India Border Watch: Security and Operations

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ramana » 20 Aug 2019 00:21

This is a chota Sialkot across the LOC.
Not the Sialkot in Pakjab.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby khan » 20 Aug 2019 00:23

^ thank you saar - didn’t know about Chota Sailkot.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ramana » 20 Aug 2019 00:26

Folks how come no discussion of the cross LOC actions since 5th August?
Or are we to high and mighty and ignore baba banaras type twitter feeds?

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Aditya G » 20 Aug 2019 03:54

ramana wrote:Folks how come no discussion of the cross LOC actions since 5th August?
Or are we to high and mighty and ignore baba banaras type twitter feeds?


We should not ignore any cross LoC actions - big or small.

However, these fake news twitter handles should be avoided completely.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby krishna_krishna » 20 Aug 2019 04:02

There are pics of movement in Rawalpindi on Twitter of heavy artillery (M-109paladin), looks like they are deploying their strike core. IMHO it took more time to deploy for them since I thought they are quick to deploy, I believe since Bajwa has been given extension he plans some misadventure.

As said earlier they have no choice but respond in some fashion. I just hope we give back big time on years of losses at LOC.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby vasu raya » 20 Aug 2019 04:20

^^^
Seems like the scene is set, per news reports the bunch of terrorists who infiltrated are still on the loose, the probable spark for a chain reaction.

atleast bababanaras creates that vision

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby khan » 20 Aug 2019 08:48

krishna_krishna wrote:There are pics of movement in Rawalpindi on Twitter of heavy artillery (M-109paladin), looks like they are deploying their strike core. IMHO it took more time to deploy for them since I thought they are quick to deploy, I believe since Bajwa has been given extension he plans some misadventure.

As said earlier they have no choice but respond in some fashion. I just hope we give back big time on years of losses at LOC.

This fits with Trumps tweets. They will create a Cashmere “crisis” across the LOC & use it to bring Cashmere to the UN again.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby williams » 20 Aug 2019 09:31

khan wrote:
krishna_krishna wrote:There are pics of movement in Rawalpindi on Twitter of heavy artillery (M-109paladin), looks like they are deploying their strike core. IMHO it took more time to deploy for them since I thought they are quick to deploy, I believe since Bajwa has been given extension he plans some misadventure.

As said earlier they have no choice but respond in some fashion. I just hope we give back big time on years of losses at LOC.

This fits with Trumps tweets. They will create a Cashmere “crisis” across the LOC & use it to bring Cashmere to the UN again.


With some Arty deployment and few piglets in the loose? :D I don't think so.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby pankajs » 20 Aug 2019 09:44

khan wrote:
krishna_krishna wrote:There are pics of movement in Rawalpindi on Twitter of heavy artillery (M-109paladin), looks like they are deploying their strike core. IMHO it took more time to deploy for them since I thought they are quick to deploy, I believe since Bajwa has been given extension he plans some misadventure.

As said earlier they have no choice but respond in some fashion. I just hope we give back big time on years of losses at LOC.

This fits with Trumps tweets. They will create a Cashmere “crisis” across the LOC & use it to bring Cashmere to the UN again.

Who are "they"?

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby khan » 20 Aug 2019 10:44

They = TSPA.

Some fake crisis on the loc to attract more international attention is the only card they have left.

This UN road-show & Trump tweeting will on encourage them. They now feel like people are paying attention & maybe if they just up the ante a little bit...

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby sajaym » 20 Aug 2019 10:49

krishna_krishna wrote:There are pics of movement in Rawalpindi on Twitter of heavy artillery (M-109paladin).


Awesome news! Aan deo. Nice time to try out the K-9 Vajras!

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ArjunPandit » 20 Aug 2019 13:54

there seems to be a sudden spurt in the news of SSG and other uniformed jihadis getting slaughtered. Obviously unconfirmed news on twitter. Our haridasji sharing quite a lot of such images
https://twitter.com/Nexoft117/status/11 ... 96/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Nexoft117/status/11 ... 8217055233
https://twitter.com/Nexoft117/status/11 ... 7047231488
https://twitter.com/Nexoft117/status/11 ... 5898489857
https://twitter.com/Nexoft117/status/11 ... 5164308480
..Nexoft117 twitter handle has shared many such pics..

