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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby abhijitm » 08 Aug 2019 23:18

RajeevK wrote:
CRamS wrote:No, as PM, it is reasonable to give some sense to the nation as to what his plans are to counter TSP's machinations.

The PM is speaking on J&K reorganisation Act, which is India's internal matter. So why involve Pakistan?
And why just Pakistan? Why not China/USA/ ....? Should he speak about them too?

He took name of pakistan in the context of terrorism in J&K. What's so wrong in naming and shaming pakistan?

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Postby KLNMurthy » 08 Aug 2019 23:21

pankajs wrote:
pankajs wrote:Anyway, the first time I heard the slogan "Doodh mango kheer dange, Kashmir mango cheer dange" in what I remember as Bihari accent. No show on Article 370 itself will hand BJP a potent issue when the time comes.
Nitishwa is trying to outrun the issue ...

https://www.financialexpress.com/india- ... l/1669698/
Article 370 scrapped: Nitish Kumar’s JD(U) does a U-turn, says law should be abided by all
The Janata Dal (United) of Nitish Kumar which was facing public ire for taking a stand against the Modi government’s decision to scrap Article 370 from Jammu and Kashmir, has finally struck a reconciliatory note. The party on Wednesday said that the law that had come into force should be abided by all. Party’s national general secretary and Rajya Sabha MP Ram Chandra Prasad Singh said that his party does not wish to engage in further ideological sparring, adding that it will have no bearing on the NDA in Bihar.

Explaining why the JD(U) MPs didn’t support the government in the Parliament, he said, “We could not have supported the bill. We were not consulted by the Centre before it brought the bill.”

Poor Nitishwa. So ambitious. So stupiid.

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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby vijayk » 08 Aug 2019 23:24


नम्रता
@_Namrataa

This has to be a new low for Terroristan! Taliban criticizing them and asking to refrain from violence :rotfl:
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NEW:
Statement coming from Afghan Taliban on Kashmir which calls on both India and Pakistan to refrain from taking steps that could lead to violence AND indirectly criticizes Pakistan for trying to link Afghanistan peace process with Kashmir. (link: https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1 ... 24/photo/1) pic.twitter.com/OggalejVfK

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Postby kit » 08 Aug 2019 23:39

vijayk wrote:

नम्रता
@_Namrataa

This has to be a new low for Terroristan! Taliban criticizing them and asking to refrain from violence :rotfl:
Quote Tweet

F. Jeffery
@Natsecjeff
· 3h
NEW:
Statement coming from Afghan Taliban on Kashmir which calls on both India and Pakistan to refrain from taking steps that could lead to violence AND indirectly criticizes Pakistan for trying to link Afghanistan peace process with Kashmir. (link: https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1 ... 24/photo/1) pic.twitter.com/OggalejVfK


that seems like a tragic comedy for pakistan .. but i think india might be talking to them directly...

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Postby CRamS » 08 Aug 2019 23:40

Rsatchi wrote:http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2019/08/indias-dispute-with-pakistan-over-jammu.html
http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2019/08/ ... istan.html
Look at Col. Shukla.
How did this man serve in the Indian Army.
I wonder to whom did he raise a glass 'in salute' in the Mess


He is borderline a traitor, but definitely a dalali selling his soul to foreign bidders for p!ssing on India. This guy is shameless. And the other day from TimesNow, I also learnt that he was actually a student of the General G.D.Bakshi and can't believe this puke (Ajai Shukla) turned out to be such a rotten apple. And also glance at his twitter line, he is a standard Lutyen elite, good English, p!ssing on his own Hindu people and mocking them as 'bhakts', obsessed with bogus 'secularism' as a way to obfuscate his self loathing Hindu heritage aka colonial disease.

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Postby vijayk » 08 Aug 2019 23:43

^^ He is an arms agent who was kicked out by Modi. He is co-brother of Shourie

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Postby Rishirishi » 08 Aug 2019 23:51

kit wrote:
vijayk wrote:


that seems like a tragic comedy for pakistan .. but i think india might be talking to them directly...



WOW :shock: This must really hurt

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Postby ArjunPandit » 09 Aug 2019 00:02

shuklaji he was married to someone from congress and had divorce and was vociferous on rafale case...he's been an arjun supporter and his name appears on the atlantic council report that recommended vacation of siachen as a journalist

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Postby Katare » 09 Aug 2019 00:13

Shukla’s been taken by the dark side!!

