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Postby Peregrine » 11 Sep 2019 00:30

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Postby Peregrine » 11 Sep 2019 01:24

Fully Poted on the J&K Union Territory Thread
Pakistan’s Kashmir Narrative Is Falling Flat. How Might That Change? - Murtaza Solangi

Murtaza Solangi is a prominent Pakistani journalist and former head of the national radio of Pakistan.
Murtaza Solangi is a prominent Pakistani journalist and former head of the national radio of Pakistan.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby g.sarkar » 11 Sep 2019 10:36

https://www.sify.com/sports/pakistan-bl ... ebfaa.html
Pakistan blames India for Sri Lankan players' tour boycott
New Delhi: A Pakistan Minister on Tuesday made an outrageous claim after 10 Sri Lankan players decided to opt out of an upcoming Pakistan tour. Science and Technology Minister Fawad Hussain Chaudhry said India has threatened the players from the island nation against participating in the upcoming series against the Men in Green. He even claimed that India could have used threats that the Sri Lankan players would lose their IPL contracts if they travelled to Pakistan. "Informed sports commentators told me that India threatened SL players that they will be ousted from IPL if they don't refuse Pak visit, this is really cheap tactic, jingoism from sports to space is something we must condemn, really cheap on the part of Indian sports authorities," Chaudhry tweeted.
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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby sudhan » 11 Sep 2019 10:59

Their dumbass minister fell for a prank by a prominent twitter user

Read and enjoy!

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/as-p ... -for-jokes

Cabbages seem intelligent next to this gent

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Deans » 11 Sep 2019 11:17

Peregrine wrote:Fully Poted on the J&K Union Territory Thread
Pakistan’s Kashmir Narrative Is Falling Flat. How Might That Change? - Murtaza Solangi

Murtaza Solangi is a prominent Pakistani journalist and former head of the national radio of Pakistan.
Murtaza Solangi is a prominent Pakistani journalist and former head of the national radio of Pakistan.

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Some of it is true, he had better seek asylum in India.

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Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Peregrine » 11 Sep 2019 14:36

US adds TTP chief Noor Wali Mehsud on global terror list - Our Correspondent
ISLAMABAD: The United States on Tuesday designated the chief of the banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Noor Wali Mehsud as a global terrorist and imposed sanctions on multiple “terrorists and their supporters”.
Mehsud took over the TTP in June 2018 following the death of Mullah Fazlullah in Afghanistan.
President Donald Trump signed an executive order “modernising and strengthening sanctions authorities to combat terrorism”, said a press statement by the US State Department. The order was signed on the 18th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.
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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Philip » 11 Sep 2019 16:06

On the 18th. anniversary of 9/11, an act more diabolic than that on Pearl Harbour, killing more Americans in the multiple terror attacks, we must remember where the arch- criminal of terror, mastermind of 9/11 was eventually found after years of unsuccessful searching, in PAKISTAN, living in comfort right next to a prominent military base ( for his protection)! The world has however yet to punish Pak for its obvious complicity in 9/11 and even the follow-on attacks in Bombay on 26/11. In both attacks thousands in 9/11 and hundreds in 26/11, were killed .These included mostly Americand and westerners and Indians including many Jews.

Why Pak has not been dismembered and stripped of its terror networks, still causing mayhem, is an international disgrace. The global comity of nations should weild the axe against Pak and all those nationx supportinv its terror, like China.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Rsatchi » 11 Sep 2019 16:09

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 074740.cms
No Milk as they have eaten all the 'Badah Ghosh' :(
No petrol as Arap 4fathers are not supplying free juice for the motor ghadi :)
What to do :?:
Maybe the 'Fat Controller' aka science minister should announce new miniaturized motors running of gas which can be harvested after lot of 'pindi channa' :idea: :rotfl:
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Postby Philip » 11 Sep 2019 16:19

Why we waste time and money countering Pak beats me.A sheer waste of time and resources.We should simply suspend ALL diplomatic relations with Pak until it stops terror attacks across our borders.The only language we must henceforth use must be that of the gun. Pak must be treated like a radio- active wasteland like Chernobyl or Fukushima.

