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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 11 Jun 2019 20:23

Pratyush wrote:
Karan M wrote:This guy according to several should have been court martialed and drummed out of service



I don't understand the context of the comment.

What had happened?



Do your own research.

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Postby disha » 11 Jun 2019 21:32

Pratyush wrote:I don't understand the context of the comment. What had happened?


Or what has not happened?

Pratush'ji, google chacha will easily serve this up -> https://www.sirfnews.com/gen-deepak-kapoor-has-been-controversial-always/

In a nutshell, any government representative doing a chai-biskoot session with CONgoon Mani-Shankar Aiyar comes under two categories. Either that person is a CONgoon himself/herself OR is a deep mole into la famiglia. Generally it is the former and not the latter.

It may also be recalled that no action was taken against the General (Retd) Deepak Kapoor, on the CAG report, which was tabled to Parliament in 2008, which had held that Gen Kapoor, as Northern Army Commander in 2005-06, had procured items worth crores “which were not related to urgent requirements”. “The issue wasn’t fully probed because the ‘whistleblower’ officer, Lt Gen HS Panag, who as the new northern command chief, had opened the inquiry into the issue, but was transferred halfway into his tenure from the northern command in February 2008.


I will let you dig into what HS Panag has been upto post-retirement.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby disha » 11 Jun 2019 22:01

chetak wrote:such a thing is very bad for India. Why did sushma, earlier and now Modi have to overfly paki airspace on their way to Bishkek while the rest of us yahoos need to skirt paki airspace and pay extra to do so.


I think several of us think in Black-and-White. And do excellent navel gazing. I am seeing on twitter where several so called "protect India forces" have declared that Mudi is #AntiHindu and #MudiMustRezine stand.

And any suggestion to contrary is put out as a "Chankian propagandu defence" only mudi bhakts can think.

Here is the deal, in Bakistan "allows Mudi's aircraft" to over fly its airspace, one can as well say that "Bakistan cannot deny its airspace for overflight to PM of India". Once that door is opened, Bakistan can be made to allow other flights through its airspace. Now the intransigents in Bakistan have to explain why they allow for the hated mudi but not to others.

Anyway, point is that an excessive navel gazing is detriment in understanding the larger picture and plotting your moves accordingly. Yes, ideally Bakistan needs to be broken up in multiple pieces. However do we want the cancer to metastize? Or do we want the tumour to be contained? Can Bakistan be kept in "liquid oxygen"?

This government has shown time and again that it is innovative when it comes to applying solutions. Nobody fathoms what the government plans to do and what it does. Is going to Bishkek via Bakistani airspace but not meeting Bakis' own premier formally a message to Bakistanis on where they stand on the pecking order (or on Peking order?)

Here is another news to chew on: "'Good friends' Modi and Xi will meet at Bishkek, says China"

The SCO summit is a shifting landscape. China has to be defeated in Bakistan and it has to be a psychological defeat. One after another Bakistan needs to be weaned away from its four-fathers and when they stand nanga on the world stage, maybe and just maybe the reality will hit them and they may mend their ways. If not, well Shishupala vadha can always be done and then the world will stage a sigh of relief. Of course there will be a Jarasandha who may be upset on the north east and the game will be on to split the Jarasandha.

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Postby sudeepj » 11 Jun 2019 22:31

chetak wrote:posted without comment

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Shabash to the Adarsh General.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 12 Jun 2019 06:52

As usual, this gentleman Arif Khan speaks eminent sense.

house nigger thappad seems shell shocked that his highly colored narrative of the dura hua mussalman is not finding any traction at all.

the bosses must have paid good money to push this divisive agenda.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok9WTEcrcjA


How Are Muslims Viewing PM Modi's Victory? In Conversation With Arif Mohammad Khan



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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby A_Gupta » 12 Jun 2019 07:50

The utter bankruptcy of the "secularism" espoused by Karan Thapar is exposed by Sri Arif Mohammad Khan, who espouses a real secularism - that all that matters between any person and the government is that the person is a citizen.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshan » 12 Jun 2019 08:16

India Speaks Daily on Supreme Court that is not capable of seeing murders in West Bengal but has opinion on Twitter freedom: https://youtu.be/C0u2ySZRvg4

Also talks about prithviraj chauhan syndrome that runs in BJP.

