian help was not enough: those are ppl who genuinely put their lives on the line against ISIS.
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Singha wrote:one goal may have been to ignite anti muslim riots and radicalize more young people to the cause.
One odd explosion may be construed as a challenge and some hotheads may even respond by the de jure and ceremonial window glass breaking.

The larger number of explosions, coordinated and planned on a specific religious holiday is a warning as well as a tool of suppression.

They have cleverly left unexploded ordinance for the authorities to very conveniently find and those "controlled explosions" are another set of warnings to the GoSL to reign in all opposition or simply a direct message to the laity/clergy to overpower and extinguish even the merest thoughts of retaliation in mango SLs.

padres are scrambling to calm down the younger folks in their congregation and the rising resentment.

There has been talk in the SM of very aggressive conversion activities and these are becoming more blatant as time goes by, not only in SL but also in other regions of the peninsula and in other surrounding countries.

you should hear the evil rantings in tamil of one guy from the terrorist group. I am not posting that here but it can be found on the net for those interested. It is as shocking as it is revealing due to its sheer malevolence and the diabolical, fiendishly deluded thoughts that are so rigidly espoused.

Even the so called failed bombing attempt in another hotel is just a warning that they still have the residual spare capacity as well as the capability to strike again and at will.

This attack is not a one off, tactical strike that can be attributed to a lone and single pack of wolves but judging from the efforts that seem to have gone into the planning and the coordinated execution and especially the logistics, reportedly spanning continents, they have a long term goal in mind and have sufficient incountry assets of people as well as considerable stocks of ready use ordinance.

That no suicide bombers in India theory has just taken a tragic turn for the worse. A SL beardo is indistinguishable from a home grown Indian beardo, especially when they both speak tamil and carry a naqli aadhar card or voter's id casually cross international borders by small boats, ferried, of course, by rapacious and mercenary Indian traitors.

Matters have also become infinitely more difficult and complicated because of the female bomber who was also part of the strike team.

A burka ban in India just will not wash. commie/naxal liberandus will shout the roof down and the international commie press will back them to the hilt.

this nonsense of the ganga-jamuni tehzeeb should be junked immediately before we all pay the price for laxity. It has started to mean very different things to different people and also to different sections of our society. Even khattar panti jehadi pakis are using it to beguile us now.
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VikramA wrote:UK foreign office puts out immediate threat warning for Sri Lanka, that terrorists are “very likely” to carry out more attacks
these shitty little irrelevant aholes, callously seeking their day in the sun.
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A_Gupta wrote:^^^ Defacing Buddhist statues, damaging temples would be a "cheaper" way of provoking anti-Muslim riots.

Sons of a respected, wealthy, well-connected spice export merchant, with factory space for making bombs, able to travel abroad for "business" with a legitimate cover -- these are not assets to be sacrificed lightly, IMO -- but as though I can possibly understand the jihadi mindset.
I think that their covers were already blown and knew that the bombings would trail back to them.

That explains why family members of one of the bombers blew themselves up along with their kids when the cops arrived at their home. They took three cops long with them in that explosion.

SL interrogation techniques have been finely honed since the days of the ltte and one seriously doubts if anyone would hold out too long against such determined security personnel, undetered as they are by any accusations of HR violations.
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chetak wrote: A SL beardo is indistinguishable from a home grown Indian beardo, especially when they both speak tamil and carry a naqli aadhar card or voter's id casually cross international borders by small boats, ferried, of course, by rapacious and mercenary Indian traitors.

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I think Chetak is on to something here.

Where was the original Islamic State? Not 100% in either Iraq or Syria. But in territory overlapping those two countries. From this epicentre, sprawled across a bi-national border, it spread into the heartlands of both countries.

The criteria are as follows:

1) Pick two soft and/or vulnerable states. Preferably ones with internal strife and (at least local) corrupt misgovernance at a common border area.

2) Is there already a logistics network that smuggles people and goods illicitly across that border area?

3) Is there a substantial peaceful population on both sides of that border area?'

If all conditions are satisfied, bingo. TTP (now ISIS-affiliated to a large extent) was trying exactly this, both in FATA as well as further east (Swat, Chitral etc.)

The plan is to create a quasi-state spanning that territory where issues of policing, investigation, military action, sovereignty etc. are as fuzzy and problematic as possible.

This means more "sovereignty-related" legal obstacles, more bureaucracy, more local internal issues (SL tamils vs GoSL, Periyarites vs GOI) come into play making it as difficult as possible to monitor or contain the quasi-state.

It also means friendly third countries (Pakistan, China in case of India/SL; Turkey, KSA, UAE in case of Iraq/Syria) who have their own designs in the region can be leveraged for state support.

The fact that the SL attacks occurred is a signal that this has already happened across the Palk strait. India has its work cut out for it. On top of investigating and stamping out the IS module per se, GoSL has to go along 100%, and Pakistan/China have to be kept out.
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Father of suspected Sri Lanka Easter bombers arrested on suspicion of aiding his sons - Emily Schmall And Bharatha Mallawarachi - The Associated Press
The father of two of the suspected Easter suicide bombers was arrested on suspicion of aiding his sons on Thursday, according to Sri Lanka’s former navy chief, as investigators continued to comb his Colombo mansion for evidence of the attacks that killed 359 people.
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Easter evil
Sri Lanka bombers want a clash of civilisations. Don’t give in.