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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby saip » 09 Aug 2019 00:46

I like the Pakistan Occupied Residual Kashmir (PORK). No wonder with so much pork with Pakistan no one from the Ummah is touching it.

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Postby Amber G. » 09 Aug 2019 00:49

Meanwhile from Ajit Doval's tweet.. a beautiful picture from Kashmir..
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Postby UlanBatori » 09 Aug 2019 00:54

This is a continuing jhapad. Who is this anchor? An absolute riot. The Paki there, Kamath, MUST be raa agint: he is ripping Pakistan apart every time he opens his mouth, much better than Indians are doing to them.

Nice video of Samjhauta express coming in for (I hope) the last time before PORK-ajaadi.
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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby UlanBatori » 09 Aug 2019 00:55

:rotfl: Also hu eej this Vance bin Gora, hain?

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Postby vijayk » 09 Aug 2019 01:25



News18
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#NewsAlert - Pakistan can restore diplomatic ties with India if New Delhi reviews its decision on the abrogation of #Article370: Pak Foreign Minister, Shah Mehmood Qureshi.

#PakUnderPressure


But why would we want to do that? hum pagal ho gaya kya???? :rotfl:
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Postby pankajs » 09 Aug 2019 01:32

Now beepul far and wide are coming around ....

https://www.wsj.com/articles/indias-kas ... 1565122618
Kashmir’s Loss of Autonomy Clouds Afghan Peace Efforts
NEW DELHI—India’s historic move to end the autonomous governing status of a disputed region threatens to complicate U.S. efforts to forge a peace deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan, while Indian authorities locked down the streets of Kashmir.
Rest is behind paywall.

Frump/Jooyes tried to pull a fast one on Modi/India and Mudi played his own card.

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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby Rudradev » 09 Aug 2019 01:38

vijayk wrote:



F. Jeffery
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Statement coming from Afghan Taliban on Kashmir which calls on both India and Pakistan to refrain from taking steps that could lead to violence AND indirectly criticizes Pakistan for trying to link Afghanistan peace process with Kashmir. (link: https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1 ... 24/photo/1) pic.twitter.com/OggalejVfK


I have a Chankian theory.

The Taliban of today (and of tomorrow, if given a chance to form Afghan govt) are very, very far from the Taliban of the 1990s.

The Taliban of the 1990s were much, much more dependent on (and trusting of) Pakistan. To some extent KSA as well, but primarily Pakistan. The rest of the world viewed them, at least officially, as a pariah rogue state.

If Taliban plays a dominant role in the Afghan govt in future it will be a very different beast.

Firstly, it will have won open and official recognition from the US (and hence the whole international community). Hence, its diplomatic and economic dependence on Pakis/ISI will be much less. It will be a legitimate organization recognized as the ruling party in a UN member state.

Secondly it has learned some hard lessons about TSPA/ISI over the past two decades. It will surely remember things like the ISI's betrayal of Mullah Baradar and Mullah Akhtar Mansour. It will not forget how Islamabad-pasand leaders like the Haqqanis were elevated while other leaders inconvenient to the ISI were either assassinated or sold down the river to the Yanquis.

SO: if Taliban really does expect to come to power in Kabul, it also recognizes that the Pakis are unreliable at best and hostile anti-Pashtun hegemons at worst. Therefore, the Taliban today recognizes that it too will need strong leverage against Pakistani intervention, subversion, bullying etc. in the Afghanistan it hopes to rule one day.

Who is the best source of that leverage? Who can heat up the Pakis' other border and divert TSPA from operations in or near Afghanistan, as needed?

Even in 1999, under firm ISI control, the Taliban did its best not to aggravate the IC814 situation beyond a point. They did not permit further killings of Indian passengers on the tarmac in Kadahar, and ensured as far as they could that the hostages were handed over unharmed after the exchange of Masood Azhar and his cohort, without the sort of wholesale slaughter that other ISI-sponsored Tanzeems like LeT or JeM might have engaged in. Even then, they set limits when it came to provoking India.

Today they are openly refusing to take sides on the 370 issue. And the more Pakistan insists on using Kashmir as an issue to blackmail Trump regarding the Afghanistan negotiations, the bigger the rift between Pakis and the Taliban will get.