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Postby Manu » 13 Jun 2019 01:47

Actually the SC is the most important issue facing us today, in the current environment.

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Postby darshan » 13 Jun 2019 02:23

Looks like SC was too busy somewhere else. May be counting formatting mistakes on RJB papers.

https://www.opindia.com/2019/06/119-per ... -to-power/

119 persons booked for posting derogatory remarks against the CM of Kerala since the Pinarayi Vijayan government came to power

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Postby ramana » 13 Jun 2019 05:33

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 13 Jun 2019 05:35

darshan wrote:India Speaks Daily on Supreme Court that is not capable of seeing murders in West Bengal but has opinion on Twitter freedom: https://youtu.be/C0u2ySZRvg4

Also talks about prithviraj chauhan syndrome that runs in BJP.



The honorable SC has opinion on red or green chutney to be served with aloo tikki and wants enforcement of its majestic decision.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshan » 13 Jun 2019 06:07

Follow on episode from India Speaks Daily on Prithviraj Syndrome of BJP (hopefully not as bad as claimed):
https://youtu.be/MhezaOHsV3M

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 13 Jun 2019 10:15

Well, back stabbers is more apt than Prithviraj. Prithviraj didn't know the shenanigans of invaders and their cult. But BJP and modi very well know it. But still continue with their appeasement and turn blind eye towards their own supporters.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 13 Jun 2019 10:22

Appeasement is good.
Backstabbing Ignoring supporters who can't go beyond first level thinking is also good. Shows maturity of the leaders.

PS: Generic comments on generic comments.
PPS: Comments of specific cases may be different from the above generic comments.
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 13 Jun 2019 10:43

pankajs wrote:Appeasement is good.
Backstabbing Ignoring supporters who can't go beyond first level thinking is also good. Shows maturity of the leaders.

PS: Generic comments on generic comments.
PPS: Comments of specific cases may different from the above generic comments.


nothing is more funny than people taking themselves seriously and telling others they don't have high level thinking as if they have accomplished big in life to comment on others.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 13 Jun 2019 10:45

Karthik S wrote:
pankajs wrote:Appeasement is good.
Backstabbing Ignoring supporters who can't go beyond first level thinking is also good. Shows maturity of the leaders.

PS: Generic comments on generic comments.
PPS: Comments of specific cases may different from the above generic comments.


nothing is more funny than people taking themselves seriously and telling others they don't have high level thinking as if they have accomplished big in life to comment on others.

Agree 100%.

Laughable to see folks who have achieved nothing in politics commenting on strategy/tactics of very successful politicians! These folks need to stop talking their own opinions so seriously. Couldn't be funnier.

PS: I would have agreed 400% but for the laws of mathematics.
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 13 Jun 2019 10:48

pankajs wrote:
Karthik S wrote:
nothing is more funny than people taking themselves seriously and telling others they don't have high level thinking as if they have accomplished big in life to comment on others.

Agree 100%.

Laughable to see folks who have achieved nothing commenting on strategy/tactics of very successful folks! These folks need to stop talking their own opinions so seriously. Couldn't be funnier.

PS: I would have agreed 400% but for the laws of mathematics.


Tactics saar not strategy. Tactics sure won elections, little early to call them very successful. BTW how people take their opinions is upto them. Nobody asked for your opinion of others opinions, so don't dive in (nose first) into others opinions.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 13 Jun 2019 10:50

Karthik S wrote:
pankajs wrote:Agree 100%.

Laughable to see folks who have achieved nothing commenting on strategy/tactics of very successful folks! These folks need to stop talking their own opinions so seriously. Couldn't be funnier.

PS: I would have agreed 400% but for the laws of mathematics.


Tactics saar not strategy. Tactics sure won elections, little early to call them very successful. BTW how people take their opinions is upto them. Nobody asked for your opinion of others opinions, so don't dive in (nose first) into others opinions.

As you have yourself stated before, funny coming from folks who have no political acumen to be commenting on folks who have a track record of upwards of 15+ years.
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 13 Jun 2019 10:53

pankajs wrote:
Karthik S wrote:
Tactics saar not strategy. Tactics sure won elections, little early to call them very successful. BTW how people take their opinions is upto them. Nobody asked for your opinion of others opinions, so don't dive in (nose first) into others opinions.