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Postby Ashokk » 11 Sep 2019 23:42

Pakistan army using codes via FM transmission to contact terrorists in J&K: Sources
NEW DELHI: Indian intelligence agencies recently cracked some code words being used by the Pakistan army and various terror groups based there to communicate with terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir in order to create violence in the region, sources said.
It has been learnt that the code words were being sent through FM transmission stations installed along the Line of Control (LoC) in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) and the signs used for communication were Jaish-e-Mohammad (66/88), Lashkar-e-Taiba (A3) and Al Badr (D9).
The communications were being made through the "Qaumi Taranah", the national anthem of Pakistan, for almost a week after the abrogation of Article 370 on August 5. Landline, mobile phone and internet networks were snapped in the region following the Centre's decision.
The "Qaumi Taranah" versions were being used very actively and was run by both the Pakistan army and terrorist organisations through the FM transmission stations to send messages to there handlers and cadres in Jammu and Kashmir.
The very high frequency (VHF) radio stations were sending signals near the LoC with India by playing the "Qaumi Taranah" and these signals were also being used by the LeT, JeM and Al Badr to communicate with their local cadres in Jammu and Kashmir, the intelligence inputs said.

Sources said that VHF messages were being received by the terrorists near the LoC and they were circulating those to create violence and even mislead people in the nearby villages.
The Pakistan army was also shifting the existing FM transmission stations in PoK closer to the LoC. The 10 Corps Commander of the Pakistan army entrusted the Signal Corps with this work, said sources, adding that the move by Pakistan was aimed at pushing terrorists into India.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Bart S » 12 Sep 2019 04:24

Can't we jam them? This used to be SOP throughout the cold war.

BTW, BBC also mentioned that they are increasing AM transmissions in the region, in the context of the restrictions in Kashmir. They are up to no good as usual and we should block them too.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby schinnas » 12 Sep 2019 06:04

BBC radio should be silently blocked. Or a high powered noise should be transmitted in the same frequency they use.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby sanjaykumar » 12 Sep 2019 06:20

Okay which one of you wrote this comment:

Mood swings is normal during pregnancy.
Don't worry, very soon Pakistan going to deliver another baby (Country ) Balochistan after 40 years.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlw6asXJKMU

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby g.sarkar » 12 Sep 2019 10:22

https://www.indiatvnews.com/sports/cric ... _syn_feeds
Sri Lanka's tour to Pakistan uncertain after terror threat
The Sri Lanka Cricket has received a warning over a "possible terrorist threat" in Pakistan, and the board is now reassessing the security situation in the country.
IANS Colombo, September 12, 2019
Hours after naming second-string squads for their proposed tour of Pakistan, Sri Lanka Cricket said in a statement that they need to "reassess" their plan after receiving a warning from the Prime Minister's Office about a possible terror threat to the team.
"Sri Lanka Cricket today sought the assistance of the Sri Lankan government to conduct a 'reassessment' of the security situation in Pakistan ahead of the national team's planned tour to Pakistan. The decision was taken following a warning the SLC received from the Prime Minister's Office, sent via the Ministry of Telecommunication, Foreign Employment and Sports.
"The warning highlights that the PMO has received reliable information of a possible terrorist threat to the Sri Lankan team. Hence, SLC has been advised to take extreme care, and 'reassess' the situation, before embarking on the said tour," a statement on SLC's official website said.
The Pakistan Cricket Board, however, has said it has not received any information about a terrorist threat.
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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Gautam_2 » 12 Sep 2019 10:31

I'm not sure if people are noticing or if this is still flying under the radar, but a new axis seems to be forming between China-Iran-Bakistan

If this materialises then there are a lot of repercussions for the region, one which Bakis will aim to take full advantage of. It will for sure pit them against the Saudi camp too, but after seeing the non existent support for kashmir from Saudis, I think they may be willing to sacrifice the relationship.

China has promised a $200B investment in Iran oil industry and almost immediately, Iran has raised questions on India's support for american sanctions on them. They are also talking about taking away chabhar.

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Gautam_2 wrote:I'm not sure if people are noticing or if this is still flying under the radar, but a new axis seems to be forming between China-Iran-Bakistan

If this materialises then there are a lot of repercussions for the region, one which Bakis will aim to take full advantage of. It will for sure pit them against the Saudi camp too, but after seeing the non existent support for kashmir from Saudis, I think they may be willing to sacrifice the relationship.