Not that they will ever be an "ally" exactly, but the Taliban can be useful to India. Old paradigms like "Afghan mujahedin will be diverted in droves to J&K for terrorism" may not be fully applicable in this day and age-- simply because ISI control over the Afghan mujahedin is nothing like it was in the 1980s and 90s. Why will they want to come to J&K and die, when there are spoils to fight for right there in AfPak? Some (like the ISI-pasand Haqqani and other units) MAY be diverted... but even they will be busy jockeying for power in a post-Ghani Afghanistan, and will need to keep their manpower in the locality to consolidate this because they will not fully trust the ISI to manoeuvre on their behalf. The vast bulk of the Taliban will go back to fighting each other, the Tajiks, the Uzbeks, and the Hazaras... and hopefully, fighting the Pakis/Chinese as well.
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Postby Lisa » 09 Aug 2019 01:41

POK is ours.

Could anyone care to name processes by which instability can be created in POK that might cause its fracture from TSP. I can see for one, how over a period of time, financial empowerment and an increase in opportunity both by inward investment and access to government schemes in Jammu and Kashmir and the advertisement of their success to parties in POK can cause the build up of friction that may contribute to instability, ie how do we leverage 370's abrogation to destabilise POK.

Anyone care to add.

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Postby UlanBatori » 09 Aug 2019 01:42

Jhapad from .... Frontlyin Al-Lie and Primary Suckers :(( :((
US warns Pakistan against any infiltration, says Trump govt is watching India's Kashmir move
The US has asked Pakistan to practice restraint on Kashmir issue after the Imran Khan govt expelled the Indian High Commissioner.


"Pakistan must refrain from any retaliatory aggression, including support for infiltrations across the Line of Control, and take demonstrable action against the terrorist infrastructure on Pakistan's soil, they said in the statement. :((
The State Department spokesperson said that "the US calls for calm and restraint by all parties".
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Postby Lisa » 09 Aug 2019 01:44

pankajs wrote:Now beepul far and wide are coming around ....

https://www.wsj.com/articles/indias-kas ... 1565122618
Kashmir’s Loss of Autonomy Clouds Afghan Peace Efforts
NEW DELHI—India’s historic move to end the autonomous governing status of a disputed region threatens to complicate U.S. efforts to forge a peace deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan, while Indian authorities locked down the streets of Kashmir.
Rest is behind paywall.

Frump/Jooyes tried to pull a fast one on Modi/India and Mudi played his own card.


Just Control P to print and the whole article will appear!

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Postby pankajs » 09 Aug 2019 01:53

Lisa wrote:Just Control P to print and the whole article will appear!

Didn't work for me on Firefox or Opera.

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Postby UlanBatori » 09 Aug 2019 01:54

The order from SDOTUS to Pak sounds like a standard GUBO order, hain? Ringing endorsement of the Paki cause. Recognition for Terrorist Infrastructure!

The serial sprinting - to US, to UN, to KSA, now to Bilayat... seems pretty desperate.
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Postby pankajs » 09 Aug 2019 01:56

pankajs wrote:Now beepul far and wide are coming around ....

https://www.wsj.com/articles/indias-kas ... 1565122618
Kashmir’s Loss of Autonomy Clouds Afghan Peace Efforts
NEW DELHI—India’s historic move to end the autonomous governing status of a disputed region threatens to complicate U.S. efforts to forge a peace deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan, while Indian authorities locked down the streets of Kashmir.
Rest is behind paywall.

Frump/Jooyes tried to pull a fast one on Modi/India and Mudi played his own card.

https://twitter.com/saadmohseni/status/ ... 0494988288
Saad Mohseni @saadmohseni

One can only also argue that Trump’s decision to weigh in on the Kashmir issue coupled with Washington’s decision to heavily rely on Islamabad/Rawalpindi re Afghan peace talks most probably fast tracked India’s decision vis a vis Kashmir

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Postby CRamS » 09 Aug 2019 01:59

Guys, latest libtrad rope trick is this. And I am seeing this narrative being spun by the usual suspects, print, undy etc. And that is that 370 was actually developing the valley. That sly Jihadi on Undy, Nasoor whatever reporting from the valley claiming how 370 gave everyone land, how 370 is so progressive that 50% reservation for women, valley is sooooo progressing because of 370. Some propaganda.