As you have yourself stated before, funny coming from folks who have no political acumen to be commenting on folks who have a track record of upwards of 20+ years.


So all fine then at your end. cheers.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby syam » 13 Jun 2019 10:55

Only snake swamy is real hindu leader. Every other guy is too dumb to do anything anyway.

Mind you, all of these 'woke' hindus hinding in their rat holes before 2014. Snake Swamy can't even influence his own daughter, but his followers take him seriously.

:rotfl:

Since we are going with generic opinions and pet peeves.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KL Dubey » 14 Jun 2019 03:10

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/amit-shah-set-to-be-at-bjp-helm-at-least-till-year-end/articleshow/69780191.cms

Looks like Amit will remain at the helm for the upcoming assembly elections in HY and MH (Oct 2019), JH (Nov/Dec 2019)...and quite possibly for DL (Feb 2020). NDA seems to be in a strong position in the three 2019 states, and with AAP weakening in DL and PB there should be a good shot at success in DL 2020.


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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sachin » 14 Jun 2019 10:05

Congress seeks simultaneous polls to Rajya Sabha seats vacated by Amit Shah, Smriti Irani
Looks like the Congress has realised its precarious position when it comes to Rajya Sabha.

Shah says BJP yet to reach its peak, eyes power in Kerala, Bengal.
Mean while A.Shah & Co are making their next plans and charting the course for the future. They seem to operate in true blue corporate style.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby williams » 14 Jun 2019 10:27

What do you all think about the idea Su Swamy is floating off late about this idea of Govt taking over the land and hand it over to VHP to build the temple now and pay fair compensation later when the court comes up with the verdict on land ownership (Article 300A). Seems like a reasonable idea instead of waiting for a verdict for another decade.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vimal » 14 Jun 2019 12:30

This guy makes some good points.

Some International news organizations like the BBC have held a long-standing bias against India(particularly Hindus).


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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby A_Gupta » 14 Jun 2019 18:53

Desperately trying to get hooks into PM Modi: Foreign Policy mag:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/06/13/mo ... bal-brand/
Modi’s Nationalism Is Spoiling His Global Brand

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Postby tsarkar » 14 Jun 2019 19:22

Meanwhile, Pappu left for UK on Tuesday 11th June to celebrate his 49th Birthday there.

https://theprint.in/politics/rahul-gand ... on/249967/
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Kashi » 14 Jun 2019 19:32

A_Gupta wrote:Desperately trying to get hooks into PM Modi: Foreign Policy mag:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/06/13/mo ... bal-brand/
Modi’s Nationalism Is Spoiling His Global Brand


It's by Michael Kugleman, A_GuptaJi, I thought you would be familiar with him. The man is more Baki than a Baki. Unfair aunty specifically referred to him in her latest musings.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 15 Jun 2019 02:35

Are the amerikis trying to sell us a pup by piling on political pressure on Modi using various sanctions and technology denial regimes to bolster their case


The Pentagon is battling the clock to fix serious, unreported F-35 problems



The Pentagon is battling the clock to fix serious, unreported F-35 problems


By: Valerie Insinna
June 12

WASHINGTON — Over the past several years, U.S. Defense Department leaders have gone from citing technical problems as their biggest concern for the F-35 program to bemoaning the expense of buying and sustaining the aircraft.

But the reality may be worse. According to documents exclusively obtained by Defense News, the F-35 continues to be marred by flaws and glitches that, if left unfixed, could create risks to pilot safety and call into question the fighter jet’s ability to accomplish key parts of its mission:

F-35B and F-35C pilots, compelled to observe limitations on airspeed to avoid damage to the F-35’s airframe or stealth coating. Cockpit pressure spikes that cause “excruciating” ear and sinus pain. Issues with the helmet-mounted display and night vision camera that contribute to the difficulty of landing the F-35C on an aircraft carrier.



These are some of the problems with the jet that the documents describe as category 1 deficiencies — the designation given to major flaws that impact safety or mission effectiveness.

Thirteen of the most serious flaws are described in detail, including the circumstances associated with each issue, how it impacts F-35 operations and the Defense Department’s plans to ameliorate it.