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Aditya_V » 20 Aug 2019 15:04

Where is the PAF, its time some JF-17 also attain shahadat

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ArjunPandit » 20 Aug 2019 15:17

baba banaras mentioned about enemy fighters in air..

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby A Deshmukh » 20 Aug 2019 15:33

there is a tweet of Dawn headline of 8 SSG killed in shelling.
this somewhat validates bababanaras.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby mmasand » 20 Aug 2019 16:17

Look away from the LoC momentarily, I feel it's a diversion. There has been incessant number of transport/ferry flights to Skardu from Pindi. Surely something in the works, several IAF movements too yest in Punjab and night sorties (I assume DCA's) north of Haryana.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby g.sarkar » 20 Aug 2019 16:57

ArjunPandit wrote:there seems to be a sudden spurt in the news of SSG and other uniformed jihadis getting slaughtered. Obviously unconfirmed news on twitter. Our haridasji sharing quite a lot of such images
https://twitter.com/Nexoft117/status/11 ... 96/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Nexoft117/status/11 ... 8217055233
https://twitter.com/Nexoft117/status/11 ... 7047231488
https://twitter.com/Nexoft117/status/11 ... 5898489857
https://twitter.com/Nexoft117/status/11 ... 5164308480
..Nexoft117 twitter handle has shared many such pics..

Panditji,
Most of the soldiers mentioned are of low rank, not officers. They breed like roaches and the Pak army treats them like roaches. PA does not care if such people die at LOC. They are easily replaceable.
Gautam

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Aditya_V » 20 Aug 2019 17:03

Not really, soldiers require pensions and Paki nobody likes to die and require some degree of education- not easy to find in Pakistan. Jihadis die early and our generally less educated. Jihadi only needs to know how to shoot rifles, motor, engineering, artillery all require some amount of Maths ability. In Madrassa educated

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ArjunPandit » 20 Aug 2019 17:07

gauti ji,
Even if I agnore the points of Aditya ji above and think that they may be easily replaceable, but it's a process that takes time and costs money to train or at least ammo to shoot. Not sure of time but quite certain they dont have enough money. Getting folks promoted quickly may be an option but it's more often than not its a compromise on skill and experience. Also, the battle hardening also helps bearing the pressure rather than surrendering posts or running back.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Bart S » 20 Aug 2019 17:39

It is also a blow to their phony psyche where they are taught that they are invincible and equivalent to 10 kaffir, even worse if the public find out about it, which is why they hide casualties.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby krishna_krishna » 20 Aug 2019 17:44

mmasand wrote:Look away from the LoC momentarily, I feel it's a diversion. There has been incessant number of transport/ferry flights to Skardu from Pindi. Surely something in the works, several IAF movements too yest in Punjab and night sorties (I assume DCA's) north of Haryana.


Next FATF meeting to review Pakistan is on September 17, once they are off that list on 17th then they start whatever is the plan, till then they will sit tight. Watch out after Sep 17

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ramana » 20 Aug 2019 21:34

If any of you frequent forums do watch for news of Pindi staff meetings by Corpse commanders or boycott.
The Pak Bar Council released letter of disapproval of Gen. Bajwa extension.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby vasu raya » 20 Aug 2019 21:56

IAF always cautious and alert: Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa

the reference to purulia arms drop case caught my attention

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ArjunPandit » 20 Aug 2019 23:00

May be OT for this thread but one of the many conspiracy theories, there was a chatter of IAF voluntarily switching off radars to ensure that the planes are let in. This was to provide arms to anandmargis to counter leftists. One of the pilot/crew was russian and was let off at the request of Putin by ABV IIRC

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Vips » 21 Aug 2019 03:45

krishna_krishna wrote:
mmasand wrote:Look away from the LoC momentarily, I feel it's a diversion. There has been incessant number of transport/ferry flights to Skardu from Pindi. Surely something in the works, several IAF movements too yest in Punjab and night sorties (I assume DCA's) north of Haryana.


