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Orbit better by 6000 km, will give more life to Chandrayaan 2. It did seems as though c25 was refusing to shut off
Mind boggling amount of work was done in next 24 hrs after glitch was detected.
Mind boggling amount of work was done in next 24 hrs after glitch was detected.
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Clinical stuff from ISRO. Helium leak issue found. Communicated. Problem analysis done. Issue fixed. New launch date announced. Launched.
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15 crucial maneuvers over next 1.5 months for satellite team now and then 15 mins of terror
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Successful launch and insertion of spacecraft. Dr Sivan mentioned that there was an over performance leading to a bonus of 6000 km which means that the satellite team have excess fuel available for manouvers.
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Wowww!!!!!
The naughty boy of ISRO is bringing so much glory to the parents.
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PS:- Did someone else noticed that on the time/velocity plotting software on top it was GSAT29 written.
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The naughty boy of ISRO is bringing so much glory to the parents.
3 Cheers
PS:- Did someone else noticed that on the time/velocity plotting software on top it was GSAT29 written.
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Seems an additional 6k got added to the orbit, means lesser fuel usage by orbitre
singha, apparently you need a multiple restartable high-energy stage like khan's venerable Centaur upper-stage for injecting straight into inter-planetary journeys. Check out the difference between MOM's painstaking trajectory and khan's MAVEN. The PSLV upper stage has this capability of multiple relit in space. That capability will be slowly tested out for the CE stages too, now that there is that amazing new vaccum test facility at Mahendragiri
singha, apparently you need a multiple restartable high-energy stage like khan's venerable Centaur upper-stage for injecting straight into inter-planetary journeys. Check out the difference between MOM's painstaking trajectory and khan's MAVEN. The PSLV upper stage has this capability of multiple relit in space. That capability will be slowly tested out for the CE stages too, now that there is that amazing new vaccum test facility at Mahendragiri
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Not just that but net weight injectable woyld be less with direct TLI to moon with GSLV
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Apollo 11 could directly lift 100 tons to GTO ! Moon lander was 13 tons ! Totally different specs.Singha wrote:Apollo11 got to the moon and back in 8 days.
so why is our chandrayaan only getting to the moon in 48 days in early september.
was it because they used the huge Saturn5 rocket to make a direct beeline for the moon instead of slowly doing orbit raising manouvers ?
48 days would have needed a lot of food and o2 for the astronauts which was not feasible.
We can do TLI to moon directly but weight woild be less
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From the plots, there was a slight under performance of the cryo stage.This was apparently more then compensated by the longer burn to depletion.
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Could you post the plot here possibly? Please?juvva wrote:From the plots, there was a slight under performance of the cryo stage.This was apparently more then compensated by the longer burn to depletion.
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-) 6 orbit raising burns at perigee 3, 4, 6, 11, 16, 19 (orbit changes to: 47000km apogee, 243km perigee, 55800km apogee, 71500km apogee, 89700km apogee)
-) Aug. 14 TLI burn at perigee 22 (Note. This may be Republic Day Aug. 15 in India, as it would be nice.)
-) Aug. 20 arrival initial lunar orbit (120km x 18000km)
-) Late August - 4 perilune braking burns
-) Sep. 1 arrival final lunar orbit (100 x 100km)
-) Early September - separation lander/rover (orbit change to 30 x 100km)
-) Sep. 6 - 21:28 UTC landing (Sep. 7 - 2:58am IST)
-) Aug. 14 TLI burn at perigee 22 (Note. This may be Republic Day Aug. 15 in India, as it would be nice.)
-) Aug. 20 arrival initial lunar orbit (120km x 18000km)
-) Late August - 4 perilune braking burns
-) Sep. 1 arrival final lunar orbit (100 x 100km)
-) Early September - separation lander/rover (orbit change to 30 x 100km)
-) Sep. 6 - 21:28 UTC landing (Sep. 7 - 2:58am IST)
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prasannasimha wrote:Apollo 11 could directly lift 100 tons to GTO ! Moon lander was 13 tons ! Totally different specs.Singha wrote:Apollo11 got to the moon and back in 8 days.
so why is our chandrayaan only getting to the moon in 48 days in early september.
was it because they used the huge Saturn5 rocket to make a direct beeline for the moon instead of slowly doing orbit raising manouvers ?
48 days would have needed a lot of food and o2 for the astronauts which was not feasible.