All but a couple of these problems have escaped intense scrutiny by Congress and the media. A few others have been briefly alluded to in reports by government watchdog groups.
Bad data in F-35 logistics system resulting in lost missions
Bad data in F-35 logistics system resulting in lost missions

Ever wonder what's driving down the F-35's mission capable rates? Here's one factor.
By: Valerie Insinna

But the majority of these problems have not been publicly disclosed, exposing a lack of transparency about the limitations of the Defense Department’s most expensive and high-profile weapons system.

These problems impact far more operators than the U.S. Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy customer base. Eleven countries — Australia, Belgium, Denmark, Italy, Israel, the Netherlands, Norway, Japan, South Korea, Turkey and the United Kingdom — have all selected the aircraft as their future fighter of choice, and nine partner nations have contributed funds to the development of the F-35.

Taken together, these documents provide evidence that the F-35 program is still grappling with serious technical problems, even as it finds itself in a key transitional moment.



And the clock is ticking. By the end of 2019, Defense Department leaders are set to make a critical decision on whether to shut the door on the F-35’s development stage and move forward with full-rate production. During this period, the yearly production rate will skyrocket from the 91 jets manufactured by Lockheed Martin in 2018 to upward of 160 by 2023.

Generally speaking, the department’s policy calls for all deficiencies to be closed before full-rate production starts. This is meant to cut down on expensive retrofits needed to bring existing planes to standard.




The F-35 Joint Program Office appears to be making fast progress, but not all problems will be solved before the full-rate production decision, said Vice Adm. Mat Winter, the Defense Department’s F-35 program executive.

“None of them, right now, are against any of the design, any of the hardware or any of the manufacturing of the aircraft, which is what the full-rate production decision is for,” he told Defense News in an interview. “There are no discrepancies that put at risk a decision of the department to approve us to go into full-rate production.”

Nine out of 13 problems will likely either be corrected or downgraded to category 2 status before the Pentagon determines whether to start full-rate production, and two will be adjudicated in future software builds, Winter said.

However, the F-35 program office has no intention of correcting two of the problems addressed in the documents, with the department opting to accept additional risk.





The 13 deficiencies include:

The F-35’s logistics system currently has no way for foreign F-35 operators to keep their secret data from being sent to the United States.
The spare parts inventory shown by the F-35’s logistics system does not always reflect reality, causing occasional mission cancellations.
Cabin pressure spikes in the cockpit of the F-35 have been known to cause barotrauma, the word given to extreme ear and sinus pain.
In very cold conditions — defined as at or near minus 30 degrees Fahrenheit — the F-35 will erroneously report that one of its batteries have failed, sometimes prompting missions to be aborted.
Supersonic flight in excess of Mach 1.2 can cause structural damage and blistering to the stealth coating of the F-35B and F-35C.
After doing certain maneuvers, F-35B and F-35C pilots are not always able to completely control the aircraft’s pitch, roll and yaw.
If the F-35A and F-35B blows a tire upon landing, the impact could also take out both hydraulic lines and pose a loss-of-aircraft risk.
A “green glow” sometimes appears on the helmet-mounted display, washing out the imagery in the helmet and making it difficult to land the F-35C on an aircraft carrier.
On nights with little starlight, the night vision camera sometimes displays green striations that make it difficult for all variants to see the horizon or to land on ships.
The sea search mode of the F-35’s radar only illuminates a small slice of the sea’s surface.
When the F-35B vertically lands on very hot days, older engines may be unable to produce the required thrust to keep the jet airborne, resulting in a hard landing.

The Pentagon has identified four additional category 1 deficiencies since beginning operational tests in December 2018, mostly centered around weapons interfaces, Winter said.

“They are not catastrophic. If they were, they'd have to stop test. There's nothing like that,” he said. “They will be straightforward software fixes. We just need to get to them.”




The good, the bad and the ugly

Defense News shared the list of deficiencies with two senior naval aviators — one active and one recently retired — who agreed to review the document. Each offered a different perspective on the seriousness of the problems.


The recently retired aviator said some of the issues jumped off the page at him, including the cabin over-pressurization issue, given the rash of over-pressurization issues in other aircraft, including the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, EA-18G Growler and F-22 Raptor.