China has promised a $200B investment in Iran oil industry and almost immediately, Iran has raised questions on India's support for american sanctions on them. They are also talking about taking away chabhar.

A couple of days back another "new axis" was discussed i.e. the Turkey/Baxistan/Malaysia axis. It is good that someone is keeping an eye out for such grave developments in out neighborhood.

However for the bakis, the challenge(s) to disassociate from the Saudis remain as painful as was understood when discussing the Turkey axis. Nobody touting the Turkey/Baxistan/Malaysia could explain how the bakis where going to meet that challenge. Baring that one can safely assume that the master-slave relationship between the Saudis and the bakis will continue for the foreseeable future. No worries on that count.

IF the bakis cannot break from its relationship with the Saudis then for all strategic purposes the China-Iran-Bakistan axis is dead in arrival.

A promise is nice but there is many a slip between the cup and the lip. The Chinese know it and so do the Iranians. Anyway, without Bakistan there is no axis, the crux of your post.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Gautam_2 » 12 Sep 2019 12:54

pankajs wrote:A couple of days back another "new axis" was discussed i.e. the Turkey/Baxistan/Malaysia axis. It is good that someone is keeping an eye out for such grave developments in out neighborhood.

However for the bakis, the challenge(s) to disassociate from the Saudis remain as painful as was understood when discussing the Turkey axis. Nobody touting the Turkey/Baxistan/Malaysia could explain how the bakis where going to meet that challenge. Baring that one can safely assume that the master-slave relationship between the Saudis and the bakis will continue for the foreseeable future. No worries on that count.

IF the bakis cannot break from its relationship with the Saudis then for all strategic purposes the China-Iran-Bakistan axis is dead in arrival.

A promise is nice but there is many a slip between the cup and the lip. The Chinese know it and so do the Iranians. Anyway, without Bakistan there is no axis, the crux of your post.


I entirely agree with your analysis. However, I feel, the crux is actually china which has plenty of leverage on Bakis already and are looking to build the same on the Iranians quickly. With all the talk of Iran moving towards nukes etc and the investments from china into their industry and also possible BRI inclusion of Iran, it certainly feels like china will try to consolidate its position in the region.

The whole thing will fall apart if India can build a case for reclaiming GB. I am sure MAD are already looking to foil these plans before they reach a point of no return.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

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Gautam_2 wrote:
pankajs wrote:A couple of days back another "new axis" was discussed i.e. the Turkey/Baxistan/Malaysia axis. It is good that someone is keeping an eye out for such grave developments in out neighborhood.

However for the bakis, the challenge(s) to disassociate from the Saudis remain as painful as was understood when discussing the Turkey axis. Nobody touting the Turkey/Baxistan/Malaysia could explain how the bakis where going to meet that challenge. Baring that one can safely assume that the master-slave relationship between the Saudis and the bakis will continue for the foreseeable future. No worries on that count.

IF the bakis cannot break from its relationship with the Saudis then for all strategic purposes the China-Iran-Bakistan axis is dead in arrival.

A promise is nice but there is many a slip between the cup and the lip. The Chinese know it and so do the Iranians. Anyway, without Bakistan there is no axis, the crux of your post.


I entirely agree with your analysis. However, I feel, the crux is actually china which has plenty of leverage on Bakis already and are looking to build the same on the Iranians quickly. With all the talk of Iran moving towards nukes etc and the investments from china into their industry and also possible BRI inclusion of Iran, it certainly feels like china will try to consolidate its position in the region.

The whole thing will fall apart if India can build a case for reclaiming GB. I am sure MAD are already looking to foil these plans before they reach a point of no return.

Again, the issue remains the dependency of bakis on Saudis as was discussed wrt "Turkey/Baxistan/Malaysia" axis.

Saudis remain the key to bakistan till someone can take over that role. Iran obviously cannot replace Saudi for bakistan BUT can China substitute Saudi? Not really if one goes by the Chinese/Baxistan dance till date. Chinese leverage will only take them so far unless they step in to completely replace the Saudis.

The so called "China-Iran-Bakistan" is still dead on arrival because Saudi/Iran rivalry. China/Iran/Baxistan can do a lot together but no axis. For that either Iran or China has to take over the role of the Saudis (GCC) for baxistan.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

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pankajs wrote:Again, the issue remains the dependency of bakis on Saudis as was discussed wrt "Turkey/Baxistan/Malaysia" axis.