We can do TLI to moon directly but weight woild be less
certainly, but we did not have the benefit of the efforts of many shady and whitewashed germans who were forced to lay the framework for such heavy-lift vehicles.
our chandrayaan is almost completely an SDRE effort.
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Here is the launch video on youtube.Mort Walker wrote:Could you post the plot here possibly? Please?juvva wrote:From the plots, there was a slight under performance of the cryo stage.This was apparently more then compensated by the longer burn to depletion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WO8XVWmJNQ
Please see the plots at 43:04 for example.
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That's ok. Sometimes we aim for the moon, but hit London instead!chetak wrote:
certainly, but we did not have the benefit of the efforts of many shady and whitewashed germans who were forced to lay the framework for such heavy-lift vehicles.
our chandrayaan is almost completely an SDRE effort.
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Looks like ISRO practices Agile/XP/Lean/KanbanNeela wrote:Clinical stuff from ISRO. Helium leak issue found. Communicated. Problem analysis done. Issue fixed. New launch date announced. Launched.
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Just slightly. Let's see what happens when GSAT-20 is put up in Sep. The C-25 cryo engine performance will be an important step when going to the HLV.juvva wrote:Here is the launch video on youtube.Mort Walker wrote:
Could you post the plot here possibly? Please?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WO8XVWmJNQ
Please see the plots at 43:04 for example.
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Whatever one might question about the culture, it speaks volumes that the launch was halted in front of the president of the nation. How many of us would stop a crap project ppt in front of CTO just because some parameters were not great. Hats off to the ISRO guys. These guys should be the role models for entire generationla.khan wrote:Looks like ISRO practices Agile/XP/Lean/KanbanNeela wrote:Clinical stuff from ISRO. Helium leak issue found. Communicated. Problem analysis done. Issue fixed. New launch date announced. Launched.
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The amount of time for orbit raising could probably be trimmed as well as the time spent in lunar orbit. Moon perigee becomes an issue, but I think they could have planned a landing by Republic Day 2019. However, when this launch is nearly 10% of your annual budget, you naturally become more cautious.Singha wrote:Apollo11 got to the moon and back in 8 days.
so why is our chandrayaan only getting to the moon in 48 days in early september.
was it because they used the huge Saturn5 rocket to make a direct beeline for the moon instead of slowly doing orbit raising manouvers ?
48 days would have needed a lot of food and o2 for the astronauts which was not feasible.
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Great job! I could kiss the gentleman saying performance “narmal ”!
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This geeessellvee looks positively mota, not sdre at all. Amazing. As I mentioned, strap a couple more S200 boosters, increase the central tank diameter a bit, and one could lift 16T to GEO. Or stack a series of satellites in a longer tube. Is it limited by G now I wonder, from doing that.
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This is leap beyond 'chalta hai' and jugaad mentality. This is class A perfectionist stuff. I hope people stop calling jugaad to ISRO's missions. I was deeply hurt when indian media called mangalyaan a cheap jugaad.ArjunPandit wrote:Whatever one might question about the culture, it speaks volumes that the launch was halted in front of the president of the nation. How many of us would stop a crap project ppt in front of CTO just because some parameters were not great. Hats off to the ISRO guys. These guys should be the role models for entire generationla.khan wrote: Looks like ISRO practices Agile/XP/Lean/Kanban
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When they showed the required vs. actual trajectories, it looked like Sehwag was batting with Dhawan: the trajectory was way ahead, or was I reading it wrong? At the end of course it was a Dhoniesque finish, right on time.
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Looks like them wily SDREs have imprinted the national emblem on the wheels of the rovers
The graphic before the launch showed the lil rover happily laying down some sweet tread prints with the emblem in it as it motored along..
I really hope we can have pic of those
Well done ISRO!.. make us proud!
The graphic before the launch showed the lil rover happily laying down some sweet tread prints with the emblem in it as it motored along..
I really hope we can have pic of those
Well done ISRO!.. make us proud!
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The plot is a bit confusing. Horizontal axis is time in seconds. White vertical axis shows rel velocity. What is the red vertical axis? Is it altitude? But it doesn't correspond to the read out. At 944.5 secs, read out says altitude is 171.4 km but graph corresponds to 550.
It would seem like under performance but Dr Sivan said over performance by 6000 km.
I have a screen grab at 42 secs but cant figure out how to embed the image here.