But perhaps the most serious for aerial combat operations is the combination of maneuvering issues when the aircraft is operating above a 20-degree angle of attack and the issue of possible structural damage and damage to the low-observable coating when using the afterburner. That coating helps provide the F-35 a stealth capability.

"The one that stood out to me was, wait a minute, you're telling me that the latest, greatest aircraft — [a] $100 million aircraft — can't perform?" the retired fighter pilot said. "It has random oscillations, pitch and yaw issues above 20A?"


However, the naval aviator currently in service said the list of deficiencies did not alarm him and that, given that the F-35 is still new to the fleet, such issues are inevitable.

“That document looks like growing pains for an aircraft that we tried to do a whole lot to all at once,” the senior aviator said. “You’re going to see that if you dig back at what Super Hornets looked like for the first few years. Go back in the archives and look at [the F-14] Tomcat — think about that with the variable sweep-wing geometry, the AUG9 radar: There was a lot of new technology incorporated into the aircraft, and there is going to be growing pains.”

David B. Larter in Washington contributed to this story.


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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KLNMurthy » 15 Jun 2019 13:39

vimal wrote:^^ Be careful with what you wish for. While this is great for Modi government, imagine how this can misused by Congis by setting up unconstitutional bodies like NAC. Or using folks like Sam Pitroda. But then government's hands are also tied due to various factors like reservations etc.

The fight going forward is to maintain a congress-mukt Bharat, and not allow the Modi era to go down as a (somewhat longer) Hemachandra interlude. Congress-mukt means more than just the name and the dynasty, it is this exact corrupt rentier reactionary system they built and fortified all these years.

So, worrying about "what if this reform fell into the hands of the next congress regime?" Implying that such a turn of the wheel is inevitable, is defeatist thinking. Please to recognize and avoid.

(Also, no need to worry about any political monoculture developing--there will be plenty of room for dissent and alternate parties going forward, provided We The People do our job of growing into educated and thoughtful citizens. Avoid the error of viewing the absurd criminality of congress culture as a legitimate political alternative to Moditva.)

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Postby KLNMurthy » 15 Jun 2019 13:57

A_Gupta wrote:Desperately trying to get hooks into PM Modi: Foreign Policy mag:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/06/13/mo ... bal-brand/
Modi’s Nationalism Is Spoiling His Global Brand

Is that the same global brand that this class of magazines and newspapers constantly proclaim to be divisive, intolerant, casteist and fascist?

Seems to me that it would be wonderful news if that global brand got a bit spoiled.

These people would be funny if they weren't so abjectly pathetic. Before each election now, they spew nonstop lies and bile about Modi, wishing for his (political I guess) demise. And once the Indian People have done what they do best, they turn on a dime, and very gently advise Modi--no doubt for his own good--that he should stop doing the the exact thing that makes him a winner so that, maybe, just maybe, they won't be forced to be so mean to him that he ignores them completely.

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Postby KLNMurthy » 15 Jun 2019 14:04

Kashi wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:Desperately trying to get hooks into PM Modi: Foreign Policy mag:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/06/13/mo ... bal-brand/
Modi’s Nationalism Is Spoiling His Global Brand


It's by Michael Kugleman, A_GuptaJi, I thought you would be familiar with him. The man is more Baki than a Baki. Unfair aunty specifically referred to him in her latest musings.

Makes sense that an honorary Baki would go this route in campaigning against Modi.

Back in the day, Muslim rulers wishing to subdue a kafir king would start with a list of demands for the KK to abandon or reduce all the things that make the KK a challenge in a direct confrontation: reduce your military, don't be so prosperous, abandon or neglect your gods etc., etc., and then, maybe this time I won't come for you. Lot of cosardly kings, including the crypto-kafir abul hasan tani shah of golconda, fell for this bluster.

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Postby darshan » 15 Jun 2019 20:12

Fearlessness of congoons in Punjab:https://youtu.be/KHGP0Pw0H_w

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Postby CRamS » 15 Jun 2019 21:42

Guys, I read both Klugleman Paki's crap, and Fair didi's hard hitting expose on how Pakis disrupt events and forums with ISI narrative. Only disagreement I have with Fair didi if at all is that ISI need not control everything, when it comes to India, ISI narrative is Paki aam Abdul narrative. Its embedded in their DNA.