Saudis remain the key to bakistan till someone can take over that role. Iran obviously cannot replace Saudi for bakistan BUT can China substitute Saudi? Not really if one goes by the Chinese/Baxistan dance till date. Chinese leverage will only take them so far unless they step in to completely replace the Saudis.

The so called "China-Iran-Bakistan" is still dead on arrival because Saudi/Iran rivalry. China/Iran/Baxistan can do a lot together but no axis. For that either Iran or China has to take over the role of the Saudis (GCC) for baxistan.


Iran sees Kashmir as key to its ambition of leading Muslim world.

Such commentary is gaining ground quickly which is why I wanted to raise this point. an Iran-Cheen-Baki nexus can wreak havoc in the region and I will continue to track the developments and post them here.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby nandakumar » 12 Sep 2019 13:46

Gautam_2 wrote:
pankajs wrote:Again, the issue remains the dependency of bakis on Saudis as was discussed wrt "Turkey/Baxistan/Malaysia" axis.

Saudis remain the key to bakistan till someone can take over that role. Iran obviously cannot replace Saudi for bakistan BUT can China substitute Saudi? Not really if one goes by the Chinese/Baxistan dance till date. Chinese leverage will only take them so far unless they step in to completely replace the Saudis.

The so called "China-Iran-Bakistan" is still dead on arrival because Saudi/Iran rivalry. China/Iran/Baxistan can do a lot together but no axis. For that either Iran or China has to take over the role of the Saudis (GCC) for baxistan.


Iran sees Kashmir as key to its ambition of leading Muslim world.

Such commentary is gaining ground quickly which is why I wanted to raise this point. an Iran-Cheen-Baki nexus can wreak havoc in the region and I will continue to track the developments and post them here.

Saudi Arabia can still throw a billion or two Pakistan's way. But Iran is piss poor third world country when it comes to doling ouf foreign exchange. The article also makes the claim that China is cocking a snook at the US sanctions. The fact is China is still hesitant to break the sanctions by getting the national oil companies to directly import crude.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby vishvak » 12 Sep 2019 13:54

Lots of similar such discussions going on in many threads.. so May be a common point of view. May be we need a special thread, or discuss in a specific thread. Some points that are common across.

The whites have won battle of civilization during last 500 years (1400AD onwards) simply by genociding and prevailing over multiple continents (NA/SA/AUS/NZ/EU) firmly in gora genes domain after colonization. The other wannabes (China) and leftouts (Arab wannabes) gonna find themselves at wrong end of history (after UN formation); that's why jostling for elbow room.

India should declare moratorium to defend only indic point of view at UN; and stay away from other exclusive blocks (mob on ground). The paki elbow wrestling for 'safe' US withdrawal out of Afghanistan is something we should view from sidelines as jostling by interested parties signalling each other at cost of non-believers - and we must keep reminding 'loudly' everyone about how arap terrorist Osama bin leden arap terrorist shot dead in la la pakilands - and EVERY such event - from sidelines.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

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Gautam_2 wrote:
pankajs wrote:Again, the issue remains the dependency of bakis on Saudis as was discussed wrt "Turkey/Baxistan/Malaysia" axis.

Saudis remain the key to bakistan till someone can take over that role. Iran obviously cannot replace Saudi for bakistan BUT can China substitute Saudi? Not really if one goes by the Chinese/Baxistan dance till date. Chinese leverage will only take them so far unless they step in to completely replace the Saudis.

The so called "China-Iran-Bakistan" is still dead on arrival because Saudi/Iran rivalry. China/Iran/Baxistan can do a lot together but no axis. For that either Iran or China has to take over the role of the Saudis (GCC) for baxistan.


Iran sees Kashmir as key to its ambition of leading Muslim world.

Such commentary is gaining ground quickly which is why I wanted to raise this point. an Iran-Cheen-Baki nexus can wreak havoc in the region and I will continue to track the developments and post them here.