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Postby pankajs » 09 Aug 2019 02:02

CRamS wrote:Guys, latest libtrad rope trick is this. And I am seeing this narrative being spun by the usual suspects, print, undy etc. And that is that 370 was actually developing the valley. That sly Jihadi on Undy, Nasoor whatever reporting from the valley claiming how 370 gave everyone land, how 370 is so progressive that 50% reservation for women, valley is sooooo progressing because of 370. Some propaganda.

That's fine CRS ... doesn't matter.

However, if you get triggered and want to respond, get the list of the Indian laws that were kept out of erstwhile J&K state using 35A enabled by 370 and read it to who ever you are addressing. Would make a highly enlightening (horrifying) read.

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Postby Bart S » 09 Aug 2019 02:03

UlanBatori wrote:Jhapad from .... Frontlyin Al-Lie and Primary Suckers :(( :((
US warns Pakistan against any infiltration, says Trump govt is watching India's Kashmir move
The US has asked Pakistan to practice restraint on Kashmir issue after the Imran Khan govt expelled the Indian High Commissioner.


"Pakistan must refrain from any retaliatory aggression, including support for infiltrations across the Line of Control, and take demonstrable action against the terrorist infrastructure on Pakistan's soil, they said in the statement. :((
The State Department spokesperson said that "the US calls for calm and restraint by all parties".


It is a poorly drafted and structured article. The advice to Pakis in red is not from SD but from two congressmen.

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Postby pankajs » 09 Aug 2019 02:04

No need to be upset ... just for future references

https://twitter.com/IntizarZaidi/status ... 5804020737
Intizar Zaidi @IntizarZaidi

Shame on Canada’s @NDP
for becoming a mouthpiece of Pakistan’s jihad-promoting terror-backing ISI. Who could've imagined the party of Ed Broadbent and ⁦@BobRae48⁩ would back Pakistan's military dictatorship and its jihadi mullahs against India.

It has the link to the original on which this is a comment.

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Postby Manu » 09 Aug 2019 02:23

UlanBatori wrote::rotfl: Also hu eej this Vance bin Gora, hain?


With 1.2 MILLION Pakistanis in UK, and 3.5 Million Peacefuls overall, any actual Anglo feels the same way. Stabbings and White Girl Grooming gangs are all Paki. They make up 15% of the UK prison population. Imagine. With such a small % of overall population, they can cause so much devastation.

He is part of the Alt-Right in UK. They don't really care for any brown folk, just that we are convenient to them at this time, as their #1 enemy is Pakis.

US has wisely kept the number of Pakis down to ~300K. For the UK, I'm afraid there is no turning back now.

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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby rgosain » 09 Aug 2019 02:27

CRamS wrote:Guys, latest libtrad rope trick is this. And I am seeing this narrative being spun by the usual suspects, print, undy etc. And that is that 370 was actually developing the valley. That sly Jihadi on Undy, Nasoor whatever reporting from the valley claiming how 370 gave everyone land, how 370 is so progressive that 50% reservation for women, valley is sooooo progressing because of 370. Some propaganda.


It is good to remind people that the only country that praised Nehru for art70 was apartheid South Africa - yes you heard it right. Kashmir yoked with Ladakh and Jammu under 370 provided the framework for the Bantustan policy policy which saw the creation of racially and tribally segregated states such as Transkei etc with their own laws, security forces and development policy. It was only in 1994, that these were reincorporated into the post apartheid SA now under democracy and a uniform rule of law.
The newly liberated ladakh and jammu can now be fully incorporated within the Indian Union in a similar manner.

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Postby pankajs » 09 Aug 2019 02:38

This is getting hilarious. That bleddy Mudi has lighted a fire that is spreading rapidly.

https://twitter.com/AmarSinghTweets/sta ... 4091489282
Amar Singh @AmarSinghTweets

In life the most difficult moment is to criticise someone well known but I strongly condemn #GulamNabiAzad’s derogatory comment on NSA #AjitDoval. If the same comment is levelled against him that his comments on #Article370 are in tune with #ImranKhan than? @INCIndia
@BJP4India

You might want to watch the embedded video.

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Postby V_Raman » 09 Aug 2019 03:17

Rudradev wrote:Today they are openly refusing to take sides on the 370 issue. And the more Pakistan insists on using Kashmir as an issue to blackmail Trump regarding the Afghanistan negotiations, the bigger the rift between Pakis and the Taliban will get.