Like she herself says, true honest portrayal of Pakis is a scarce commodity in international fora. And as much as she disses Klugleman, he has a point, however much it might rile us nationalists. And that is, despite our claims of Pakis being 'isolated', despite our claims of 'Balakot being a game changer', neither Pakis nor 'international community' see it that way. For them Balakot was a dud, IAF was 'defeated' in the air skirmish, and Pakis ensured stalemate. Please read this excellent analysis by Sushant Sareen:

https://www.orfonline.org/research/the- ... tan-51968/

Even if you take the latest Paki attack on CRPF, note it was on security forces, not civilians. So we call it terror and rightfully so, but for the Klugleman types who represent 'international community' on whom we rely on it tighten financial screws on Pakis, the attack is not seen as terror, but 'violence by both sides', and Pakis by calling for 'dialogue' cuts ice with them (I mean 'international community'). And as Klugleman adds, the 'international community' would like to see India moving away from its 'rigid position' on Kashmir. Meaning for them, Kashmir is part of India is not sacrosanct, especially as you see Kashmir Muslim priks pelt stones and hate and abuse India.

Anyway, bottom line is that diplomacy aside, we need many more Balakots, many more surgical strikes, and above all, air tight defense to prevent Pakis from scoring high profile terrorist attacks against our forces. Till then of course symbolic stuff like ModiJi avoiding Paki air space, no talks till Pakis stop terror etc are essential, but just noise, which Pakis will easily ride over and ensure the stalemate prevails.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Anujan » 15 Jun 2019 23:40

Why the dhoti shiver and towel?

Goras know two things
* Desis give them the time of the day because they are goras
* Goras can always call themselves "South Asia Experts" without visiting the region, without giving sane political analysis or any kind of predictions that come true. Kind of the political equivalent of Yogendra Yadav. They will always be invited to TV debates, write newspaper articles and to give speeches in think tanks.

Kugelman is one of those. He "Knows the region" because he read a few wikipedia articles, and watches the news.

As far as "Isolation" is concerned. Yes, Pakis are never truly "Isolated"
* Massa needs them for whatever leverage they have over Afghanistan
* Cheen has sunk in a lot of money, Pakis are also cheen client state to needle India
* Russies want to needle Massa in Afghanistan, so they are trying to get Pakis to their side
* Iran wants to deal with Pakis because they do not want Pakis to become a logistics hub if and when Massa invades Iran or bombs Iran
* Saudis will stick to Pakis, because Pakis have the bum and Saudis need the bum against Iran
* A host of Middle East Countries, from Oman to Jordan want Pakis for Paki soldiers as bodyguards to Kings etc. Using their own soldiers exposes them to coup plots.

So yes, Pakis can never truly be "Isolated". They can be contained though. India has options

India can start out by explicitly stating its security objective. The most immediate threat is from Pakistan. But Indians do not want to articulate it as official policy because we are brothers onlee. There are a lot of WKKs in media, half the population are WKKs. Siddhu goes out and says he feels more camaraderie with Pakjabis than South Indians.

A good start would be to amend the defence procurement policy to throw out Lockheed out of any aircraft competition, because they are supplying equipment to the enemy. Money speaks in Massa. Companies will fall in line, like how they fall in line whenever cheen sneezes.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vayutuvan » 16 Jun 2019 03:22

Anujan wrote: India can start out by explicitly stating its security objective. The most immediate threat is from Pakistan. But Indians do not want to articulate it as official policy because we are brothers onlee.


PM Modi ji did say something to this effect just before Balakot strikes.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 16 Jun 2019 04:45

no wonder the congis were barking like stray dogs as the counting day grew closer.

It was all a congi ponzi scheme that was swallowed hook, line and sinker by the owners of the congi party and their servile minions.

even the lootyens liberandus and the hostile godi, as well as the foreign press, fell for it.