It would seem like under performance but Dr Sivan said over performance by 6000 km.
I have a screen grab at 42 secs but cant figure out how to embed the image here.
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U mean sdres are going to put Ophishial 3-lion passport seal all over lunar South Pole aka "New Xinjiang"? And call it "Greater Arunachal"?sudhan wrote:Looks like them wily SDREs have imprinted the national emblem on the wheels of the rovers
The graphic before the launch showed the lil rover happily laying down some sweet tread prints with the emblem in it as it motored along..
When I saw the Lunar Chariot I realized that it could simply drive around in a circle to keep the solar panel always facing the Sun. Duh!
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That's what the ISRO graphic showed, not able to make the tread marks out clearly in pics of the rover.. Will have to wait and seeUlanBatori wrote:U mean sdres are going to put Ophishial 3-lion passport seal all over lunar South Pole aka "New Xinjiang"? And call it "Greater Arunachal"?sudhan wrote:Looks like them wily SDREs have imprinted the national emblem on the wheels of the rovers
The graphic before the launch showed the lil rover happily laying down some sweet tread prints with the emblem in it as it motored along..
When I saw the Lunar Chariot I realized that it could simply drive around in a circle to keep the solar panel always facing the Sun. Duh!
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maybe it wasn't the right anglesudhan wrote:That's what the ISRO graphic showed, not able to make the tread marks out clearly in pics of the rover.. Will have to wait and seeUlanBatori wrote: U mean sdres are going to put Ophishial 3-lion passport seal all over lunar South Pole aka "New Xinjiang"? And call it "Greater Arunachal"?
When I saw the Lunar Chariot I realized that it could simply drive around in a circle to keep the solar panel always facing the Sun. Duh!
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Upper graph is for relative velocity where there seems to be a small under performance towards the end. The lower graph was for the altitude and was tracking as expected (170-180).RonyKJ wrote:The plot is a bit confusing. Horizontal axis is time in seconds. White vertical axis shows rel velocity. What is the red vertical axis? Is it altitude? But it doesn't correspond to the read out. At 944.5 secs, read out says altitude is 171.4 km but graph corresponds to 550.
It would seem like under performance but Dr Sivan said over performance by 6000 km.
I have a screen grab at 42 secs but cant figure out how to embed the image here.
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Congrats Team ISRO, industry and India !!!!
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Noob Question. Why L110 shoots it to 205Kms altitude when required is 170 Kms and when C25 kicks in it starts loosing altitude while gaining RV. Please can any Gurus explain.
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This is done gain RV.ravikr wrote:Noob Question. Why L110 shoots it to 205Kms altitude when required is 170 Kms and when C25 kicks in it starts loosing altitude while gaining RV. Please can any Gurus explain.
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 330567.cms
We know how hard work and performing above and beyond the expectation of the job is the norm at ISRO. And when the chief says the work put in was mind-boggling.. it must have been a himalayan effort indeed..
Again.. my heroes!
These soft spoken brainy SDREs are perfect role models for India's millennials
My heroes.. each and every one of them.Sivan also appreciated the work done by the Isro team in fixing the technical glitch that led to aborting the mission on July 15.
"We had a serious tech snag, and we fixed it. Now Isro bounced back with flying colours. Immediately after the technical snag
observed a week ago, the entire Isro team swung into action. The work that was done in the following 24 hours was mind
boggling. The vehicle was brought back to normal and the root cause of the tech snag was identified and corrected. Everything
happened in 24 hours . In the next one and a half days, the required tests were conducted to ensure that the corrections made
were proper and in the right direction. The vehicle was then handed over to the management for action.”
“It all happened because of the hard work of the team Isro especially engineers, technicians, technical assistants and support
staff… In fact, they forgot their families and sacrificed their time and ensured to fix the snag.
In fact, the expert team constituted
was on the job for the last seven days to ensure that every system functioned properly. My duty is to salute all of them," he
said.
We know how hard work and performing above and beyond the expectation of the job is the norm at ISRO. And when the chief says the work put in was mind-boggling.. it must have been a himalayan effort indeed..
Again.. my heroes!
These soft spoken brainy SDREs are perfect role models for India's millennials
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How dare India launch a mission to the moon when there are starving people in Pakistan.
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How dare India solve glitch in 24 hours when there are sooo many stupid Generals in Pakistan?