Makes sense. Maybe that is why Pak is linking Kashmir to AFG before Taliban takes over. They thought it will happen with international mediation etc. without the linking coming to public domain. But MSD recognized this and shook the chessboard with public abrogation of 370. Consequently forcing the tenuous Pak/Taliban link into the public domain.

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Postby Chinmayanand » 09 Aug 2019 04:20

pankajs wrote:
Lisa wrote:Just Control P to print and the whole article will appear!

Didn't work for me on Firefox or Opera.

Copy the headline and paste into google search.
On the coming result wsj page , click and voila ! you get to read full article without subscription.

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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby Manu » 09 Aug 2019 04:35

https://www.wsj.com/articles/indias-kashmir-move-could-complicate-u-s-efforts-to-forge-afghan-peace-11565122618
Kashmir’s Loss of Autonomy Clouds Afghan Peace Efforts
India’s removal of disputed region’s autonomous governing status sparks Pakistan’s anger; both nations are seen as critical to efforts to reach an accord with the Taliban
By Bill Spindle and Saeed Shah
Updated Aug. 6, 2019 4:43 pm ET
NEW DELHI—India’s historic move to end the autonomous governing status of a disputed region threatens to complicate U.S. efforts to forge a peace deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan, while Indian authorities locked down the streets of Kashmir.

The spike in tensions between Pakistan and India over the change of Kashmir’s status come as Taliban peace talks appear to have reached a critical final stage. Senior U.S. officials flew into New Delhi and Islamabad—trips they and their host countries said were planned before India acted on Monday—as Washington sought to build regional support for a critical agreement with the Taliban that Pakistan is expected to play a key role in helping deliver and U.S. officials hope India will support.

Pakistan said the tensions with India force Islamabad to focus its attention and troops on its eastern border with India, not its northwestern border with Afghanistan. In the 1990s, India and Pakistan conducted a proxy battle in Afghanistan, fueling a civil war there, and even after 2001, New Delhi and Islamabad saw themselves as backing different sides. [The Pakiness of Saeed Shah comes through here]

Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan even warned that India’s actions could trigger a war.

While India regards Kashmir’s status as a domestic matter, its move to put separate disputed parts of it claimed by Pakistan and China under New Delhi’s direct control has broader implications in a region where the two nuclear-armed countries have fought multiple wars against India, which also is nuclear armed.

Kashmir was quiet on Tuesday, as telephone and internet connections were suspended. Authorities, backed up by thousands of paramilitary soldiers that were added to the usual heavy military presence over the weekend, imposed a complete ban on meetings and rallies, kept local political leaders confined to their homes, closed schools and restricted public thoroughfares in the capital Srinagar, local police said.

China said the Indian move would “undermine China’s territorial sovereignty,” while Pakistan’s army chief said his country would go to any extent to support Kashmir’s population against New Delhi’s action to exercise more control over the area.

Indian leaders say the state’s autonomy, first granted in 1950, encouraged militancy and separatist sentiment and removing it would help attract investment and improve economic ties to the rest of the country.

The Kashmir turmoil, however, could threaten the Trump administration’s push for a deal if Pakistan-India tensions become a lasting distraction or spill over to a fresh military confrontation. They exchanged airstrikes in February, and almost continuously exchange gun and artillery fire across a line of control in Kashmir where their two armies have faced off for many decades.
The Trump administration invited Mr. Khan and Gen. Qamar Bajwa, the powerful head of Pakistan’s army, to Washington in July to enlist further help in persuading the Taliban, whose leadership is based in Pakistan, to agree to a cease-fire and deal directly with the Afghan government about the country’s future—key elements of any deal for U.S. officials.

The Pakistani officials, who held high-level meetings in Washington, were thrilled when President Trump created an uproar by saying he had been invited by the leaders of India and Pakistan to mediate the Kashmir dispute.

Pakistan has long called for international intervention in Kashmir, but India reiterated that it has long refused any third-party involvement, making clear it hadn’t invited Mr. Trump to intervene.

The Pakistanis’ successful Washington visit may have persuaded Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his dominant Bharatiya Janata Party to press ahead urgently with the Kashmir move, which the party had long advocated.