I wonder what exactly was the role of pappu's shady havard professors and the cambridge analytica types who must have insisted and taken their payments in advance.

and the great lovey dovey, all sacrificing sister seems to have a very well developed sense of self preservation and the sense to rereat just to fight another day when she will seek to replace pappu as the one and only fearless leader.

isn't this how all canabalistic mafia familias work

next on the agenda is the systematic dismantling of the three congi state govts and their replacement thereof


Rahul’s own team fed his PM hopes right up to poll defeat





Rahul’s own team fed his PM hopes right up to poll defeat

Pankaj Vohra

June 15, 2019,

The events during the run-up to the counting revealed that either Rahul Gandhi was of an over-trusting nature or was too gullible in perceiving how smooth-talking individuals were leading him up the garden path.



New Delhi: There has been intense speculation regarding the reasons that forced Rahul Gandhi to resign as the Congress president, the foremost being that he was misled by his own team, and made to believe that his party was securing between 164 and 184 seats in the recent Parliamentary elections. Based on this inaccurate information, he is understood to have contacted UPA allies such as M.K. Stalin, Akhilesh Yadav, Omar Abdullah, Sharad Pawar and Tejashwi Yadav amongst others, and offered to accommodate some of them in the next Cabinet.

He is reported to have even obtained two letters from a senior legal eagle to enable him to stake claim to form the next government. A victory procession was also planned to celebrate the exit of the BJP, which of course did not happen, though instructions to a select few Delhi leaders were passed on to mobilise and assemble a crowd of nearly 10,000 people outside the AICC office on 24, Akbar Road. Given that the assessment of the Congress party went completely askew, resulting in a huge loss of face, Rahul had no option but to put in his papers. Currently, he is in England and is expected to be back early next week in time for both the commencement of the Parliament session as also his birthday on 19 June.

To make matters worse, Praveen Chakravarty, who was his most trusted aide, looking after the election office and data-analysis, besides running the Shakti app, is missing from the scene. A day after the election results were announced he has been incommunicado and efforts by senior leaders to contact him have failed miserably. Incidentally, he had not even provided the Congress with the hard disc of the data he had collected, for which he is alleged to have presented a bill of Rs 24 crore. Senior leaders in the party are suspecting that Chakravarty, who played a role similar to the one played by Prashant Kishor for Narendra Modi in the 2014 Parliamentary elections, could have been a BJP mole in the Congress office.

In fact, four of the eight persons working in the Congress president’s office have resigned. In addition to Chakravarty, Divya Spandana, who, her detractors claim, charged the party nearly Rs 8 crore, is also untraceable; she has also deleted her Twitter and Instagram accounts. The events during the run-up to the counting have revealed that either Rahul Gandhi was of an over-trusting nature or was too gullible in perceiving how smooth-talking individuals were leading him up the garden path. It is not only he alone, but both Sonia Gandhi and Priyanka Gandhi Vadra too appeared convinced that the Congress was returning to power, raising questions whether the family was living in some sort of a la-la land.

Informed sources stated that Chakravarty had met Rahul on 21 May, on the day of Rajiv Gandhi’s death anniversary, and had given him a list of 184 potential winners of the Congress, along with their respective constituencies and projected margins. Rahul was told that 184 was the number, but if things turned out to be slightly inadequate, it, in any case, would not be less than 164. The data was double-checked by the Congress president’s office, and Rahul asked his office to make a list of nearly “100 first-time MPs”, who he was not familiar with, since they had worked at the state level. He further instructed for a separate list of likely losers to be drafted out as well. The second list included prominent leaders such as Mallikarjun Kharge, Pawan Bansal, Harish Rawat, Ajay Maken etc., whom he wanted to be part of the next government.

A day before the counting of votes, and buoyed by the documentation supplied by Chakravarty, Rahul and Priyanka got to work. The two started contacting potential allies and key leaders of their own party. Rahul is reported to have phoned M.K. Stalin and conveyed to him his desire to induct him in the future Cabinet as Home Minister. Sharad Pawar was requested to be a part of the dispensation, since his presence would provide gravitas. Akhilesh Yadav was also offered an important berth, after being asked how many seats the Mahagathbandhan was winning in Uttar Pradesh. Akhilesh Yadav put the figure at 40-plus and asked for Congress numbers in the state, appearing amused when conveyed that the party was winning nine, which included Rae Bareli and Amethi, besides Kanpur, Unnao, Fatehpuri Sikri, etc. Tejashwi Yadav’s assessment was that the Congress could touch the five- to six-mark in Bihar, while his party would be obtaining nearly 20-plus. Omar Abdullah was confident that the National Conference could win three, while Congress may go through in Udhampur, from where Dr Karan Singh’s son, Vikramaditya was contesting.