The best response is to pursue terrorists, and avoid a backlash against Muslims

A few months ago National Thowheed Jamath (ntj), an Islamist group from Sri Lanka, was known for little more than defacing statues of the Buddha. On April 21st nine of its members walked into churches and luxury hotels on the island and blew themselves up, killing more than 350 people. Islamic State (is) claimed responsibility for the deadliest set of terrorist attacks in Asia in modern times (see article).

How could this happen? Start with Sri Lanka’s bungling. The world has learned a great deal about how to thwart terrorists since September 11th 2001. A crucial lesson is that it is vital to share information quickly and widely, so that fragmentary intelligence can be pieced together and followed up. This is precisely what Sri Lanka’s government failed to do, despite receiving unusually detailed warnings. Part of the reason for that appears to be shameless politicking. The island’s president, Maithripala Sirisena, has been at loggerheads with the prime minister, Ranil Wickremesinghe, since the former tried to sack the latter in October. Mr Wickremesinghe has been excluded from meetings of the national security council since then.

A second explanation is that, although Sri Lanka has no history of jihadist terrorism, nor even of much tension between Muslims and Christians, it sits in an ocean of bubbling extremism. In recent decades in South Asia, intolerant strands of Islam have edged out the broad-minded forms that used to predominate. That has created fertile ground for jihadists. The Maldives, just a short flight from Sri Lanka, sent more recruits to is in Iraq and Syria as a proportion of its population than any other country. Bangladesh, across the Bay of Bengal, has suffered a wave of Islamist attacks on secular activists and minorities in the past six years. Sri Lanka’s suicide-bombers reportedly contacted is veterans from both those countries. International jihadists have also cropped up across the Palk Strait in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu, which is bound to northern Sri Lanka by ethnic kinship. It was an IS suspect arrested there who is said to have yielded some of the intelligence passed to Sri Lanka’s government (which was then ignored).

On top of all this, Mr Wickremesinghe says that some of the bombers had been to Syria; they are likely to have been among the three dozen Sri Lankans who have fought with is. In short, Sri Lanka is not as quarantined from global jihadist networks as one might think. Few countries are. And as is has been bombed out of its so-called caliphate, thousands of its fighters have dispersed the world over, grafting themselves onto local Islamist groups like Sri Lanka’s NTJ and disseminating ideology and expertise. The threat of jihadist attacks is therefore likely to grow.

Last, the form of the atrocity in Sri Lanka—striking not only at hotels full of Westerners, but also at three churches—reflects the changing pattern of jihadist violence. Though al-Qaeda railed against “Jews and Crusaders” in the 1990s, it made its name striking secular targets, such as embassies and warships. Its more radical offshoot, is, instead came to prominence in Iraq by slaughtering local Muslims who disagreed with its bloodthirsty interpretation of the Koran, often with a degree of violence that even al-Qaeda’s leaders thought excessive.

IS has exported its modus operandi. In 2017 al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (aqis), al-Qaeda’s South Asian branch, published a code of conduct that said Hindu, Muslim and Buddhist civilians and places of worship would not be attacked. By contrast, is proudly claims attacks on religious targets, including churches in Egypt, the Philippines, Indonesia, Pakistan and now Sri Lanka. The aim of such sectarian terrorism is to promote the narrative of a clash of civilisations—an aim the jihadists share with white-nationalist terrorists, such as the one who attacked two mosques in New Zealand last month.

Both groups want to sow discord and force people to choose sides. The jihadists would love to provoke a backlash against Muslims, in the hope of pushing more Muslims into their camp. Neither governments nor citizens should fall into that trap. Instead, they should work harder to catch terrorists, while doing their best to soothe relations between Muslims and their neighbours. It was the Muslim Council of Sri Lanka, remember, that first reported NTJ to the authorities three years ago. Methinks the Econmist is GOING SOFT ON IT i.e. Islamic Terrorism!

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Peregrine wrote:Easter evil
Sri Lanka bombers want a clash of civilisations. Don’t give in.

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IS has exported its modus operandi. In 2017 al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (aqis), al-Qaeda’s South Asian branch, published a code of conduct that said Hindu, Muslim and Buddhist civilians and places of worship would not be attacked. Hmmmmmm! By contrast, is proudly claims attacks on religious targets, including churches in Egypt, the Philippines, Indonesia, Pakistan and now Sri Lanka. The aim of such sectarian terrorism is to promote the narrative of a clash of civilisations—an aim the jihadists share with white-nationalist terrorists, such as the one who attacked two mosques in New Zealand last month.

Both groups want to sow discord and force people to choose sides. The jihadists would love to provoke a backlash against Muslims,Unspoken: backlash BY Judeo Christian Western forces. "Backlash" by Hindus or Buddhists would suit those Judeo Christian Western forces just fine. in the hope of pushing more Muslims into their camp. Neither governments nor citizens should fall into that trap.
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Question: How true is it that AQIS officially decreed that Hindu and Buddhist civilians/places of worship are not to be attacked?

Does ISIS follow this particular code of conduct?

If all this is true, maybe we also should start thinking in terms of Bad (Paki) Jihadis vs. Not-As-Bad-In-The-Short-Term (AQIS/ISIS) jihadis? Isn't the latter kind actually preferable to the former, which wants to attack Indian state institutions plus Hindus and other Dharmics right now?
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Good terrorist, bad terrorist, not-so-bad terrorist. As the Alabama School for Mercenaries advertised:
Kill'em All. Let Al***** sort'em out.
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