Next FATF meeting to review Pakistan is on September 17, once they are off that list on 17th then they start whatever is the plan, till then they will sit tight. Watch out after Sep 17


Do not want to be OT here. They are not going to get off the list. The issue is will they remain on the grey list or get on the black list. To get off the grey list they need 9 votes which they do not have.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby khan » 21 Aug 2019 09:06

Saw on Twitter TSP Senate member wanted to know how many Rats were exterminated & was told this was sensitive info.

Guess there is a limit to the casualties they can quietly take & we are seeing it.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Prem Kumar » 21 Aug 2019 09:24

Excellent!

Focus on DGMO level talks and Track-II should be about agreeing:
1) How many rats can we kill
2) How many surgical strikes can we conduct
3) How many HVTs, jernail families can be bump of
4) How much land can we re-take

…… while mutually agreeing that we will both keep it quiet. We should help them manage their media to claim that Pakis are winning. TSP-Army gets to keep their H&D intact. They can continue their 1 momeen = 10 kufr myth. We keep killing.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby banrjeer » 21 Aug 2019 11:23

The kill rate should be kept at a liquid oxygen level at all times.
If there was advance towards Skardu, The Cheenee would not be too active. It's not close to their highway.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Aditya_V » 21 Aug 2019 11:45

khan wrote:Saw on Twitter TSP Senate member wanted to know how many Rats were exterminated & was told this was sensitive info.

Guess there is a limit to the casualties they can quietly take & we are seeing it.


Can we know the senator's name so we can also check the tweet

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Kashi » 21 Aug 2019 13:02

Aditya_V wrote:
khan wrote:Saw on Twitter TSP Senate member wanted to know how many Rats were exterminated & was told this was sensitive info.

Guess there is a limit to the casualties they can quietly take & we are seeing it.


Can we know the senator's name so we can also check the tweet


Appeared two years ago in YAWN

Number of martyred troops can’t be disclosed, Senate told


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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ArjunPandit » 21 Aug 2019 16:59

https://twitter.com/stranger0968/status ... 6192756736

could it be a disinformation campaign?

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Aditya_V » 21 Aug 2019 18:12

ArjunPandit wrote:https://twitter.com/stranger0968/status/1164094826192756736

could it be a disinformation campaign?


I saw a report on times of India but that states Indian Army truck.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby khan » 21 Aug 2019 18:59

Aditya_V wrote:
khan wrote:Saw on Twitter TSP Senate member wanted to know how many Rats were exterminated & was told this was sensitive info.

Guess there is a limit to the casualties they can quietly take & we are seeing it.


Can we know the senator's name so we can also check the tweet

I’ll keep an eye out for it. It could have been an old report that resurfaced as someone pointed out. IIRC it was an MQM Senator,

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ramana » 21 Aug 2019 20:32

ArjunPandit wrote:https://twitter.com/stranger0968/status/1164094826192756736

could it be a disinformation campaign?



Location Barmer is in Rajasthan. Could be true.
No need to dismiss all as disinfo.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ramana » 21 Aug 2019 20:32



In future try to post the text or screenshot as the tweet could be deleted.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ArjunPandit » 21 Aug 2019 20:34

there was video in that sir, in fact babaji deleted that tweet saying that the operation is ongoing after i pasted it here..

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ArjunPandit » 21 Aug 2019 20:36

I deleted my last video tweet. I think details of ongoing ops should not be posted on social media...

Sorry guys

Currently Heavy cross border shelling is going on at 2 places along LoC

baba banaras after deleting tweet

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ramana » 21 Aug 2019 20:38

Ok. Thanks.

He made a few posts in last week that show a qualitative increase in Indian artillery effectiveness.
Sorry to use jargon or management speak.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Iyersan » 21 Aug 2019 20:53

Government sources: Pakistan Army has deployed its Special Service Group (SSG) commandos along the Sir Creek area in Gujarat. The post where the SSG commandos have been deployed is known as the Iqbal-Bajwa. The SSG commandos may be used for anti-India activities in the region. https://t.co/WoouvQpe0W


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