1. Commentary are just that commentary and nothing more.
2. First it was axis and now nexus. Fine. My preferred word is "co-operation" and every country co-operates with almost every other country with few exceptions. It might surprise you that India/Baxitan as well as India/China have cooperated on specific issues in the past and will continue to do so in the future. That should not come as a surprise if one thinks carefully.
3. US-Bakistan-China "nexus" can wreak havoc in the region. I agree.
4. Anything that has a likelihood to impact India's elbow room needs to be tracked.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby pankajs » 12 Sep 2019 14:05

nandakumar wrote:
Gautam_2 wrote:
Iran sees Kashmir as key to its ambition of leading Muslim world.

Such commentary is gaining ground quickly which is why I wanted to raise this point. an Iran-Cheen-Baki nexus can wreak havoc in the region and I will continue to track the developments and post them here.

Saudi Arabia can still throw a billion or two Pakistan's way. But Iran is piss poor third world country when it comes to doling ouf foreign exchange. The article also makes the claim that China is cocking a snook at the US sanctions. The fact is China is still hesitant to break the sanctions by getting the national oil companies to directly import crude.

It is not about a billion or two ... it is much more. How about Iran or China take in all baxistani workers employed all over the GCC? Will they do that? And this is only one layer in a multi-layer relationship.

Talk(opinion/commentary/promise/MoU) is cheap. GCC == Saudi.

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Postby vishvak » 12 Sep 2019 14:13

Anything that has a likelihood to impact India's elbow room needs to be tracked.

Similar to how 'transport aircraft only' US defence deals have morphed into alphabet-treaties loving purchases, slowly getting into how some missile defence systems are cheaper/range-exact over S-400 defence deal in some ways or another.

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Postby Sanju » 12 Sep 2019 19:07

Cross post from J&K UT thread

Mission POK

Troops ready, govt to decide on PoK: Army chief
General Bipin Rawat said that the next agenda of India is to retrieve PoK from the clutches of Pakistan and the decision in this regard has to be taken by the government.


Indian Army chief General Bipin Rawat on Thursday said that the Army troops are ready to retrieve Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) and make it a part of India. He also said that while the Army troops are ready to take action on a cue, it is the government which takes decisions in such matters.

Speaking to news agency ANI, General Bipin Rawat said that the next agenda of India is to retrieve PoK from the clutches of Pakistan and the decision in this regard has to be taken by the government.

"The next agenda is retrieving PoK and making it a part of India. The government takes actions in such matters. The institutions of the country will work as per the orders of the government. The Army is always ready," he said.

Earlier, Union Minister Jitendra Singh had said that next agenda of the government is to "retrieve" parts of Jammu and Kashmir (PoK) and make it a territory of India.

"Now, the next agenda is retrieving PoK and making it a part of India. It's not only me or my party's commitment, but it's a part of a resolution unanimously passed by Parliament in 1994 during Congress government headed by PV Narasimha Rao," Jitendra Singh told reporters in Jammu.


Highlighting the success of 100 days of the Narendra Modi government, the minister said that the Central government took several historic decisions but abrogation of Article 370 was the biggest achievement of them.

Law Minister Ravi Shankar Prasad, too, had said that if talks were held with Pakistan in a terror-free atmosphere, it will be on Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK). Lambasting Pakistan for gross human rights violations in PoK, the Minister asserted that "if any talks in the terror-free atmosphere with Pakistan will be held that will be on PoK."

India had on August 5 scrapped the provisions of Article 370 that gave a special status to Jammu and Kashmir.

Addressing the media, Jitendra Singh said that the decision would help in the industrial growth, employment generation and bettering of the healthcare system in the two newly created territories.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Bart S » 12 Sep 2019 20:25

Gautam_2 wrote:I'm not sure if people are noticing or if this is still flying under the radar, but a new axis seems to be forming between China-Iran-Bakistan

If this materialises then there are a lot of repercussions for the region, one which Bakis will aim to take full advantage of. It will for sure pit them against the Saudi camp too, but after seeing the non existent support for kashmir from Saudis, I think they may be willing to sacrifice the relationship.

China has promised a $200B investment in Iran oil industry and almost immediately, Iran has raised questions on India's support for american sanctions on them. They are also talking about taking away chabhar.


The $200B investment claims are dubious. Even if it materializes, it will simply mean a move away from CPEC as Iran is better equipped in every possible way than Pakistan for a project like that. Pakistan will just be 'begaane shaadi mein abdulla deewana' in that grouping.