At the same time, Priyanka, who had an early dinner with Rahul at a South Indian restaurant in Chanakyapuri, was doing her bit. She rang up Congress Chief Ministers and asked them to send the list of potential ministers from their respective states. It could not be ascertained if the CMs actually sent in names or were taken aback by this call.

Two close advisers to Rahul, including a former Union Minister and his personal secretary K. Raju went to the residence of a well-known senior attorney in South Delhi to get two drafts prepared for the President of India. One draft was specific to the Congress staking claim directly and the second one was formulated to support any of the UPA allies. The two letters were delivered at the Congress president’s office.

So certain and assured were the Gandhis of victory that a press conference on the day of counting was also planned, following which a victory march was to take place outside the Congress headquarters. Everything went off-centre when the results started pouring in.

Sources said that the reason for Rahul and Priyanka criticising the Chief Ministers at the Congress Working Committee meeting a couple of weeks ago was because they were misled by some of them. Earlier, Rajasthan Chief Minister Ashok Gehlot had stated that the Congress could possibly win between 14 and 16 out of 25 from his state, but the winners may not include his son. The Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister, Kamal Nath, presented his figure to around 11 to 15 out of 29. It was only Chhattisgarh Chief Minister Bhupesh Baghel, who divulged the ground reality and said that the Congress would win only three or four seats. He was complimented for his modest assessment and told that the figure would be 8. AICC treasurer, Ahmed Patel, was asked for his estimation regarding Gujarat, and is understood to have conveyed to Rahul that the Congress was unlikely to win any seat from there, a matter which displeased the Congress president.

The entire edifice of the proposed government formation was built on inaccurate evaluation, which has been a brutal blow to the Congress president. Rahul was so sure of success in both the constituencies he was contesting from—Amethi and Wayanad—that he asked Priyanka to contest from Amethi, once he vacated the seat. On her part, Priyanka has been admonishing workers, and telling UP leaders that they should “now prepare only for 2029 elections” given that they had let the party grievously down.

According to reliable sources, Priyanka withdrew herself at the eleventh hour from a possible fight from Varanasi, thereby upsetting Rahul’s overall poll plans for UP. She and her husband, Robert Vadra, communicated to Rahul that beginning her political career with a loss in her kitty would not warrant well. When Rahul insisted, she asked him to contest from the seat instead. Earlier, Shatrughna Sinha had offered to contest from Varanasi against the Prime Minister, and had claimed that he had been assured of a Rajya Sabha berth in case he was defeated from the holy city; he was asked to return to Patna Saheb, from where he was reluctant to fight, given that it was a strong traditional BJP seat.

It is perceptible that the Gandhis feel misled and even in some cases betrayed by people whom they banked on. Therefore, it is most unlikely that Rahul will cave in to pressure and withdraw his resignation. Now that his Prime Ministerial hopes have been dashed, Rahul seems to be adamant that he will leave leadership of the battle against Narendra Modi and BJP to someone else
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshan » 16 Jun 2019 05:00

Oh so gullible foreign agents being misled by seasoned brown people and not chinese or westerners. Pathetic attempt to earn pity and sympathy. Nehru family was, is, and will remain traitors. The day Indians forget that or think otherwise would be the day they will regret.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby CRamS » 16 Jun 2019 05:08

Anujan wrote:Why the dhoti shiver and towel?



Not sure where the dhoti shiver or towel was in what I said, but just analyzing some op-eds, by Fair Didi, by Klugelman Paki, and Sushant Sareen. We know on BR, but there are 2 key ways to make Pakis change their behavior:

1. Crushing military defeat of TSPA at the hands of Indian military and/or

2. The 'international community' puts the kind of financial squeeze on TSP like they do on Iran/NK which requires not the current wishy washy half-baked acknowledgment of Paki terror against India (and in the next breath doing equal equal with India's military operations in Kashmir), but holding ISI's India-specific (including J&K) terror machine at the same equivalence as Al Queda, ISIS, Hamas aka so called 'global terrorism'.


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