Pakistan accuses the BJP, which promotes the Hindu religion as the essence of India, of ethnic cleansing in Kashmir, a Muslim-majority area where outsiders will now be able to settle more easily. [Saeed, once a Paki, always a terrorist and liar]

“Trump seemed to cut some slack for Pakistan on terrorism and Kashmir in return for helping extricate the U.S. from Afghanistan. That changed the equation,” said C. Raja Mohan, director of the Institute of South Asian Studies at the National University of Singapore. “Pakistan now thinks the pressure will be on India. But the U.S. cannot force India to negotiate with Pakistan. India has learned to navigate pressures from the U.S.”

Mr. Mohan said India fears that after a settlement in Afghanistan, Pakistan would direct more of the Pakistani-allied jihadist groups, who operate in Afghanistan and Kashmir, against India.

Yet the Indian move also has provided a rallying cry for Pakistani leaders, who said it could force them to focus more effort on their dispute with India than issues in Afghanistan, where the U.S. wants their focus on the Taliban.

“We will fight to the last drop of our blood. It will be a war that no one can win,” Mr. Khan told a special session of Parliament on Tuesday. “I’m not doing nuclear blackmail, I’m appealing to common sense. Is the world prepared for the worst?”

On Sunday, amid signs a major move from India in Kashmir was imminent, Pakistan’s National Security Council, which includes the top civilian and military leadership, met to discuss the conflict and explicitly linked the deteriorating situation in Kashmir to Afghanistan.

“The forum strongly condemned such Indian strategy at this time when Pakistan and the international community are focused on resolving the Afghan conflict. The recent Indian measures will increase the levels of violence and turn this area into a flashpoint and a destabilizing factor in the midst of two strategically capable neighboring countries,” the council said after the meeting.

In India, debate over the decision continued.

Rahul Gandhi, leader of the opposition National Congress Party, which once dominated India’s political landscape, tweeted criticism of the BJP over the decision for the first time.

“National integration isn’t furthered by unilaterally tearing apart J&K, imprisoning elected representatives and violating our Constitution. This nation is made by its people, not plots of land. This abuse of executive power has grave implications for our national security,” he tweeted.

BJP supporters and other parliamentarians, however, backed the measures and they passed the lower house easily.

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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby Roop » 09 Aug 2019 05:30

Lisa wrote:Just Control P to print and the whole article will appear!


Ah, nice to know, I didn't know that. Noted for future reference.

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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby UlanBatori » 09 Aug 2019 05:38

It STILL hasn't dawned on the dumbasses in Duplicity, that the reason they are in trouble in Afghanistan, 18 years after going in there, is that PAKISTAN WON'T ALLOW peace in Afghanistan? And that their criminal friends in the Deep State want it that way?

Solution is simple: Pakistanlessness.

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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby Shanmukh » 09 Aug 2019 05:47

https://twitter.com/LiamByrneMP/status/ ... 3389218816

Any idea who this cretin is? I get it that he is a British MP, but what is his takleef about Article 370? Or is this a case of empiritis?

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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby sum » 09 Aug 2019 05:50

pankajs wrote:This is getting hilarious. That bleddy Mudi has lighted a fire that is spreading rapidly.

https://twitter.com/AmarSinghTweets/sta ... 4091489282
Amar Singh @AmarSinghTweets

In life the most difficult moment is to criticise someone well known but I strongly condemn #GulamNabiAzad’s derogatory comment on NSA #AjitDoval. If the same comment is levelled against him that his comments on #Article370 are in tune with #ImranKhan than? @INCIndia
@BJP4India

You might want to watch the embedded video.

What did Azad say now? :-?

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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby saip » 09 Aug 2019 06:41

Shanmukh wrote:https://twitter.com/LiamByrneMP/status/1159082763389218816

Any idea who this cretin is? I get it that he is a British MP, but what is his takleef about Article 370? Or is this a case of empiritis?

His constituency has 42% peacefools. They are in majority.

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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby Shanmukh » 09 Aug 2019 06:46

saip wrote:
Shanmukh wrote:https://twitter.com/LiamByrneMP/status/1159082763389218816

Any idea who this cretin is? I get it that he is a British MP, but what is his takleef about Article 370? Or is this a case of empiritis?

His constituency has 42% peacefools. They are in majority.


Ahh - thanks.

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Re: Articles 370 and 35A Repealed, J&K and Ladakh to be Separate Union Territories

Postby Suraj » 09 Aug 2019 07:10

Please post a screenshot of his constituency demographics and show everyone that . Chumps like him need to grovel online .


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