Also, decades of investment in Wahabism and anti-Shia terrorism and fanaticism has ensured that any alliance with Iran will cause insurmountable internal fissures in Pakistan.

With this grouping, the only thing that will happen is that Iran might benefit, China and Pakistan will get screwed overall though none as badly as the Pakis.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby yensoy » 12 Sep 2019 21:17

If Iran kicks us out of Chabahar, then we tell the US that we can't do squat in Afghanistan thanks to them. And that Afghanistan will now be at the total mercy of the Pakis and Chinese. Coalition of the willing can go screw themselves, for all we care.

Chabahar is there precisely because the Afghans want it, the Iranians want and in some ways the Americans want it though they may not be smart enough to realize it.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby ramana » 12 Sep 2019 22:02

The description Terroristan has gone mainstream.

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Postby ramana » 12 Sep 2019 22:04

yensoy wrote:If Iran kicks us out of Chabahar, then we tell the US that we can't do squat in Afghanistan thanks to them. And that Afghanistan will now be at the total mercy of the Pakis and Chinese. Coalition of the willing can go screw themselves, for all we care.

Chabahar is there precisely because the Afghans want it, the Iranians want and in some ways the Americans want it though they may not be smart enough to realize it.


What nonsense is this?


In my bad mood days would have banned you for such thoughts!

In future make you arguments with out unnecessary premises.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby vimal » 12 Sep 2019 22:21

https://www.dawn.com/news/1504768/sans-flagpole

THE recent visit of the foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia and its acolyte the United Arab Emirates could not have been without purpose. Neither of them wastes aviation fuel without reason.

Did the visit of the Arab foreign ministers have a darker, deeper purpose? Was the visit to persuade our government to swallow someone else’s pride, to recognise our theocratic sibling — the state of Israel, younger to us by a year?

Official circles have denied that there was any discussion on Israel. Understandably, until we do recognise Israel, that has to be the official line. Unofficially, though, there has always been contact between Pakistan and Israel. In 1947, the Quaid-i-Azam received a secret message from David Ben Gurion (later the first prime minister of Israel), seeking Pakistan’s support for the recognition of Israel after its independence.


The author jumps from one conspiracy theory to another and comes up with the Israeli angle when a simple Kashmir angle is much more plausible. Basically, Arab states telling pukes to shut up and accept the reality.

Oh snackbar please let Dimran recongize dushman-e-momin as a state.
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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby yensoy » 12 Sep 2019 22:26

ramana wrote:
yensoy wrote:If Iran kicks us out of Chabahar, then we tell the US that we can't do squat in Afghanistan thanks to them. And that Afghanistan will now be at the total mercy of the Pakis and Chinese. Coalition of the willing can go screw themselves, for all we care.

Chabahar is there precisely because the Afghans want it, the Iranians want and in some ways the Americans want it though they may not be smart enough to realize it.


What nonsense is this?
In my bad mood days would have banned you for such thoughts!
In future make you arguments with out unnecessary premises.


Huh sir, sorry I don't understand why you are so upset? There was some discussion on Iran-Paki-Cheen axis, and I am saying that such an axis will never happen to our detriment.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Anujan » 12 Sep 2019 22:30

There are indications to believe that Saudia and UAE might recognize Israel. At least as part of Son-in-law's peace process idea.

If that happens, Al Bakistan will have its feet cut out from under them. They'll be the only ones (well apart from Iran and other countries) which do not recognize israel. That is why they are laying the ground by floating ideas of recognizing Israel.

This will be an interesting thing to see. Their awam thinks of themselves as more arab than arabs, and have been brought up with a steady diet of YYY conspiracies. What will happen if Dimran establishes diplomatic relations?

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby vimal » 12 Sep 2019 23:44

^^ Ohhh, i can't wait for that. All the brainwashing for over 7 decades mixed with constant calls of Gazwa-e-Hind and now a full u-turn. Time to head for a snackbar.

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Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Peregrine » 13 Sep 2019 00:01

X Posted on the Analyzing Thread

Backlash against Xi's ‘Belt and Road’could cost China $800 billion: Report – Bloomberg

HIGHLIGHTS

- The report outlined five scenarios for future Belt and Road Initiative investment

- The most optimistic is "global cooperation model" that sees China spending over $1.3 trillion globally between 2010 & 2030

- The most pessimistic is “uni-polar” and weighs the impact of a recession and more aggressive competition, predicting invest might only reach around $ 560 billion


BEIJING: A new report suggested the backlash to China's political and trade policies could shave as much as $800 billion of investment in President Xi Jinping's signature Belt and Road Initiative, amid mounting concerns about the geopolitical price of doing business with Beijing.

The report published on Wednesday from consultancy Silk Road Associates and law firm Baker McKenzie outlined five scenarios for future BRI investment. The most optimistic is a "global cooperation model" that sees China spending more than $1.3 trillion globally between 2020 and 2030. The most pessimistic is "uni-polar" and weighs the impact of a recession, growing nationalism and more aggressive competition, predicting investment might only reach around $560 billion.

The report's release came as Hong Kong kicked off a Belt and Road investment summit on Wednesday attended by several Chinese officials, one of whom urged the city's residents to stop protesting and seize the opportunities offered through China's regional infrastructure spending plans. The Asian financial hub has seen months of unrest that have taken a toll on its economy, including tourism and retail.

With more than 130 countries reported to have signed up to the initiative, estimates for China's current BRI investments vary wildly – from hundreds of billions of dollars to as much as $8 trillion.

The World Bank has suggested China's current spending totals around $575 billion, but predicting future investments by Xi's notoriously opaque government over a decade is difficult. Political opposition to projects in Sri Lanka and Malaysia, among other countries, has led to some projects being revised, curtailed or cancelled, making investments even more difficult to track.

The Asian Development Bank has previously estimated developing countries in Asia need around $26 trillion worth of infrastructure investments between 2016 and 2030.

These are the five scenarios outlined in the report:

Value: $910 billion. Investments stay on the current trajectory and track closely with the current trend of more projects, but smaller average values.

Value: $1.32 trillion. China learns its lessons, reduces political opposition to big infrastructure projects, and negotiates more multilateral funding sources.

Value: $1.2 trillion. A focus on sustainability helps secure new funding sources and helps Chinese firms win major clean energy and water projects

Value: $1.06 trillion. US-China trade tensions persist, leading to a greater exodus from China. Relocated manufacturing centers in Southeast Asia spur Chinese infrastructure investments there.

Value: $560 billion. Political opposition and trade protectionism limit the size and geographic spread of China's infrastructure investments.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby krisna » 13 Sep 2019 00:12


ongoing Hindu genocide since 1947. Assuming the same %age since 1947 of Hindus in normal situation should have about 30 million Hindus in todays terroristan. But today it is <5million . many have been disappeared converted what not.

The NGO head from Rajasthan talks about various intiatives of the present Indian govt helping the refugees within constraints of secular India policies.

At the end few minutes a new acronym RULLES- random unceasing low level scattered violence . Hence flies under radar. this occurs in everyplace of terroistan aginst kafirs

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Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Peregrine » 13 Sep 2019 01:16

SHASHI THAROOR FINALLY FLIPS! :cry:

https://twitter.com/shashitharoor/statu ... 16?lang=en

1/2 Today I introduced a Bill to amend the Constitution of India to allow dual citizenship. We have the largest diaspora in the World, many of whom who have migrated abroad for better opportunities. Taking a foreign passport for convenience does not make them any less Indian.

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Shashi Tharoor - Verified account - @ShashiTharoor Jul 12
2/2 The Citizenship Act, 1955 does not allow dual citizenship, but before we can amend the Act, we need to amend Article 9 of the Constitution which places a bar against this concept. Once this Bill is passed by Parliament, we can amend the Act & make dual citizenship a reality.


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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby ramana » 13 Sep 2019 01:18

No.
He is doing this to cover for the many Congress warts who have dual citizenship which is illegal right now.
Start from Pappu.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby ramana » 13 Sep 2019 01:20

Anujan wrote:There are indications to believe that Saudia and UAE might recognize Israel. At least as part of Son-in-law's peace process idea.

If that happens, Al Bakistan will have its feet cut out from under them. They'll be the only ones (well apart from Iran and other countries) which do not recognize israel. That is why they are laying the ground by floating ideas of recognizing Israel.

This will be an interesting thing to see. Their awam thinks of themselves as more arab than arabs, and have been brought up with a steady diet of YYY conspiracies. What will happen if Dimran establishes diplomatic relations?



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